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A Columbia University forensic psychologist called Bryan Kohberger a serial killer in training after his guilty plea on July 2nd 2025. This video breaks down exactly what that clinical assessment means — and what the forensic record reveals about the motive behind the Idaho murders.
Four University of Idaho students — Madison Mogen, Kaylee Goncalves, Xana Kernodle, and Ethan Chapin — were killed at 1122 King Road Moscow Idaho on November 13th 2022. Bryan Kohberger was arrested December 30th 2022, pleaded guilty July 2nd 2025, and was sentenced to four consecutive life terms with no possibility of parole on July 23rd 2025.
This full forensic psychology breakdown covers the Probable Cause Affidavit, the unsealed autopsy documents released January 2026, and expert analysis from Dr. Gary Brucato at Columbia University and forensic pathologist Joseph Scott Morgan.
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CHAPTERS:
The Serial Killer In Training
Dr. Gary Brucato — Columbia University
The Psychosexual Fantasy Framework
Madison Mogen — The Primary Target
Joseph Scott Morgan — The Overkill Analysis
The Mask of Normalcy
The Guilty Plea — July 2 2025
Would He Have Killed Again
Closing Tribute
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SOURCES:
Probable Cause Affidavit — Latah County — December 30 2022
Unsealed Autopsy Documents — January 2026
Kohberger Guilty Plea — July 2 2025
Dr. Gary Brucato — Columbia University Irving Medical Center
Joseph Scott Morgan — Forensic Pathologist — Court TV
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A Columbia University forensic psychologist called Bryan Kohberger a serial killer in training after his guilty plea on July 2nd 2025. This video breaks down exactly what that clinical assessment means — and what the forensic record reveals about the motive behind the Idaho murders.
Four University of Idaho students — Madison Mogen, Kaylee Goncalves, Xana Kernodle, and Ethan Chapin — were killed at 1122 King Road Moscow Idaho on November 13th 2022. Bryan Kohberger was arrested December 30th 2022, pleaded guilty July 2nd 2025, and was sentenced to four consecutive life terms with no possibility of parole on July 23rd 2025.
This full forensic psychology breakdown covers the Probable Cause Affidavit, the unsealed autopsy documents released January 2026, and expert analysis from Dr. Gary Brucato at Columbia University and forensic pathologist Joseph Scott Morgan.
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CHAPTERS:
The Serial Killer In Training
Dr. Gary Brucato — Columbia University
The Psychosexual Fantasy Framework
Madison Mogen — The Primary Target
Joseph Scott Morgan — The Overkill Analysis
The Mask of Normalcy
The Guilty Plea — July 2 2025
Would He Have Killed Again
Closing Tribute
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SOURCES:
Probable Cause Affidavit — Latah County — December 30 2022
Unsealed Autopsy Documents — January 2026
Kohberger Guilty Plea — July 2 2025
Dr. Gary Brucato — Columbia University Irving Medical Center
Joseph Scott Morgan — Forensic Pathologist — Court TV
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⚠️ Content Warning: This video discusses violent crime in forensic detail.
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00:08A Columbia University psychologist sat in front of a room full of criminologists
00:13and said something that made the entire room go silent.
00:17He said Brian Koberger was not just a murderer.
00:21He said Koberger was a serial killer who only got caught after his first attempt.
00:26That one sentence, from a man who has spent his career studying the darkest corners of the human mind,
00:33changes everything about how we understand what happened at 1122 King Road on the night of November 13, 2022.
00:42Because if he's right, then Madison Mogan, Kaylee Gonsalves, Zanna Kurnodal, and Ethan Chapin were not random victims.
00:50They were specifically chosen, carefully planned, and part of something that, according to this psychologist,
00:58Koberger had been building toward in his mind for years.
01:02Tonight we are going deep into the psychology, the motive, the fantasy, and the forensic evidence
01:08that a Columbia University expert says what was in Brian Koberger's mind before, during, and after the murders.
01:16Stay with me. This one goes places.
01:20It was after that weight loss that a lot of people noticed a huge switch in him.
01:27My brother has since come out to say that, even though they were friends, Brian bullied him.
01:32He would put him in, like, chokeholds and stuff like that.
01:34He was afraid that his mother would have to take the stand.
01:37It seems that on the morning after the murders, at 6 a.m., he calls his mother in Pennsylvania,
01:43it's 9 a.m. there, and speaks for an hour.
