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00:03Connor. Yes. We hear you love languages and accents. Other than Russian, what's your favorite?
00:10Ooh, I'm kind of always switching between languages. Right now, I really want to learn
00:16Spanish. I'm from West Texas, so I've always heard Spanish. And living in LA, there's Spanish
00:21everywhere. So it doesn't feel very, like, exotic to me because I've heard it my whole life, but
00:27I think it's, I think it's sexy. Spanish is muy sexy. Yes, Colombian Spanish, I think, is the
00:36sexiest language there is. I like the traditional Spain-Spanish. Spain-Spanish. Vamos a la playa
00:41de Barcelona. Barcelona. Con Javier Baedén. Yeah. Ana de Armas. Ana de Armas. She's Cuban,
00:50right? She's Cuban. Okay. Pretty girl. Okay. This year marks 20 years since Brokeback Mountain.
00:56Are there any MM romance movies, shows, or books that have really stuck with you either
01:01growing up or recently? Well, I love Brokeback Mountain. It was one of the first things that
01:05you told me. Yeah. I love, Keith Ledger plays Ennis. I still think it's his best work. I think
01:11that was one of the first pivotal ones when you have two leading men take on, you know,
01:17gay cowboys. It's pretty bold. But then, you know, you have Call Me By Your Name, Moonlight,
01:22I think with Barry Jenkins saying, bringing the art house to the hood is what he said.
01:27That was already just a beautiful juxtaposition. And then having, you know, he said he wanted
01:33to redefine masculinity with that movie, which I thought was so cool.
01:36Yeah. Call Me By Your Name, I think, was like pretty revolutionary. Yeah. Yeah. I was in high
01:41school at that time. And I remember that being the first thing that felt like it was really a part
01:46of the cultural zeitgeist. And it also handled, like, it also handled queer stories in a really
01:53cool way where it was so under the surface and it made it so human, you know, which I think
01:59also
01:59was kind of like a moonlight scenario where we're taking these people in such a specific time and
02:05place and like letting them explore love. Right. What does SMUT mean to you?
02:14I'm going to try to make an acronym. Sexy. This is going to be in relation to
02:21Amber and Ice. Sexy. Magic. Universe.
02:31T-t-t-t-t-t-t. T-t-t-t-t.
02:39I have no idea. What did I say?
02:41sexy magic universe um titillating yeah yeah we'll do that titillating oh you very publicly
02:52shot your shot for night wing uh which was extremely fun to watch have you been a dc fan
02:59and what is it like to see fans instantly rally behind you especially the ones that say you have
03:03the face the talent and the butt i will be completely honest i when i saw like some fan
03:10art of you as night wing i was like blown away whoa like i i i mean you never know
03:17if that's
03:17going to come to fruition or not but yeah i see like someone did you in the comic book style
03:22i was
03:22like i see it right away wow yeah i would i would love to play him i love dc i
03:28love um i loved all
03:31like comic books that were true to the source material um and i think you know there are a
03:40lot of good filmmakers who like bring their own style to these you know beloved um um comics that
03:47i think it would be really great to work with them you know i'm not fully set on night wing
03:51you know
03:52i'm open to other things um did you always want to be in like did is superheroes no always something
03:59that's been like i absolutely not it's just it's when really good filmmaker it's it's filmmaker driven
04:06so when like a guy like james gunn um or matt reeves you know comes to comics it i think
04:12that's
04:12what draws me um and and i heard james gunn is doing the the teen titans i know there's yeah
04:19but
04:19yeah james gunn he's in love with you true or false hudson is more like ilia in real life and
04:26connor
04:27is more like shane i think me and you are both like rose and i'm like svetlana i just said
04:34me and
04:34you are both but i'm just i'm just parting ways that's so svetlana for you to say um i don't
04:41know
04:42i mean maybe i do feel like ilia i don't know i think that um i i'm i'm too sensitive
04:49or outwardly
04:50sensitive or don't have a lot of shame around emotion to be ilia i could be a little cocky like
04:56ilia yeah but beyond that it's like i think shane and ilia sort of share us you know a soulfulness
05:03that's kind of buried under all these you know walls and kind of um uh masks but i think i
05:10think
05:11underneath that what we both relate with both of them is you know the the heart and and their soul
05:17after wrapping heated rivalry you two got matching tattoos that say sex sales and if true how did that
05:23happen um i did i have a reason for coming up to vancouver i just want to come see yeah
05:29come hang
05:29out am i not good enough right come on yeah i just i don't know why for a second i
05:33was like i have
05:34something to do up there i have nothing to do in vancouver i was there so yeah i just went
