The Karski Report 2010

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00:02But I reported what I saw.

00:31Je me souviens de l'intense émotion qui me submergea lorsque je compris, au cours d'un des voyages exploratoires

00:39préludant à la réalisation de Shoah, que Jan Karski était vivant.

00:44J'avais lu Story of Secret State, paru en 1944 aux États-Unis, ouvrage dans lequel il racontait ses périlleuses

00:52missions de courrier entre la résistance intérieure polonaise et le gouvernement polonais en exil à Londres,

01:00ses visites au ghetto de Varsovie, les requêtes désespérées des leaders juifs de Pologne,

01:05les quelques heures d'épouvante qu'il avait passé déguisé en garde ukrainien dans un camp de transit qui n

01:13'a pu être identifié avec certitude, longtemps et à tort considéré par lui comme le camp d'extermination de Belzec.

01:21« Vivant, Karski eut été pour le film que j'entreprenais un témoin capital.

01:28Mais, dès le commencement de mon travail, j'étais si hanté par l'immensité et la réalité de la destruction

01:35que je me persuadais intérieurement que tout le monde,

01:39les victimes, les témoins, les bourreaux eux-mêmes, avaient péri.

01:43Ce furent des années de folie.

01:45Ce qu'on appelait alors l'Holocauste était une tabula rasa,

01:50et chaque fois que je découvrais un vivant,

01:53c'était pour moi une exhumation bouleversante,

01:56comme lorsque les archéologues rencontrent une rare pièce maîtresse

02:00après de longs mois d'un obscur et patient travail de fouille.

02:05Ainsi, Karski vivait.

02:08L'émotion se redoubla quand je le vis,

02:10puis quand je commençais à tourner avec lui.

02:14La guerre terminée, Karski avait disparu de la scène publique,

02:19et pendant des décennies, une chape de silence étouffa l'Holocauste laissée aux seules mains des spécialistes.

02:27Quarante ans plus tard, en 1985, la sortie de mon film « Shoah »

02:32ressuscita Karski pour chacun de nous,

02:36l'inscrivant dans l'histoire et dans l'esprit objectif.

02:40J'ai tourné avec Karski pendant deux jours entiers,

02:43chez lui, à Washington, en 1978.

02:47Je n'ai intégré à Shoah que la première journée,

02:51laissant seulement Karski dire à la fin de son récit,

02:54« But I reported what I saw, mais j'ai fait mon rapport sur ce que j'avais vu. »

03:00Karski me disait ainsi qu'il avait accompli sa mission,

03:05réussissant à passer de Varsovie à Londres.

03:07Le gouvernement polonais décida qu'il devait se rendre aux États-Unis

03:11et répéter là-bas, devant les plus hautes instances du pouvoir, ce qu'il avait à dire.

03:17Au cours de la deuxième journée de tournage,

03:21Karski a exposé devant ma caméra

03:23tous les détails de sa rencontre avec le président Roosevelt,

03:27pour des raisons proprement artistiques de tension dramatique,

03:31au point où j'en étais de la construction de mon film,

03:35parce que celui-ci aurait été trop long,

03:38parce que Karski lui-même se montrait le deuxième jour,

03:41très différent de ce qu'il avait été le premier,

03:44j'avais choisi de laisser de côté tous ces passages.

03:48C'est pourtant une partie de ceux-là,

03:51en particulier la rencontre entre Karski et Roosevelt,

03:55que vous allez voir dans un instant.

03:57J'en ai décidé ainsi,

03:59car il m'a semblé absolument nécessaire de rétablir la vérité.

04:04Karski, dans le récit qu'il nous donne des réactions

04:07de ses divers interlocuteurs anglais et américains,

04:11nous fait éprouver une question centrale,

04:14dans toute sa gravité.

04:16Qu'est-ce que savoir ?

04:18Qu'est-ce qu'une information sur une horreur à la lettre inouïe

04:23peut signifier pour un cerveau humain impréparé à la recevoir,

04:28car il s'agissait d'un crime sans précédent dans l'histoire des hommes ?

04:34Quoi qu'on en dise,

04:35la majorité des Juifs,

04:37une fois commencée la guerre que leur livrait Hitler,

04:41ne pouvait pas être sauvée ?