01:45Also, he had gone across country with his father, and during that conversation, according to the reporting I did,
01:52his father was getting intimations of the monster his son had become, and he did not want his father put
01:58on the stand.
01:58Before we get into what the forensic evidence tells us about Koberger's mind,
02:03I want to introduce you to the expert whose analysis forms the backbone of what you're about to hear.
02:08Dr. Gary Bricado is not a YouTube commentator.
02:12He is not a Reddit theorist.
02:14He is a research scientist at Columbia University's Irving Medical Center,
02:19affiliated with the New York State Psychiatric Institute.
02:22He has spent his career studying what he calls mass casualty violence,
02:26the psychological patterns that lead certain individuals to plan and carry out attacks against multiple victims.
02:32He has studied hundreds of cases.
02:35He has published peer-reviewed research.
02:38And when Koberger pleaded guilty in July 2025,
02:42confirming that one man acting alone killed four people in under 15 minutes,
02:48Dr. Bricado began publicly sharing his analysis.
02:51What he said was clinical, methodical,
02:55and, if you follow true crime, profoundly disturbing.
02:59He called Koberger a serial killer in training.
03:03Let me tell you exactly what he meant by that,
03:06because it is not just a dramatic phrase.
03:09It is a clinical description with a specific psychological meaning.
03:13In criminal psychology, a serial killer in training
03:17refers to someone who has developed what experts call a homicidal fantasy,
03:21a detailed, private mental scenario of violence
03:25that the person rehearses repeatedly in their mind,
03:28refines over time, and eventually acts out.
03:32The key word is rehearses.
03:34This is not someone who snaps.
03:37This is not a crime of passion.
03:39This is someone who has run through the scenario so many times in their head
03:43that by the time they actually commit the act,
03:46they know exactly what they are doing.
03:48And the evidence in the Koberger case, according to Dr. Bricado,
03:52maps almost perfectly onto this pattern.
03:57It is not really possible to diagnose somebody
04:00with something like psychopathy from an armchair.
04:03It would require an extensive examination,
04:05at least through a view of records.
04:08But the reality is that certainly there are traits here
04:11that would warrant looking into that.
04:13The important thing to remember is that a portion of people
04:16who have psychopathic traits also have what might be called
04:19schizoid autistic detachment,
04:22which has nothing to do necessarily with autism.
04:24It means that a person has a kind of cold, alien-like, rote quality
04:29where that person can think of the victims
04:32in a very objectified way,
04:34like a scientist working on a sample
04:37as opposed to a human being.
04:39And I think whatever is going on here,
04:40that mechanical detachment figures very heavily
04:43into the way this was done and the way he was presenting in court.
04:48The concept of a homicidal fantasy
04:50is well-documented in forensic psychology literature.
04:54The FBI's Behavioral Science Unit
04:56first mapped this pattern in the 1970s and 1980s
05:00when they began interviewing convicted serial killers.
05:04Ted Bundy, John Wayne Gacy, Dennis Rader, Edmund Kemper,
05:09and they found striking consistencies.
05:12Nearly all of them described it the same way.
05:16It starts small, a dark thought,
05:19a violent image that flickers through the mind
05:21and, instead of being rejected,
05:24is entertained, revisited, developed.
05:28Over months, sometimes years,
05:30the fantasy becomes more detailed, more specific.
05:34The person starts to imagine
05:35not just a general scenario of violence,
05:38but a particular type of victim,
05:40a particular setting,
05:42a particular method.
05:44Dennis Rader, the BTK killer,
05:47described his fantasy as something
05:48he had been mentally rehearsing since adolescence.
05:51By the time he committed his first murder in 1974,
05:55he was not improvising.
05:57He was executing a plan
05:59he had already run through hundreds of times in his mind.
06:02Now, why does Dr. Brucato apply this framework
06:06to Koberger specifically?
06:07Because the evidence in this case
06:09does not look like a spontaneous crime.
06:11It looks like a rehearsed one.
06:14Let me walk you through the specific details
06:16that forensic psychologists point to.
06:19First, the 23 surveillance visits.
06:22Cell tower data and vehicle surveillance footage
06:25placed Brian Koberger's white Hyundai Elantra
06:28near 1122 King Road
06:31on at least 23 separate occasions
06:34in the months before the murders.
06:3623 times.
06:37Not once, not twice.
06:4023 documented visits.
