Dall’ascesa di Antonio Bardellino nella lotta contro la Nuova Camorra Organizzata di Raffaele Cutolo all’affermazione dei boss Francesco Schiavone detto“Sandokan” e Francesco Bidognetti soprannominato “Cicciotto ‘e mezzanotte”.
Carlo Lucarelli, grazie anche alla testimonianza di eccezione di Roberto Saviano, ci racconta il Clan dei Casalesi, una delle organizzazioni criminali più pericolose e più “imprenditoriali” del mondo.
Una camorra sanguinaria che oltre a distruggere l’ambiente e saccheggiare le risorse economiche di una delle provincie più belle della regione Campania, è stata capace di riciclare con furbizia e scaltrezza i proventi delle sue molteplici attività fino a costruire un vero e proprio impero finanziario internazionale.
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Carlo Lucarelli, grazie anche alla testimonianza di eccezione di Roberto Saviano, ci racconta il Clan dei Casalesi, una delle organizzazioni criminali più pericolose e più “imprenditoriali” del mondo.
Una camorra sanguinaria che oltre a distruggere l’ambiente e saccheggiare le risorse economiche di una delle provincie più belle della regione Campania, è stata capace di riciclare con furbizia e scaltrezza i proventi delle sue molteplici attività fino a costruire un vero e proprio impero finanziario internazionale.
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00:00:00Christmas decoration is annoying.
00:00:01Some time ago I had the opportunity to read in the newspaper a statement from a Camorra suspect
00:00:07which he claimed they had planned during the period in which I was a syntocrist in Casal di Principe in 1994
00:00:13the Camorra had planned my physical elimination.
00:00:17It was supposed to be an accident so they were looking for an Albanian who had to pretend to be drunk.
00:00:24taking advantage of the fact that I was used to riding my bike, he ran me over with his car.
00:00:28Then the pendito always says that it was complicated and difficult to find the right subject
00:00:33for which they then resurrected to remove me from the mayoralty with a political maneuver
00:00:39causing three municipal councilors of my majority to resign at the same time as those of the opposition
00:00:45and in fact this thing that happened then in November 1994
00:00:48when I found myself without a majority in the municipal council and therefore had to resign.
00:00:53Ruthless ferocity, military capabilities, capillary control of the territory, control of politics,
00:01:00a river of money created with great entrepreneurial ability.
00:01:03But there is another element, as we have seen, which is of fundamental importance in the history of the Casalesi.
00:01:09The silence.
00:01:10The Casalesi are to the history of the Camorra what the Corleonesi are to the history of the Mafia.
00:01:15They have the same importance, except that the Corleonesi are famous, everything is known, and many books have been written about them.
00:01:22The Casalesi have become known and come to prominence only in recent years.
00:01:27For example, the State has known about the Casalesi mafia for a long time.
00:01:31The parliamentary anti-mafia commission arrived in Casal di Principe for the first time in 1990,
00:01:36after the police broke up a Casalesi summit at the home of Deputy Mayor Corvino.
00:01:42And then there are the various investigations and trials that have taken place over the years,
00:01:47especially the Spartacus trial.
00:01:49The incredible thing about Spartacus was, first of all, the name, for the first time the name of a rebel is given
00:01:55to a trial.
00:01:56It's quite strange.
00:01:58The rebel was Spartacus himself who from those lands of Agro Caleno, that is Capua, revolted and reached the gates
00:02:07of Rome.
00:02:09Spartacus, why? Because in that land, right is the true rebellion, the true revolt.
00:02:16And so it was necessary to give a name to those who fought the empire.
00:02:22And the magistrates give this name.
00:02:24Spartacus is on trial because he was supposed to fight the Casalesi clan's empire.
00:02:29It starts with a repentant.
00:02:30How the Palermo maxi-trial against Cosa Nostra began essentially with the statements of Tommaso Buscetta.
00:02:37The Buscetta of the Casalesi family is called Carmine Schiavone, known as Carminuccio, and is Sandocan's cousin.
00:02:48But Carminuccio is above all an entrepreneur, someone who knows how to handle business and public relations, specialized
00:02:54in the concrete sector.
00:02:59They arrested him in 1991 and gave him seven years in prison for some weapons found inside one of his offices.
00:03:06business.
00:03:10Carminuccio can't stand it and starts talking to the deputy prosecutors Lucio Di Pietro and Federico Caffiero De Rao,
00:03:16of the Naples District Anti-Mafia Directorate, because in the land of the Casalesi there is still no DDA.
00:03:27It's also happening in the rest of the countryside, with Raffaele Cutolo's new organized Camorra or with the new family.
00:03:37Bosses of the calibre of Carmine Alfieri or Pasquale Galasso have started to talk,
00:03:42and with them a river of repentants in flood.
00:03:50It also happens with the Casalesi, who are few, very few, but they are there nonetheless.
00:03:55Like Dario De Simone, whose brother-in-law and brother were killed by the Casalesi in retaliation.
00:04:00Or like Domenico Bidognetti, known as Mimì or Bruttaccione, the nephew of Cicciotto and Mezzanotte.
00:04:06How many people did she kill?
00:04:10I don't know, fifty, sixty.
00:04:12Of those I killed, those I had killed.
00:04:14They killed my father because I can, I'm revealing many things that were not known.
00:04:23I don't even know what it's for, I forgive, I give it to her.
00:04:26I threw in the towel, you too have gone over to the side of the State, to the side of legality.
00:04:36Being a collaborator takes immense courage, whereas being a mafioso doesn't take courage.
00:04:41A pool is created which also includes the deputy prosecutors Carlo Visconti and Francesco Greco,
00:04:47and then Francesco Curcio, Raffaello Falcone and Raffaele Cantone.
00:04:53On December 5, 1995, 3,000 men of the police force raided the Casalesi territory,
00:05:00with a list of about a hundred people to be arrested.
00:05:06They find only 50 of them, some of whom tell them they were waiting for them.
00:05:11Among the 68 fugitives who have not been found is Francesco Schiavone, known as Sandokan.
00:05:22Francesco Schiavone was arrested three years later, in 1998.
00:05:33He was standing still in a secret hiding place, in his villa on Via Salerno, in Casal di Principe,
00:05:38behind a granite wall moving on a track, together with his wife, his cousin and his two daughters.
00:05:49The men from the Capture section kept an eye on the area.
00:05:53They also pretended to be sewer workers and even paid protection money to appear more credible.
00:06:05So they targeted that villa, but when they broke in they found no one.
00:06:13Then a Carabinieri officer notices some strange air vents.
00:06:22He fires tear gas into us and here comes Sandokan's voice.
00:06:25Don't shoot, my daughters are here.
00:06:27And he gives up.
00:06:40So there he is too, when after more than ten years from the beginning of the investigations,
00:06:44After 626 hearings involving 125 defendants and hundreds of witnesses, the verdict has arrived.
00:06:51Think that we have marked more than 500 witnesses with examination and cross-examination by the prosecutor and the
00:07:00defense attorneys.
00:07:01We have registered more than 20 collaborators of justice.
00:07:05We have acquired more than 100 folders of documents relating to telephone interceptions,
00:07:12to sentences from other trials, starting with the old trials of the Cutoli Camorra,
00:07:16on which the parties had to negotiate.
00:07:19The debate to limit ourselves to this phase took place in early 1998,
00:07:25it has had a development of approximately 700 hearings
00:07:30and it ended in September 2005.
00:07:34On September 15, 2005, after an 11-day Council Chamber,
00:07:40The President of the Assize Court of Santa Maria Capo a Vetere reads the sentence.
00:07:4795 convictions for Camorra association, with 21 life sentences, 844 years in prison
00:07:53and over 413 million euros seized.
00:07:59The entire history of the mafia in the province of Caserta,
00:08:02in the 3200 pages of the reasons for the sentence written by Judge Raffaello Maggi,
00:08:07plus all the other investigations and all the other trials that take place over the years,
00:08:12like Spartacus II, on the relationships between the Casalesi, politics and finance.
00:08:18The Spartacus trial for its importance, for the involvement of repentants,
00:08:24by persons charged, by number of hearings, by number of witnesses,
00:08:29according to the defense's arguments, it is superior to the maxi trial in Palermo,
00:08:34in number also of, not only accused, but convicted.
