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00:03Connor. Yes. We hear you love languages and accents. Other than Russian, what's
00:09your favorite? Ooh, I'm kind of always switching between languages. Right now, I really want to
00:16learn Spanish. I'm from West Texas, so I've always heard Spanish. And living in LA, there's Spanish
00:21everywhere. So it doesn't feel very, like, exotic to me, because I've heard it my whole life. But
00:28I think it's sexy. Spanish is muy sexy. Yes, I think Colombian Spanish, I think, is the
00:36sexiest language there is. I like the traditional Spain Spanish. Spain Spanish. Vamos a la playa
00:41de Barcelona. Barcelona. Con Javier Bader. Yeah. And Vanela Bicruz. Ana de Armas. Ana de Armas.
00:49She's Cuban, right? She's Cuban. Okay. Pretty girl. Well. Okay. This year marks 20 years
00:55since Brokeback Mountain. Are there any MM romance movies, shows, or books that have
00:59really stuck with you, either growing up or recently? Well, I love Brokeback Mountain.
01:04It was one of the first things that you told me. Yeah. Yeah. I love, um, Keith Ledger plays
01:08Ennis. I still think it's his best work. I think that was one of the first pivotal ones
01:13when you have two leading men, um, take on, you know, gay cowboys. It's pretty bold. But
01:19then, you know, you have Call Me By Your Name, um, Moonlight, I think with Barry Jenkins
01:23saying bringing the art house to the hood is what he said. That was already just a beautiful
01:29juxtaposition. And then having, you know, he said he wanted to redefine masculinity with
01:34that movie, which I thought was so cool. Yeah. Call Me By Your Name, I think was like
01:38pretty revolutionary. Yeah. Yeah. I was in high school at that time. And I remember that
01:42being the first thing, um, that felt like it was really a part of the cultural zeitgeist.
01:47Mm. Um, and also handled, like, it also handled queer stories in a really cool way where it
01:54was so under the surface and it made it so human, you know? Right. Um, which I think also
01:59was kind of like a, a Moonlight scenario where we're taking these people in such a specific
02:04time and place and, um, like letting them explore love, you know? Right. What does smut mean
02:11to you? Hmm. I'm going to try to make an acronym, sexy, where this is going to be in
02:19relation to, um, into Emberan Eyes. Sexy, Magic, um, Universe. Right. T, T, T, T, T, T, T, T, T,
02:35T, T pronto.
02:39I have no idea.
02:40What did I say?
02:41Sexy, magic, universe.
02:47Titillating.
02:48Yeah.
02:49Yeah, we'll do that.
02:50Titillating.
02:51Oh, you very publicly shot your shot for Nightwing,
02:55which was extremely fun to watch.
02:57Have you been a DC fan?
02:59And what is it like to see fans instantly rally behind you,
03:02especially the ones that say you have the face,
03:04the talent, and the butt?
03:05I will be completely honest.
03:08When I saw, like, some fan art of you as Nightwing,
03:11I was, like, blown away.
03:13Whoa.
03:14Like, I mean, you never know if that's going to come to fruition or not,
03:18but when I see, like, someone did you in the comic book style,
03:22I was like, I see it right away.
03:23Wow.
03:24Yeah, I would love to play him.
03:26I love DC.
03:28I loved all, like, comic books that were true
03:34to the source material.
03:37And I think, you know, there are a lot of good filmmakers
03:41who, like, bring their own style to these, you know,
03:46beloved comics that I think it would be really great to work with them.
03:49You know, I'm not fully set on Nightwing.
03:51You know, I'm open to other things.
03:54Did you always want to be in, like, did, is superheroes?
03:58No.
03:59Is that always something that's been, like, I need to do that?
04:01Absolutely not.
04:02It's just kind of come on.
04:02It's when really good filmmaker, it's filmmaker-driven.
04:06So when, like, a guy like James Gunn or Matt Reeves, you know,
04:10comes to comics, I think that's what draws me.
04:15And I heard James Gunn is doing the Teen Titans.
04:18I know it was, yeah, but, yeah.
04:21James Gunn, he's in love with you.
04:23True or false, Hudson is more like Ilya in real life
04:26and Conor is more like Shane.
04:28I think me and you are both like Rose.
04:31And I'm like Svetlana.
04:33I just said me and you are both like Rose.
04:36But I'm just parting ways.
04:37That's so Svetlana for you to say.
04:40I don't know.
04:42I mean, maybe I do feel like Ilya.
04:45I don't know.
04:46I think that I'm too sensitive or outwardly sensitive
04:51or don't have a lot of shame around emotion to be Ilya.
04:54I could be a little cocky like Ilya.
04:56Yeah.
04:57But beyond that, it's like I think Shane and Ilya
05:00sort of share a soulfulness that's kind of buried
05:04under all these walls and kind of masks.
05:08But I think underneath that,
05:11what we both relate with both of them
05:13is, you know, the heart and their soul.