06:42Mostly at night.
06:43Mostly in the late hours when the house was quiet.
06:46This is what forensic psychologists call
06:49target fixation.
06:50He was not randomly selecting victims
06:53the night of the attack.
06:54He had selected them long before.
06:56He had been watching,
06:58learning the rhythms of the house,
07:00when lights went off,
07:01when cars came and went,
07:03when the house was full,
07:05and when it was quiet.
07:06In Dr. Brucato's framework,
07:08these visits serve a dual purpose.
07:10They are practical reconnaissance,
07:13gathering information for execution.
07:15But they are also psychological reinforcement,
07:18each visit feeding the fantasy,
07:20making it more real,
07:22bringing the person closer to acting it out.
07:24He wasn't just watching the house.
07:27He was rehearsing.
07:29Second, the weapon.
07:31The murder weapon has never been recovered.
07:33But forensic experts were able to identify
07:36the type of knife from the wound patterns
07:38on the victim's bodies.
07:39A K-bar combat knife.
07:42Fixed blade.
07:43The same type of knife used by U.S. Marines.
07:46Koberger did not pick up a kitchen knife
07:48in a moment of rage.
07:49He brought a specific, purpose-built weapon
07:52to that house.
07:53A weapon that requires deliberate acquisition.
07:56A weapon that,
07:58to a criminologist studying violence,
08:00signals premeditation,
08:02and a specific type of fantasy
08:04about what violence looks and feels like.
08:07The knife sheath,
08:08which he left behind in Madison Mogan's bed,
08:10became the single most important piece
08:13of physical evidence in the case.
08:15DNA from the snap button on that sheath
08:17matched Koberger's profile in the CODIS database.
08:21But forensic psychologists point to the sheath itself
08:24as psychologically significant.
08:26He dropped it without realizing.
08:29He was so focused on the act,
08:31so deep in the execution of what he had planned,
08:34that he failed to register
08:35leaving critical evidence behind.
08:37That level of psychological absorption
08:40is consistent with someone acting out
08:42a deeply ingrained fantasy,
08:44not someone making rational decisions in real time.
08:48Third, the timing.
08:50The murders happened in the window
08:51between approximately 4 a.m. and 4.25 a.m.
08:56on November 13th.
08:57Zanna's last TikTok activity was at 4.12 a.m.,
09:01confirming she was awake
09:03when Koberger entered the house.
09:05A door dash delivery had arrived
09:06at approximately 4 a.m.
09:08Forensic psychologists note that
09:10Koberger's timing reflects knowledge
09:12of the house's patterns.
09:14This was not random.
09:16He knew they would likely be home.
09:18He had watched the house enough
09:19to understand when conditions were right.
09:22The 23 surveillance visits
09:24were not just fantasy reinforcement.
09:26They were research.
09:32Did you try to stop the search?
09:37No.
09:38Why is that?
09:42Well, I'd say I was afraid to,
09:44but that's not exactly the way.
09:47I mean, it's not that I was quaking in my shoes.
09:52I felt that I couldn't stop them
09:54from doing what they were doing,
09:55that they were going to go ahead
09:56and do it no matter what I did.
09:59They were intent.
10:01Their questions,
10:02the questions from Sergeant Andrak
10:04and, pardon me, Sergeant Hayward
10:06and the other officers at the scene
10:07indicated that they believed
10:10that I was involved in some sort of activity
10:13and they were hostile about it.
10:15Their questions seemed hostile to me.
10:17It indicated to me
10:18that they were going to do damn well
10:19what they pleased.
10:22and I did not have...
10:24You didn't see any point?
10:25There was no point.
10:26I didn't see how they had to stop
10:28a half a dozen uniformed armed officers
10:30from searching my car.
10:32They didn't ask you to hear them, sir?
10:34No.
10:35This is the part of Dr. Brucato's analysis
10:38that is hardest to hear.
10:40But if we are going to understand what happened,
10:43truly understand it,
10:44we have to talk about it.
10:49The knife sheath
10:50was not found in the hallway.
10:52It was not found at the entrance.
10:54It was found in Madison Mogan's bedroom.
10:57That detail matters enormously.
11:02In the context of the fantasy framework,
11:05forensic psychologists argue
11:06that where the primary item
11:08of physical evidence is found
11:10tells you something about
11:11where the attack was most psychologically
11:13significant to the perpetrator.
