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00:00Previously on Tribunal Justice.
00:03The truck had major problems that made it unsafe to drive.
00:06The motor could blow up, potentially.
00:08I'm 100% sure he's lying.
00:11I'm thinking about all the things that you did that would be textbook how not to buy a car.
00:17I probably should have had it checked out by a mechanic first.
00:19He's selling the truck.
00:20Truck sounds like a jet and has plenty of power.
00:24So, who is being dishonest here?
00:51Today's case was filed in McMinnville, Oregon.
00:55All right, I just want to clean a couple of things up, if I could.
00:58You sold the vehicle.
00:59Yes, Your Honor.
01:00This document was provided by the defendant, right?
01:04That was the ad?
01:05Correct.
01:05And you gave this to me, Ms. Busser, because you wanted to show us that he was being dishonest
01:10when he failed to list the engine problems, right, that he's complaining about right now.
01:14Right?
01:15Yes.
01:15That ad is dated October 24th, 2024.
01:18So, he bought the truck on September 22nd?
01:21Mm-hmm.
01:22And then he's selling it on October 24th?
01:24Um, on the listing, if you look at the photo, it says about a month ago.
01:28So, he listed about a month before October, which was two days after I sold him the truck.
01:33So, that's consistent with what he's saying.
01:34He says by two days after the truck, he knows that despite what you specifically told him,
01:39and I'm not talking puffery, the truck runs great when it might just run good.
01:43That's puffery, and Judge Acker's 100% right.
01:46But you specifically told him that there were no engine problems, right?
01:49Yeah.
01:49Because there weren't any engine problems.
01:50There weren't any.
01:51And you already testified that the mechanic told you there were no engine problems.
01:54Yeah, correct.
01:55But, to be quite fair, Mr. Robinson, you also provided us with a text that was the text that
02:01you sent out to people when they responded to this partial ad.
02:05Now, mind you, the defendants provided us with this information, right, this ad.
02:09What you said is that this ad is not complete, and there were additional documents that they
02:14could have printed out and provided us with that had your explanation about the head gaskets.
02:19They just didn't print it out.
02:20Yes, Your Honor.
02:21And on your text message, though, that you did provide us with, this is you responding
02:25to one of those people who contacted you.
02:27I mean, yeah, it runs in drives, but needs some pretty big repairs.
02:31It has low mileage, but I just got it out of the diesel shop, and it needs two injectors
02:36and has leaky head gaskets.
02:39You didn't know that they were going to come in here, provide us with a half document
02:43to make you look bad, and so you gave us that text message to prove the falsity of what they
02:49were trying to pull the wool over our eyes.
02:51Did I get that right?
02:52Yes, Your Honor.
02:53That's correct.
02:53On that receipt that we got from your mechanic, it was dated June 10th, 2024, right?
02:58Yeah, correct.
02:59June 10th, 2024.
03:00You got this work done, and you sold it September 22nd, right?
03:04Yeah, correct.
03:04And you say that you were driving it every day between June 10th until you sold it June
03:1022nd, right?
03:11Yes.
03:12And that mechanic, his name was Zachary Heflin, right?
03:16Correct.
03:16Did you know him?
03:18No.
03:18You, ma'am?
03:19Uh, no, we were recommended by a friend of ours that takes their vehicle there.
03:23And that friend of yours said that this was a good mechanic, honest guy?
03:26Yeah.
03:27He's not going to try to rip you off?
03:29No.
03:29You have no reason to believe why Zachary Heflin would be biased against you, do you?
03:34No.
03:35Great.
03:36I think we have a witness that we like to bring in, Zachary Heflin.
03:42Coming up on Tribunal Justice.
03:45You said that the truck had 152,000 miles, didn't you?
03:48Yeah, right.
03:48And the car facts shows 362,000 miles.
03:54So how do you explain that discrepancy?
04:02Justin Robinson is suing Aubrey Bregosian and her mom, Alyssa Busser, for $10,000.
04:07Justin claims they sold him a truck that was too dangerous to drive.
04:11But Aubrey and Alyssa say it was an as-is sale, and they never misrepresented anything.