05:17After wrapping Heated Rivalry,
05:19you two got matching tattoos that say sex sales.
05:21And if true, how did that happen?
05:25Did I have a reason for coming up to Vancouver?
05:27I just wanted to come see you.
05:29Yeah, come hang out.
05:29Am I not good enough?
05:30Come on.
05:31Yeah, I just, I don't know why for a second I was like,
05:33I have something to do up there.
05:35I have nothing to do in Vancouver.
05:37I was there.
05:38So, yeah, I just went up to see,
05:41I just came up to see you.
05:43We knew we wanted to get matching tattoos.
05:44I hadn't gotten a tattoo in forever.
05:47And we were just shuffling through ideas.
05:49And yeah, we did it.
05:50I think you came up with sex sales.
05:52But like we were both pitching ideas.
05:54And then one person would like them,
05:56the other person wouldn't.
05:57And then when you said sex sales,
05:58I was like, oh.
05:59We were sold.
06:00That's the first idea you've had.
06:01That's good.
06:01I think it's honestly my most well-done tattoo as well.
06:04I know.
06:04So that feels good.
06:05The front of my shin.
06:07Pull in here.
06:08Zoom in.
06:09Okay.
06:10True or false.
06:11You ate a pound of beef,
06:13of ground beef a day while filming.
06:15Heated Rivalry.
06:16True.
06:17Connor told me what his routine was.
06:20And after I saw him in person,
06:22I asked him how he got to that size.
06:24I thought he was taking illicit substances.
06:27He wasn't.
06:28He does it super clean.
06:29Sorry I mentioned illicit substances.
06:32But he was...
06:33I have nothing to hide.
06:34Bring it on.
06:34But he was so...
06:37Just like...
06:39So I was like,
06:40what are you eating, freak?
06:42And I was like,
06:43I'm eating...
06:45And he just couldn't speak.
06:47And he just kept doing that.
06:48And I was like,
06:48I think that means ground beef.
06:50You're like,
06:51that level of capability is what I need.
06:54And then Connor was actually the person
06:55who put me onto fiber.
06:56Because if you need to eat the protein,
06:58you want to get, you know,
07:00iliac cheeks and chests.
07:03You need so much fiber
07:05just so your stomach doesn't shut down
07:07and you go into cardiac arrest
07:09and you get carried out
07:10from your little workout on a stretcher
07:12with some, you know,
07:14pumped up pecs
07:14and a shut down fucking digestive system.
07:18It's really unfortunate if it ends that way.
07:20Yeah.
07:20Yeah, I actually...
07:22I'm going to one-up this true or false.
07:24I actually think that
07:25we ate more than a pound of beef.
07:27Yeah.
07:27Because a pound of beef only has,
07:28I think, 84 grams of protein
07:30and you need a solid 200
07:32for a large size and shape.
07:35So sometimes I can eat
07:36two pounds of ground beef a day.
07:38Plus like 10 eggs.
07:39Yeah.
07:40And so many salads.
07:41I was having so much salad.
07:42Because by the end,
07:43I got like gained 10 pounds.
07:45So like when I started shooting,
07:46I was like...
07:47And by the end,
07:47I was like 10 pounds heavier.
07:49And it was because of ground beef.
07:50Yeah, you...
07:51I mean, you're very inspiring.
07:52I'm glad that we had each other
07:53because it would have been
07:55really hard to be motivated
07:56if, you know,
07:57we were going back to our...
07:5812-hour days and then the gym.
08:00And then like going back
08:00to a residence like alone.
08:02It's really...
08:02It's nice that I got to be like,
08:05hi, son.
08:05Let's go to gym.
08:07And we would go
08:08from a fucking 11-hour day
08:10skating lesson
08:10and Connor would go,
08:11let's do legs.
08:13And I looked at him.
08:14He's a madman.
08:15That's how he has a butt.
08:16He'll finish a skating lesson
08:18that takes four hours
08:19and then go,
08:20legs now?
08:21And I was like,
08:21what are you saying?
08:23I...
08:23Okay.
08:24I knew I had a responsibility
08:27to the people.
08:28He's America's ass.
08:30And I take that
08:31very seriously.
08:33Romance readers
08:34are famously passionate
08:35about book adaptations.
08:36Did you feel any pressure
08:37bringing a beloved story to life
08:39and how did you approach
08:40making the characters your own?
08:42It's good, I think,
08:43to go into a project
08:45accepting that, you know,
08:47people might be disappointed,
08:49especially with something
08:49like a book
08:50where everyone already
08:51has preconceived notions.
08:52They've envisioned
08:54these characters.
08:54They've drawn these characters.
08:56They've gotten tattoos
08:57of these characters.
08:58Like the love
08:59is already there so much
09:00that ultimately
09:01someone is going
09:02to be disappointed.
09:03All you can do
09:05is read the material
09:07as much as you possibly can
09:11and respect it,
09:13show the respect,
09:14show the dedication
09:15and just hope
09:15that people, you know,
09:17connect with it
09:17and love it
09:18and see that enthusiasm.
