00:00Samantala, panukalang 4-day workweek sa pribadong sektor.
00:04Ating tatalakayin kasama si Atty. Leonard Constantine Serrano, Assistant Secretary at Tagapagsalita ng Department of Labor and Employment.
00:12Atty. Serrano, Asek, magandang tanghali po.
00:17Magandang tanghali, Joshua, at magandang tanghali po sa mga nakikinig at nanonood sa inyong programa.
00:22Asek, ano po ang kasulukuyang polisiya ng Department of Labor and Employment dito po sa panukalang 4-day workweek sa
00:28private sector?
00:29At, ano po, paano po yung magiging flexible arrangement nito?
00:35Opo, tama ka, Joshua, no?
00:38Ang kagawa rin po encourages itong sinasabi natin 4-day workweek sa private sector.
00:43As a matter of fact, Joshua, as early as 2004, mayroon na po tayong dole advisory na nagre-recognize at
00:54nagbibigay ng guidelines
00:56kung paano ba ma-implementa itong pinatawag nating 4-day workweek through a compressed workweek arrangement.
01:02And kasunod po nito, sometime in 2009 and 2010, nagkaroon na rin po ng mga karagdang dole advisories
01:10recognizing and giving guidelines sa mga flexible work arrangements.
01:15And kung maalala po nila, itong 2018, nagkaroon po tayo ng telecommuting act
01:21which was supplemented by Dole Department, Order 237 issued in 2022
01:28kung saan naman nare-recognize po natin ang pagpapatupad ng alternative work arrangements
01:35or tinatawag po natin work from home arrangements.
01:38So, ang kagawa rin po, Dole encourages itong mga ganitong setup
01:42but kailangan lang po natin ipaalalahanan itong arrangements ay dapat pag-usapan ng manggagawa at namubuhugnan.
01:52They should be voluntarily entered into based on mutual agreements reached.
01:59Okay. Well, ASIC, ayon po sa isang ulat, pinapayagan ng batas ang iba't ibang work rotation
02:05o yung skeletal framework, I believe, basta may agreement ang employer at empleado.
02:09Paano po pasisigurado natin ng Dole na magiging patas at voluntaryo
02:14yung ganitong kasunduan para sa mga manggagawa at hindi ito maaabuso ng iba?
02:21Joshua, base po sa ating guidelines, meron na po tayong reporting requirement
02:27kung saan ang mga agreements that would be reached by the parties should be submitted to Dole.
02:34At ating pong imamonitor po ang implementation ng mga ito
02:38at sinisigurado natin na tumatalima sila sa mga nakasaad sa labor code
02:45particular na ang tamang papasahod sa mga manggagawa
02:49at kanilang pagtanggap ng wages and wage-related benefits.
02:53Ito pong sinasabi natin, we encourage this, these setups are discussed
03:00kaya nga dapat ma-emphasize na this is voluntary in nature.
03:04At syempre po kapag pinag-uusapan yan, yung mga manggagawa at mga namumuhunan
03:09tinitignan nila kung ano ba ang dapat para sa kanila at kung ano ba ang dapat maprotektahan.
03:14Okay. Asik, dito po, maliban po doon sa work-from-home arrangement,
03:19may nabanggit din po sa ulat na maaaring pahabain yung daily working hours
03:23lampas sa walong oras para ma-compensate yung ipapasok doon o yung maawalang araw doon sa trabaho.
03:30Sa ganitong setup po, paano po masisiguro na hindi maapektuhan
03:34ang kalusugan at yung kapakanan ng mga empleyado?
03:39Yes, Joshua. Ang tawag naman natin dito ay compressed work week
03:43kung saan ang usual, sabihin natin ng usual working hours are 40 days, 40 hours in 5 days.
03:51Maaaring gawin po ito in 4 days.
03:54So yung 40 hours mo, i-co-compress mo into a 4-day work week
03:58kung saan necessarily magiging 10 hours per day.
04:02Ito mga ganitong setup, tinitignan po natin kung ano ba ang nature ng establishment
04:10o nature ng industry.
04:12Para matiyak po na dapat ang mga nagpapatupad ng ganitong work arrangement,
04:18tinitignan ang kapakanan, ang safety ng mga manggagawa.
04:22Kung kakayanin ba, wala bang masamang may dudulot
04:27ang ganitong extension of 2 hours in one day of work.
04:32So tatas po kasi yan from 8 to 10 hours.
04:35Kaya yan po ang tinitignan at binabantayan po natin.
04:38Dapat hindi po makompromise.
04:40Doon po tayo sa safety first ng manggagawa.
04:42Okay.
04:43Asik, balikan natin yung work from home arrangement.
04:45Yun nga po yung isang option na Monday hanggang Thursday
04:48na regular na trabaho
04:50at hybrid setup naman tuwing Friday.
04:53Now, from your perspective po,
04:54paano po ito practical na may patutupad,
04:56lalo na sa mga industriya
04:58na nangangailangan ng physical na presensya
05:00ng mga manggagawa?