04:43Tel est le tragique de l'histoire,

04:45qui interdit l'illusion rétrospective,

04:48oublieuse de l'épaisseur,

04:50des pesanteurs,

04:51de l'illisibilité d'une époque,

04:54configuration vraie de l'impossible.

04:57On demandait à Raymond Aron,

05:00réfugié à Londres,

05:01s'il avait su alors ce qui se passait à l'Est.

05:05Il répondait,

05:06j'ai su,

05:07mais je ne l'ai pas cru.

05:09Et puisque je ne l'ai pas cru,

05:11je ne l'ai pas su.

05:16Prof. Kersky,

05:18vous savez que le sujet de ce film

05:21est la destruction des Juifs européens,

05:24le Holocaust.

05:26Je voudrais savoir,

05:27entre tous les leaders politiques politiques

05:30à qui vous avez envoyé votre report,

05:34avez-vous la chance

05:35de mentionner

05:38spécifiquement

05:39le problème jewish?

05:43Je voudrais savoir,

05:44qu'est-ce que vous avez pu dire

05:45pour parler de ce film ?

05:47Qui était intéressé ?

05:49Comment ils étaient intéressés ?

05:50Je comprends.

05:50Comment ils réactaient ?

05:53Je comprends.

05:55Le sujet de ce film,

05:57que vous avez fait,

05:59vous espérons que

06:00il sera peut-être montré.

06:02Probablement la deuxième partie.

06:04Vous voulez avoir

06:06testimonies,

06:07entrevues

06:08pour des historiques

06:09ou pour des archives.

06:12Donc, je comprends.

06:14Je dois être très précis.

06:16And now,

06:17I am asking you

06:19to bear with me

06:22and to understand

06:23my possibilities

06:26and my mission

06:28in the so-called

06:29Western Free World.

06:32Dealing with the

06:34Polish government leaders,

06:37political leaders,

06:39Polish Jewish leaders.

06:42Because of the nature

06:44of my mission,

06:46I traveled,

06:48as you know,

06:48several times,

06:50because within

06:51the statute

06:52of my mission

06:53was I was

06:54going back

06:55to Poland.

06:57I was a

06:58very important man.

06:59I was a hero.

07:03Everything

07:04was at my disposal.

07:05I met

07:06the most

07:07important men.

07:10They catered

07:12to me.

07:14I

07:15could

07:16to whomever

07:18I spoke,

07:20I could tell them

07:21I didn't finish.

07:23I have more

07:24to say.

07:26On many occasions

07:29I had such

07:31a situation

07:32with General

07:33Sikorsky,

07:34whom I saw

07:34at least

07:35five times.

07:37General,

07:37I didn't finish

07:38yet.

07:40He would say,

07:41Lieutenant,

07:43my secretary

07:44will inform you

07:45when I will

07:45be free for you.

07:48So with

07:49the Polish

07:50side of

07:51my mission,

07:52I had

07:53great possibilities

07:54to report.

07:56And I did

07:56the report.

07:59Now,

08:00you are

08:01asking me

08:02the second

08:03part of

08:03my report.

08:05We have

08:06to make

08:07a distinction

08:07now.

08:09With

08:10the

08:10English

08:12or

08:13American

08:16certain

08:17political

08:18leaders

08:20like

08:20Jewish

08:21leaders,

08:22oh yes,

08:22they listen

08:23to me.

08:24They let

08:24me

08:25report.

08:26With

08:28those great

08:30intellectual

08:31leaders,

08:32poets,

08:33writers,

08:34etc.

08:35Well,

08:36frankly,

08:37I felt

08:37free.

08:39And I would

08:40sort of say

08:41press myself.

08:43Still,

08:43there is more.

08:44Still,

08:44I want you

08:45to know more.

08:46H.G.

08:46Wells,

08:47Kessler,

08:48this kind of

08:48people.

08:49Now,

08:52speaking about

08:54government

08:56leaders

08:58in Great

09:00Britain

09:01and the

09:01United

09:02States,

09:04I

09:05met

09:06all of

09:07them

09:08as a result

09:10of the

09:10Polish

09:11government,

09:12usually

09:13prime

09:13ministers,

09:15request

09:15in London,

09:18prime

09:19minister

09:19asked them

09:20to see

09:21some

09:22recently

09:23arrived

09:24agent

09:24from the

09:25Polish

09:26underground

09:27and his

09:28report

09:29might be

09:30of interest

09:31to his

09:32majesty

09:33government

09:33or to

09:34that

09:35particular

09:36minister

09:37or

09:39government

09:40leader.