09:19I think we both
09:20had that level of,
09:21whether you want
09:22to call it nihilism or not,
09:23like people might
09:25just hate this.
09:25People might hate
09:26your casting
09:27or they might hate
09:27my casting.
09:28I'm not going to expect
09:29anything more
09:31and I'm just
09:32going to do
09:32the best I can
09:33but you have
09:34really no metric
09:35of if people
09:37are going to be
09:37warm to your take.
09:39I really think
09:39at the end of the day
09:40all you can do
09:41is be really intentional,
09:43give it 150%,
09:45and just go for it.
09:47And luckily for us,
09:49this worked out
09:50really freaking well.
09:55Hudson,
09:56we have heard rumors
09:56about a very serious
09:58multi-step Korean
09:59skincare routine.
10:00Can you break it down
10:00for us?
10:01It's not that lengthy.
10:02Yeah, I always
10:03made fun of you
10:03for it too
10:04because I'm like,
10:05honestly,
10:06I'm just kind of jealous
10:07because you have
10:07really good skin.
10:09But I'm always like,
10:10yeah, your skin routine.
10:11And then it's actually
10:12not that long.
10:13It's not that long.
10:13It's okay.
10:15I'm going to tell you.
10:16In the morning,
10:16I use water
10:18to cleanse my face.
10:19Warm water.
10:20And then I put on
10:21a glow toner
10:23but it's pretty dry.
10:24It's not like,
10:25I don't like when people
10:26have like dewy skin.
10:27Like if I see someone
10:28that looks like
10:28they just wore a face mask,
10:29I'm like,
10:29why are you out right now?
10:31Like go wipe that off
10:32and then come talk to me
10:33because I won't right now.
10:35And then so my toner
10:36and then I'll put on
10:38a serum
10:40and then sunscreen.
10:42And then sometimes
10:42instead of a serum,
10:43I put on a moisturizer.
10:44And then my PM routine
10:46is an oil cleanser,
10:48you know,
10:48to get out these blackheads
10:49to get the gunk out.
10:52And then I'll either use
10:53like a CeraVe
10:55normal ass cleanser
10:56or I'll use
10:57like a pore shrinking cleanser.
10:58That's their new,
10:59that's their new slogan.
11:01CeraVe
11:01normal ass cleanser.
11:04I think that is.
11:06I, yeah,
11:06I also like.
11:07And then like a pore shrink
11:08or a pore shrinking cleanser
11:10if that's my goal.
11:11And then the same thing,
11:12toner, serum,
11:13and then either a retinol
11:15or a salicylic acid.
11:16And then I go to
11:16fucking sleep.
11:19So I think
11:20everyone in the studio agrees
11:21that was a lot.
11:23Well,
11:23I will also say,
11:24I mean,
11:24it makes sense.
11:25You have flawless skin.
11:27So.
11:28And then when I take it off,
11:29it just falls apart.
11:30Yeah.
11:31He unhooks the,
11:32he unhooks the clip back here.
11:34Slip in the back.
11:35Keeps it all up.
11:36Connor.
11:37Yes.
11:38Story.
11:38Yes.
11:39Do you have a favorite
11:40spicy scene from Heated Rivalry
11:41and a favorite from Ember and Ice?
11:43What makes those stand out for you?
11:44My favorite spicy scene
11:45from Ember and Ice
11:47is actually a scene
11:48where Dane
11:49is with two former lovers,
11:52Cassandra and Elijah.
11:53Yep.
11:58I need you to,
11:59I need you to be here with me.
12:01Okay.
12:02Dane has an interaction
12:04with two of his former lovers
12:06after having been with Finn
12:09for some time.
12:11and yeah,
12:13not to spoil,
12:14but he ends up realizing
12:15that what really works for him
12:18isn't working for him anymore.
12:20And it's kind of this moment
12:21of identity loss
12:22and, you know,
12:24what pleases me
12:25isn't pleasing me the same.
12:26I think that's really cool.
12:28Because it's also,
12:28it's,
12:29because it's cool
12:29because it's like sexy and spicy,
12:31but it also is really revealing
12:33of the character
12:34and the connection
12:34and where he's at,
12:36you know.
12:36And I think it's funny,
12:37I think I remember Dane
12:39saying something about,
12:41he's like,
12:41he's like,
12:42and then the next thing I did
12:43was I just had to come up
12:45with an excuse.
12:46And then he's like,
12:47he's like,
12:47my friends,
12:48I have bad news.
12:50I have a lot from Ember and Ice,
12:51but one is the lake scene
12:54where we kind of go in together
12:56and you kind of coax it out of me
12:57without spoiling too much.
12:59I think that one's just,
13:01you know,
13:02a lot of times
13:02like the intimacy before intimacy,
13:04I think it has more of a charge
13:06in a way.
13:07That one really got me
13:10frothing at the mouth.
13:11And Heated Rivalry,
13:12favorite intimate scene.