11:15Madison had 28 stab wounds.
11:18Kaylee had 38.
11:20Zanna had 67.
11:22Ethan had 17.
11:24But wound count alone
11:25is not the full picture.
11:27The theory,
11:28supported by Dr. Brucato
11:30and other forensic experts,
11:32is that Koberger entered
11:331122 King Road
11:35with a specific target in mind.
11:40Madison.
11:41Madison Mogan
11:42that she was the person
11:43around whom the fantasy
11:44had been constructed.
11:46And that the other victims,
11:48Kaylee sleeping beside her,
11:50Zanna and Ethan
11:51on the floor above,
11:54were additional targets
11:56who became part of the attack
11:57because they were present,
11:59not because they were the reason
12:00when Koberger was there.
12:06Madison Mogan
12:07was 21 years old.
12:09She loved her friends
12:10fiercely.
12:11She had her whole life
12:12ahead of her.
12:16She did not know
12:17she was being watched.
12:18She did not know
12:19someone had chosen her.
12:21That is not something
12:22she could have prevented.
12:24That is not something
12:25any of them
12:26could have prevented.
12:27Because the decision
12:28had been made
12:28long before November 13th.
12:33See ya, okay.
12:34So I'll tell you
12:35the same thing I told them.
12:36You probably know the drill, right?
12:37Actually, no.
12:38Oh, okay.
12:38So, usually,
12:39at least for me,
12:40I'll give you a verbal warning.
12:41Once I have neighbors calling in,
12:43he was just too loud.
12:43He was disturbing in peace.
12:45Nothing against having parties.
12:46Nothing against having people
12:47overage to drink.
12:48But again,
12:48once we start disturbing
12:49the neighbors,
12:50I'm going to grab me.
12:50Yeah.
12:51Always take it as up to 300.
12:53Yeah, somewhere around 300, 400 bucks.
12:55That's pretty expensive too
12:55that I don't want to tell you.
12:56That being said,
12:57this is your place.
12:58I'm going to hold yours.
12:59And they get it more expensive
13:00the later it gets.
13:02We already warned them too, so.
13:04And if I do have to come back here,
13:06we never take some dollar pick
13:07it's going to be bad.
13:08And I'll get some more expenses
13:09with this one there.
13:10Yeah, that's right.
13:11I'll pull.
13:13Actually,
13:14this looks like a phone number for ya.
13:20Is this 11.22 here?
13:22Yeah.
13:22Okay.
13:25I'd much rather you spend
13:26letting that through
13:26and broke some beer
13:27or something fun.
13:28Yeah.
13:28Well, let's just take it, really.
13:29Yeah, thank you.
13:30I appreciate it.
13:30Yeah.
13:32That being said,
13:33warnings.
13:34Don't do it again.
13:35Yep.
13:36I'd hate to come back
13:36in a few hours
13:37and then I'll have,
13:38but we should know.
13:38So, any questions for me?
13:39No.
13:40All right.
13:40Have a very good day.
13:41Take care.
13:47If Dr. Brucato gives us
13:49the psychological framework,
13:51forensic pathologist
13:52Joseph Scott Morgan
13:53gives us the physical evidence
13:55that confirms it.
13:57Morgan is one of the most
13:58respected forensic pathologists
14:00in the United States.
14:01He is the author of
14:03Blood Secrets,
14:04a forensic memoir
14:05drawing on decades
14:06of autopsy experience.
14:08He has appeared as an expert
14:10on Court TV,
14:11HLN,
14:12and numerous
14:13true crime investigations.
14:15When the autopsy documents
14:16for the Idaho Four
14:18were partially unsealed
14:19in January, 2026,
14:22Morgan was among
14:22the forensic experts
14:24who analyzed
14:24what was revealed.
14:26His conclusion
14:26about Zanna Kurnodal
14:28was striking.
14:2967 stab wounds,
14:3125 of them classified
14:33as defensive wounds,
14:35meaning Zanna raised her hands,
14:37her arms,
14:38her body,
14:39to try to stop the blade.
14:40The cuts went into
14:42the bone of her right hand.
14:43Morgan used a specific
14:45clinical term
14:46to describe what
14:47the wound pattern suggests
14:48about the attacker's
14:50mental state.
14:51Overkill.
14:52In forensic pathology,
14:54overkill,
14:55wounds far in excess
14:57of what would be required
14:58to cause death,
14:59is interpreted as evidence
15:01of an elevated emotional state
15:02in the perpetrator.