00:08:39What should be one of the trials of the century passes under deafening silence.
00:08:44Few and very short articles on the national pages.
00:08:4750 lines in the newspaper Il Mattino di Napoli, written by Rosaria Capacchione,
00:08:52and the rest in the local pages, which are read by local readers
00:08:57and they never get much further.
00:09:03For the rest of Italy, the Casalesi mafia is just a kind of Camorra,
00:09:08who only gets noticed when he shoots and kills in the streets,
00:09:11as after the death of Antonio Bardellino,
00:09:13or when a fugitive known as Sandokan is arrested.
00:09:17Then everything goes back into oblivion.
00:09:19This always happens when talking about the mafia in Italy.
00:09:23It is confused with a criminal event, a normal crime news event,
00:09:27and then at that point other crimes are preferred,
00:09:30other murders, more mysterious and more yellow.
00:09:33As if one wanted to put a stone on a way of behaving
00:09:37which has heavily mortgaged southern Italy,
00:09:40not just the province of Caserta, and don't let anyone talk about it.
00:09:45Because after all, if we have a strong, organised crime,
00:09:50but it doesn't kill you, you can even live with it.
00:09:55I don't think so, of course.
00:09:57I believe that, and as the asset investigations have demonstrated above all,
00:10:01done over all these years, that this type of crime,
00:10:04especially when one shoots and therefore it is more insidious,
00:10:07because it is underground, it ends up taking away all hope for the future
00:10:12to the kids who live in these areas,
00:10:15because it takes away jobs, it takes away job prospects,
00:10:19contaminates the market.
00:10:20In silence is golden, as Gigi Di Fiore writes in a beautiful book
00:10:24which is called The Empire and which tells the story of the Casalesi.
00:10:27In silence is golden.
00:10:29And journalists, even good ones, informed and punctual, like Rosaria Cappacchione,
00:10:33or like Sergio Nazaro, who writes mainly on blogs and online magazines,
00:10:37they hadn't managed to scratch it yet.
00:10:49Then something happens, a writer arrives and a book arrives.
00:10:53My story before Gomorrah is a fairly common one.
00:10:59I work in philosophy quite early and decide to write
00:11:03to become a writer, actually.
00:11:06My dream was to become a writer, not a journalist, not a reporter.
00:11:09And so it happens to me, in short, like everyone else, to start writing,
00:11:16and spread stories.
00:11:17Once I happened to write to Guffredo Fofi.
00:11:20I sent a story, Guffredo Fofi replied to me
00:11:22«Well, for your age you write well, but you write about idleness».
00:11:25So he said.
00:11:26“I saw your address, why don’t you look around you?”
00:11:30And so I started writing about the Camorra and what I was watching,
00:11:34what I saw.
00:11:36I decide to do it with a tool other than the news.
00:11:39That is, I collect the news that the news has and elaborate it on a narrative level.
00:11:44In the sense that I tried to make them as accessible as possible.
00:11:47and I wanted them to be stories that were somehow universal, emblematic,
00:11:52that did not have the smell or odor of local history
00:11:54that nobody cared about on the national level.
00:11:58The book is called Gomorrah and was released in 2006.
00:12:01The print run of 4,500 copies, which is what a publishing house usually does
00:12:07when he wants to try with an author he thinks is promising,
00:12:10it sells out in a week.
00:12:12«The publisher is surprised, he reprints, I am surprised myself,
00:12:18Word of mouth led to a series of positive reviews in all the most important Italian newspapers.
00:12:23I'm invited on television, something changes immediately.
00:12:32Two days after my first television appearance, the book hits the bestseller lists.
00:12:39From then on he will never leave again.
00:12:41And it happens that I get invited everywhere.
00:12:50The theme slowly begins to emerge.
00:12:54Yes, it's clear, many books, often true masterpieces,
00:12:57essays have been written about the Camorra.
00:13:00And it's also an interesting narrative book, to which I owe a lot,
00:13:04which is "The Camorrista" by Gio Marrazzo.
00:13:08A beautiful book by Nanni Balestrini, Sandokan, had also been written.
00:13:13However, these books had never reached the general public,
00:13:16and above all they had always been like little cults for insiders.
00:13:22I'm not telling Casal di Principo, Scampia, to the world,
00:13:27but the ambition was to tell the world through Casal di Principo and Scampia.
00:13:31Create a method that allows us to understand how the criminal economy
00:13:35had become the winning economy.
00:13:39This is very intriguing.
00:13:41Huge word of mouth, possibility of understanding certain things.
00:13:47Gomorrah also talks about the Casalesi, but it does so as a writer's book does,
00:13:51because Saviano is a careful observer of reality.
00:13:54The names, numbers, and data he writes about are true.
00:13:57But his way of telling is that of a narrator,
00:13:59who knows how to do it because the words, the images and the facts
00:14:03they evoke emotions, which is what a writer does.
00:14:06Nothing more.
00:14:07When I get to 100,000 copies,
00:14:11I feel that my perception of the territory is changing.
00:14:16This exponential growth in readers,
00:14:21of information on the internet, of international attention,
00:14:28I didn't realize that it would change my life.
00:14:30The book becomes a symbol.
00:14:32That's why it becomes a sort of meta-book.
00:14:36Something special also happens.
00:14:39Some bars display it on the till,
00:14:41as if it were a kind of sign, a coupon.
00:14:44That is to say, we are not like our neighbors,
00:14:47that is, Camorra bars.
00:14:48It was enough to display that book.
00:14:50So the book becomes a symbol
00:14:52and the stories told become
00:14:57stories that belong to a territory,
00:14:59but which in reality no one has ever stopped to think about
00:15:01to know them thoroughly, to read them.
00:15:04Then something else happens.
00:15:07It happens that at the end of September 2006
00:15:09There is an anti-mafia demonstration in Casal di Principe.
00:15:12There is a large stage in the Market Square,
00:15:14which is the main square of the town,
00:15:16and there are many authorities.
00:15:18There is the President of the Chamber, Fausto Bertinotti,
00:15:21there is the vice president of the anti-mafia commission, Beppe Lumia,
00:15:24there are local politicians,
00:15:25there are representatives of the anti-mafia association, such as Libera,
00:15:28and there's also him, Roberto Saviano, the writer of Gomorrah.
00:15:40It's his turn to speak.
00:15:42Roberto Saviano sees all those people,
00:15:44he sees all those kids looking at him.
00:15:46He's from there, he knows what life is like in Casal di Principe.
00:15:49And then what happens to writers happens to him,
00:15:52when they feel something inside
00:15:53who cannot help but say, to tell.
00:15:56And so he speaks.
00:15:57So at a certain point I say,
00:16:00I'll give you the jaggery, you're worthless,
00:16:03go away,
00:16:05this land does not belong to you.
00:16:08I remember that something changes there,
00:16:09because the escort present in the House,
00:16:12when I get up, I'm about to leave alone,
00:16:15with my feet, taking the train,
00:16:19he says, the boy without an escort, without our escort,
00:16:23he's not leaving here.
00:16:24And so I'm accompanying myself from Naples.
00:16:26I leave from Naples and go to Pordenone,
00:16:28at a literary festival.
00:16:30And in those days something happens.
00:16:32So, returning from Pordenone,
00:16:34I will never be a free man again.
00:16:37It had never happened before in Italy
00:16:39that a writer should be protected by an escort.
00:16:42It happened abroad.
00:16:43It happened to Salman Rushdie, for example,
00:16:46sentenced to death by Aiatola Comeini
00:16:48for his satanic verses.
00:16:49It happens in countries dominated by dictatorship,
00:16:53but then again that's part of Italy,
00:16:54dominated by the armed dictatorship of organized crime.
00:17:00While Saviano speaks in Casal di Principe,
00:17:02there's a cousin of Sandokan who goes around
00:17:04to note those who applaud.
00:17:06I end up under escort, as I was saying,
00:17:10October 13, Friday, October 10, 2006.
00:17:18Complicated things happen.