13:15There was one that was
13:16really fun to film.
13:17Do you remember
13:17filming the stair-step scene
13:18when we're like kissing
13:19against the glass
13:20and our lips never come apart?
13:22Me and you were like,
13:23do people do this?
13:25Do people?
13:26I know,
13:26it's always a fun balance,
13:27right?
13:28Of like,
13:28when you're filming,
13:30separate from like
13:31the audio space
13:32when you're filming,
13:33it's like,
13:34how much of it
13:35is fun TV
13:38and then how much of it
13:39is like true sex?
13:41Because at the end of the day,
13:42you know,
13:42you do have,
13:43in real life,
13:44people do have those
13:45movie moments
13:46where you're like,
13:47you know,
13:47and you're like,
13:48yeah.
13:49And then everyone on set
13:49was like,
13:50oh yeah,
13:50no,
13:50I've done that.
13:51And then Connor and I
13:52were like,
13:53oh,
13:53we usually fold our clothes,
13:56place them down,
13:57then go upstairs.
13:57We're both chained,
13:58naked and go,
14:00sex now?
14:01Sex now?
14:01I'm robot.
14:03Plug me in.
14:04True or false,
14:06Hudson's roommates
14:07once kept a mooning tally
14:09of how many times
14:10he flashed them.
14:11Do you know?
14:12How many times?
14:14I know that you,
14:14I've, yeah,
14:15I remember this.
14:16Yep.
14:16It's true.
14:17It was one roommate.
14:19And I,
14:20I mooned him
14:2131 times.
14:23What was his reaction
14:24when you mooned him?
14:25Was he like,
14:26Hudson?
14:28Her poor name
14:29was Chelsea.
14:30I, I,
14:30I've talked with her
14:31and Chelsea has been like,
14:32you can say my name.
14:33And I was like,
14:34so I've since talked
14:35about this since.
14:36Double consent.
14:37Double consent.
14:38Um,
14:38and,
14:39uh,
14:39poor Chelsea would just go,
14:40I think her main reaction
14:41was like,
14:42oh,
14:44Hudson,
14:44ah.
14:46And it made me
14:48so happy.
14:50We're,
14:50we're,
14:51where is Chelsea now?
14:52And I,
14:52I developed different
14:53techniques over the years.
14:55Um,
14:56she's chilling.
14:56She's got a cat
14:57that's like hanging
14:58off her walls.
14:59Um,
14:59but I would go
15:00and I would do like
15:00a drive-by
15:01at all these different
15:02techniques.
15:02And then she would bring
15:03like other,
15:05you know,
15:05um,
15:06romantic interests home.
15:07And then they're like,
15:08what's this tally
15:09up on the board?
15:10And they're like,
15:10oh,
15:10that's how many times
15:12Hudson,
15:12my roommate,
15:13has mooned me.
15:14And they were like,
15:15would you just like
15:16kind of butt crack it
15:17or would you full chill?
15:17So I had one
15:18where I would
15:19get pants low,
15:21like I would de-pants
15:22and she would be
15:23unassuming,
15:23like maybe on her phone
15:24on the couch
15:25and I would run by
15:27and jump in the air.
15:28So I was like a,
15:30like,
15:31like a,
15:31like a,
15:31like a literal moon,
15:32a literal moon,
15:33but in fast motion.
15:34Sometimes I would just
15:35do the like,
15:36oh,
15:36drop something before we leave,
15:37bend and I'm right there.
15:39Gotcha.
15:40Oh God.
15:42Yes.
15:43No,
15:44they,
15:44they got very athletic.
15:45But we need to clarify,
15:46if you were going to moon someone,
15:48make it a close friend.
15:49Chelsea is still my close friend.
15:51Make it known that this is okay.
15:52Yep.
15:53She got a who out of it.
15:54Do not moon people
15:56you don't know
15:57in places
15:58it's not okay.
16:00Hudson,
16:00as an Asian actor leading
16:02such a hugely popular
16:03queer romance,
16:04what kind of stories
16:04or roles are you excited
16:05for more people
16:06to see you in
16:07going forward?
16:08Hmm.
16:10Yeah,
16:10I,
16:11I want to,
16:12I want to represent
16:13my,
16:14my Wajians out there.
16:15You know,
16:16um,
16:17I've been declared,
16:18do you know about this?
16:20Mm-mm.
16:20I'm declared the,
16:22I think princess
16:22or prince of Wajia.
16:24Me.
16:26I mean,
16:27I,
16:27I sign off on it.
16:28Okay.
16:28I think you,
16:29he's the final stamp-off guy
16:30for this.
16:32Yeah.
16:33I'm the,
16:33I'm the ambassador
16:34of Wajia
16:35as a fully,
16:36as a completely Caucasian.
16:38Yes.