09:41In the

09:41United

09:42States,

09:43it was

09:44the

09:44ambassador,

09:45of course,

09:45everything

09:46was in

09:46his

09:47hands.

09:48Now,

09:48you must

09:49realize,

09:50at that

09:50time,

09:51I was

09:52not

09:53allowed

09:54to have

09:55any

09:55contacts.

09:56I had

09:57to report

09:57to the

09:59proper

09:59offices

10:00every

10:01man

10:02I met.

10:03I was

10:04free

10:04to go

10:05to a

10:05theater,

10:06to a

10:06nightclub,

10:07to dinner.

10:08I had

10:09plenty

10:09of money,

10:10of course,

10:10to buy

10:11myself

10:11new

10:12clothes,

10:12whatsoever.

10:14I could

10:14not

10:15have

10:15contacts

10:16on my

10:16own

10:17initiative,

10:18only

10:18as

10:19instructed,

10:20you are

10:21going to

10:21see such

10:22and such

10:23a leader.

10:24The

10:24same

10:24in the

10:25United

10:25States,

10:26of course,

10:27I lived

10:27in the

10:27embassy,

10:28I was

10:28not

10:28allowed

10:29to

10:29live

10:29in

10:30any,

10:30to

10:30take

10:31any

10:31hotel,

10:32I

10:32lived

10:32all

10:32the

10:33time

10:33on

10:33the

10:34premises.

10:35And

10:36how

10:37did

10:37it

10:37happen

10:37with

10:37Roosevelt?

10:38With

10:38President

10:39Roosevelt.

10:44I

10:44must,

10:45well,

10:46Polish

10:47ambassador

10:48in

10:48Washington

10:50was

10:51informed

10:52about

10:52my

10:53existence

10:54in

10:54London.

10:57Before

10:58coming

10:59to

11:00London,

11:01I didn't

11:02expect to

11:02go to

11:03the

11:03United

11:03States.

11:05Now,

11:06it was

11:06the

11:06Polish

11:07ambassador

11:08who

11:09in

11:09his

11:10reports

11:11to

11:11the

11:12prime

11:12minister

11:13suggested

11:14he

11:16thinks

11:17that

11:18it

11:18may

11:19be

11:19useful

11:20if

11:21before

11:22returning

11:22to

11:23Poland,

11:24Karski

11:25will

11:26come

11:26secretly

11:27to

11:27the

11:27United

11:27States.

11:29The

11:29ambassador

11:30is

11:31pretty

11:32sure

11:32he

11:33will

11:33get

11:34him

11:34in

11:35touch

11:35with

11:36the

11:36key

11:37members

11:38of

11:38the

11:38government

11:39and

11:39the

11:39proper

11:40people.

11:42He

11:42hopes

11:43the

11:45president

11:45himself

11:47will

11:48be

11:48interested

11:49in

11:49his

11:50report.

11:51Once

11:51we

11:51received

11:52this

11:53report,

11:53General

11:54Sikorski

11:55tells

11:55me,

11:55Lieutenant,

11:56you

11:56go to

11:57Washington

11:57before

11:58you

11:58go to

11:58Poland.

11:59I

12:00arrived

12:00to

12:01Washington.

12:02Ambassador

12:02Chechanowski

12:03already

12:04totally

12:05acquainted

12:06with

12:06my

12:07material.

12:08I

12:09stay

12:09at

12:09the

12:09embassy

12:10as

12:10you

12:10can

12:10imagine.

12:11Every

12:12morning,

12:12every

12:13evening

12:13we

12:14talk

12:14about

12:15what

12:16happened

12:16in

12:17Poland.

12:19The

12:19most,

12:20by

12:20the

12:20way,

12:21intimate

12:21talks

12:22were

12:23when

12:23there

12:24was

12:24a

12:24sort

12:24of

12:25a

12:25ritual

12:25in

12:26the

12:27evening

12:27after

12:28dinner

12:29before

12:30going

12:30to

12:31bed

12:31the

12:32ambassador

12:32would

12:33walk

12:33his

12:34dog.

