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Host: Waseem Badami & Iqrar Ul Hassan.
Developments in Literacy [DIL].
Guest : Shahzad. chairperson of DIL.
Miss Sabeen Shiraz.
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00:17Thank you for joining us.
00:30and you have seen a package in the next segment,
00:32and you have seen a package,
00:35if you are aware of it,
00:36if you are aware of it.
00:37Yes, absolutely.
00:38It's a wonderful job.
00:39In the field of education,
00:40Developments in Literacy,
00:41the heart of 1997,
00:45it's a wonderful job.
00:47It's a wonderful job.
00:48Now, it's a wonderful thing.
00:49Few people probably know that
00:51there are 221 schools,
00:53which are in Pakistan,
00:54whether it's peaceful,
00:55whether it's free,
00:55whether it's free,
00:56whether it's free,
00:57where it's free.
00:59There's a place where it's free.
01:00There's a place where it's free.
01:01There's a place where it's free.
01:03There's a place where it's free.
01:04There's a place where it's free.
01:04What a lot.
01:05One, a lot.
01:06Yes.
01:07Recently,
01:08a Taliban from this government
01:10has also had a full bright scholarship.
01:14So,
01:15it's a wonderful job.
01:17This government has been given.
01:18We have been given.
01:19With us,
01:20Mr. Dada,
01:21you are Chairperson of Developments in Literacy.
01:23And Miss Sabine Shiraz,
01:25you are President of this government.
01:27Thank you so much.
01:28Thank you very much.
01:29Thank you for your work.
01:30And your work for your support.
01:31First of all,
01:32tell me,
01:32what year has been kept?
01:35I told you,
01:35I've told you,
01:36who has kept it?
01:37And what was the need of this government?
01:41So,
01:42our founding members are Fiza Shah.
01:45She is an American-based Pakistani.
01:47Their vision was that in Pakistan,
01:49their wish was that
01:51children have studied and education
01:53but
01:53quality education
01:55and she strongly believed
01:56and we all strongly believe,
01:58which is a very strong message
01:59I want to put forward,
02:01that education is a very strong,
02:02a strong tool for your life
02:06to change your life.
02:07That's true.
02:07For your life to change your life.
02:09And if you have a quality education,
02:10there are also programs that you write
02:13about everything in Pakistan.
02:15But if you have a quality education,
02:17there is a lot of difference
02:18in your life to change your life.
02:20And if a child's life changed,
02:23then obviously it changes
02:24the whole society.
02:25I've seen a good fact.
02:27I've seen that 75% of kids
02:30are under the education of schools.
02:32Correct.
02:33That's right.
02:33That's really a great thing.
02:34If a child is a child,
02:35a child is a child,
02:36we always say that
02:37that it goes to a whole
02:38life of education.
02:40Sir,
02:42again,
02:43we always say that
02:44that because this way
02:44the government
02:45is not on a local road,
02:48not on a defense,
02:48not on a clifton,
02:49that we come and see them.
02:51We work on such places
02:53that where the need
02:54is needed.
02:54There are a lot of areas
02:55that have to be in the streets.
02:56There are a lot of areas
02:57that have to be in the streets.
02:59We don't see the big boards
03:01or these buildings
03:02that don't look at them.
03:03But the work is very peaceful.
03:05So tell us
03:07what kind of administration is going
03:08to be working?
03:09Who are the people
03:09who support it?
03:10From the people's help?
03:12I think about this structure
03:12about it.
03:14In the name of Allah,
03:15the peace of Allah.
03:15First of all,
03:16thank you very much for this
03:17and your host.
05:46I'm a banker, so I'm very excited about some of the things that the teams are working
05:51on.
05:51But our purpose is to use a leverage model, use the already in place infrastructure.
05:58You know, a lot of government schools, you show them, you know.
06:05So I think our whole game right now is how do we adopt the schools and all the provinces
06:11are really supporting us.
06:12And we are adopting those schools, we are making them technology-enabled, and we are making
06:16sure that they have the right tools and the right way of teaching, so the children are
06:21really learning something when they get out.
06:24And that's the proof that our dropout rate is almost 2.7 percent, the dropout rate is
06:3033 percent.
06:31Okay.
06:32So people who come to our school, who pretty much…
06:34So people who come to our school, who come to our school, and then they go on to colleges.
06:41And as you mentioned, one of them went to Harvard.
06:43All right.
06:44What is this?
06:44You should add something.
06:45Yes, I wanted to add something.
06:46I wanted to add something.
06:47When the schools adopt, the government schools, it happens that even the KG students, they
06:55have to do multiple classes when they go to school.
06:57They adopt like they teach curriculum, curricular programs, library set up, computer programs
07:04set up.
07:05So we set up everything.
07:06But it becomes so popular because it is so engaging.
07:09Okay.