04:17What's your name?
04:18Zach Heflin.
04:19Take a look at these two ladies over here.
04:21You recognize him?
04:22Yeah.
04:23Who is he?
04:24The mechanic.
04:25I'm going to make this real clear and simple for you.
04:28Yeah.
04:29Now that you see him standing right there.
04:31Yeah.
04:32Is there anything about your testimony you want to change?
04:35No.
04:35About what he told you?
04:37No.
04:37About problems and engine problems with that vehicle?
04:40No.
04:41Good.
04:41Digging in, doubling down.
04:43How long have you been a mechanic?
04:45Ten years.
04:46Did you work on this 2005 Ford F-350?
04:49Yes.
04:50Is that the truck that's on the screen right now that they brought in?
04:53Correct.
04:53And when they brought the truck in, it was not running, correct?
04:56Correct.
04:56They had to tow it in?
04:57Correct.
04:58Tell us about the inspection, what you did, and most importantly, what you told them, if
05:03anything, about substantial engine problems, specifically with the head gasket.
05:07So we took the truck in, pulled codes off of the truck.
05:11It had immediate injector codes, low oil pressure codes, and a ton of other random glow plug
05:17codes and similar stuff.
05:18Truck needed a wiring harness.
05:20I recommended we put an OEM Ford harness in it.
05:23Too expensive.
05:24They wanted to go with one they provided.
05:26Okay, no problem.
05:28We installed the harness, found more issues.
05:30Now the truck would crank, still no start.
05:32Found bad injectors, found a bad fuel injection control module.
05:37Tore the truck back apart.
05:38Talked to them about it.
05:39Told them what we recommended, which is removing the cab and doing the head gasket job.
05:45When you do that, all these little problems will not nickel and dime you.
05:49You do it once.
05:50When you do it once, it's done right.
05:52Warranty, no problem.
05:53That head gasket that you told them that you wanted to take the cab off to get to,
05:57it was your professional opinion that that needed to be replaced?
06:00Absolutely.
06:01And you told that to them?
06:02Correct.
06:02Hmm.
06:03I don't want to hear you.
06:04I got nothing to say to you.
06:06I want to hear from him.
06:07Go on.
06:08Once we installed the new set of injectors, a used fuel injection control module,
06:12trying to save some money, we did a high pressure oil pump, which was also not working properly,
06:17and then we did a fuel lift pump.
06:18These parts, one of them was not noted on the invoice because we were trying to help.
06:23They had $4,000 to work with.
06:25My repair would have been $12,000, but I knew they were in a tight spot.
06:28I wanted to fix the truck so they could at least use it or sell it.
06:32So we did everything in our power to make it run, but it was not correct.
06:37The truck needed a lot of work.
06:38If I understand your testimony, you provided the defendants with a list of items that needed
06:43to be fixed, including new head gaskets.
06:46They ignored your recommendation?
06:47It was a decline.
06:48Because it was going to cost an extra $8,000?
06:50Correct.
06:51And they fixed none of the engine problems and instead only authorized repairs to the truck
06:55so that it could get running and sold?
06:58Correct.
06:58Did you tell them that the truck should not be driven with a blown head gasket?
07:02Yes.
07:03And did you tell them that the truck was not safe to drive?
07:07Yes.
07:07Why would he lie?
07:09I don't know, Your Honor.
07:11This is for Mr. Heflin.
07:13I never received a list of the repairs that needed to be done.
07:17You mean a written list?
07:18He called me and told me.
07:18You mean a written list?
07:19He's not telling you he gave you a written list.
07:21He says that he told you verbally.
07:23He told you verbally the truck should not be driven with a blown head gasket.
07:27It's not safe to drive.
07:29You simply want to get it running so that you could sell it, right?
07:33Correct.
07:34In addition to that, sorry, if I may go ahead.
07:36And there's more?
07:37Yes.
07:38When the truck was driven under light circumstances, there presented no issues.
07:44When the truck was driven on the highway under high load, three-quarter throttle, for an example,
07:50the turbo would surge.
07:52That was made known.
07:53But that's only known out on the highway and under hard load and acceleration.