00:17:21Anyone who ends up under escort has a marked life,
00:17:25but a magistrate, for example of the anti-mafia,
00:17:28he knows that at the time it was assigned
00:17:31the DDA, the District Anti-Mafia Directorate,
00:17:33He will have 7 years of a complicated life.
00:17:36After 7 years you can decide to go back to doing another type of work
00:17:40in the judiciary or will go to the National Anti-Mafia Directorate.
00:17:43In short, he has time to understand what is happening to him.
00:17:52The day before I was in Pordenone.
00:17:53they called me while I was on the train and told me
00:17:57Roberto, the prefect said you must have an escort.
00:18:01And I laugh, if you have an escort, now I've become a politician.
00:18:06And on the other side this friend of mine,
00:18:08who is a rabbi in Ciro, makes a serious voice saying
00:18:12no, no, but you must have an escort.
00:18:14There are three of us, he says yes, a patrol will come and pick you up at the station,
00:18:17takes you to the top.
00:18:20and I didn't know how to notify my family,
00:18:23it was the most complicated worry, let's say.
00:18:25In fact I called a policeman who brought me something to eat.
00:18:30There were some policemen who saw me very tense.
00:18:32and they were delightful in trying to comfort me.
00:18:35They told me, you're not scared,
00:18:37You can imagine if you're afraid of something like that.
00:18:41Who are these four thugs, right?
00:18:44There was, I remember, a colonel
00:18:46who entered this room where I had been placed
00:18:47and he said don't worry, he closed
00:18:49and at the rate of almost every quarter of an hour
00:18:51he came, he greeted me, he said don't worry,
00:18:53Everything is fine.
00:18:55I didn't really know what was happening.
00:19:01I only know that I came back after a few days,
00:19:04at my mother's house
00:19:09it happened that in the meantime, after Roberto had spoken
00:19:13in Casal di Principe, there had been a report from a collaborator
00:19:16of justice who had heard some speeches in prison.
00:19:20Some people, bad people, had wondered whether Saviano was protected or not,
00:19:25evaluating whether or not to kill him.
00:19:27And at that point the magistrates who deal with certain things
00:19:30they had evaluated for their part whether it was really the case to protect him,
00:19:34Roberto Saviano.
00:19:40There had already been other signals, even before,
00:19:43and also the way the local press reports the news,
00:19:46certain details, certain particulars,
00:19:48it had seemed like a bad sign.
00:19:50From then on everything changes,
00:19:52they take me to Rome, they take me to houses
00:19:55which are generally houses given to witnesses of justice or to repentants.
00:20:07What I remember about these houses,
00:20:09where I often live now, by the way,
00:20:12it's that inside the walls really
00:20:14they preserve the suffering of the people who are there,
00:20:17never going out.
00:20:19Houses where you find the waterbed,
00:20:22an incredible stereo system,
00:20:24televisions, flat screen,
00:20:28because they are houses where you have to try to bring the cloister to life,
00:20:37and so everyone tries with money,
00:20:39many or few who have,
00:20:41to improve those 50 square meters.
00:20:44Then I also go to houses chosen by me,
00:20:46authorized by the Carabinieri,
00:20:52and for three years you begin to wander,
00:20:58because unfortunately, instead of improving the situation, it gets worse.
00:21:02The second thing that happens
00:21:04it's that an anonymous letter arrives
00:21:06to the editorial staff of L'Espresso,
00:21:07which the Carabinieri verify,
00:21:09considering it reliable
00:21:10and making it the subject of a report.
00:21:13In this anonymous letter
00:21:15someone talks about a meeting held in a gambling den,
00:21:17where they meet regularly
00:21:19the representatives of the Casalese families,
00:21:21when they have to discuss something.
00:21:24Among the topics under discussion
00:21:26there is a plan to kill two people,
00:21:28Deputy Prosecutor Raffaele Cantone
00:21:30and the writer Roberto Saviano.
00:21:32The leaders vote no,
00:21:34no murders,
00:21:35otherwise who knows what happens,
00:21:36the tanks arrive in Casal di Principe,
00:21:38Let's make Saviano a saint,
00:21:40no murders,
00:21:41at least for now.
00:21:46But there are some who vote yes,
00:21:48according to the letter.
00:21:49And according to the anonymous
00:21:50they would be Nicola Schiavone,
00:21:52Sandokan's son,
00:21:53and Alessandro Cirillo,
00:21:54said sergeant.
00:21:55Big shots,
00:21:57people who matter.
00:21:58And for this,
00:21:59the magistrates say,
00:22:00the anonymous person would have written the letter.
00:22:02Because he's afraid
00:22:04that given the caliber of the voters
00:22:05the decision is overturned
00:22:07and they still commit the murders.
00:22:09And since he should be the killer
00:22:11and he has no desire to do them
00:22:12and end up in prison for life,
00:22:14and not being able to refuse,
00:22:15writes the letter
00:22:16to skip the operation.
00:22:17This anonymous person is very disturbing.
00:22:23who defends me,
00:22:25who, in short,
00:22:26the carabinieri who manage
00:22:27my safety
00:22:27and so my supply increases.
00:22:30I get an armored car
00:22:32and three people.
00:22:33It's March 13, 2008
00:22:35and it's holding
00:22:36an appeal hearing
00:22:37at the Spartacus trial.
00:22:38Lawyer Michele Santo Nastaso
00:22:41he is the defender
00:22:42of two Casalesi,
00:22:43Francesco Bidognetti,
00:22:44who is in prison,
00:22:45and Antonio Iovine,
00:22:46who is instead a fugitive.
00:22:49Lawyer Santo Nastaso
00:22:51reads a letter
00:22:52signed by both of them
00:22:53his clients.
00:22:54A letter
00:22:55of more than 60 pages,
00:22:56in which,
00:22:57in addition to the appeal
00:22:58to the Cirami law
00:22:59and other judicial requests,
00:23:00there is a specific indictment
00:23:02towards some people.
00:23:04If they are convicted,
00:23:05they write,
00:23:06the fault will be
00:23:07of the deputy prosecutor
00:23:09Raffaele Cantone,
00:23:10of the deputy prosecutor
00:23:11Federico Caffiero De Rao,
00:23:13of the pseudo-writer,
00:23:14so they write,
00:23:15with hatred and contempt,
00:23:16Roberto Saviano,
00:23:17and the morning reporter
00:23:19Rosaria Capacchione.
00:23:20This document,
00:23:22read in an abnormal way,
00:23:23why don't they read,
00:23:24those documents in general
00:23:25they settle
00:23:26in the reclusive rooms,
00:23:28is read
00:23:29from the anti-mafia prosecutor's office
00:23:31as a threat
00:23:32explicit
00:23:34to the persons named.
00:23:36as if they had been indicated
00:23:37these people
00:23:38outside
00:23:41why they were taken
00:23:42of the measures.
00:23:44This is how it is read
00:23:45after a few days,
00:23:46it was the middle of March,
00:23:49a few days before Easter,
00:23:52I have the escort
00:23:53for the first time
00:23:55and since then
00:23:56life has changed a bit.
00:23:58Change your life.
00:23:59Roberto Saviano knows it
00:24:01and Rosaria Capacchione knows it
00:24:02who is a journalist
00:24:03and he should go around
00:24:05unobserved,
00:24:06listen,
00:24:07talk to people
00:24:07who perhaps doesn't want to be noticed.
00:24:09And how do you do it?
00:24:10with two carabinieri
00:24:11or two policemen
00:24:12always behind?
00:24:14No,
00:24:14life changes
00:24:15when you are under escort
00:24:16and maybe
00:24:17you hadn't even taken that into account
00:24:18in your profession.
00:24:19That day
00:24:20when it was communicated to me
00:24:22that I should have had the escort
00:24:24I was on the street
00:24:25I was going to work
00:24:27to the newspaper
00:24:29standing
00:24:30I was informed
00:24:32that there was a car
00:24:34that was waiting for me
00:24:35where I had to report
00:24:36where I was
00:24:37at that moment
00:24:37I cheated a little
00:24:39you took me
00:24:40an hour of time
00:24:41to take a walk
00:24:43the last one alone
00:24:44basically.