05:03Yes, Joshua.
05:05Ito naman, itong flexible work arrangement
05:07ay nakikita po sa ating telecommuting act.
05:11Yung nang banggit po natin
05:12ng work from home arrangement.
05:13Again, ito pong arrangement na ito,
05:17titignan po kung ano ba ang nature of work,
05:20ano ba ang trabaho maaaring maiuwi
05:22at maaaring gawin sa bahay?
05:24Kasi tinitignan po natin,
05:26ang bawat sektor may kanyang distinctions, Joshua.
05:29At gaya na lang sabi mo,
05:31maaaring ang isang sektor
05:32hindi talaga maiuwi ang kanilang trabaho
05:35to maintain their productivity.
05:37Such as, kunwari, mining,
05:39meron in agriculture,
05:40manufacturing,
05:42mahihirapan,
05:43hindi po magiging produktibo
05:45kung yan ay through work from home setup.
05:48Kaya tinitignan po,
05:49that's why importante po ang diskusyon
05:51ng mga gawa at namumukunan
05:54kasi po sila po ang nakakaalam
05:56kung ano ba ang maaaring trabaho
06:00na maipasok sa ganitong setup.
06:03Pero ngunit, Joshua,
06:04mabanggit ko lang,
06:05in the discussions,
06:07in coming up with the criteria,
06:10kung ano ba ang pwedeng
06:12mapatupad through a work from home arrangement,
06:15kinay-kailangan po yung sinasabi natin
06:17fair treatment.
06:19Fair treatment,
06:20no discrimination as to who
06:22will be able to participate
06:26in the telecommuting program
06:29or arrangement.
06:30At isa pa,
06:31Joshua,
06:33dapat ang ma-recognize,
06:37wala rin bias against those
06:39who will be working from home
06:41as compared to working inside
06:45dun sa workplace ng employer.
06:48Kung baga,
06:49dapat pantay,
06:50patas ko ang mabibigay for work,
06:53the same work performed,
06:55same benefits,
06:56same wages ho.
06:58Okay.
06:59Now,
06:59dito po sa 4-Day Workweek,
07:01ASEC,
07:02pakipaliwanag po sa amin,
07:03paano po mababantayan
07:04o matitiyak ng dole
07:06na hindi mababawasan
07:08ng sahod at benepisyon
07:09sa job security
07:10ng mga manggagawa
07:10kasi ang dilema
07:12ng iba mga manggagawa
07:13is baka hindi sila
07:15sumahod ng tama
07:16pagka pumasok sila
07:17dun sa 4-Day Workweek
07:18o dun sa hybrid setup.
07:23Joshua,
07:24ito pong guidelines po natin
07:26ano yung mga nabangkit po kanina.
07:27Klaro po yan,
07:28nakalagay po dyan
07:29na in such flexible work arrangements,
07:33ito pong may tumilat pa
07:34ako tayo na
07:35non-diminution of benefits,
07:37hindi dapat bababa
07:38ang matatanggap
07:39ng manggagawa
07:41kumpara sa kanyang usual
07:43natatanggap
07:44sa normal work setup.
07:46Kaya po,
07:46nabanggit ko rin naman po kanina,
07:48meron pong
07:49reporting requirements
07:51po,
07:52binibigay po sa dole
07:53ang mga agreements
07:55that are rich
07:56na flexible work
07:59arrangements.
08:00Ano ko?
08:01At tinitiyak,
08:03tinitignan po natin ito
08:04at tinitiyak natin
08:05na dapat tumalima
08:06ang mga namumuhunan
08:08at ang kanilang mga
08:10arrangements
08:10are based on
08:12the existing
08:12rules,
08:13regulations,
08:14at kung ano
08:15ang nasasabi
08:16sa labor pool.
08:17May we ask
08:19for Dole's statement
08:20pagdating naman po
08:21dun sa pangamba
08:22ng ilang sektor
08:23na maaaring
08:25bumaba ang productivity
08:26o kaya naman
08:27sobrang mapagod
08:28ang mga empleyado
08:28dahil sa mas mahabang
08:29oras at trabaho
08:30sa bawat araw.
08:33Yung ganitong
08:35setup,
08:37Joshua,
08:37syempre,
08:39while we encourage it,
08:40we also
08:41want to maintain
08:43the productivity
08:43of the workers
08:46which redounds
08:47to the
08:47productivity
08:48of the establishment
08:49as a whole
08:50para tutuloy-tuloy
08:51ang employment
08:52ng mga magagawa.
08:54At gaya nga
08:55ng sinasabi natin,
08:57kaya nga
08:58importante talaga
08:59yung deliberations,
09:00discussions,
09:01consultations
09:02of the
09:02establishment
09:04and the workers
09:05para po sa kanila
09:06mga agreements
09:06talagang mapanatili po
09:09pati po yung
09:10productivity
09:10of the company.