07:58Once you get back stopped, the coolant bottle has so much pressure that coolant will puke out onto the ground.
08:04And did you tell them that that turbo was bad?
08:07Yes.
08:07Yes.
08:08Engine problem, bad.
08:10Turbo, bad.
08:11Head gaskets, bad.
08:12Now, Judge Acker made it very clear.
08:15Used car, buyer beware.
08:17You're stuck unless you can prove fraud, such as there were no engine problems that existed prior to the sale,
08:25that the sellers were aware of those problems, the sellers intentionally hid those problems,
08:31and the sellers made false statements regarding those problems that persuaded you, sir, to buy that vehicle.
08:41That is fraud.
08:42Were you persuaded to buy the vehicle based upon their now-known misrepresentations regarding the major engine problems?
08:50Yes, Your Honor.
08:51I am done.
08:53You should be ashamed of yourselves.
08:56Remember, Aubrey, I said that you would do better saying less.
09:00Yeah.
09:01And that includes in the initial transaction.
09:03Yeah, correct.
09:04Because I have something, you know, that I'm a little concerned about, too.
09:07And that is, in your ad, you said that the truck had 152,000 miles, didn't you?
09:13Yes, correct.
09:14But what the two of you may not know is that our team does some independent research.
09:20And they pulled up a Carfax.
09:22And the Carfax shows that the last reported odometer reading was 362,000 miles.
09:30So how do you explain that discrepancy?
09:34Coming up on Tribunal Justice.
09:37If these things were wrong with the truck, we were misled as well.
09:41Because I would have never put my children in an unsafe vehicle.
09:51Defendants Aubrey Boghossian and her mom, Alyssa Busser, are being sued by Justin Robinson for $10,000.
09:57Justin claims the defendants lied about the condition of a truck he bought from them.
10:01But Aubrey says Justin came, saw, and bought the truck as is.
10:05So they owe nothing.
10:07What the two of you may not know is that our team does some independent research.
10:12And they pulled up a Carfax.
10:13And the Carfax shows that the last reported odometer reading was 362,000 miles.
10:22So how do you explain that discrepancy?
10:25When I got the vehicle, it had about $150,000.
10:28And where did you get it from?
10:29You said it was gifted from your father.
10:31I got it from my father.
10:32He got it from an auction.
10:33Probably two years before I had it.
10:35But you understand what's going on here?
10:37Like, it all looks really, really bad.
10:40And, Mom, did you have some way of refuting that?
10:43Because it's pretty compelling testimony.
10:46And it's hard for me to get my head around why he would just show up and lie.
10:50So how do you explain that?
10:52It's troubling.
10:53For one, Aubrey really never spoke to Mr. Heflin.
10:57I spoke to Mr. Heflin.
10:59The only time she...
11:00So much the worse.
11:01Your mom.
11:01She spoke to him was when we picked up the truck, and he told her in front of me to
11:07her face,
11:08you do not have to sell this truck if you do not want to.
11:11This is a good truck.
11:12It has a lot of good parts on it.
11:15He said that to my daughter to the point where she felt like she didn't need to sell the truck
11:20anymore,
11:20and she was conflicted, and that's why she cried the day that Mr. Robinson was coming to get the truck
11:27because she genuinely loved the truck.
11:29Now, if these things were wrong with the truck, we were misled as well, 100% misled.
11:37Because Mr. Heflin, what he projected to us was that the truck could be bulletproofed
11:44and there would never be a head gasket issue.
11:46He never specifically said the head gasket is blown, the head gasket has a problem.
11:52If that was the issue, then why did he go through all these other efforts of trying to figure out
11:58what was wrong with the truck in between there?
12:02Okay, I'm going to stop you there, and I'm going to let you, or rather your witness,
12:06have the last word because it's still your burden of proof.
12:09I did.
12:09I said that this would be a good truck if it had the head gaskets done.
12:13And to speak to the bulletproofing, that is a slang term used for doing head gaskets.
12:19They're not two separate repairs.
12:20I'm not aware of that.
12:21I'm not aware of that.