12:35Kruczek.

12:37I

12:38would

12:39walk

12:39the

12:39ambassador

12:40he

12:40always

12:41invited

12:41me

12:42Johnny

12:43come

12:44with

12:45me.

12:45Then

12:45we

12:45would

12:46again

12:46most

12:47intimate

12:47even

12:48Madame

12:49Chechanoska.

12:50She

12:51may

12:51see

12:51this

12:52film.

12:52She

12:52lives

12:53now

12:53in

12:53Belgium.

12:54Even

12:55she

12:55was

12:55not

12:55present.

12:56And

12:56then

12:57sometimes

12:57his

12:58worries

12:58and

12:59his

12:59fears

12:59and

13:00all

13:00this.

13:00At

13:02a

13:02certain

13:02point

13:03he

13:03tells

13:04me

13:04Johnny

13:05listen

13:07the

13:08president

13:09of

13:10the

13:10United

13:11States

13:12wishes

13:13to

13:13see

13:13you.

13:15Now

13:16he

13:16briefs

13:17me.

13:18As a

13:19matter

13:19of

13:19fact

13:20all

13:21the

13:21time

13:21he

13:22was

13:23criticizing

13:23me

13:24on

13:24one

13:24point

13:25mainly

13:26Johnny

13:27you

13:28are

13:29inclined

13:30you

13:30talk

13:31too

13:31much

13:32you

13:33must

13:34acquire

13:36precision

13:36you

13:37have

13:37precision

13:38to

13:38be

13:38concise

13:39you

13:40realize

13:41people

13:41I

13:42am

13:42going

13:42to

13:43introduce

13:43you

13:44they

13:45are

13:45the

13:45most

13:46powerful

13:46people

13:47Poland

13:48is

13:48minor

13:49concern

13:49for

13:50them

13:50they

13:51have

13:51the

13:51whole

13:52war

13:52they

13:53wage

13:53this

13:53war

13:54so

13:55be

13:55careful

13:58concise

13:59precision

14:00concentrate

14:02rather

14:02on

14:03their

14:04questions

14:04try to

14:05answer

14:06the

14:06questions

14:07president

14:08comes

14:08he

14:10gives me

14:10the

14:10same

14:10briefing

14:11now

14:12you

14:13be

14:13careful

14:14you

14:15are

14:15going

14:16to

14:16see

14:16the

14:18most

14:18powerful

14:19men

14:19on

14:20this

14:20globe

14:22this

14:23man

14:24evidently

14:25is

14:26busy

14:26he

14:27thinks

14:28in

14:28terms

14:31of

14:32the

14:32war

14:32of

14:33humanity

14:34Roosevelt

14:35had

14:36this

14:36inclination

14:37which

14:37ambassador

14:38Chechanowski

14:39instructed

14:40we

14:41have

14:41a

14:41president

14:42he

14:43thinks

14:44in

14:44terms

14:45he

14:45thinks

14:46after

14:47this

14:47war

14:48the

14:48human

14:49race

14:49will

14:51be

14:51organized

14:52in

14:52such

14:52a

14:53way

14:53no

14:53more

14:54wars

14:54and

14:55he

14:55will

14:56play

14:56the

14:57key

14:57role

14:58in

14:59this

14:59arrangement

15:01so

15:02again

15:03be

15:04brief

15:04be

15:05concise

15:06I

15:07am

15:08not

15:08going

15:08to

15:09take

15:09part

15:09in

15:10the

15:10conversation

15:12I

15:12will

15:13go

15:13with

15:13you

15:14as

15:15required

15:16by

15:16diplomatic

15:17protocol

15:18I

15:19have

15:19to

15:19certify

15:20your

15:20veracity