15:04Rage.
15:05Escalation.
15:07Loss of the controlled
15:08execution that had been planned.
15:10Why does that matter psychologically?
15:12Because Zanna fought back,
15:15and Koberger was not prepared
15:17for that.
15:18Remember,
15:19his fantasy was rehearsed,
15:21controlled.
15:22He had imagined this attack
15:24hundreds of times,
15:26but in none of those
15:27mental rehearsals
15:28had a victim resisted
15:29the way Zanna did.
15:30And when she fought,
15:32when the fantasy collided
15:34with a real human being
15:35who refused to comply,
15:37something broke down.
15:38The controlled execution
15:40fractured.
15:42The wound count escalated
15:43beyond anything clinical
15:45or purposeful.
15:4667 wounds
15:48is not a calculation.
15:49It is a reaction.
15:51A breakdown.
15:52A man who thought
15:53he was in control,
15:55realizing,
15:56in real time,
15:57that he wasn't.
15:58Now let's talk about
16:00the blood trail,
16:01because it tells
16:02a specific directional story.
16:04Blood was found
16:05on the banister
16:06of the stairwell,
16:07consistent with someone
16:08carrying blood
16:09downward from the upper floors.
16:12Not upward.
16:13Downward.
16:15Zanna had blood
16:16on her bare feet,
16:17indicating she had moved
16:18after the initial attack.
16:20Forensic experts believe
16:22she pursued Koberger
16:23toward the hallway
16:24before collapsing.
16:25Her fight did not end
16:27where it began.
16:29Dylan Mortensen,
16:30who was on the ground floor
16:31that night,
16:32encountered a figure
16:33at the sliding glass door.
16:35Black clothing.
16:36A mask.
16:38The figure walked past her
16:40in what experts describe
16:41as a deliberate,
16:42controlled exit.
16:44Tonic immobility.
16:46A freeze response
16:47triggered by extreme threat
16:49prevented Dylan
16:50from calling for help
16:51in that moment.
16:52This is not a failure
16:53on Dylan's part.
16:54It is a documented
16:56physiological response.
16:57The body's emergency break.
17:00The blood trail,
17:02the exit path,
17:03and Dylan's account
17:04together paint a picture
17:06of someone who had
17:07completed what he came to do
17:08and was leaving
17:09exactly as he had planned to.
17:12The overkill on Zanna
17:13was not the plan.
17:15It was a deviation.
17:17And the fact that he was
17:18still able to exit
17:19calmly afterward,
17:21that he could transition
17:22from that level of frenzy
17:23back into a controlled exit
17:25is, according to forensic experts,
17:28one of the most chilling details
17:30of the entire case.
17:33Here is the question
17:34that genuinely disturbs people
17:36most about this case.
17:37How did nobody know?
17:40Brian Koberger
17:41was a Ph.D. student
17:43in criminology
17:44at Washington State University.
17:46He was studying
17:47the very field
17:48designed to understand
17:49and prevent violent crime.
17:51He had classmates,
17:52professors,
17:53neighbors,
17:54a family who flew
17:55from Pennsylvania
17:56when he was arrested.
17:57And nobody knew.
18:00There is Costco surveillance footage
18:02from the days
18:03following the murders
18:04showing Koberger shopping.
18:06Normal.
18:07Composed.
18:08Buying groceries.
18:09Four people were dead.
18:11He had left his DNA
18:12at the scene,
18:13and he was buying groceries
18:15at Costco.
18:17Forensic psychologists
18:19have a term for this,
18:20the mask of normalcy.
18:22It refers to the ability
18:24of certain individuals,
18:25particularly those
18:26who fall on
18:27what researchers call
18:28the dark triad
18:29personality spectrum,
18:31which includes
18:32narcissism,
18:33Machiavellianism,
18:34and psychopathy,
18:36to compartmentalize
18:37their inner life
18:38so completely
18:39that the external presentation
18:40remains entirely
18:42undisturbed.
18:43For Koberger,
18:45the criminology degree
18:46is particularly significant
18:47in this context.
18:49He was not just living
18:50a double life accidentally.
18:52He was studying
18:53the very systems
18:54designed to catch
18:55people like him.
18:56He understood forensics.
18:58He understood
18:58investigation methodology.
19:00He understood
19:01what evidence
19:02gets left behind.