00:24:46Then I had
00:24:47since that day
00:24:48I said a few days
00:24:49before Easter
00:24:50always two men
00:24:51with me
00:24:53that accompany me
00:24:55everywhere.
00:24:56For a long time
00:24:57now again
00:24:57it happens to me
00:24:58to dream
00:24:59to escape
00:25:00to use
00:25:01a secondary gate
00:25:03of my park
00:25:05to go away
00:25:07because it is not
00:25:08so much the presence
00:25:09but the idea
00:25:10of the presence
00:25:11and the idea
00:25:12of the lack
00:25:12of freedom
00:25:13in deciding
00:25:14suddenly
00:25:15to do something.
00:25:17If I this morning
00:25:18she wanted to go out
00:25:19at seven o'clock
00:25:20I couldn't have done it
00:25:22that is, I could have
00:25:22call
00:25:23warn
00:25:24make me come
00:25:24to take
00:25:26things suddenly
00:25:27they can't be done anymore.
00:25:29Stock at the highest level
00:25:30for the two magistrates
00:25:31escort for Rosaria
00:25:32Capacchione
00:25:33and reinforced escort
00:25:34for Roberto Saviano
00:25:36that in the meantime
00:25:37he had another signal
00:25:38of the danger
00:25:39of his situation.
00:25:40I'm glad to hear it
00:25:41that the lawyers
00:25:42of these gentlemen
00:25:44come to me
00:25:45systematically
00:25:46to find
00:25:46every time
00:25:47what do I do
00:25:47public meetings
00:25:48your clients
00:25:49but make them come to me
00:25:51directly
00:25:52Meaning what
00:25:53you know so much
00:25:54Very well
00:25:55of this.
00:25:55He arrives
00:25:55from the management
00:25:56investigative
00:25:57anti-mafia
00:25:58of Milan
00:25:58who had
00:25:59information
00:25:59about the project
00:26:00to kill
00:26:01Roberto Saviano
00:26:01by Christmas
00:26:02we do it to him
00:26:03this panettone
00:26:04someone would have said
00:26:05is asked
00:26:06he confirms
00:26:07to a collaborator
00:26:07of justice
00:26:08Carmine Schiavone
00:26:09who denies
00:26:10to know nothing
00:26:11of the project
00:26:11of Christmas
00:26:12but that
00:26:13he confirms
00:26:14which in fact
00:26:15a death sentence
00:26:15by Roberto Saviano
00:26:16there is.
00:26:17At half-yearly intervals
00:26:19the Casalesi
00:26:20or that world
00:26:22he made it known
00:26:23who was a convict
00:26:24to death
00:26:24even the writings
00:26:25they are very important
00:26:26is drawn
00:26:27a coffin
00:26:29in the morning
00:26:30he has these photos
00:26:31on the house
00:26:32by Carmine Schiavone
00:26:33it's no coincidence
00:26:34house never uninhabited
00:26:35for a decade
00:26:38this bar appears
00:26:40with written on it
00:26:40my name
00:26:42then the usual writings
00:26:44Saviano
00:26:44shit
00:26:45Saviano
00:26:46toxic
00:26:49why they are important
00:26:50those written
00:26:50why in Casal di Principe
00:26:51never
00:26:53but there were written
00:26:54on the walls
00:26:56some writing
00:26:57sporty
00:26:58but it's a country
00:26:59which has always
00:27:00kept a costume
00:27:00in this sense
00:27:01a very rich country
00:27:02a country
00:27:04strict
00:27:04a country where it is forbidden
00:27:05even taking drugs
00:27:08for a period
00:27:09they gave the authorization
00:27:10to smoke joints
00:27:10near the cemetery
00:27:12but the penalty is total
00:27:13it's also something else
00:27:16it always happens
00:27:17in bad faith
00:27:18or even in good faith
00:27:19or simply
00:27:19due to lack of information
00:27:21it's the barrage of doubts
00:27:23that invests
00:27:24inevitably
00:27:24anyone who has to deal with it
00:27:25with certain things
00:27:26even if it's on the other side
00:27:28on the side of the State
00:27:29of the law
00:27:30and of the people
00:27:31it also happens
00:27:32to Roberto Saviano
00:27:33one wonders
00:27:34if his story
00:27:35let it not be only
00:27:35a frame
00:27:36if he really runs
00:27:37of the risks
00:27:38or one is
00:27:38just playing
00:27:40to play the hero
00:27:40next time
00:27:41it was done
00:27:42facts about
00:27:43eh
00:27:44what way should they do it?
00:27:45he says they have to kill him
00:27:47they are facts about
00:27:48and if he kept quiet
00:27:49he felt more confident
00:27:50and I'm not stupid
00:27:51if they were not talking
00:27:52all this
00:27:53in Casale
00:27:54it didn't happen
00:27:54the only thing
00:27:55that we know
00:27:56is that now
00:27:56no one is at ease
00:27:58because first
00:27:59the Camorra
00:27:59it made people feel at ease
00:28:00Yes
00:28:02we were all calm
00:28:03but it polluted
00:28:04the territory
00:28:05they sell drugs
00:28:06but it's not true
00:28:07it's not true at all
00:28:08in Casale
00:28:09it's in the noise
00:28:10what's her name?
00:28:10I
00:28:11my name is Nicola Stiavone
00:28:13but related to Schiavone
00:28:14No
00:28:14they are busy
00:28:15all yours
00:28:16that are there
00:28:17for rent
00:28:17who are men
00:28:18father of Schiavone
00:28:19Meaning what
00:28:20the nicknamed
00:28:22Sandoga
00:28:22No
00:28:23his name is Francesco
00:28:24Stiavone
00:28:24but this Camorra
00:28:25in Casale
00:28:26does it exist or not?
00:28:27the Camorristi are insti
00:28:28the Camorristi are them
00:28:29I wanted to hear
00:28:30to those who are interested in Roberto Saviani
00:28:32why Roberto Saviani
00:28:33it's a sieve
00:28:34in conclusion
00:28:34he is not a magistrate
00:28:35or an investigator
00:28:36and he's not even a politician
00:28:38he's just a writer
00:28:39it won't be an invention
00:28:40of the publishing house
00:28:41a publicity stunt
00:28:43to sell more copies
00:28:44because of copies
00:28:46Saviano's books
00:28:46he sold several of them
00:28:47we are already at two million
00:28:49how much I earned
00:28:50it's much less
00:28:52how much can I earn
00:28:53any area leader
00:28:54of the Casalesi clan
00:28:56but nobody
00:28:57of the territory
00:28:57where I come from
00:28:58has ever
00:28:59dared
00:29:00to beckon
00:29:01to the earnings
00:29:02of criminal organizations
00:29:04earnings made often
00:29:05with toxic waste
00:29:06so you earn
00:29:07which have increased
00:29:08dizzyingly
00:29:09the number of deaths
00:29:11for cancer
00:29:11and deformed fetuses
00:29:12as he says
00:29:13the magazine
00:29:14the major magazine
00:29:15of oncology
00:29:16of Anstot Oncology
00:29:17never anyone
00:29:18he did
00:29:19a demonstration
00:29:21a statement
00:29:22I'm talking about my fellow countrymen
00:29:23not of the insiders
00:29:24against this type
00:29:25of characters
00:29:26who have become rich
00:29:27on traffic
00:29:27of toxic waste
00:29:28they did it
00:29:29on my behalf
00:29:30for example
00:29:31there is an actor from Lodi
00:29:32what is called
00:29:32Giulio Cavalli
00:29:37he brought to the theater
00:29:38some shows
00:29:39against the mafia
00:29:39he named names and surnames
00:29:41and now him too
00:29:42like Roberto Saviano
00:29:43he is under escort
00:29:43and of him too
00:29:45they say the same thing
00:29:45he's exaggerating
00:29:46play at being a hero
00:29:51be careful though
00:29:52because we are not talking here
00:29:53of poses
00:29:54and attitudes
00:29:55we are talking
00:29:56of a state service
00:29:57the escort
00:29:58which must be approved
00:29:59from the ministry
00:30:00and that is not given
00:30:01Like this
00:30:01not at all
00:30:02especially to the actors
00:30:03and especially to writers
00:30:05defamation
00:30:07she is a life companion
00:30:09daily
00:30:10for those who tell these things
00:30:12the fact of being alive
00:30:14it's often a fault
00:30:17Why
00:30:18you can't
00:30:20receive
00:30:21how to say
00:30:25the deadly attack
00:30:27of an organization
00:30:29and save you
00:30:30and no
00:30:31you have to die
00:30:32Really
00:30:33this is the unsaid
00:30:34of those who live
00:30:35our condition
00:30:36Often