12:23He was not very clear on that the truck needed a head gasket.
12:27He stated that a friend of his had a truck like that for many, many years with lots of high
12:33mileage.
12:34That has never had an issue, so it would be fine if we didn't do it.
12:38Mr. Heflin knew my teenage daughter was driving that vehicle every day with not only her,
12:43but my other three children in the vehicle every day.
12:46Okay, okay.
12:47If he knew it was unsafe, being a father himself, I sure hope he would have pointed out,
12:53hey, Ms. Busser, this vehicle is unsafe because I would have never put my children in an unsafe vehicle.
13:00Okay.
13:01And that's the fact of it.
13:02All right, Judge.
13:04I'm just curious.
13:06You know he has a family and all, so why, when you were first asked, do you know him,
13:10why did you both say no?
13:12Well, we didn't know him before.
13:14We don't know him.
13:15We live in a very, very small town.
13:16But that wasn't the question.
13:17I think Judge Levy said, have you ever heard of him?
13:20Do you know him?
13:20We said yes, ma'am.
13:22We did say yes.
13:22Did I see anybody say yes?
13:24I never saw a yes.
13:25You know they're lying and their mouths are moving.
13:27Ma'am, ma'am, you both said no.
13:29Not on a personal level.
13:31That's enough.
13:31So I'm going to go back to you, Aubrey.
13:33How long did you have that vehicle not working?
13:37Like before I took it to the shop?
13:39Yeah.
13:39Like a few months.
13:42Just a few months.
13:43Because you had the car, according to what you told us, your father bought it at auction two years before
13:48that.
13:48Yeah, I'm pretty sure.
13:49And in those two years, you only put on 2,000 miles?
13:54We didn't ever drive it that often.
13:56When I got it...
13:56You never drove it because it wasn't working.
13:58We live a mile from our school.
14:00Aubrey?
14:01My school is right around the corner and that's just where I drove it.
14:04So you...
14:04Okay, so that brings me to you because I'm guessing that if you said to her, because most mechanics ask
14:10this question, what do you use the car for?
14:12And if she said to you, I used it just to go back and forth from school, then you would
14:17have been correct if you said to her, well, then you could keep this car for as long as you
14:22want, basically, if that's all you're using it for.
14:24Would that be an accurate statement by me?
14:27No.
14:28Okay.
14:28The reason I say that is it is hurting the heads to drive it like that.
14:32It will crack them further.
14:34So it is okay to drive, but it will have more issues when driven like that.
14:40I still think it's a solid truck if it had the head gasket job done.
14:44I do, I mean, three of these a month.
14:48It's a routine job for this pickup.
14:51It's just $12,000.
14:53However you cut it, it's $12,000, but that truck will run for 100,000 miles after that repair.
14:58Did you ever tell her that she couldn't use it on the highway the way it was repaired?
15:02No.
15:03I told them specifically that the truck was not ready to go down the road, period.
15:09So they could drive it on the highway if they wanted to.
15:12That's not my spot to make an assessment.
15:16That's it.
15:17Thank you very much.
15:17We're going to retire you to deliberate.
15:19Court is now in recess.
15:21Yes, parties will be recalled.
15:31Bald face liars.
15:34I mean, the mom was a co-conspirator in committing that fraud.
15:38What is she teaching her daughter?
15:40I mean, her dad's in prison.
15:42Her mother is telling her that it's okay to lie and commit outright fraud.
15:46Grand larceny.
15:47What she did was grand larceny.
15:50I mean, it is absolutely insane.
15:52But for the fact that we were able to secure the testimony of that mechanic, Mr. Heffler, who I believe
16:00was super impressive.
16:03He was good.
16:03Super impressive.
16:05He was good.
16:05We would have been in a position to say, as is sale.
16:10Insane.
16:11Now, he bought the truck from them for $15,000.
16:15He sold it for $6,000.
16:18My math, $9,000 is what is damage.
16:22I would award him $10,000 and give him $1,000 for punitive damages based upon the outright lies and
16:29the fraud that not only that the two of those people committed when they sold the truck to him, but
16:35the fraud on the court.