19:03And he still
19:04made mistakes.
19:06The sheath.
19:07The cell phone data.
19:09The white Elantra
19:10captured on
19:1023 surveillance passes.
19:12The DNA.
19:14The mask of normalcy
19:15is not the same
19:16as innocence.
19:17It is the most
19:18dangerous kind of guilt.
19:20The kind that looks
19:21exactly like everyone else.
19:26On July 2nd, 2025,
19:28Brian Koberger
19:29walked into a courtroom
19:30in Lataw County, Idaho
19:32and pleaded guilty.
19:34Four counts
19:35of first-degree murder,
19:36one count
19:37of felony burglary.
19:38He admitted
19:39sole responsibility.
19:40One person
19:41acting alone
19:43under 15 minutes.
19:45Every theory
19:46about multiple
19:47attackers?
19:47Answered.
19:49Every theory
19:49about planted evidence?
19:51Answered.
19:51Every theory
19:53about prosecution
19:53misconduct?
19:55Answered.
19:56In that courtroom
19:57on July 2nd,
19:58Koberger himself
19:59confirmed what the
20:00evidence had always
20:01pointed to.
20:02On July 23rd, 2025,
20:05he was sentenced.
20:07Four consecutive
20:08life terms.
20:09No possibility
20:10of parole.
20:11He will die
20:12in prison.
20:13He is currently
20:14housed at Idaho
20:15Maximum Security
20:16Institution
20:16in CUNA, Idaho.
20:18J Block.
20:19Solitary confinement.
20:2123 hours per day,
20:23alone, in a cell.
20:25At sentencing,
20:26the families
20:27of the victim
20:27stood up and spoke.
20:29Jasmine Kurnodal,
20:30Zayna's sister,
20:31spoke about the
20:32sister she lost.
20:34About the graduation
20:35cap that read,
20:36For the lives
20:37that I will change.
20:38About the life
20:39that was taken
20:40before Zayna
20:41had the chance
20:42to change any of them.
20:44Jeff Kurnodal,
20:45Zayna's father,
20:46spoke about the weight
20:47of raising his daughter
20:48to the moment
20:49she was gone.
20:50And Randy Davis,
20:52one of the victim families,
20:53said something
20:54that has stayed
20:54with many
20:55who watched
20:56the sentencing.
20:57He offered forgiveness,
20:59not for Koberger's benefit,
21:00for his own.
21:02These families
21:03have carried something
21:04unimaginable
21:05for two and a half years,
21:06and on July 23rd, 2025,
21:09they stood up
21:10in a courtroom
21:11and faced
21:12the man responsible.
21:13And they spoke
21:14with more dignity
21:15than most of us
21:16will ever be called
21:17upon to demonstrate.
21:21Thank you,
21:21Your Honor.
21:25What happened
21:26that night
21:26changed everything.
21:32Because of him,
21:34for a beautiful,
21:38genuine,
21:40compassionate people
21:42were taken
21:43from this world
21:44for no reason.
21:52He didn't just
21:53take their lives.
21:54He took the light
21:55that carried it
21:56into every room.
21:58He took away
21:59how they made
22:00everyone feel safe,
22:01loved,
22:02and full of joy.
22:05He took away
22:06the ability
22:06for me to tell him
22:07that I love him
22:08and I'm so proud
22:09of them.
22:13He took away
22:14who they were
22:14becoming
22:15and the futures
22:16they were going
22:17to have.
22:18He took away
22:19birthdays,
22:21graduations,
22:23celebrations,
22:26and all the memories
22:27that we were
22:28supposed to make.
22:28All of it
22:29is gone.
22:32And all the people
22:33who love them
22:33are just left
22:34to carry that weight
22:35forever.
22:37He didn't just
22:38take them
22:39from the world.
22:40He took them
22:41from me,
22:42my friends,
22:44my people
22:45who felt like
22:46my home,
22:48the people
22:49I looked up to
22:50and adored
22:51more than anyone.
22:53He took away
22:54my ability
22:55to trust the world
22:56around me.
22:58What he did
22:58shattered me
22:59in places
23:00I didn't know
23:01could break.
23:02I was barely
23:0319 when he did this.
23:05We had just
23:06celebrated my birthday
23:07at the end of September.
23:10I should have been
23:10figuring out
23:11who I was.
23:12I should have been
23:13having the college
23:14experience
23:14and starting
23:16to establish
23:16my future.