00:30:36what bothers
00:30:39towards those who expose themselves
00:30:43is that
00:30:46who exposes himself
00:30:47demonstrates
00:30:48that you can be different
00:30:50that can be written
00:30:51without compromise
00:30:52that can be lived
00:30:54without
00:30:55always having to mediate
00:30:57on important things
00:30:59and this thing
00:31:00puts in difficulty
00:31:01because it's like
00:31:02made you feel dirty
00:31:03all the others
00:31:05obviously it's not like that
00:31:06but
00:31:07it's like a person
00:31:09acknowledging something
00:31:10he felt
00:31:11that he was silent
00:31:12felt some guilt
00:31:13some guilt
00:31:14which resides in itself
00:31:15he was too quiet
00:31:18lowered his head too much
00:31:21in these territories
00:31:23it happened to me often
00:31:24in my territories
00:31:25to see
00:31:26witnesses of justice
00:31:27isolated
00:31:29isolated
00:31:30but
00:31:30not because
00:31:31people had respect
00:31:33of people
00:31:34That
00:31:34these witnesses
00:31:35they had him arrested
00:31:36but why
00:31:37just the fact
00:31:37of having reported
00:31:38for them
00:31:40he demonstrated
00:31:41a sense of diversity
00:31:43but do you really believe
00:31:44that can change things
00:31:45but do you really believe
00:31:47that this commitment
00:31:48may be useful
00:31:49it's like you
00:31:50acting in this way
00:31:51I put you in crisis
00:31:52the whole community
00:31:54who did not act
00:31:56as if it were putting into crisis
00:31:58their daily life
00:32:00the fact that
00:32:01their saying to each other
00:32:02but it's always been like this
00:32:05but everything has to go like this
00:32:06At that time
00:32:08when you do it
00:32:09the first thought is
00:32:10you did it for your own interest
00:32:12you did it to earn money
00:32:15when they make these accusations against me
00:32:17what I answer is
00:32:18I did it for my own interest
00:32:20because my interest
00:32:21is that we live better
00:32:21I did it for happiness
00:32:23Yes
00:32:23I did it out of ambition
00:32:24Certain
00:32:25because as a writer
00:32:27I dream and I believe
00:32:28that my words
00:32:28can change things
00:32:30you did it to feel better
00:32:31absolutely yes
00:32:32you did it to finish
00:32:33on the front pages of newspapers
00:32:35absolutely yes
00:32:35because I believe that visibility
00:32:37may he transform my land
00:32:38you did it out of a personal grudge
00:32:41absolutely yes
00:32:42personal resentment
00:32:44I have it because
00:32:46these organizations
00:32:47they made live
00:32:48bad for me
00:32:50and my fellow citizens
00:32:51my daily life
00:32:54it was and is made worse by them
00:32:56Therefore
00:32:57must
00:32:59have it
00:33:00personally
00:33:01with these characters
00:33:04They
00:33:06they compromised
00:33:07for example
00:33:08the places
00:33:09Castelvolturno beach
00:33:11the organizations
00:33:12the way of doing
00:33:13of the entrepreneur
00:33:14of that territory
00:33:15he poisoned
00:33:15destroyed
00:33:16forever
00:33:17irremediably
00:33:18that beauty
00:33:19which still today
00:33:20it is possible to glimpse
00:33:21I have it in for them
00:33:22because of this
00:33:23you wrote it
00:33:25so they tell me
00:33:26Why
00:33:28you want to give it back to him
00:33:29everything they did
00:33:30absolutely yes
00:33:31you wrote
00:33:32so that no trace remains
00:33:33of all their venom
00:33:34and don't get lost
00:33:37to get lost
00:33:38of the time
00:33:40of a daily newspaper
00:33:40of a news item
00:33:41exactly yes
00:33:42I want to give him everything back
00:33:43mine is a battle
00:33:45even personal
00:33:46Bertolt Brecht said
00:33:47blessed is that country
00:33:48that has no need of heroes
00:33:50Italy is not that blessed country
00:33:52we need heroes
00:33:53and how?
00:33:54they are mainly used
00:33:55in wartime
00:33:56and the one against
00:33:57organized crime
00:33:58against the Camorra
00:33:59and also against the mafia
00:34:00of the Casalesi
00:34:01it's a war
00:34:02what happens
00:34:04with a book
00:34:05is that
00:34:05millions of people
00:34:07millions of readers
00:34:08thousands
00:34:10of journalists
00:34:11Why
00:34:14Korea
00:34:15Japan
00:34:16Australia
00:34:16South America
00:34:17Uruguay
00:34:18Mexico
00:34:18Canada
00:34:19even Saudi Arabia
00:34:21they started to question themselves
00:34:23about this clan
00:34:23through this book
00:34:25it's not actually the book
00:34:27actually it's not even what it says
00:34:29actually it's that book
00:34:31what I wrote
00:34:33has become
00:34:38topic of many
00:34:39it bounced off everyone's tongues
00:34:41it was in the eyes of many
00:34:46this kind of miracle happened
00:34:48that is, the reader
00:34:50he decided
00:34:51the person who chose
00:34:53to read
00:34:53or to buy
00:34:55or to speak
00:34:57about me
00:34:57or to support
00:34:58In short
00:34:58in every possible way
00:35:00imaginable
00:35:02he moved
00:35:03he imposed
00:35:03that the attention was
00:35:04on that topic
00:35:06This
00:35:07he scared
00:35:08the organization
00:35:08nothing else
00:35:09nothing else
00:35:10if the first sentence
00:35:12of the Spartacus trial
00:35:13practically
00:35:13had not appeared
00:35:14in the press
00:35:15after the spotlight
00:35:17lit by Saviano
00:35:18and on Saviano
00:35:19but it doesn't matter
00:35:20why the spotlight is needed
00:35:21the second sentence
00:35:22the appeal one
00:35:23of June 18, 2008
00:35:25it's full of envoys
00:35:26from all over the world
00:35:36the trial is over
00:35:37at the trial
00:35:38Spartacus appeal
00:35:39it is called
00:35:40to judge
00:35:41years of ferocious crimes
00:35:42of the Camorra
00:35:42tied to the clan
00:35:43of the Casalesi
00:35:44the sentence
00:35:45it is expected
00:35:46within three days
00:35:47meanwhile the godfather
00:35:48Francesco Schiavone
00:35:50he's back to making himself heard
00:35:51his voice
00:35:52since I am not
00:35:53a noose fair
00:35:55for this reason
00:35:57I give up
00:35:58and I'm leaving
00:35:59because I don't want to
00:35:59to be taken back
00:36:00from telecappi
00:36:01the sentence
00:36:02largely confirms
00:36:03the previous one
00:36:04Life imprisonment
00:36:05he has the bosses
00:36:06of the Casalesi
00:36:07in prison
00:36:07like Francesco Schiavone
00:36:09and Francesco Bidognetti
00:36:10and Life Imprisonment
00:36:11he has the bosses
00:36:12of the Casalesi
00:36:12fugitives
00:36:13like Antonio Iovine
00:36:14and Michele Zagaria
00:36:15my thoughts
00:36:16it goes as I wrote
00:36:17a few days ago
00:36:18also to all the fallen
00:36:19that in these years
00:36:20they had
00:36:20very little attention
00:36:22or just
00:36:22a local focus
00:36:23so all in all
00:36:24this sentence
00:36:26must be considered
00:36:27the beginning
00:36:27and not the end
00:36:28of a path
00:36:28of attention
00:36:29and of struggle
00:36:29to the criminal group
00:36:31still missing
00:36:31the Supreme Court ruling
00:36:33but in the meantime
00:36:34it's a battle won
00:36:35both from the point of view
00:36:36judicial
00:36:36that from that
00:36:37of information
00:36:38be careful though
00:36:39it's just a battle
00:36:41the war continues
00:36:42because in the meantime
00:36:44start
00:36:44the spring campaign
00:36:50there is a man
00:36:51whose name is Giuseppe Setola
00:36:52and it's part
00:36:53of Francesco's clan
00:36:54small bins
00:36:54they call it
00:36:55Blinded
00:36:56because he has a problem
00:36:57in one eye
00:36:57in fact that's why
00:36:58that despite
00:36:59a conviction
00:37:00in the first degree
00:37:00to life imprisonment
00:37:01for murder
00:37:02is found
00:37:03under house arrest
00:37:04in Pavia
00:37:08but the problem