09:12Kaya otherwise,
09:13baka naman po
09:14hindi na
09:16pumayag
09:17ang namumuhunan
09:18sa ganitong setup
09:18and they will
09:19opt to have a
09:20regular work
09:22arrangement
09:23with the regular
09:24workers.
09:24Nakikita po kasi
09:25natin,
09:26Joshua,
09:26dito sa mga
09:27ganitong setup,
09:28of course,
09:28there are some
09:29benefits
09:30that would be
09:31received by the
09:32workers and
09:33employers at the
09:34same time.
09:35Gaya po na
09:36reduction in the
09:37cost,
09:39overhead cost
09:40of the
09:40employers,
09:41at the same time
09:42sa mga
09:42magagawa naman,
09:43mababawasan nyo
09:44ang cost,
09:46daily cost nila
09:47that is related
09:48to going to work
09:51and the other
09:52expenses.
09:53And of course,
09:54though madadagdagan
09:55ng trabaho,
09:56maaari sa
09:58mga araw
09:59na papasok sila,
10:00magkakaroon po
10:01ng isang araw
10:02that they could
10:02use on their own,
10:03they could
10:03utilize
10:05their respective
10:06homes with
10:07their families.
10:08And at the
10:09same time,
10:09while they have
10:10this time to
10:11rest,
10:12it will also
10:13foster their,
10:15kumbaga,
10:16ma-enhance
10:16rin ang kanilang
10:17productivity
10:18when they go
10:19back to work
10:19again the next
10:20week.
10:21Okay.
10:21Asik,
10:21panguli na
10:22lamang po,
10:22ayon sa mga
10:23employer groups
10:24tulad ng
10:24Employers
10:25Confederation of
10:26the Philippines,
10:27hindi daw po
10:27dapat gawing
10:28compulsory
10:28ang ganitong
10:29sistema.
10:29Sa panig po
10:30ng Dole,
10:30maliban po dun
10:31sa dapat
10:32malinaw na
10:33magkasundo
10:34yung
10:34magagawa
10:35at yung
10:35employer,
10:36ano po
10:36ang rekomendasyon
10:37ninyo upang
10:38magkaroon ng
10:38balance sa
10:39negosyo at
10:40welfare o
10:41kapakanan
10:41ng mga
10:41magagawa?
10:44Opo,
10:45kaya nga
10:46ho tayo po
10:46sa
10:46aturan,
10:47encourage po
10:48tayo sa mga
10:49namamuhunan
10:49to sit down
10:51and discuss
10:52these
10:52arrangements
10:53with
10:54their
10:55employees.
10:56Kasi ho,
10:58gaya po na
10:58nasabi kanina,
10:59there really
10:59might be some
11:00establishments,
11:02industries or
11:02sectors that
11:03will not be
11:04able to
11:05implement
11:05a
11:06flexible
11:08work
11:08arrangement
11:08whether it
11:09be
11:09a compressed
11:10work week
11:11or a
11:12work from
11:12home
11:13setup
11:13sa ating
11:14telecommuting
11:14programs.
11:16Hindi naman
11:17po natin
11:17maipipilit
11:18ang
11:18manggagawa
11:19pati
11:20ang
11:20namumuhunan
11:21kung
11:21tingin nila
11:22hindi
11:22kakayanin
11:23ang ganitong
11:24setup.
11:25But
11:26at end of
11:26the day
11:27maganda po
11:27mapag-usapan
11:28po ito
11:29para po
11:29klarado po
11:30at the
11:30plant level.
11:31Okay,
11:31with that
11:32being said,
11:32mensahin nyo
11:33na lang po
11:33sa ating
11:34mga
11:34kababayan
11:35particular na
11:36sa mga
11:36manggagawa
11:37na nakatutok
11:37po sa ating
11:38ngayon.
11:38Asek.
11:40Sa ngalan po
11:41ng aming
11:42kalihim,
11:42si Sekretary
11:43Benvenido
11:43Ilaguesma,
11:44nakikisa po
11:45ang
11:47kagawaran
11:49sa mga
11:50ating
11:50mga
11:51magagawa
11:51sa mga
11:52kaganapan
11:53na maaring
11:55makaapekto
11:56sa ating
11:57employment.
11:58But
11:58rest
11:59assured,
11:59tayo po
12:00ay patuloy
12:01na nakikipag-ugnayan
12:02through the
12:04other
12:04government
12:05agencies,
12:06pati po
12:06sa private
12:07sector,
12:08para po
12:10mapanatili
12:10at matiyak
12:12ang kapakanan
12:12ng ating
12:13mga
12:13magagawa.
12:14Maraming
12:15maraming
12:15salamat po
12:16sa inyong
12:16oras
12:17at sa
12:17informasyon
12:17at
12:18at
12:18at
12:18at
12:18at
12:18at
12:18at
12:18at
12:18at
12:18at
12:19assistant
12:20secretary
12:21at
12:21tagapagsalita
12:21ng
12:22Dole.
12:23Thank you,
12:23ASEC.
12:24Salamat,
12:25Joshua.
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