05:39up to see um
05:41i just came up to see you we knew we wanted to get matching tattoos i hadn't gotten a tattoo
05:45in
05:45forever um and we were just shuffling through ideas and yeah i think you came up with sex
05:52but like we were both pitching ideas and then like one person would like them the other person wouldn't
05:57and then when you said sex sales i was like oh we were sold that's the first idea you've had
06:01that's
06:01good i think it's honestly my most well done tattoo as well so that feels good the front of my
06:06shin
06:07pull in here zoom in true or false you ate a pound of beef of ground beef a day while
06:14filming heated
06:15rivalry true um connor told me what his routine was and after i saw him in person um i asked
06:23him
06:23how he got to that size i thought he was taking illicit substances he wasn't he does it super clean
06:29sorry i mentioned illicit substances um but i have nothing to hide bring it on but he was so
06:39so i was like what are you eating freak i was like i'm eating
06:45and he just couldn't speak and he just kept doing that i was like i think that means ground
06:49beef um you're like that level of capability is what i need and then connor was actually the person
06:55who put me onto fiber because if you need to eat the protein you want to get you know ilia
07:01cheeks
07:01um and chest you need so much fiber just so your stomach doesn't shut down and you go into cardiac
07:08arrest and you get carried out from your your little workout on a stretcher with some you know
07:14pumped up pecs and a shut down fucking you look good digestive system it's really unfortunate if it
07:19ends that way yeah yeah i actually um i'm gonna one-up this true or false i actually think that
07:25we ate
07:25more than a pound of beef yeah because a pound of beef only has i think 84 grams of protein
07:30and you need a solid 200 if you're going through size and shape so sometimes i can eat two pounds
07:37of ground beef a day plus like 10 eggs yeah and so many salads i was having so much salad
07:42because by
07:43the end i got like gained 10 pounds so like when i started shooting i was like and by the
07:47end i was
07:48like 10 pounds heavier and it was because of yeah you i mean you're very inspiring i'm glad that we
07:53had each other because it would have been really hard to be motivated if you know we were going
07:58back to our 12 hour days and then the gym and then like going back to a residence like alone
08:02it's
08:02really it's nice that i got to be like hi son let's go to gym and we would go from
08:08a fucking 11
08:09hour day skating lesson and connor would go let's do legs and i and i looked him he's a madman
08:15that's
08:15how he has a butt he'll finish a skating lesson that takes four hours and then go legs now and
08:21i was
08:21like what are you saying i okay i knew i had a responsibility to the people he's america's ass
08:29and i i take that very seriously romance readers are famously passionate about book adaptations did
08:37you feel any pressure being bringing a beloved story to life and how did you approach making the
08:41characters your own it's good i think to go into a project accepting that you know people might be
08:48disappointed especially with something like a book where everyone already has preconceived notions
08:52they've visioned they've envisioned these characters they've drawn these characters they've
08:56gotten tattoos of these characters like the love is already there so much that ultimately someone is
09:02going to be disappointed all you can do is is read the material as much as you possibly can yeah
09:09and
09:11um and respect it show the respect show the dedication and just hope that people you know
09:17connect with it and love it and see that enthusiasm i think we both had that level of whether you
09:22want
09:22to call it nihilism or not like people might just hate this people might hate your casting or they might
09:27hate my casting i'm not going to expect anything more and uh i'm just going to do the best i
09:32can
09:33but you have really no metric of if people are going to be warm to your your take i really
09:39think
09:39at the end of the day all you can do is be really intentional give it a hundred and fifty
09:44percent
09:45yeah just go for it you know and luckily for us this worked out really freaking well
09:55Hudson we have heard rumors about a very serious multi-step korean skincare routine can you break it down
10:00for us it's not that lengthy yeah i always made fun of you for it too because i like honestly
10:06i'm
10:06just kind of jealous because you have really good skin um but i was like yeah your skin routine
10:11and then it's actually not that long it's not that long it's okay i'm gonna tell you in the
10:16morning i use water to cleanse my face warm water and then i put on a glow toner but it's
10:24pretty dry it's
10:25not like i don't like when people have like dewy like if i see someone it looks like they just