00:37:09it doesn't have to be
00:37:09so serious
00:37:10because when he shoots
00:37:11Joseph Setola
00:37:12he sees very well
00:37:13and anyway
00:37:14in April 2008
00:37:15escapes
00:37:16from house arrest
00:37:17in this room
00:37:18he was hiding
00:37:19the fugitive
00:37:19Joseph Setola
00:37:20when he realized
00:37:21of the arrival
00:37:22of the carabinieri
00:37:23he entered
00:37:24in this trapdoor
00:37:25which is connected
00:37:26directly
00:37:27with the tunnels
00:37:28of the sewers
00:37:29and from there
00:37:30the escape
00:37:31as a fugitive
00:37:32Joseph Setola
00:37:33he takes charge
00:37:33of a fire group
00:37:34with a strategy
00:37:35very precise
00:37:36managed to gather
00:37:38to group together
00:37:3830 people
00:37:40very aggressive
00:37:41bloodthirsty
00:37:41who followed him
00:37:42in this whole strategy
00:37:44who had goals
00:37:46precise
00:37:46criminals
00:37:47a
00:37:48eliminate
00:37:49and cut
00:37:50the land
00:37:51underfoot
00:37:51to the repentants
00:37:52then through
00:37:53their family members
00:37:54two
00:37:54to give warnings
00:37:55to entrepreneurs
00:37:56who were reporting
00:37:57and it was then
00:37:58the murder of Nobiello
00:37:59the murder of Granata
00:38:01Three
00:38:02Still
00:38:02to give a warning
00:38:04to everyone
00:38:05the groups
00:38:06of Africans
00:38:08that on the territory
00:38:09they deal drugs
00:38:10of drugs
00:38:11they exploit
00:38:11prostitution
00:38:12which historically
00:38:13they paid
00:38:14the tangent
00:38:15to the Casalesi
00:38:16to do
00:38:16these activities
00:38:17more visible
00:38:18and more dangerous
00:38:20on the territory
00:38:22and increase
00:38:23so the price
00:38:24of the tangent
00:38:24to Africans
00:38:25the first to fall
00:38:26under the blows
00:38:27of men
00:38:28of Bristle
00:38:28May 2nd
00:38:29of 2008
00:38:30It's Umberto Bidognetti
00:38:31Domenico's father
00:38:32the nephew
00:38:33of Cicciotto and Midnight
00:38:34who had repented
00:38:39they kill him
00:38:40in his breeding
00:38:41of buffalo
00:38:42shooting at him
00:38:43more than 12 shots
00:38:44more than Grazia's
00:38:45in the head
00:38:51May 16th
00:38:53of 2008
00:38:53the Casalesi
00:38:54of Bristle
00:38:55they kill
00:38:56Domenico Noviello
00:38:59Domenico Noviello
00:39:00he is a man
00:39:0165 years old
00:39:02a good man
00:39:03that 7 years before
00:39:04he had said no
00:39:05no to tax collectors
00:39:07of Cicciotto and Midnight
00:39:08that they asked him
00:39:09the lace
00:39:09for his driving school
00:39:10of Castel Volturno
00:39:11he had them arrested
00:39:13had remained
00:39:13under escort
00:39:14until 2008
00:39:15and then
00:39:16judged
00:39:16that there was no more danger
00:39:17they had taken it away from him
00:39:19May 16th
00:39:21Mr. Noviello
00:39:22he's in the car
00:39:22and it's going
00:39:23to have a coffee
00:39:24before going
00:39:25to the driving school
00:39:25as he does every morning
00:39:27when he sees
00:39:28some people
00:39:28that are getting closer
00:39:30imagine now
00:39:31what's about to happen
00:39:32and try to get off
00:39:33from the car
00:39:33but he can't do it
00:39:3620 gunshots
00:39:38and the last one
00:39:39the coup de grace
00:39:40to him too
00:39:40to the head
00:39:49June 2, 2008
00:39:51Instead
00:39:51Michele Orsi is killed
00:39:54they shoot him
00:39:55on the first step
00:39:56of the bar
00:39:56where he is entering
00:39:57in Casal di Principe
00:39:59Michael Orsi
00:40:00he was the director
00:40:01of a consortium
00:40:02waste disposal
00:40:03quite controversial
00:40:04he had been involved
00:40:05in an investigation
00:40:06and had started
00:40:07to speak to the magistrates
00:40:09he was giving him a lot of names
00:40:10names of politicians
00:40:11and of Camorristi
00:40:12when they shoot him
00:40:13he's alone
00:40:14without them having
00:40:15never assigned
00:40:15no escort
00:40:19July 11, 2008
00:40:21they kill
00:40:21Raffaele Granata
00:40:22who has a factory
00:40:24seaside
00:40:24in Marina di Varcatura
00:40:29Mr. Raffaele
00:40:30he's at the cash register at the bar
00:40:31when they arrive
00:40:32two boys
00:40:32with a motorbike
00:40:33they keep full-face helmets
00:40:35even when they go down
00:40:36and that's a bad sign
00:40:37they point straight
00:40:38up to the bar
00:40:38and they shoot at him
00:40:39ten shots
00:40:40nine-gauge
00:40:47there are many
00:40:48so many
00:40:49people who
00:40:49Joseph Setola
00:40:50he gets killed
00:40:51in the countryside
00:40:52in spring
00:40:53commits
00:40:54this man
00:40:54eighteen little men
00:40:55in the round
00:40:56five months old
00:40:59between these episodes
00:41:01there is also
00:41:01a massacre
00:41:02in the evening
00:41:04of September 18th
00:41:06after killing
00:41:07a man
00:41:08in Green Bay
00:41:11relative
00:41:11of an affiliate
00:41:12a man
00:41:13that somehow
00:41:14had provided
00:41:15some news
00:41:15to the investigators
00:41:17a figure
00:41:18third
00:41:19fourth floor
00:41:19in the criminal landscape
00:41:21but functional
00:41:22to the interests
00:41:22of the clan
00:41:23on the road
00:41:24of the return
00:41:24towards the refuge
00:41:26they meet
00:41:27some
00:41:27Ghanaians
00:41:28that they were
00:41:30outside
00:41:30of a
00:41:31tailoring
00:41:32ethnic
00:41:34and kills them
00:41:35six
00:41:36forendone
00:41:37another
00:41:37convinced
00:41:38that this other one
00:41:39even if it were
00:41:41he died
00:41:41it's the only one
00:41:42witness
00:41:43of those cities
00:41:44they had us
00:41:45already tried
00:41:46Before
00:41:46in August
00:41:47around 7 pm
00:41:52they had passed
00:41:53with two motorcycles
00:41:54and a van
00:41:54in front of the headquarters
00:41:55of the association
00:41:56Nigerian
00:41:56of the countryside
00:41:57Bristle
00:41:58he had leaned on
00:41:59at the gate
00:41:59of the gate
00:42:00with a Kalashnikov
00:42:01two more
00:42:02they had entered
00:42:02in the courtyard
00:42:03and they had
00:42:04shot
00:42:04with two pistols
00:42:08they hurt
00:42:09six people
00:42:09but all
00:42:10the head
00:42:11and to the chest
00:42:11what does it mean
00:42:12that they have
00:42:12shot
00:42:13to kill
00:42:21September 18th
00:42:23of 2008
00:42:24they try
00:42:24again
00:42:25around 9.30
00:42:26in the evening
00:42:27the car
00:42:27with on board
00:42:28Joseph Setola
00:42:29and his killers
00:42:29it stops
00:42:30in front of a tailor's shop
00:42:31managed
00:42:32from African migrants
00:42:33in Castel Volturno
00:42:39Setola goes down
00:42:40with a gun
00:42:41automatic
00:42:41and it begins
00:42:42to shoot
00:42:42to people
00:42:43that are found
00:42:43outside the premises
00:42:44while two other killers
00:42:46they go down
00:42:47with a machine gun
00:42:48and a Kalashnikov
00:42:48and they unload them
00:42:49inside the tailor's shop
00:43:08they kill
00:43:09six people
00:43:09and they hurt them
00:43:10another one
00:43:11a massacre
00:43:12that in the following days
00:43:13causes protest
00:43:14of the African community
00:43:43that are found
00:43:49After that massacre, Africans took to the streets, stopped an entire city and said
00:43:53Never again, never dare again. The thought that came to me when I saw this revolt
00:44:00it was that Africans did not just come to do jobs that Italians could not
00:44:09They want to do more, but they also came to defend the rights that Italians don't want
00:44:12more defend. The revolt against the clans was the mass revolt of the community
00:44:19African, women, children, never seen. There it was shouted we come here to this land to
00:44:27work and live, don't you dare take away something we've sacrificed everything for. And it's interesting.