16:39But,
16:39uh,
16:40as,
16:40as,
16:41uh,
16:41this,
16:41um,
16:42little Wajian I am,
16:44I hope
16:45to just do roles
16:47that aren't always
16:48charged with,
16:50you know,
16:50I'm happy to do roles
16:51that are,
16:52you know,
16:52race has something
16:53to,
16:53to play in there.
16:54But also,
16:55I just want to be an actor
16:56and a lot of the times
16:57I just want to play parts
16:58where it's like,
17:00I'm,
17:00I'm just there
17:01and we don't need to go
17:02in my backstory
17:03or whatever.
17:04It's just,
17:05you know,
17:05I'm playing with any other,
17:07uh,
17:08non-person of color
17:10would play as well.
17:11You know?
17:12You're a person.
17:13You want to be treated?
17:13I'm a person.
17:14Love it, baby.
17:15On both
17:16Heated Rivalry
17:17and Ember and Ice,
17:18you worked with
17:19an intimacy coordinator.
17:20Um,
17:21why do you think
17:21that role matters
17:22on projects like this?
17:23Was there anything
17:23about the process
17:24that you think
17:25would surprise people?
17:27Wow.
17:27I mean,
17:27I think it's so,
17:29um,
17:30yeah,
17:30that's a,
17:31yeah,
17:31that question is,
17:32I mean,
17:33it's so important.
17:34I mean,
17:35you,
17:36you literally can't
17:37do things
17:38without that role.
17:40Um,
17:41the thing that I think
17:41would shock people
17:42about the role
17:43of intimacy coordinating
17:44is it's not just about,
17:47and this is what I learned
17:48from Shayla originally
17:49and then also Jamie
17:50doing this.
17:51It's not just about
17:52the actual safety,
17:54the boundaries,
17:55monitoring what's going on,
17:57what that looks like,
17:58making sure everyone's okay.
17:59There's also actually
18:01a conjunction
18:02of an artistic edge
18:03where you are,
18:06like Jamie with this,
18:07you know,
18:07was also the voice
18:08that was reminding us,
18:10this is how long
18:11it's been since this happened.
18:12You know,
18:12you need to,
18:13I need to hear that shiver
18:15or that I need to hear those,
18:17um,
18:18I need to hear that feeling
18:20through your wings.
18:21I need to see that come about.
18:23I need to feel that pleasure
18:24in this way.
18:25So it's not always technical,
18:26even though that's what I feel
18:27like has brought up a lot.
18:28There is also an artistic
18:30sensibility to that job
18:31and that really promotes
18:32that conversation.
18:34Absolutely.
18:35Bring in the first ginger ale.
18:38This is so fun.
18:40We have Canada Dry,
18:41we have Schweppes,
18:42we have,
18:44can you,
18:44can someone give me
18:44a rundown of the brands?
18:45Nope, you're going to try it
18:46and we're going to go.
18:47Yes.
18:47I don't,
18:48I've only named two
18:49from memory.
18:50Well, how about this?
18:50I'll hold it so we don't,
18:51we don't give away anything.
18:53Yeah, it's really going to have
18:53flavors,
18:53so you can describe the flavor
18:55and the texture for it.
18:58Yep, that's my Hudson.
19:00That's my Hudson.
19:03That's not Canada Dry.
19:04This is some shitty
19:05American ginger ale.
19:06This is like Schweppes
19:09or like,
19:11um,
19:12yeah,
19:12that's my guess.
19:13You said it's not Canada Dry.
19:14Why is it not Canada Dry?
19:16Canada Dry's got more ginger in it
19:18and more bubble in it.
19:19It's just subtle ginger.
19:21Yeah.
19:22Go ahead and,
19:23should we de-blind flip?
19:24Go ahead and take a little bit.
19:27You got,
19:29we got you.
19:31Where is this imported from?
19:33This,
19:34this is,
19:35this is,
19:35no,
19:36no way.
19:37It says,
19:37it says from Frisco, Texas.
19:39Nope.
19:40Frisco, Texas, baby.
19:41I don't,
19:41I don't,
19:42this is,
19:43it changed,
19:44it changed.
19:44Bring in ginger ale number two.
19:47That is so embarrassing.
19:50Thank you so much.
19:52This one was,
19:53that one was Canada Dry.
19:55What is this one?
19:57I'm good.
19:58Um,
19:58num,
19:58num.
19:59Um,
20:00num,
20:00num.
20:01You're my baby.
20:03Drink more.
20:05This is cough syrup.
20:07This is,
20:09this is yellow snow.
20:11What is this?
20:12A pissy pineapple.
20:14But,
20:15that's the brand,
20:16Hudson.
20:17I have to guess the brand?
20:20Давай,
20:20yeah.
20:21This is Schweppes.
20:22Okay,
20:23this one is Schweppes.
20:24Schweppes.
20:25It's also getting it to dry.
20:30I am so happy that I'm not the one tasting these,
20:33because if I was getting them wrong,
20:34I'd feel like an idiot.
20:36No,
20:36I'm kidding.
20:37I'm kidding.
20:39Stupid.
20:40Stupid.