07:09And I will add that life skill is a very important thing that our kids need to learn.
07:16Yeah.
07:16Obviously they are coming from the background that their parents don't know how to tell.
07:21How to tell.
07:21How to tell.
07:23Maths.
07:23Or you have to become a doctor.
07:25So a mandatory subject period is your life skill.
07:29So all the children, if they have like a stress…
07:31That's interesting.
07:32You know, children are developing brains, you are stressed, you are learning what you like,
07:35what you don't like, you are figuring it out.
07:36So teachers, mentors, systems, they all have a class.
07:41So what happens to them is that they have confidence.
07:44Communication skills.
07:45You will have a half battle there.
07:46That you can explain yourself to others.
07:48Or you have to know that you have to go to which college.
07:50Or what you have to learn.
07:52I think the most important thing is that we all…
07:55For example, I studied medical for 12-15 years.
07:57And I started this job.
07:59So if I have studied social sciences, I have helped me.
08:03So our children are spending 10-12-15 years in their lives.
08:06They are studying and doing things in their lives.
08:09Also to be able to communicate.
08:10I think education is a start-up.
08:13But to be able to communicate, to have those life skills are so important.
08:17Yes.
08:17Absolutely right.
08:17Tell me, which areas are there.
08:20I have initially said that.
08:21Because these areas, they have put on the main chalk or chalk.
08:26They have not put on the main chalk.
08:27They have not put on the main chalk.
08:27They have come and see that they are doing a good job.
08:29Because areas are such that they are not in our eyes.
08:32So that's why I feel that there is not much more work.
08:35So tell me, which areas of schools are in schools.
08:37So in areas of schools, like it's in Sindh, Punjab.
08:41Khaibir Pakhtunkhwa.
08:43And how we, we work in clusters.
08:45Because obviously for the teachers to commute between areas is difficult.
08:49So in Karachi and Rangi town.
08:51So there are those clusters of schools so that teachers can commute.
08:54Right.
08:55Can commute.
08:55Yeah.
08:56And also what teachers, we, a lot of the, a lot of the times they are, they are teachers.
09:01So, please.
09:02Again, our purpose is to go wherever else goes.
09:06Exactly.
09:07Do the thing.
09:08And especially, as you mentioned, 76% of our student body is females.
09:13We are very focused on empowering the girls and ensuring.
09:16And typically this happens, sir.
09:18That children, they allow for five crates.
09:22Just as they come to puberty age, or six, seven, they don't allow for them.
09:28Because of a number of reasons.
09:29And we all know that.
09:30And in these kinds of reasons, there are problems.
09:32And you have done a lot of shows on this topic.
09:34So that's where we try to create a very conducive environment, safe environment.
09:38And they focus on it.
09:40And Rangi town, like Sabine gave us a example.
09:43There we have a large cluster of schools in Karachi.
09:46We have a large cluster of schools.
09:48We have a large cluster of schools.
09:49We have a large cluster of schools.
09:49All over the places which are not in the line line.
09:53Not the defense and the Clifton.
09:54Exactly.
09:54Not the burger crowds.
09:56And it doesn't look like that, right?
09:58The work is a lot more.
09:58Otherwise, it's the roads.
09:59Okay.
10:00The closest thing to my heart is that I have 75% ratio.
10:04I mean, is this intentionally done?
10:07Or...
10:07Exactly.
10:09This was all by design.
10:10It's not that we don't say children.
10:12Yes.
10:12We try to encourage more.
10:14We try to encourage more.
10:15And we look at the problems of why the boys drop out.
10:19And one thing is that up to class 6,
10:23there are schools in the areas.
10:24When you go to high school,
10:26the schools are too low.
10:28Especially if you're in rural Pakistan.
10:31You have to transport them there.
10:33And you have to go maybe two, three miles away.
10:37And that's where the parents become very reluctant to send their young daughters to it.
10:42So, that's why the drop out rate is very low.
10:52And the college going students also.
10:54So, if you look at how many colleges go from our schools.
10:58That's almost 75%.
11:00Right.
11:00I mean, it's not like that.
11:02So, what does that happen?
11:03Because, obviously, their ultimate resources are very low.
11:07So, does it help them in that way?
11:10Or, again, in their mind, they have to prepare them for college to continue?
11:27Yeah.
11:27So, we are offering them interactive tools.
11:30Chrome computer.
11:31You should talk about it.
11:33Yeah.
11:33You should talk about it.
11:34Yeah.
11:34We are offering them all on their doorsteps.
11:37And free of cost.
11:39So, what's happening is that,
11:41children are enjoying what they are doing.
11:45And on that basis, they want to learn more.
11:48And they want to learn more.
11:48And then when they see a girl like Arfin getting into Harvard,
11:52or other girls getting into some of the other top universities all over the world,
11:56they want to learn more.