16:36I'm troubled by the evidence that came out and good on the plaintiff for having his case together because he
16:42had an almost insurmountable burden.
16:45I mean, it is very rare that we unwind a used car sale.
16:50But I think based on these facts and the facts that our own team uncovered about that car fax, which
16:56showed that the last reported odometer reading was almost twice as many miles as the defendants represented.
17:02So I have no problem with the $10,000 verdict.
17:04Oh, I have no problem with it either.
17:06I think that there were specific misrepresentations by the defendant to the plaintiff when he was making the purchase.
17:12I think that a lot of this was done way under the cover based on the timing of the whole
17:16situation, by the crying, the whole theatrics.
17:19But on the other hand, I think that what we were doing with the plaintiff is a lesson learned.
17:24You can't buy a used car at 930 at night, negotiating prices before you even see it, come across desperate
17:32because you want it,
17:33not verify the information that you're being given, that there was a mechanic that was warrantying the work that was
17:40done.
17:40So I think that our plaintiff, who might have been shooting from the hip on a lot of prior car
17:45sales, learned here the hard way that this was not the way to make a used car purchase.
17:51I don't care how cute, little, and young the seller appears to be.
17:56Sometimes looks are deceiving.
17:57And in this case, the truck looked good.
17:59She looked credible.
18:00But they were both being deceitful and lying.
18:03This is fraud at the inception.
18:04And when there's fraud at the inception, it's our job to unwind the deal.
18:09$10,000 seems fine.
18:15Court is back in session.
18:16All parties are reminded that you're still under oath.
18:18Thank you, Cassandra.
18:19You're welcome.
18:20We have deliberated and we have reached a unanimous verdict.
18:24First, thank you, sir, Mr. Afflein, for coming in and testifying and informing and enlightening the court as to the
18:32truth and the facts behind this case.
18:34But for your testimony, this case, and I think that you know this, sir, would have turned out much differently.
18:40You understand that?
18:41Yes, sir.
18:42Sure, honor.
18:42Now, Ms. Bogosian and Ms. Busser, I'm going to give you a little bit of free legal advice from a
18:48former district attorney.
18:49And I know that this is probably going to hit home to you because of where your dad is right
18:53now.
18:55What the two of you did was grand larceny by trick based upon the fraud that you committed by selling
19:03that truck and making material misrepresentations to fool an innocent purchaser.
19:09And you did it for money.
19:11And you, ma'am, as the mother, to act as a co-conspirator with your teenage child, if this case
19:19happened when she was 17 and the authorities found out about it, Child Protective Services would be involved.
19:24You'd be dealing with them.
19:26Now, you were suing for the jurisdictional maximum of $10,000.
19:30Here's the problem with that.
19:32You bought it for $15,000.
19:34You sold it for $6,000.
19:36That leaves $9,000, right?
19:39Yes, sir, honor.
19:39But the court has decided that based upon your egregious conduct, not just by committing fraud against him, but coming
19:48into this court and committing fraud on the court, that punitive damages are appropriate.
19:55$1,000.
19:56So, it is the unanimous verdict of this court.
19:59Judgment in favor of the plaintiff for $10,000.
20:02Good luck to you, sir.
20:03Do better.
20:05Thank you, Your Honor.
20:07Thank you so much.
20:07Just in case that's concluded, all parties are excused.
20:14The image of my daughter right now is very incorrect.
20:17She is a very honest human.
20:19Once I realized that I messaged her in and she just blocked me instantly, that it wasn't going to go
20:23that way.
20:23There was a lot of lies told in the courtroom today, and they were not by us.
20:27Verbal agreements should always be written down.
20:29We would have never ripped somebody off in that manner.
20:32Oh, I felt like I got stabbed in the stomach.
20:34Mr. Heflin was not very clear on the facts.
20:38I was trying to help.
20:39I gave him a discount, and it bit me in the ass.
20:42No.
20:43I'm glad it's over.
20:44She might sell used cars, but I will not.
20:47I will.
20:48Apple doesn't fall far from the tree.
20:50Have you been scammed?
20:52Let the majority rule in your favor on Tribunal Justice.
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