10:28wore a face mask i'm like why are you out right now like go go wipe that off and then
10:33come talk
10:33to me because i won't right now um and then so my toner and then i'll put on um a
10:39serum
10:40and then sunscreen and then sometimes instead of a serum i put on a moisturizer and then my pm routine
10:46is an oil cleanser you know to get out these blackheads to get the the gunk out um and then
10:52i'll
10:53either use like a cerave normal ass cleanser or i'll use like a poor shrinking cleanser that's their
10:59new that's their new slogan cerave normal ass cleanser i think that is i yeah i also and then
11:08like a poor shrink or poor shrinking cleanser if that's my goal and then the same thing toner serum
11:13and then either a retinol or a salicylic acid and then i go to sleep
11:19so i think everyone in the studio agrees that was a lot well i will also say i mean it
11:25makes sense
11:25you have flawless skin so and then when i take it off it just falls apart yeah he unhooks the
11:32he
11:33unhooks the clip back here in the back keeps it all up connor yes story yes do you have a
11:40favorite
11:40spicy scene from heated rivalry and a favorite from ember and ice what makes those stand out for you
11:44my favorite spicy scene from ember and ice is actually a scene where dane um is with two
11:50former lovers cassandra and elijah yep
11:58i need you to i need you to be here with me okay um dane has an interaction with uh
12:05two of his former
12:06lovers um after having been with finn for some time and uh yeah not to spoil but he he ends
12:15up
12:15realizing that what what really works for him isn't working for him anymore and it's kind of this moment
12:21of identity loss and you know what what pleases me isn't pleasing me the same i think that's really
12:27cool because it's also it's because it's cool because it's like sexy and spicy but it also is really
12:32revealing of the character and the connection and where he's at you know um and i think it's funny
12:38i think i remember dane saying something about um he's like he's like and then the next thing i did
12:43was
12:44i just had to come up with uh an excuse and then he's like he's like my friends i have
12:48bad news
12:50i have a lot from ember and ice but one is the lake scene where we kind of go in
12:56together and you kind
12:57of coax out of me without spoiling too much i think that one's just you know a lot of times
13:02like
13:02intimacy before intimacy i think it has more of a charge in a way that one really got me um
13:10frothing at the mouth and heated rivalry favorite intimate scene there's one that was really fun to
13:16film do you remember filming the stair step scene when we're like kissing against the glass and our
13:21lips never come apart me and you were like do people do this do people i know it's always a
13:27fun
13:27balance right of like when you're filming um separate from like the audio space when you're
13:32filming it's like how much of it is fun tv and then how much of it is like is like
13:40true sex because
13:41at the end of the day you know you do have in real life people do have those those like
13:45movie moments
13:46where you're like you know you're like yeah yeah and then everyone on set was like oh yeah no we
13:50i've
13:51done that and then connor and i were like oh oh we usually fold our clothes place them down then
13:57go
13:57we're both shane naked and go sex now sex now i'm robot plug me in true or false hudson's roommates
14:07once kept a mooning tally of how many times he flashed them do you know how many times i know
14:14that
14:14you i've yeah remember this yep it's true it was one roommate um and i i mooned him 31 times
14:22what was his
14:23reaction when you mooned him was he like hudson her poor name was chelsea i i i've talked with her
14:31and chelsea has been like you can say my name and i was like so i've since talked about this
14:35since
14:36double consent uh double consent um and uh poor chelsea would just go i think her main reaction was like
14:42oh hudson oh and it made me so happy where where is chelsea now and i i developed different techniques
14:53over the years um she's chilling she's got a cat that's like hanging off her walls um but i would
15:00go and i would do like a drive-by i had all these different techniques and then she would bring
15:04like
15:04other you know um romantic interests home and then they're like what's this tally up on the board and
15:10they're like oh that's how many times hudson my roommate has mooned me and they were like would
15:15you just like kind of butt crack it or would you full so i had one where i would get
15:19pants low like
15:21i would de-pants and she would be unassuming like maybe on her phone on the couch and i would
15:26run by
15:27and jump in the air so i was like a like like a like a literal moon a literal moon
15:33but in fast motion
15:34sometimes i would just do the like oh drop something before we leave bend and i'm right
15:38there gotcha oh god yes no they they got very athletic but we need to clarify if you were gonna