15:21introduce

15:22you

15:23to

15:23the

15:23president

15:24then

15:24I

15:24will

15:25sit

15:25quiet

15:27so

15:27don't

15:28rely

15:28on

15:28me

15:28I

15:29will

15:29be

15:29unable

15:30to

15:30help

15:30you

15:31in

15:31any

15:31way

15:31it

15:32may

15:33be

15:33that

15:34the

15:34president

15:35will

15:35ask

15:36me

15:36a

15:37question

15:37then

15:38I

15:39will

15:39answer

15:40his

15:40question

15:41so

15:41I

15:42don't

15:42know

15:42how

15:42the

15:43conversation

15:43will

15:44develop

15:44I

15:45don't

15:45know

15:45how

15:46long

15:46you

15:46will

15:46stay

15:47with

15:47the

15:47president

15:47only

15:49you

15:49are

15:49on

15:49your

15:49own

15:50and

15:50now

15:51be

15:51wise

15:52with

15:53this

15:53kind

15:53of

15:54briefing

15:56limousine

15:57of course

15:58whatsoever

15:59brings us

16:00to the

16:00White House

16:02ambassador

16:03punctual

16:04president

16:05punctual

16:06secretary

16:07leads me

16:08to his

16:10office

16:11I

16:12see

16:13Roosevelt

16:16he

16:17looked

16:18like

16:18a

16:19world

16:19leader

16:20like

16:21a

16:21world

16:22leader

16:23yes

16:23as a

16:24matter

16:24of

16:24fact

16:25he

16:25struck

16:25me

16:26he

16:26was

16:26more

16:27than

16:27the

16:27president

16:28of

16:28the

16:28United

16:29States

16:29his

16:30formulations

16:31his

16:32gestures

16:33he did

16:34consider

16:35himself

16:36a

16:36world

16:37leader

16:38he

16:39sits

16:39behind

16:40his

16:41desk

16:42behind

16:43him

16:44of course

16:44all

16:45American

16:45flags

16:46you know

16:47very

16:47impressive

16:48the

16:48whole

16:49wall

16:49covered

16:51covered

16:51by

16:51them

16:52very

16:52high

16:53chair

16:55grand

16:56senior

16:58because

16:59I was

16:59warned

16:59he will

17:00not

17:00get up

17:01when

17:01he

17:01would

17:02shake

17:02your

17:02hand

17:03he's

17:03crippled

17:06shakes

17:06hand

17:07please

17:09sit

17:10down

17:10mr

17:11rambas

17:14says

17:15mr

17:16karski

17:19I

17:20know

17:21about

17:21you

17:23I

17:25have

17:25been

17:25informed

17:26about

17:27your

17:27great

17:29work

17:30contribution

17:31to

17:32the

17:32allied

17:33cause

17:34I

17:36am

17:36sure

17:37that

17:38you

17:38would

17:39like

17:39me

17:39to

17:40be

17:40informed

17:41about

17:41things

17:42in

17:43Poland

17:44please

17:47now

17:49realize

17:50this

17:50I

17:51had

17:51it

17:51throughout

17:52my

17:52entire

17:53mission

17:53for

17:54me

17:55the

17:55jewish

17:56problem

17:56was

17:56not

17:57the

17:57only

17:57problem

17:59for

18:00me

18:00the

18:01key

18:01problem

18:02was

18:03Poland

18:07kars

18:08online

18:08Soviet

18:09demands

18:10communists

18:11in the

18:11underground

18:12movement

18:13fear

18:14of the

18:14Polish

18:15nation

18:15what

18:16is

18:16going

18:16to

18:17happen

18:17to