23:18Instead,
23:20I was forced
23:21to learn
23:21how to survive
23:22the unimaginable.
23:25I couldn't be alone.
23:29I had to sleep
23:31in my mom's bed
23:31because I was
23:32too terrified
23:33terrified to close
23:33my eyes,
23:35terrified that if I blinked
23:36someone might be there.
23:39I made escape plans
23:41everywhere I went.
23:42If something happens,
23:44how do I get out?
23:45What can I use
23:46to defend myself?
23:48Who can I help?
23:50Then there are
23:51the panic attacks.
23:53The kind that
23:54slam into me
23:55like a tsunami
23:55out of nowhere.
23:56I can't breathe.
24:00I can't think.
24:02I can't stop shaking.
24:09All I can do
24:10is scream
24:10because the emotional pain
24:13and the grief
24:14is too much to handle.
24:16My chest,
24:17it feels like
24:17it's caving in.
24:21Sometimes I drop
24:22to the floor
24:23with my heart racing
24:24convinced something
24:26is very wrong.
24:27It's far beyond anxiety.
24:30It's my body
24:31reliving everything
24:32over and over again.
24:35My nervous system
24:36never got the message
24:37that it is over
24:38and it won't let me
24:40forget what he did
24:40to them.
24:43People call me strong.
24:45They say I'm a survivor
24:47but I don't see
24:48what my new reality
24:49looks like.
24:50They don't see
24:51the panic attacks,
24:52the hypervigilance,
24:54the exhaustion,
24:56the way I scan
24:57every room I enter,
24:59the way I flinch
25:00at sudden sounds.
25:02They don't know
25:03how heavy it is
25:04to carry so much pain
25:06and still be expected
25:07to keep going
25:07and that's because of him.
25:11He still parts of me
25:13and may never get back.
25:15He still,
25:16although he took
25:16the version of me
25:17who didn't constantly ask,
25:18what if it happens again?
25:22What if next time
25:23I don't survive?
25:35He may have shattered
25:36parts of me
25:38but I'm still putting
25:39myself back together.
25:41Piece by piece,
25:42I'm learning how to live
25:44in this new version
25:45of life.
25:46It is not easy.
25:47It hurts.
25:49But I'm still trying.
25:51Still trying
25:52and I'm not trying
25:53just for me.
25:54I'm trying for them,
25:55my friends.
25:58About a year ago,
26:00I had a dream about them.
26:02I got to say goodbye.
26:04I told them
26:05I won't be able
26:05to see you again
26:07so I need to tell you goodbye.
26:08They all kept asking why
26:11and all I could say was
26:12I can't tell you
26:13but I have to.
26:15When I woke up,
26:16I felt shattered
26:18and heartbroken
26:20but also strangely grateful.
26:22Like maybe in some way
26:24that dream gave us
26:25the goodbye we never got.
26:27Still no dream
26:28can replace them
26:29and no goodbye
26:31will ever feel finished.
26:34He is a hollow vessel,
26:36something less than human.
26:38A body without empathy,
26:41without remorse.
26:43He chose destruction.
26:45He chose evil.
26:48He feels nothing.
26:50He tried to take everything
26:52from me.
26:53My friends,
26:54my safety,
26:55my identity,
26:57my future.
26:58He took their lives
27:00but I will continue
27:02trying to be like them
27:03to make them proud.
27:06Living is how I honor them.
27:08Speaking today
27:09is to help me find
27:10some sort of justice
27:11for them
27:12and I will never let him
27:13take that from me.
27:15He may have taken
27:16so much from me
27:17but he will never
27:18get to take my voice.
27:22He will never
27:23take the memories
27:24I had with them.
27:27He will never
27:28erase the love
27:29we shared,
27:29the laughs we had
27:31or the way
27:32they made me feel
27:32seen and whole.
27:33Those things are mine.
27:35They are sacred
27:37and he will never
27:38touch them.
27:40I get to feel sadness.
27:41I get to feel rage.
27:43I get to feel joy
27:44even when it's hard.
27:46I get to feel love
27:48even when it hurts.
27:49I get to live.
27:51And while I will still
27:52live with this pain,
27:53at least I get
27:54to live my life.
27:55He will stay here
27:57empty,
27:58forgotten
27:59and powerless.
28:01This is the question
28:02that Dr. Bruccato's
28:03framework raises
28:04and I want to
28:05address it directly.