15:47moon someone yeah a close friend chelsea is still my close friend make it and make it known that this
15:52is okay yep she got a do not moon people you don't know in places it's not okay hudson as
16:01an asian
16:01actor leading such a hugely popular queer romance what kind of stories or roles are you excited for
16:06more people to see you in going forward hmm yeah i i wanna i wanna represent my my wasians out
16:15there
16:15you know um i've been declared do you know about this i'm declared the i think princess or prince of
16:23wasia me i mean i i sign off on it okay i think you he's the final stamp off guy
16:30for this
16:31so uh yeah i'm the i'm the ambassador of wasian as a fully as a completely caucasian yes but as
16:40as
16:40this um little wasian i am i hope to just do roles that aren't always charged with you know i'm
16:50happy to
16:51do roles that are you know race has something to to play in there but also i just want to
16:55be an actor
16:57and a lot of times i just want to play parts where it's like i'm i'm just there and we
17:02don't need to
17:02go in my backstory or whatever it's just you know i'm playing with any other uh non
17:09person of color would play as well you know you're a person you want to be treated i'm a person
17:14love it baby on both heated rivalry and ember and ice you worked with an intimacy coordinator
17:20um why do you think that role matters on projects like this was there anything about the process
17:24that you think would surprise people wow i mean i think it's so um yeah that's a yeah that question
17:32is i mean it's so important i mean you you literally can't do things without that role um the thing
17:41that
17:41i think would shock people about the role of intimacy coordinating is it's not just about and this is what
17:48i
17:48learned from chayla originally and then also jamie doing this it's not just about the actual safety
17:54the boundaries monitoring what's going on what that looks like making sure everyone's okay there's also
18:00actually a conjunction of an artistic edge where you are like jamie with this you know was also the
18:08voice that was reminding us this is how long it's been since this happened you know you need to i
18:14need
18:14to hear that shiver or that i need to hear those um i need to hear that feeling through your
18:20wings i
18:21need to see that come about i need to feel that pleasure in this way so it's not always technical
18:26even though that's what i feel like is brought up a lot there is also an artistic sensibility to that
18:31job and that really promotes that conversation absolutely bring in the first ginger ale this is so
18:39fun we have canada dry we have schweps we have can you can someone give me a rundown of the
18:45brands
18:45nope you're gonna try it and we're gonna go i don't i've only named two from memory well how about
18:50this i'll hold it so we don't we don't give away anything yeah that's my hudson that's my hudson
19:03that's not canada dry this is some shitty american ginger ale this is like schweps or like um yeah
19:12that's my guess you said it's not canada dry why is it not canada dry yeah canada dry has got
19:17more
19:17ginger in it and more bubble in it it's just subtle ginger yeah go ahead and should we deep blindfold
19:24what you got we got you where is this imported from this this is this is no no way it
19:37says it says
19:37from frisco tex nope i don't i don't this is it changed it changed bring in ginger ale number two
19:47oh that is so embarrassing thank you so much this one was that one was canada dry what is this
19:56one
19:56um you're my baby drink more okay this is cough syrup this is this is yellow snow what is this
20:12a pissy
20:13pineapple but that's the brand hudson i have to guess the brand davai yeah this is schweps okay this
20:23one is schweps
20:29i am so happy that i'm not the one tasting these because if i was getting them wrong
20:34i'd feel like an idiot no i'm kidding stupid no you're not i mean they they really set you up
20:44give
20:44me another one do you have more bring me bring in how many more bring in the last one bring
20:51it to me
20:53oh this one's a hard one thank you
21:08that's um that's fever tree ginger um um beer hudson what what what what there's a there's a secondary
21:24flavor
21:26do you want to smell test too you want to do like no it's just ginger no but do like
21:30an aromatics test
21:34go full somme vibes do you smell that oh it's hard to it's hard to smell it's
21:41fucking ginger pear fucking it's ginger yeah i'm gonna be honest he would never be able to
21:47understand you can't taste that flavor at all let's see what blood orange good job you can't
21:53taste that at all you put food coloring in you didn't put no blood orange in there i will say
21:58i
21:58kind of like this one though that was that one's nice i like all of them but i guess the
22:02brand did i
22:03not you killed it when did you first realize you clicked and what are some of your favorite memories