20:41No,
20:41you're not.
20:42I mean,
20:42they,
20:43they really set you up.
20:44Give me another one.
20:45Do you have more?
20:46Bring me,
20:47bring in,
20:48how many more?
20:49Bring in the last one.
20:51Bring it to me.
20:53Oh,
20:54bring in the last one.
21:09That's,
21:11that's Fevertree ginger beer.
21:16Hudson?
21:18What?
21:19What flavor?
21:20There's a,
21:20there's a secondary flavor.
21:26Do you want a smell test too?
21:27You want to do like a,
21:28No,
21:28it's just ginger.
21:29No,
21:30but do like an aromatics test.
21:34Go,
21:34full Somme vibes.
21:37Do you smell that?
21:39Oh,
21:39it's hard to,
21:40it's hard to smell.
21:41It's fucking ginger,
21:42pear?
21:43Fucking,
21:44it's ginger.
21:44Yeah,
21:45I'm going to be honest.
21:45He would never be able to,
21:47you can't taste that flavor at all.
21:50Woo!
21:51What?
21:52Blood orange?
21:52Good job.
21:53You can't taste that at all.
21:54You put food coloring in.
21:56You didn't put no blood orange in there.
21:57I will say,
21:58I kind of like this one though.
21:59That one's,
22:00that one's nice.
22:01I like all of them.
22:02But I guess the brand,
22:03did I not?
22:03You killed it.
22:05When did you first realize you clicked?
22:07And what are some of your favorite memories
22:09from working together?
22:11Hmm.
22:12I would say our first FaceTime
22:14outside of a chemistry read,
22:15because at that point,
22:16I was always Shane.
22:17He was always Ilya.
22:18But then when we first met over FaceTime
22:21before we went to Toronto,
22:24we had so many,
22:26like so much overlap of movies we liked,
22:28actors we liked,
22:30art we liked,
22:31and similar approaches to how we,
22:33you know,
22:34like to perform,
22:35that I immediately knew.
22:37I think we clicked there.
22:38And I think that's saying a lot,
22:39because I think some of our,
22:40our interests can be pretty niche.
22:43The fact that there is overlap is amazing.
22:46And favorite memories,
22:47I would say all our laughs on set.
22:51Being in Muskoka was really beautiful.
22:54There was a lot of like lounging around.
22:58You know,
22:58it was just great.
22:59My favorite memories of working with you
23:01are also the laughs.
23:03What's like an inside joke
23:04that we just died over the whole time?
23:09We had a storm the set.
23:10That was also with...
23:11Oh, yeah.
23:12I would always be like,
23:13storm the set!
23:15If we couldn't afford extras,
23:16our idea was we would just like,
23:18do like a cattle call.
23:20We used to joke that like we,
23:22because we would have like airport scenes and stuff,
23:24where there would be like,
23:25you know,
23:26for an airport,
23:27you need like a bunch of people
23:28and we'd have like five people.
23:29And I just imagined,
23:31I imagined Jacob being like,
23:34being like,
23:35Costo,
23:35get up there!
23:36And everyone's like taking off their mics
23:37and he's like,
23:38storm the set!
23:40Opening the garage
23:41and just like opening it up to the public.
23:44How does it feel
23:45to accidentally launch a workout movement?
23:49I can't,
23:50I honestly still cannot believe
23:51that that was someone's takeaway from this,
23:55you know?
23:55I,
23:56like,
23:56I think I look a little too shabby.
23:58I'm in the process of gaining weight right now.
24:00Yeah,
24:01I was,
24:01when you look,
24:02you look freaking fantastic.
24:04bring it back to my Spanish.
24:05Muchas gracias.
24:06De nada,
24:06corazón de melón.
24:08Ah,
24:08mi hermoso.
24:10No,
24:10esposo,
24:10mi amor.
24:11Todo mi corazón.
24:14Yeah,
24:15people like our bodies.
24:17Let's just be honest about it.
24:18People,
24:19you know,
24:20I care about my health,
24:21I care about my fitness,
24:22as do you.
24:24Honestly,
24:25watching the show
24:26is making us work out even more.
24:28Yeah.
24:29So what drew you
24:30to doing a Faye Romantisi story
24:31and what was it about the script
24:32that hooked you?
24:33For me,
24:34it was exploring sensuality
24:37with your voice.
24:38You know,
24:38that's the only tool you have
24:41and it kind of scared me a little bit
24:43and,
24:44you know,
24:44it was a really fun way
24:46to explore yourself.
24:48It was fun.
24:48It was actually fun.
24:49And,
24:49you know,
24:50it's very demanding
24:50and it's well written.
24:52I think in the booth,
24:54the term winged Hemingway came up,
24:59you know,
25:00fantastical Hemingway
25:01because there was like war,
25:03there's like this romance
25:04that's forbidden
25:06and it seems doomed
25:08in a lot of ways
25:10and that was way heavier
25:13than I thought,
25:14you know,
25:14this would look like
25:15and it was really rewarding.