28:07Would Brian Koberger
28:08have killed again?
28:11Dr. Bruccato's analysis
28:13says yes
28:14and here is why.
28:15In the documented
28:17history of serial killers
28:18who were caught
28:19after their first
28:20or second offense,
28:21the overwhelming pattern
28:22is escalation.
28:24The first attack,
28:25however devastating,
28:26is almost never
28:27the final one
28:28in the perpetrator's
28:29planning.
28:30It is the proof
28:31of concept,
28:32the confirmation
28:33that the fantasy
28:34can be executed
28:35in reality.
28:36Ted Bundy
28:37committed his first
28:38confirmed murder
28:39in 1974.
28:41He was not caught
28:42until 1978,
28:43by which point
28:44he had killed
28:45at least 30 women
28:46across multiple states.
28:47Dennis Rader killed
28:49his first victims
28:50in 1974.
28:52He was not caught
28:53until 2005.
28:5531 years,
28:5710 confirmed victims.
28:59The pattern
29:00in these cases
29:00is that the first attack
29:02both satisfies
29:03the fantasy temporarily
29:04and simultaneously
29:06raises the threshold.
29:08The person needs more,
29:10needs escalation.
29:12The fantasy has to grow
29:13to maintain
29:14its psychological function.
29:16Brian Koberger
29:18was 28 years old
29:19when he was arrested.
29:20He was a Ph.D. student
29:22studying criminal behavior.
29:24He had access
29:25to forensic knowledge.
29:26He had already
29:27demonstrated
29:28the capacity
29:28to plan,
29:29surveil,
29:30execute,
29:31and exit
29:32a quadruple homicide
29:33while leaving behind
29:35a single,
29:35employable piece
29:36of DNA evidence.
29:38Dr. Brucato's
29:40clinical assessment
29:40is not rhetorical.
29:42It is based
29:43on pattern recognition
29:44across hundreds
29:45of documented cases.
29:47There is one more detail
29:48about Koberger
29:49that makes this assessment
29:50even more chilling.
29:52His academic dissertation
29:53research at WSU
29:55focused on pain,
29:57suffering,
29:57and the cognitive processes
29:59involved in criminal
30:01decision-making.
30:02He was not just
30:03a student of criminology.
30:04He was,
30:06according to forensic experts,
30:08someone who may have
30:08been using
30:09academic frameworks
30:10to understand
30:11and refine
30:12his own psychology
30:13of violence,
30:14studying the predator
30:16while becoming one.
30:18He was caught.
30:19He pleaded guilty.
30:20He will die in prison.
30:23And we cannot know,
30:24we will never know,
30:25how many more nights
30:27he had already planned.
30:31Ryan Koberger
30:32will spend the rest
30:33of his life
30:33in a cell
30:3423 hours a day.
30:35He will have
30:36nothing but time.
30:38And somewhere
30:39in that silence,
30:40in that isolation,
30:41whatever it is
30:42he built in his mind,
30:43that fantasy,
30:45that carefully constructed
30:46psychological architecture,
30:49it will have
30:49nowhere to go.
30:51That is not justice.
30:53Nothing is justice
30:54for what was taken.
30:55But it is the best
30:57the law can do.
30:58And while he sits
31:00in that cell,
31:00the families of
31:01Madison Mogan,
31:02Kaylee Gonsalves,
31:04Zana Kurnodel,
31:05and Ethan Chapin
31:06are rebuilding
31:07their lives,
31:08day by day,
31:10without them.
31:11Madison Mogan
31:12was 21.
31:13She loved her friends
31:14like family.
31:15She was somebody's
31:16whole world.
31:18Kaylee Gonsalves
31:19was 21.
31:20She was planning
31:21her future.
31:22She died
31:23beside her best friend.
31:25Zana Kurnodel
31:25was 20.
31:26Her graduation cap
31:27said,
31:28for the lives
31:29that I will change.
31:30She fought back
31:31with everything
31:32she had.
31:33Ethan Chapin
31:34was 20.
31:35He was a triplet.
31:36A son.
31:37A boyfriend
31:38who happened
31:39to be in the wrong place.
31:40He didn't deserve
31:42any of it.
31:43None of them did.
31:44This channel exists
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31:46deserve to be told
31:47carefully,
31:49accurately,
31:50with respect
31:50for the people
31:51at the center of them.
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