18:18Poland

18:18this

18:20was

18:20the

18:21emphasis

18:21of

18:22your

18:23mission

18:23yes

18:24my

18:25mission

18:26of course

18:26and my

18:26concern

18:27naturally

18:29I

18:30speak

18:31to the

18:31present

18:32in those

18:32terms

18:33expectations

18:35fears

18:36among

18:37the

18:37leaders

18:37all

18:39hope

18:40mr

18:41president

18:42has

18:43been

18:44placed

18:44by

18:45the

18:45Polish

18:46nations

18:46in

18:48the

18:48hands

18:49of

18:50Franklin

18:51Dela

18:51Roosevelt

18:54you

18:55said

18:55this

18:56in

18:57proper

18:57words

18:58oh

18:58yes

18:58in

18:59the

18:59same

18:59words

18:59not

19:00the

19:00president

19:00Franklin

19:01Dela

19:02Roosevelt

19:02he

19:04sits

19:06I

19:07describe

19:07thinking

19:09how much

19:11time

19:11I

19:11have

19:11he

19:13sits

19:13then I

19:14come

19:15to

19:15the

19:15Jewish

19:16problem

19:16mr

19:18president

19:20before

19:21having

19:21left

19:22Poland

19:22I

19:24was

19:24charged

19:25with

19:27this

19:27mission

19:28by

19:29the

19:29most

19:31important

19:31Jewish

19:32leaders

19:33they

19:34organized

19:35for

19:35me

19:36two

19:36visits

19:37in

19:38the

19:38ghetto

19:38I

19:39saw

19:41extermination

19:43camp

19:44the

19:45name

19:45is

19:45Belzec

19:46B

19:47E

19:48L

19:48Z

19:49E

19:49C

19:52Mr

19:53President

19:54the

19:55situation

19:56is

19:56horrible

19:57the

19:58point

19:58is

19:59without

20:00the

20:01outside

20:02help

20:03the

20:05Jews

20:05will

20:05perish

20:06in

20:08Poland

20:08he

20:10entered

20:11I

20:12remember

20:12every

20:13second

20:14of

20:14this

20:15conversation

20:17the

20:18allied

20:19nations

20:20what

20:22did

20:22answer

20:22specifically

20:23nothing

20:24he

20:24enters

20:24the

20:25picture

20:25now

20:25nothing

20:27this

20:27was

20:28the

20:28end

20:28of

20:28your

20:28report

20:29yes

20:29it

20:31came

20:31at

20:31the

20:31end

20:32the

20:32Jewish

20:33I

20:34never

20:34had

20:34chance

20:35so

20:36now

20:36his

20:37answer

20:37the

20:38allied

20:38nations

20:39are

20:41going

20:41to

20:42win

20:42this

20:43war

20:45no

20:46more

20:47wars

20:49justice

20:50will

20:51be

20:51done

20:52man

20:52your

20:54country

20:55will

20:55be

20:56alive

20:56again

20:57more

20:58prosperous

20:59than

21:00before

21:00criminals

21:02will

21:03be

21:03punished

21:04the

21:06United

21:07States

21:08will

21:09not

21:09abandon

21:10your

21:11country

21:12as a

21:13matter

21:13of

21:14fact

21:14now

21:15he

21:15says

21:20poland

21:21as

21:22recompensation

21:24will

21:25receive

21:27East

21:29Prussia

21:30or

21:31a part

21:32of

21:33East

21:33Prussia

21:34no

21:35more

21:36corridor

21:36and

21:39now

21:39to the

21:40ambassador

21:40Mr.

21:40Ambassador

21:41what do you

21:42think

21:42about

21:42it

21:43because

21:44Mr.