25:17The story just moves
25:19really well too.
25:20It was just written really well.
25:23As someone who,
25:25you know,
25:25is not a big reader,
25:27I think something like this
25:28would be really appealing to me.
25:30Just the way it cycles
25:32through the feelings,
25:33it cycles through the years.
25:35Different point of views.
25:36I just think it's really like
25:37almost physically well done.
25:39Why do you think
25:40MM romance resonates
25:41so strongly with women right now?
25:44Hmm.
25:46Yeah,
25:46we've both talked about this
25:48and kind of been intrigued
25:49by it.
25:50There's so many reasons.
25:51There's so many reasons
25:52and then even just women,
25:53you know,
25:53there are straight women,
25:55there are trans women,
25:57there are gay women,
25:59like queer women.
26:00It's,
26:01well,
26:01that feels like a giant term
26:03to be like,
26:04I know exactly.
26:05Why?
26:07You know,
26:07there's like the element
26:08of you can live vicariously
26:09and you can feel safe.
26:11Like with women,
26:12this is just one opinion
26:13that I had never even considered
26:15or thought of
26:17that I saw that I think
26:18you're alluding to,
26:19which is if you are female
26:21and you are,
26:25you are taken out of the equation,
26:28there's,
26:29and you're,
26:30there's a spectatorship to that.
26:32There's like,
26:32there's a certain amount of separation
26:34that allows for safety,
26:36you know,
26:37like especially women
26:39historically being put into a box
26:41in a certain way,
26:41especially when it comes to sex
26:43and pleasure.
26:43It feels like a nice separation
26:45to see sexuality and romance
26:48be lived out
26:49without the female dynamic being.
26:52Yeah,
26:52I heard,
26:53I heard someone online say,
26:54a woman say that like,
26:55when you see like a hetero couple,
26:59you know,
27:00you default to like relating with,
27:02or forced to sort of relate
27:03with a woman character.
27:05And then that comes with
27:06a lot of restriction in two,
27:07and like imagination.
27:09A lot of writers,
27:10you know,
27:10are writing very conventionally,
27:12which means a lot of outdated tropes,
27:15old archetypes.
27:16And I think,
27:17you know,
27:18with getting to watch two men,
27:20it's like,
27:20they can kind of relate with this person.
27:21In one moment,
27:22they're empathetic to this person.
27:23They're not forced into a box of here.
27:25This is your person to relate with.
27:27At the end of the day, though,
27:28we're both men.
27:30I have no idea what it's like
27:31to be a woman.
27:33Yeah.
27:33And so,
27:34y'all let us know.
27:35Yeah.
27:35Y'all tell us.
27:37I think me,
27:39because I would just be,
27:41I'd be drinking.
27:42I'd be somewhere,
27:43I'd be like under a table.
27:45Yeah.
27:46Asleep,
27:46naked.
27:47But I will say,
27:48you,
27:48you're really freaking athletic,
27:51and you're really strong,
27:52and you know how to fight.
27:54So if it came down to like,
27:55a wrestling match between you and
27:57freaking Freddy Krueger,
27:59I think you're taking the cake,
28:01my boy.
28:02I'm winning.
28:02Woo.
28:04Okay.
28:05Snack time.
28:07Me,
28:08100%.
28:09Yeah.
28:10You have a little,
28:11you have a tiny bit more reverence
28:13than I do.
28:14If something is overly serious,
28:16I cannot help but laugh.
28:18because I just become really like,
28:20oh,
28:20I become really aware of how.
28:22Do the kind of,
28:25it's not that.
28:26You left,
28:26and now,
28:27now I'm going to leave.
28:28Bye.
28:29Connor will do the,
28:30like,
28:31the like,
28:32it's like so serious,
28:33he kind of gets a little take,
28:34and then he goes,
28:34and I can't do his laugh.
28:35Do I do that?
28:36Do I do,
28:37and then he goes,
28:38do I do a Polly pocket hand?
28:42I accept myself.
28:44This is what,
28:44we're rocking this.
28:45We're rocking it.
28:46I accept myself.
28:48Me.
28:49Oh,
28:49yeah.
28:49I'm dirty.
28:50You're like,
28:51you're pretty clean.
28:52I'd eat anything off the ground.
28:54No.
28:57Not me.
28:59I'm online more than I am.
28:59Yeah,
29:00well,
29:00I just love YouTube.
29:01I love the little,
29:02like,
29:03video essay on this movie,
29:05essay on this little actor.
29:07Have you learned this about Genghis Khan?
29:09And I'm like,
29:10wow,
29:10there's so much to know.
29:12Nerd.
29:12Are these book talk trivia things?
29:15H-E-A.
29:16Heaven eats ass.
29:18I don't know.
29:18Yeah,
29:19heaven eats ass,
29:20is that it?
29:20Really?
29:21What is it?
29:22Happily Ever After.
29:24Fuck.
29:25Yeah,
29:26okay.