22:09from working together i would say our first face time outside of a chemistry read because at that
22:16point i was always shane he was always ilia but then when we first met over face time before we
22:21went to toronto um we had so many like so much overlap of movies we liked actors we liked um
22:30art we
22:31liked and similar approaches to how we you know like to perform um that i immediately knew i think we
22:38clicked there and i think that's saying a lot because i think some of our our interests can be pretty
22:42niche the fact that there is overlap is amazing yeah and favorite memories i would say all our laughs
22:50on set being in muskoka um was really beautiful there was a lot of like lounging around um you know
22:58it was just great my favorite memories of working with you are also the laughs what's what's like an
23:04inside joke that we just died over the whole time um we had a storm the set that was also
23:11with oh yeah
23:11i would always be like storm the set but if we couldn't afford extras our idea was we would just
23:18like do like a cattle call we used to joke that like we um because we would have like airport
23:24scenes
23:24and stuff where there would be like you know for an airport you need like you need a bunch of
23:28people
23:28and we'd have like five people and i just imagined um i imagined jacob being like being like costumes
23:35get up there and everyone's like taking off their mics and he's like storm the set opening the garage
23:41and just like opening it up to the public how does it feel to accidentally launch a workout movement
23:49i can't i honestly still cannot believe that that was someone's takeaway from this you know i like
23:56i think i look a little too shabby i'm i'm in the process of gaining weight you know now yeah
24:01i was
24:01when you look you look freaking fantastic well bring it back to my spanish but just gracias
24:05de nada corazón de melón ah mi hermoso no esposo mi amor um yeah i people people like our bodies
24:17let's
24:17just be honest about it people you know i care about my health i care about my fitness as do
24:23you um
24:24um honestly watching the show is making us work out even more yeah so what drew you to doing a
24:30fey romanicy story and what was it about the script that hooked you for me it was exploring sensuality
24:37with with your voice you know that's the only tool you have and it kind of scared me a little
24:43bit and
24:44you know that there it was a really fun way to explore yourself it was fun it was actually fun
24:49and
24:49you know it's very demanding and it's well written i think in the booth the term winged hemingway came
24:59up you know fantastical hemingway because there was like war there's like this romance that's forbidden
25:06and it seems doomed uh in a lot of ways um and that was way heavier than i thought you
25:14know this would
25:15look like and it was really rewarding the story just moves really well too um it was just written
25:21really well uh as someone who you know is not a big reader i think something like this would be
25:28really
25:29appealing to me um just the way it it cycles through the feelings it cycles through the years
25:34and point of view yeah yeah i just think it's really like almost physically well done why do you think
25:40mm romance resonates so strongly with women right now um yeah we've we've both talked about this and
25:48kind of been intrigued by it um there's so many reasons there's so many reasons and then even just
25:53women you know there are straight women there are trans women there are um gay women like queer women
25:59it's it's um well that feels like a giant term to be like i know exactly what um you know
26:07there's like
26:08the element of you can live vicariously and you can feel safe um like with women this is just one
26:13opinion that i had never even considered or thought of um that i saw that i think you're alluding to
26:19which is if you are female um and you are you are taken out of the equation there's and you're
26:29you're
26:30there's a spectatorship to that there's like a there's a certain amount of separation that allows for
26:36safety you know like especially women um historically being put into a box in a certain way especially
26:41when it comes to sex and pleasure it feels like a nice separation to see sexuality and romance be
26:48lived out without um right female dynamic being yeah i i heard i heard someone online say a woman say
26:55that
26:55like when you see like a hetero um couple you know you default to like relating with or forced to
27:03sort of
27:03relate with the woman character um and then that comes with a lot of restriction and two and like
27:08imagination a lot of writers you know are writing very conventionally um which means a lot of
27:14outdated tropes um old archetypes and i think you know with getting to watch two men it's like they
27:20can kind of relate with this person in one moment they're empathetic to this person they're not forced
27:24into a box of here this is your person to relate with at the end of the day though we're