11:58What's the matter?
11:58This is a very wonderful thing.
12:00You mentioned drop-out 2.7, right?
12:03Yes.
12:03It's a great success.
12:05And again,
12:0675% of children are continuing in university or college.
12:09So, that means that the mission, the goal is to fulfill...
12:13And if I can cut in.
12:15Please, please.
12:16AI-enabled, just for our viewers to understand,
12:20that there is an AI app.
12:22We download that app for children in school.
12:24All the kids.
12:26And they are an AI tutor.
12:28You can ask them,
12:29I have to say this in English,
12:30I have to say this in English,
12:31I have to say this in his accent.
12:31So, you go home and practice.
12:33So, to make that...
12:35The tutor tells you,
12:36Math problem is,
12:36I have to solve math problem.
12:38So, it's not like you have a tuition center,
12:40like our kids go to tuition.
12:42They have their own AI tutor.
12:44They have invested heavily in their life,
12:46which is a brilliant thing.
12:47They have all the kids.
12:49This is...
12:49This is...
12:50In fact, that will be one of our asks,
12:53to all the donors,
12:54who are you through there.
12:54Yes.
12:55I wanted to talk about that,
12:56that they have a phone or a smartphone.
13:00Given the tablets,
13:01and they have the Chromebooks.
13:02This is what Dil provides.
13:04That's nice.
13:04That's nice.
13:05Sir, another thing that we have focused on,
13:08is the teachers.
13:10Look...
13:11And our...
13:11You will endorse this.
13:14If you give one woman,
13:16it will impact the whole household.
13:19This is true about anything.
13:22I mean, they really can make...
13:23And that's why I focus on girls.
13:25And then, if you go into teachers,
13:27you will see...
13:29If we train a teacher,
13:31that will impact probably...
13:3250 students.
13:35So, that's where we are doing tech enabling to them.
13:38And telling them...
13:39When they come,
13:40they know exactly...
13:41Student progress.
13:42Teacher monitoring systems.
13:44They know exactly...
13:45Which student is at the stage.
13:47So, to adjust the curriculum.
13:50How to teach them better.
13:51Everything through a very, very sophisticated...
13:54Systems that are available all over the world.
13:57And in modern schools, they're available.
13:59But they're not available to these...
14:02Government schools.
14:03Or to these...
14:04Schools that we are running.
14:05But we have made them.
14:06And now, we are offering them to other...
14:08Edharas...
14:09Who are like us.
14:10Because Pakistan education is very low.
14:13Unfortunately.
14:13As much as the heart...
14:17Viewers...
14:17My request is to support them.
14:20Pakistan's solution is education.
14:22That's true.
14:22And...
14:23If you tell any problem...
14:24If you highlight any issue...
14:27If you highlight any issue...
14:27The ultimate answer is...
14:28That it is to work on training.
14:30Absolutely.
14:30I always say that...
14:31We are doing a lot of things.
14:32For example...
14:33You give money...
14:34For example...
14:36You...
14:36You eat food.
14:38They're all different.
14:39But...
14:39If you study a child...
14:41Then...
14:41It's probably...
14:44A good education changes your life.
14:45So, TEAL...
14:46Our program is...
14:47That's digitally enabled...
14:49To the students...
14:50We provide all that.
14:51But furthermore...
14:52Now...
14:52We have said...
14:55A whole program...
14:57Device...
14:58Some of the best...
14:59Best minds...
15:00All over the world.
15:01What about it?
15:01We got somebody...
15:03To do it for free...
15:04From America.
15:05Yes.
15:05He's been very, very supportive.
15:07Also a Pakistani.
15:07And also a Pakistani.
15:09And now we are...
15:10In the testing mode.
15:11And we are taking...
15:12Our government schools...
15:13And we are taking...
15:14And we are taking...
15:15And we are taking...
15:15And we are taking...
15:16And we are taking...
15:17And we are taking...
15:17And we are taking...
15:19And we are taking...
15:20Everything will be done...
15:22On an AI based...
15:23Model.
15:24And that's...
15:24Will be applied...
15:25In government schools.
15:26This is very wonderful...
15:28In listening...
15:28And again...
15:29Those who are watching...
15:30I feel that...
15:30They will inspire...
15:32This whole story...
15:33And the government...
15:35Contact...
15:35Details...
15:36You can...
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15:39I am sure...
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15:42We can also...
15:43And we will request...
15:44Please...
15:45Very generously...
15:46Definitely...
15:47You are donating...
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15:56Of course...
15:56I am sure...
15:57I am sure...
15:57I am sure...
15:58I am sure...
15:58I am sure...
15:58I am sure...
16:00I am sure...
16:29A big change...
16:32And these girls...
16:33And boys...
16:34Are going to be...
16:35The future...
16:35And these...
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