00:06Perchè me l'hai lasciato fare?
00:30La storia è stata un po' di spettacolo, però è stato un po' di spettacolo, direttamente.
00:35Questa è stata un progetto di scrittura e direttore.
00:41Quindi voglio sapere cosa fa la storia di te?
00:47E qual è il tuo focus?
00:50Questa è una storia molto diversa della storia di X-Men The Last Stand.
00:54I was the writer of X-Men The Last Stand and my big regret about that film
01:00is that we didn't really tell the Dark Phoenix story.
01:02It became the background story.
01:03We didn't deal with the complexity of psychology and emotion
01:06and everything that's true to the original comic.
01:08I grew up reading X-Men comics, all kinds of comics, Batman, Spider-Man.
01:12My favorite storyline in all of comics, like you say, for so many people,
01:17was the Dark Phoenix saga.
01:18And I always, you know, it was an inspiration for me in my writing
01:23even before there were X-Men movies.
01:26So, you know, to be able to tell it properly,
01:30to be able to actually tap into the essence
01:32of what Chris Claremont created in the Dark Phoenix comic
01:36was such an extraordinary opportunity for me
01:39and was so inspiring for me as a writer.
01:42And what I was trying to do with this film
01:44was really just capture the emotion, the complexity,
01:50the raw intensity of what this character of Jean Grey was going through
01:54and then what the people around her who loved her were going through, you know?
01:58Because when someone in your family loses control,
02:01when a friend of yours loses control, it's traumatic.
02:04And I wanted to play the real trauma of that
02:07and see this family that people who've watched one movie,
02:10have watched all of the X-Men movies,
02:11this family they've become a part of, this family that they've loved.
02:14I wanted to challenge that family, I wanted to rip that family apart
02:17and see what happens when they have to deal with trauma
02:20and they have to face each other as enemies
02:21to see if they can actually come back together in a different form,
02:26perhaps stronger than they've ever been.
02:27And so I really approached this movie as if, you know, it was a straight drama.
02:32You know, obviously there's supernatural, there's spectacle, there's the fantastical,
02:36there's extraterrestrials in this movie, things we've never seen in an X-Men film.
02:40But at the core of it, it was really about the emotional journey and struggle
02:45of this young woman who is fighting this power inside of her
02:51that is taking her over and yet is also feeling good at the same time.
02:55And that is a very complicated, complex, nuanced thing
02:59that perhaps only Sophie Turner could fully pull off.
03:16You, this is your first X-Men movie as a director, of course.
03:20You have been on the producing and writing team for a long time.
03:25Yeah.
03:25As a director, though, what were the elements that surprised you
03:29or even blindsided you in any?
03:32Yeah, sure. I mean, I have been in this universe for a long time
03:35and I've obviously produced and written other kinds of movies too.
03:38So I've learned over the years, I mean, one of the things that for me
03:41I always wanted to direct, one of the great luxuries I've had
03:44is I've sort of been in film school where I've got to watch, you know,
03:48Ridley Scott I made a movie with, two movies with Kenneth Branagh,
03:51Jim Mangold on Logan, Bryan Singer on these movies, Matthew Vaughn.
03:54He's incredible filmmakers.
03:56So I felt prepared from a technical standpoint to direct a movie.
04:00What was surprising to me, I guess, were two things,
04:03one kind of boring and maybe one less boring.
04:06The one that was less boring was, you know,
04:08the scenes that are emotional and intense.
04:12As a director, I felt I needed to be as emotional and intense as the actors.
04:16I needed to be in it with them, not outside of it, judging them.
04:20I needed them to feel as though I was really empathizing with and experiencing,
04:26in some ways, what they were going through in order to sort of sustain the reality of it.
04:31I didn't want in between each take to go up to them sort of objectively and say,
04:35yeah, we need a little more emotion from you or a little bit more of this or that.
04:39I wanted them to feel that I was feeling also what they were going through.
04:43And that was really exhausting, I will say.
04:46But it was also really exhilarating because I would see these actors who are extraordinary actors
04:51like Michael Fassbender and McAvoy and Jennifer Lawrence and Jessica Chastain and Sophie Turner.
04:57I would see them really finding moments of not just emotion but nuance and subtlety
05:04that you're not probably used to in a superhero movie but even in an X-Men movie.
05:09I wanted this to feel more raw and real than we have in the past.
05:14The part that surprised me also that's boring is it takes more stamina.
05:19When you're a writer-producer, you can between takes, between shots, you can check your phone,
05:24you can do an email, you can make a phone call, you can go meditate, you can work out,
05:28whatever you want to do, there's time in the day to take breaks.
05:31When you're a director, the second you call cut and you're moving the camera for the next shot,
05:35there's 10 people waiting in line to ask you questions.
05:37So you are working from the second you show up at 7 in the morning until you wrap at 7
05:41or 8 or 9 o'clock at night.
05:42It is a non-stop job.
05:43It's relentless.
05:45It's relentless.
05:46And on a movie like this where you're shooting for 80 days or so,
05:49photography, it takes its toll on you and it's just a different kind of experience.
05:54It's a more rewarding experience but it also is, when you do it right I think,
05:59it sort of rips your guts out for quite a few months.
06:04A little question about authority.
06:06Authority has always been a theme throughout the series.
06:08Say what was?
06:09Authority.
06:10Authority, yeah.
06:12Between Magneto and Xavier.
06:14In Dark Phoenix, Chuck Xavier's authority is questioned by different characters.
06:20Totally.
06:20So I'm curious if this is a theme that's dear to you as well.
06:25Are you a big challenger of authority?
06:27I would say I'm a challenger of authority.
06:30I think we're living in a time when authority should be challenged.
06:34And I wanted this movie to challenge all kinds of authority.
06:37Not just Charles' but also Jessica Chastain's character's authority.
06:42I wanted in some ways to challenge Magneto's authority.
06:46I wanted everybody, I wanted to explore this idea that power can be used for good and power can be
06:53abused.
06:54And when it's abused it needs to be stopped and challenged.
06:57And that's really at the core of this movie, right?
06:58Because Jean is struggling with this power inside of her.
07:01Sometimes it's destructive and then ultimately it can be constructive.
07:06And specifically with Charles, he's never been questioned that he is sitting there while everybody else is risking their lives
07:13for him.
07:13He's named a superhero team essentially after himself.
07:17He's been this sort of patriarch who thinks he knows better than everybody else.
07:20He's manipulated people over the years when he thinks it's best for them but he doesn't really give them a
07:25choice in the matter.
07:28And I think we're living in a time specifically, not to get too political about it, but where the patriarchy,
07:33where men who have controlled the world for a long time need to be questioned.
07:37You know, there's a line in the movie where Jessica Chastain, there's a line in the movie where Jennifer says,
07:40you know, maybe you should consider calling it the ex-women.
07:43And there's another line where Jessica Chastain says, you know, the words of good and evil are, you know, were
07:49created a long time ago by, you know, men with very little minds.
07:52And it's true that we are living in a time of transition. We're living in a time when the world
07:57and the rules are changing. And I wanted this movie to resemble that.
08:01It's too late.
08:14Arrived.
08:22Arrived.
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