00:44:35remember that the only two revolts against the mafia in Italy in the last twenty years
00:44:40Castelvolturo was the site of the African community and Rosarno for a similar episode
00:44:44that the Andrangheta killed a person, an African, and Rosarno in Calabria, there was also
00:44:51the revolt of the African community against the Andrangheta.
00:44:53In addition to the African immigrants who come to work in one way or another there is also
00:44:57crime of course and with that, especially Nigerian crime, the Casalesi
00:45:02They had already agreed, shooting. In 1990 they had killed 5 people and had
00:45:09Seven others were injured when they shot at a bar frequented by Africans in Mondragone.
00:45:24They had outsourced the Nigerian mafia, drug dealing, black prostitution and also
00:45:29the labor market for the exploitation of illegal immigrants in backbreaking work such as
00:45:33the tomato harvest and in exchange they took a large bribe.
00:45:45But on September 18, 2008, Setola and his men had shot into the crowd, hitting people
00:45:50of different nationalities and who had nothing to do with drug dealing or with the
00:45:55crime, so much so that the judiciary attributes to the massacre the aggravating circumstance of
00:45:59Terrorism. Massacres and terrorism: this is Giuseppe Setola's spring campaign.
00:46:05These very serious acts were all carried out with a single aim, that of recovering
00:46:14full control of the territory. It was necessary to regain credibility in the eyes of the population.
00:46:23from the Caserta area and not just from the Caserta area. Some, in fact, had begun to refuse
00:46:30the payment. Someone else had made accusatory statements against them. The Spartacus verdict
00:46:42had been a big blow for the organization because it had sanctioned the life imprisonment of the
00:46:50historical leaders of the organization. All this had determined the resolution of the strategy
00:46:59which, as I said, was a massacre strategy.
00:47:02Giuseppe Setola is not a bloodthirsty killer, nor is he a loose cannon. He is an executioner.
00:47:08which implements a planned and organized strategy. Then, at the beginning of 2009, the
00:47:14Carabinieri locate his hiding place.
00:47:24Giuseppe Setola is not the only Casalesi fugitive to end up in handcuffs in recent times.
00:47:29And it's not just men that end up in the hands of the law, but also money.
00:47:35In July 2009, Francesco Bidognetti's clan and Giuseppe Setola's clan were seized
00:47:41real estate, land, companies, shops, bars and even trucks and tankers for a value
00:47:47total of 50 million euros.
00:47:52It seems that Casalesi are arrested every day and that the clan loses money in the massive seizures
00:47:59every day. But unfortunately, we are still far from victory. First of all, it is enough
00:48:07think that most of the kidnappings are happening against a single clan, which is
00:48:12The Bidognetti clan. So it's a single clan within the corporation that has been dismantled.
00:48:20There are other very powerful families. There are two fugitives, Michele Zagheria and Antonio
00:48:25Iovine. They are the ones who must be stopped, because they are the ones who make a business out of cement,
00:48:30They are the ones who make the investment business.
00:48:32Despite the convictions in the trials, despite the arrests and seizures, the Casalesi, the mafia
00:48:38from the province of Caserta, they are still there and as, indeed, they have never gone away.
00:48:46They control the territory with the same capillarity, with the same blatant display of power.
00:48:51In the local press, for example, letters appear from fugitive bosses or those restricted to 41 bis,
00:48:57like Francesco Schiavone, who send messages to affiliates, clarify internal problems
00:49:01or signal targets to hit.
00:49:07Or, direct phone calls arrive from fugitive bosses, such as Michele Zagheria and Antonio
00:49:12Iovine, who dictate denials and claim to influence articles.
00:49:18Listen, I'm Michele Zagheria.
00:49:21Oh, so listen carefully. I'm calling you because I want to tell you, right?
00:49:28That she is not a serious journalist.
00:49:30Yes, but excuse me for a moment, but who are you Michele Zagheria?
00:49:33Well, you know who writes in the newspaper, right? That he's at war with Antonio Iovine.
00:49:38Excuse me, is this a joke?
00:49:41No, no, no, it's not a joke, it's me personally, this is how I do things, because I am a
00:49:44serious person and she is not.
00:49:46Wait a minute and I'll give you Antonio Iovine too, okay?
00:49:48And so you get rid of this thought of always writing bullshit, bullshit.
00:49:52I think he's a serious professional, right? He doesn't write all this bullshit.
00:49:56Is that clear? I'll pass it on to you now.
00:49:58Ready?
00:49:59I'm Antonio Iovine.
00:50:00Look, we're not joking, we're tired of doing all this cleninism, aren't we?
00:50:05We are families who have respected each other for many years.
00:50:10So, if she has to write the news, she writes serious news and she writes the truth.
00:50:14Can I know something?
00:50:15Yes.
00:50:15Where are you calling from?
00:50:17Us?
00:50:17Huh?
00:50:18From America.
00:50:19Eh, is that you?
00:50:19It's important, this is important.
00:50:21It's essential.
00:50:23Eh, but in what way?
00:50:24Eh, but we need proof that it's you.
00:50:26Listen to me carefully, so tomorrow I will send you my brother with the document and Antonio's brother with the document
00:50:30and you see that all this problem goes together, if it is clarified, is it clear or not?
00:50:34Is that enough for you, we're not threatening, we're not making anything, is that clear?
00:50:37All right?
00:50:38All right.
00:50:38Do you want confirmation that I'm sending you my brother or is that enough?
00:50:41But that's enough for me.
00:50:42But from now on you are free.
00:50:44Because you don't know that I am Dante.
00:50:46The Casalesi are there and how.
00:50:48And they continue to cultivate a close relationship with politics which is more that of a mafia than a
00:50:53Camorra clan.
00:50:54A bipartisan relationship with anyone, as long as they are in power.
00:50:58It is no coincidence that even recently the municipal councils have been dissolved due to infiltrations involving the clan
00:51:05of the Casalesi.
00:51:05It is no coincidence that in recent investigations it has been discovered, for example, how the Zagaria group dealt with
00:51:14to manage the municipal elections of their country.
00:51:18In the wiretaps the clan's followers spoke about the election of my little horse to indicate the subjects who in some way
00:51:29they were sponsored by the clan.
00:51:32National level politicians, such as the undersecretary Nicola Cosentino, end up in the DDA investigations.
00:51:39accused of having been in the hands of Francesco Bidognetti for a long time by collaborators of justice such as Dario De Simone and Gaetano
00:51:46Vassallo, the one of the waste.
00:51:48Be careful, however, as the charges and investigations are still being examined by the judiciary.
00:51:52Undersecretary Cosentino denies having ever had anything to do with organized crime.
00:52:05The Casalesi are there and continue to make money.
00:52:17A lot of money, since only the seizures of goods and liquids, which took place in 2008 by law,
00:52:24amount to 400 million euros.
00:52:26And a company that is able to cope with losses of this size without any problems is certainly a very strong company.
00:52:32rich.