27:29both men
27:29i have no idea what it's like to be a woman um yeah and so y'all let us know
27:35yeah y'all tell us
27:37i think me because i would just be i'd be drinking i'd be somewhere i'd be like under a table
27:45yeah asleep naked but i will say you yes you're really freaking athletic and you're really strong
27:52and you know how to fight so if it came down to like a wrestling match between you and leather
27:57face
27:58freddy krueger i think you're taking the cake my boy i'm winning okay snack time
28:07me 100 percent yeah you have a little you have a tiny bit more reverence than i do um if
28:15something
28:15is overly serious i cannot help but laugh because i just become really like oh i become really aware of
28:21how do you do that kind of it's not that you left and now now i'm gonna leave
28:29bye connor will do the like the like it's like so serious he kind of gets a little take and
28:34then
28:34and i can't do his laugh do i do that do i do do i do a polly pocket hand
28:42you know what i accept myself this is what we're rocking this we're rocking it i accept myself
28:48me oh oh yeah i'm i'm dirty you're like you're pretty clean i'd eat anything off the ground no
28:58not me online more than i yeah well i just love youtube i love the little like
29:03video essay on this movie essay on this little actor have you learned this about genghis khan and
29:10i'm like why what there's so much to know nerd are these book talk trivia things
29:15h-e-a heaven eats ass i don't know yeah heaven eats ass is that it really what is it
29:22happily ever after yeah okay okay this one's harder the rake and the cake the what the rake
29:33and the cake well you break up some some people together and then you ass yeah are these all
29:40gonna be ass related this one they are for me the grumpy sunshine trip like the rake and the cake
29:47like
29:48oh right right right oh i like i like that i like those i like those ones yeah i like
29:54the grump
29:54why teams why is this a love triangle thing mm ooh threesome it scares me a little foot in both
30:03jars of peanut butter if you know what i mean don't make me nervous on twitter we're gonna react to
30:07some
30:07tweets you don't scare me connor's story you need to stop your face too smiley your ass too fat
30:14juicy your line delivery too good they'll kill you you really i mean you ended my delivery too good
30:19yeah you i i'm i'm cool with that i feel good um i i whenever we read tweets i don't
30:25know if i'm
30:26supposed to like thank you or if i'm supposed to like yeah genuinely be like whoa i guess all of
30:33it
30:33kind of hudson williams's back dimples that's it that's the tweet oh i didn't realize i had these
30:42little back dimples but then i i saw the receipts and i saw my dimpled cheek back thing and uh
30:50we were
30:50all singing it yeah i was i was seeing it damn for real i love whatever is wrong with y
30:56'all
30:59my cynthia and ariana
31:04fine i'm invested in heated rivalry not because of their giant bouncy
31:08but because it's a true yearner i'm a sucker for a good romance the yearning is is the thing i
31:16think
31:16that's that's probably the sexiest part for people honestly you want to know how we got these bodies
31:20you're in enough your ass gets fat despite all the memes i have enjoyed people seeing that physical
31:28intimacy isn't just spice on top of the romance but a vehicle to explore relationship dynamics
31:32and character and also physical and emotional intimacy are different but connected things
31:37jacob talks about this and that was one of the first things i think he brought to us um to
31:44try and
31:45explain his vision which was you know when you read the scripts when you read the pages it can sound
31:50very sex heavy but to know that the sex really is just the foundation of their relationship and how
31:57they connect um yeah i think that is i think that i think that's kind of you know for the
32:02first
32:02years of their life that's how they communicate that's where their relationship builds and you
32:07know that's not usually how sex is used in media yep meteor i need hudson williams to know
32:14that so many people imagine draw right and read about him getting pregnant including me
32:21is that crazy oh he knows and even comments on yeah mara heat arrival updates pointed this out to
32:26me i know when i learned that about it's crazy i was like whatever floats your boat you know um
32:32yeah
32:32i mean i i think that's like i think that's in the deep fanfic side yeah i don't understand it
32:39but
32:39i'm like you know what you freaks you gung-ho you go get it you know if you can go
32:44get fictional me
32:44pregnant fictional me knock him up this is another one about my butt again y'all aren't ready for this
32:54one connor's story deserves a-o-t-y what's a-o-t-y mean connor's story asks of the i
33:01don't like this
33:02tweet it should be asked century hey whoa whoa
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