21:45Ambassador

21:45loves

21:45it

21:46only

21:46he

21:46wants

21:47all

21:47of

21:47East

21:47Prussia

21:48not

21:49part

21:49of

21:50East

21:50Prussia

21:51short

21:51conversation

21:52over

21:53there

21:57then

21:58when

21:59you

21:59return

22:00to

22:01Poland

22:01you

22:01will

22:02tell

22:02your

22:03Polish

22:03leaders

22:04this

22:06country

22:06will

22:07never

22:07fail

22:08them

22:10they

22:11have

22:11a

22:12friend

22:12in

22:14the

22:14president

22:15of

22:16the

22:16United

22:17States

22:18and

22:19he

22:20does

22:20ask

22:20me

22:20questions

22:21oh

22:21yes

22:22underground

22:23movement

22:26do you

22:27know

22:27what

22:28question

22:28he

22:28asked

22:29me

22:30do

22:31I

22:31understand

22:32correctly

22:33young

22:34men

22:35that

22:36before

22:37the

22:37war

22:38Poland

22:39was

22:40essentially

22:40an

22:41agricultural

22:42country

22:43yes

22:45mr

22:45president

22:46it

22:47was

22:47so

22:48well

22:50now

22:51what we

22:51understand

22:52in the

22:52Russian

22:53campaign

22:55Germans

22:56had

22:57to

22:57use

22:58tremendous

22:59amount

23:00of

23:00horses

23:01did

23:03take

23:03those

23:04horses

23:04from

23:05Poland

23:06because

23:08with

23:08your

23:09agricultural

23:10economy

23:11you

23:13need

23:13horses

23:14mr

23:16president

23:19yes

23:24he

23:25asked

23:25me

23:25other

23:26questions

23:26I had

23:27no

23:28chance

23:29except

23:30my

23:31initial

23:32statement

23:33to tell

23:34you

23:34mr

23:34president

23:34listen

23:35to

23:35me

23:35well

23:36you

23:36don't

23:36speak

23:36to

23:37the

23:37president

23:37of

23:38the

23:38united

23:38states

23:39no

23:40jewish

23:41problem

23:42was

23:42mentioned

23:43until

23:43the

23:44end

23:44of

23:44the

23:44conversation

23:45which

23:45lasted

23:46one

23:46hour

23:47twenty

23:47minutes

23:48but

23:48excuse me

23:49to insist

23:50but it

23:50is my

23:51my

23:51tema

23:51about

23:53the jews

23:53did he

23:54ask

23:54specific

23:55questions

23:55no

23:56no

23:56one

23:57no

23:57not

23:58not a

23:58single

23:58one

23:58not a

23:59single

23:59not a

23:59single

24:00what I

24:01said

24:02I said

24:03only

24:03on my

24:04initiative

24:05as an

24:05opening

24:06statement

24:07when he

24:08asked

24:08me

24:09I

24:10presume

24:11you

24:12want

24:12to

24:12pass

24:13certain

24:13information

24:16bring

24:16attention

24:17you

24:18gave

24:18everything

24:19on the

24:19jews

24:20at the

24:20end

24:20general

24:21terms

24:22I

24:22saw

24:22the

24:23he

24:23didn't

24:23ask

24:23one

24:24specific

24:24question

24:25not

24:25a

24:25single

24:25one

24:25and

24:26how

24:26do

24:26you

24:27explain

24:27this

24:27item

24:30he

24:30did

24:31make

24:31a

24:31gesture

24:31now

24:32what

24:32was

24:32the

24:33significance

24:33of

24:34this

24:35gesture

24:36was

24:36it

24:36a

24:36gesture

24:37or

24:38was

24:38it

24:38an

24:38expression

24:39of

24:40good

24:40will

24:41of

24:42the

24:42center

24:43of

24:43power

24:44who

24:44does

24:45not

24:45deal

24:46with

24:46particular

24:47problems

24:48I

24:48don't

24:49know

24:49until

24:49today

24:50it

24:51is

24:51my

24:51wiser

24:53people

24:53than

24:54I

24:54could

24:55not

24:55decipher

24:56FDR

24:57he

24:58was

24:59a

25:00great

25:00man

25:01after

25:02we

25:03left

25:04the

25:05White

25:05House

25:06and

25:07then

25:07of course

25:07as you

25:08can imagine

25:08we

25:09return

25:09to

25:09the

25:10embassy

25:11and

25:12ambassador

25:12gives

25:13me

25:13one

25:15typist

25:16he goes

25:16to another

25:17room

25:17another

25:18typist

25:18and his

25:19instructions

25:20now

25:20you

25:21write

25:21your

25:21report

25:21I

25:22write

25:22my

25:22report

25:23Johnny

25:24be

25:24careful

25:25everything

25:26counted

25:28if you

25:28notice

25:29his

25:29smile

25:30put it

25:31in the

25:32report

25:32we

25:33just

25:34saw

25:34the

25:35center

25:35of

25:36power

25:36of

25:37humanity

25:37and

25:38then

25:38we

25:38will

25:38compare

25:39our

25:39both

25:40report

25:40I

25:40have

25:40to

25:41send