00:52:34So rich that it reached even abroad, as confirmed by the investigations of the deputy prosecutor Raffaele Cantone
00:52:41and other magistrates, who reach as far as Scotland or Germany, where, unlike the Andrangheta,
00:52:47The Casalesi did not kill anyone and therefore are not known.
00:52:51But above all in Eastern Europe, in Poland and Romania, where they bought companies, estates and real estate.
00:52:57In those parts it is also more difficult to intervene from a judicial perspective,
00:53:02because not all of those countries have bilateral treaties that allow extraditions
00:53:07or the very recognition of the crime of criminality, of mafia association.
00:53:12After all, that it was no longer a problem linked to the South and the countryside in particular,
00:53:16It was clear to everyone for a long time.
00:53:22For example, there is the financial mind of the Zagaria clan, Pasquale Zagaria, known as Bin Laden,
00:53:27which, thanks to an entrepreneur from Parma, is able to buy and build from Parma to the centre of Milan.
00:53:35There is Raffaele Diana, known as Rafilotto, Sandokan's man in the province of Modena, recently arrested.
00:53:41His men run premises in Carpi and Castelfranco Emilia,
00:53:45they get their hands on the local contracts and also ask for protection money from the entrepreneurs,
00:53:49even from inside the Modena prison, where they are locked up.
00:53:53In May 2007, Giuseppe Pagano was shot in the legs,
00:53:57an entrepreneur who does not pay and even reports,
00:53:59in its construction site in Riolo, near Castelfranco Emilia.
00:54:07The Casalesi do business in the north, in the rest of Italy and abroad.
00:54:11But we must always remember that they are not entrepreneurs, but criminals.
00:54:15Their easy money pollutes the legal economy, poisoning it like a virus.
00:54:20And the methods always remain the same.
00:54:22Control of the territory, in the land dominated by the armed dictatorship of the Casalesi,
00:54:27It does not mean development, but death.
00:54:34Michele Landa is a metronote from Mondragone,
00:54:37a security guard who is responsible for monitoring a telephone repeater in Pesco Pagano.
00:54:42It's not a good job, the area is a bad area with crime, drug dealing and prostitution.
00:54:48And that repeater had already suffered an attack when it was in Aversa, in 2005.
00:54:53They had killed another security guard, Nicola San Manco.
00:54:56Michele Landa is standing there, in front of the repeater, in his car, alone, and he's scared.
00:55:02But he only has two months left until retirement.
00:55:04And then he will be able to return to the countryside, to the piece of land,
00:55:07who works every day to supplement his income.
00:55:10It was September 6, 2006, when my father was supposed to return from the night shift at 6 in the morning.
00:55:16My mother, around 7, 7.30, starts to get worried, since he doesn't come home.
00:55:20She calls me right away and I try to reassure her, she will definitely be at the bar,
00:55:26Don't worry.
00:55:27In the meantime I tried to call him on his cell phone, he answered without warning.
00:55:33Alerted, we immediately saw ourselves in motion.
00:55:36The first thing I did was call her at the headquarters in Caserta,
00:55:38where he told me that they had no news, now they would find out.
00:55:45Michele Landa is dead.
00:55:47He was killed in his car, which was driven away, set on fire and thrown into a ditch in the countryside of
00:55:52Mondragone,
00:55:53where she was found four days later.
00:55:55Michele Landa's family receives his remains one piece at a time,
00:56:00as searches are carried out in the car,
00:56:02and they have to take them away in a shoebox.
00:56:05We will meet again on September 27th with many people who are close to us,
00:56:09they show us their pain, they show us the love they had for my father,
00:56:12but there is not even an institutional figure who represents the institution.
00:56:17And here my idea that we live in a place where the State is not there is reinforced.
00:56:22'And.
00:56:23Why did Michele Landa die?
00:56:25Why were there too many economic interests surrounding that repeater?
00:56:28Or because they wanted to turn him into a returning horse, steal him and ask for a ransom for his return?
00:56:34In any case, Michele Landa died because that's how you live and die in the lands,
00:56:39dominated by armed dictatorship, by the mafia.
00:56:41I am happy to tell my father's story to show all good people like us,
00:56:48How easy it is to get involved in the Camorra, in a land where there are no rights.
00:56:53This is the message I want to send to all the people of my land,
00:56:57where living together is not just watching them from the outside as spectators,
00:57:02but sooner or later you find yourself involved and then you have to justify yourself to others
00:57:07because it happened to your father.
00:57:09The Casalesi, in the sense of the Camorra of Casal di Principe and its surroundings, are there,
00:57:14but there are also the others, the Casalesi, in the sense of the people who live in Casal di Principe and the surrounding area
00:57:20and they are not criminals, in fact, they are not even indifferent,
00:57:23but they are working hard to give that word, Casalesi, a clean meaning.
00:57:29There are individuals and there are associations, such as Libera or the Don Peppino Diana Association,
00:57:35cultural initiatives, but also concrete things, such as the recovery of assets confiscated from the Casalesi,
00:57:40the bad ones, to return them to the good ones through management for the community.
00:57:45We called the restaurant NCO Nuova Cucina Organizzata.
00:57:50We start from a premise, this land is made up of people where there are no problems between them
00:57:56sociality,
00:57:57to be together, to talk, to share difficulties.
00:58:00So let's go and recover the strengths of our territory, the positive things,
00:58:05so let's focus on this.
00:58:06This is not an easy task, because the fight here is not only against military domination of the territory,
00:58:13but against a habit, a mentality, a series of values that make the Camorrista rich and feared
00:58:18an example to imitate and a little motel to reach.
00:58:22We are stubborn citizens who try to drag these institutions along with us.
00:58:29and we are getting some results.
00:58:33This path of active citizenship which strongly and determinedly wants alternative communities to the Camorra
00:58:41is starting to have its results.
00:58:44There is another enemy to fight and that is indifference,
00:58:48but the indifference of those who are far away, of those who live elsewhere
00:58:51and who thinks that everything that happens down there, in Casal di Principe and its surroundings,
00:58:55in the lands dominated by the armed dictatorship of the Camorra, all things considered, it doesn't concern him.
00:59:00That one more death, one more mayor threatened, one more arrest, one more seizure of assets,
00:59:05all in all it doesn't make the news.
00:59:20Here ends our story, the one we are telling,
00:59:23because the story of the Casalesi, of the mafia in the province of Caserta, is not over yet.
00:59:29It's not over for Lorenzo Diana, who has been living under police protection for 14 years,
00:59:33since the Casalesi sentenced him to death for his political activities.
00:59:37It's not over for Renato Natale, the former mayor of Casal di Principe,
00:59:41that he doesn't have the escort because he gave it up,
00:59:44to continue his work as a doctor among immigrants.
00:59:47It's not over for Rosaria Cappacchione and Roberto Sabiano,
00:59:51who have to be under escort for fear of being killed.
00:59:54And it's not over, of course, for all the good Casalesi,
00:59:58who live under the armed dictatorship of the Camorra.
01:00:01I mean the new generations who are in those areas, in my countries, nearby countries,
01:00:07not to look at these people with admiration, no.
01:00:12They are dogs, like I was a dog, I was a dog.
01:00:15And these are the same, they don't have the courage.
01:00:18They don't respect us for anything, for anyone, not for the territory, not for the people, not for each other.
01:00:23They don't even have respect for their families, their wives and so on.
01:00:27It's not power, people don't respect you because you are a person, they respect you out of fear.
01:00:33But maybe there is a way to end this story.
01:00:37It would be to not leave those people alone to act like heroes.
01:00:40A country that has no need of heroes is also a country where everyone is a hero, sincerely and naturally.
01:00:46where everyone, and not just some, come out to say
01:00:51Iovine, Zagaria, Schiavone, but also Riina, Messina Denaro and the lords of the Andrangheta
01:00:57and corrupt politicians, unfaithful officials and unscrupulous businessmen
01:01:01that poison the land, the economy and the souls of the people.
01:01:05Here, tell everyone you are nothing, you are worth nothing, go away, this land is not yours.
01:01:16Thank you
01:01:46Thank you
01:02:18Thank you
01:02:46Thank you
01:03:16Thank you