00:00Non conosco nessuno così abile nel dipanare la matassa della politica e renderla comprensibile.
00:06Gary Hart sta portando idee audaci e creative nella politica americana.
00:11È un dono e vuole condividerlo con la gente.
00:14Hart propone riforme innovative su istruzione e politica estera.
00:19Voglio che pensiate all'opportunità che abbiamo ora
00:21con le idee e la visione per portare l'America nel ventunesimo secolo
00:26e al costo per il nostro paese.
00:28Jason, you started your career with a political movie, Thank You for Smoking.
00:33Then for more than 10 years you told personal stories, very private stories
00:40and now you came back to politics.
00:42Why now and why did you feel the need to do this movie?
00:46Oh, because all we talk about now is politics.
00:48We're living in the most political time I've ever lived through
00:51and I feel like any filmmaker I'm responding to what's on my mind
00:57and what's on my mind is what's on everybody's mind.
00:59We look at politics and we wonder how the hell did we get here?
01:04Maybe it's Bob Woodward's fault, but many sequences of your movie
01:10remind me of All the President's Men.
01:13I don't know if it was a model for you.
01:15Did you have any other model in mind?
01:18Sure.
01:19Certainly you cannot make an American political movie
01:22without looking at All the President's Men.
01:23It's the greatest American political movie ever made.
01:26It's brilliantly done, brilliantly directed, brilliantly written and acted
01:30and it's a thriller.
01:32And the frontrunner is a thriller.
01:33A thriller in which a man goes from being the next president of the United States
01:36and less than a week later he leaves politics forever.
01:39You know, that's a fascinating question.
01:43However, it was Michael Ritchie's The Candidate that really became our North Star.
01:48That was a film about overlapping visual, overlapping dialogue,
01:53you know, a messy reality that we wanted to replicate,
01:56one that forces the audience to make a decision about who is important
02:00and who do you want to follow.
02:02And why for American voters it's important to know the private life
02:09of a good candidate like Gary Hart?
02:13Right.
02:14Well, this is my question and I don't think we know the answer to it.
02:17It's certainly a very difficult conversation to happen in 2018
02:20because so many of our candidates are completely indecent as human beings.
02:25So the question I have is where are the decent people?
02:29Where have they gone?
02:30Why have they been pushed aside?
02:33And if you look back to the story, you begin to get some of the answer.
02:36You have a person who had big ideas, was very electable, was brilliant
02:42and was unwilling to participate in a process that was at the beginning
02:47of becoming a reality show.
02:49And at the end of it, of course, we get a reality star president.
02:52For the public, Hugh Jackman is a Wolverine, he's an herthrob,
02:57he's a musical singer and now has become a politician.
03:04But he has a very different role from his past.
03:06How did you work together?
03:08And did you met Gary Hart during the preparation of the movie?
03:12I did meet Gary Hart, as did Hugh.
03:14And I think that both of us wanted to do right by him
03:17as we wanted to do right by everyone in the story.
03:20You know, Hugh is one of our great movie stars.
03:22Whether he is singing or clawing or dancing,
03:27his work ethic kind of proves true in everything he does.
03:31In this movie, he does something he's never done before, though.
03:33He plays an enigma.
03:34He plays someone that we desperately want to understand.
03:37And Hugh does that very tricky thing as an actor.
03:40He brings us right to the crack in the door,
03:42but he doesn't let us in.
03:44I knew that his inner decency, though,
03:48would shine through Gary Hart even in his most difficult moments.
03:52Politics has its problems,
03:54but the press, as we can see in the movie, is terrible.
03:59We see journalists that follow in the car,
04:03that spy into the houses.
04:07Which is, for you, the separation between gossip and real news?
04:17You know, the movie follows many different journalists.
04:20I think there's maybe eight different journalist characters,
04:25four at the Herald, four at the Post.
04:27They are young, they are old, they are male, they are female.
04:30They each have different points of view,
04:31and they each are struggling with what is the right thing to do.
04:34Whether they are a journalist at the Miami Herald
04:37that is attempting to understand who Gary Hart is as a human being,
04:44or whether they're A.J. Parker at the Washington Post
04:47who is struggling with whether or not he can ask questions about adultery,
04:52or whether it's Anne DeVroy at the Washington Post
04:56who is bringing questions up about his role as a man with power
05:00and how does that come to his responsibility.
05:03Or Ben Bradley at the Washington Post
05:05who is discussing this new idea that would become very relevant
05:08that if other newspapers and TV shows are covering a story,
05:13how does the Washington Post not cover the story?
05:16And if that's the case,
05:17at what point does an editor actually have control anymore?
05:20Because in the modern era,
05:22we click on the stories that we want,
05:24and then it is the job of the newspapers
05:25to give us more stories like that.
05:27So this story, the story of Gary Hart,
05:31is looking at a very critical moment in journalism
05:33in which they are facing how to balance
05:35the personal and the political,
05:38and it's something that we still haven't figured out to this day.
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