29:28Okay,
29:29this one's harder,
29:29the rake and the cake.
29:31The what?
29:32The rake and the cake.
29:34Well,
29:35you rake up some,
29:36some people together
29:37and then you,
29:38ass.
29:39Yeah,
29:39are these all gonna be
29:40ass related?
29:43They are for me.
29:47Oh,
29:48right,
29:48right.
29:49Oh,
29:50I see.
29:50Oh,
29:50I like,
29:51I like that.
29:52I like those.
29:52I like those ones.
29:53Yeah,
29:53I like the grump.
29:54Why teams?
29:56Why?
29:57Is this a love triangle thing?
29:59ooh.
30:00Threesome.
30:01It scares me a little.
30:02Foot in both jars of peanut butter,
30:03if you know what I mean.
30:05Don't make me nervous on Twitter,
30:06we're gonna react to some tweets.
30:08You don't scare me.
30:09Connor's story,
30:10you need to stop.
30:11Your face too smiley,
30:12your ass too fat,
30:14your line delivery too good,
30:16they'll kill you.
30:16You really,
30:17I mean,
30:17you ended on a...
30:18Line delivery,
30:19too good.
30:19Yeah,
30:20I'm cool with that.
30:21I feel good.
30:23I,
30:23I,
30:24whenever we read tweets,
30:25I don't know if I'm supposed to like,
30:27thank you,
30:28or if I'm supposed to like,
30:30genuinely be like,
30:31whoa.
30:32I guess all of it,
30:33kind of.
30:34Hudson Williams' back dimples.
30:37That's it,
30:37that's the tweet.
30:38Oh,
30:39I didn't realize I had
30:41these little back dimples,
30:42but then I,
30:43I saw the receipts
30:45and I saw my
30:47dimpled cheek,
30:48back thing
30:49and,
30:50uh,
30:50We were all singing it.
30:51Yeah.
30:52I was,
30:52I was singing it.
30:53Damn.
30:54For real.
30:55I love whatever is wrong with y'all.
30:59My Cynthia and Ariana.
31:04Fine.
31:05I'm invested in heated rivalry.
31:06Not because of their giant,
31:08bouncy blub blub blub,
31:09but because
31:10it's a true yearner.
31:12I'm a sucker for a good romance.
31:13The yearning is,
31:14is the thing.
31:16I think that's,
31:16that's probably the sexiest part
31:18for people,
31:18honestly.
31:19You want to know how we got
31:20these bodies?
31:20If you yearn enough,
31:22your ass gets fat.
31:23Despite all the memes,
31:25I have enjoyed people seeing
31:26that physical intimacy
31:28isn't just spice
31:29on top of the romance,
31:30but a vehicle to explore
31:31relationship dynamics
31:32and character
31:33and also physical
31:35and emotional intimacy
31:36are different
31:36but connected things.
31:38Jacob talks about this
31:38and that was one
31:39of the first things
31:40I think he
31:41brought to us
31:44to try and
31:45explain his vision,
31:46which was,
31:46you know,
31:47when you read the scripts,
31:48when you read the pages,
31:49it can sound very sex heavy,
31:50but to know that the sex
31:53really is
31:54just the foundation
31:55of their relationship
31:56and how they connect.
31:58Yeah,
31:58I think that is,
31:59I think that,
31:59I think that's kind of,
32:01you know,
32:01for the first years
32:03of their life,
32:03that's how they communicate.
32:04That's where their
32:05relationship builds
32:06and,
32:07you know,
32:07That's not usually
32:07how sex is used
32:09in media.
32:11Meteor.
32:12I need Hudson Williams
32:13to know that
32:14so many people
32:15imagine,
32:15draw,
32:16write,
32:16and read about him
32:17getting pregnant,
32:19including me.
32:21Is that crazy?
32:22Oh,
32:22he knows
32:22and even comments on it.
32:23Yeah,
32:23Mara,
32:24Key to Rivalry Updates,
32:25pointed this out to me.
32:26I know,
32:26when I learned that
32:27about the fan fiction,
32:28I was like,
32:29whatever floats your boat,
32:30you know,
32:32yeah,
32:32I mean,
32:33I think that's like,
32:34I think that's in the
32:35deep fanfic side.
32:36Yeah,
32:37I don't understand it,
32:39but I'm like,
32:40you know what,
32:41you freaks,
32:41you gung-ho,
32:42you go get it.
32:43You know,
32:43if you can go get
32:44fictional me pregnant.
32:46Fictional me.
32:48Knock him up.
32:50This is another one
32:51about my butt,
32:52again,
32:53y'all aren't ready
32:53for this one.
32:55Connor's story
32:55deserves A-O-T-Y.
32:57What's A-O-T-Y?
32:58What's A-O-T-Y mean?
33:00Connor's story,
33:00ass of the...
33:01I don't like this tweet.
33:02It should be
33:03ass of the century.
33:04Hey,
33:05whoa,
33:05whoa!
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