25:41the

25:41report

25:41to

25:42London

25:42of

25:42course

25:43so

25:44we

25:45cooked

25:45up

25:46whatever

25:46it

25:46was

25:47then

25:47comes

25:48the

25:48problem

25:48I

25:50think

25:50it

25:50was

25:51next

25:51day

25:51very

25:52soon

25:52it

25:54might

25:54be

25:55even

25:55the

25:55same

25:56evening

25:56as a

25:57matter

25:57of

25:57fact

25:58he

25:59sees

25:59me

25:59the

26:00ambassador

26:00and

26:00says

26:01well

26:02Johnny

26:02now

26:04I

26:05got

26:06from

26:06the

26:07White

26:07House

26:09a

26:10message

26:12apparently

26:12the

26:14president

26:15would

26:17like

26:17you

26:18to

26:19see

26:19the

26:20following

26:21individuals

26:22and

26:24he

26:24wants

26:24you

26:25to

26:25pass

26:26to

26:27them

26:27all

26:28your

26:29reports

26:30now

26:30on

26:31that

26:31list

26:32now

26:33it

26:34was

26:34a

26:34long

26:34list

26:35some

26:37individuals

26:37for

26:38instance

26:38oh

26:39yes

26:39there

26:40was

26:40Rabbi

26:40Wise

26:41whom

26:42I

26:42saw

26:43already

26:43by the

26:44way

26:44Goldman

26:47Waldman

26:48Waldman

26:48I

26:49remember

26:49as a

26:50matter

26:50of

26:50fact

26:50certain

26:52Jesuit

26:53priest

26:53father

26:54Walsh

26:55there

26:56was

26:56a

26:56Supreme

26:58Court

26:58Justice

26:59just

27:01yes

27:02Justice

27:04Frankfurter

27:04I

27:05saw him

27:05on the

27:06recommendation

27:06of

27:07president

27:07Roosevelt

27:08there

27:09were

27:09names

27:09secretary

27:10of war

27:11Stimson

27:12secretary

27:14of state

27:15Cordell

27:16Howe

27:19Archbishop

27:20Spellman

27:21Archbishop

27:22Muni

27:24Archbishop

27:25Stritch

27:26Apostolic

27:28Delegate

27:29Cicconiani

27:31So

27:33Delegate

27:33from the

27:33Pope

27:34Apostolic

27:35Delegate

27:35from the

27:36Pope

27:36Now

27:37I

27:39interpreted

27:40this

27:41and

27:42ambassador

27:42that

27:44the

27:44president

27:45was

27:46interested

27:47in the

27:48Jewish

27:48problem

27:49only

27:50on

27:52his

27:53level

27:53the

27:56problem

27:56was

27:58not

27:58of

27:58direct

27:59so to

28:00say

28:00his

28:00jurisdiction

28:01he

28:02sent

28:03me

28:03to

28:04the

28:04people

28:05whom

28:06he

28:07considered

28:08actually

28:09could

28:09take

28:09some

28:10action

28:11knowing

28:12that

28:13I

28:13was

28:13sent

28:14to

28:14them

28:14on

28:15his

28:15recommendation

28:17it

28:18might

28:18have

28:18been

28:19also

28:19did

28:19you

28:20did

28:20you

28:20feel

28:20yourself

28:22the

28:24tragic

28:25discrepancy

28:26between

28:26the

28:28demands

28:28and

28:29the

28:29expectations

28:29hopeless

28:30expectations

28:31of the

28:32people

28:32in

28:32Warsaw

28:32I

28:33mean

28:33the

28:33Jews

28:33that

28:34you

28:35met

28:35on

28:35this

28:35result

28:37this

28:37visit

28:39because

28:39there

28:40is

28:40no

28:40communication

28:41I

28:41understand

28:41history

28:42passed

28:4335

28:44years

28:44passed

28:45so I

28:45understand

28:46your

28:46film

28:46your

28:47archives

28:48film

28:48archives

28:51after

28:52my

28:53audience

28:54with

28:54president

28:55Roosevelt

28:55I was

28:56so

28:56overwhelmed

28:58by this

29:00fact

29:00I

29:01reported

29:02to the

29:02president

29:03of the

29:03United

29:04States

29:06I

29:07didn't

29:07think

29:07about

29:07anything

29:08else

29:08I

29:09was

29:09totally

29:10overwhelmed

29:10by it

29:13years

29:14passed

29:14and of

29:15course

29:15now I

29:16think

29:17about it

29:17what was

29:18the

29:18significance

29:20and I

29:21don't have

29:22the answer

29:22perhaps

29:23he

29:24wanted

29:25expected

29:25others

29:26to do

29:27perhaps

29:28they

29:28did

29:28do

29:29things

29:29none

29:31of

29:31the

29:32allied

29:32leaders

29:33on

29:34the

29:34level

29:34as I

29:35met

29:36them

29:36would

29:37tell

29:37me

29:38what

29:38he

29:38was

29:39going

29:39to

29:39do

29:39you

29:40understand

29:41a few

29:42days

29:43later

29:45the

29:46ambassador

29:46tells me

29:47Johnny

29:48now

29:49you

29:50are

29:50going

29:50to

29:51see

29:52Justice

29:53Frankfurter

29:56he

29:56will

29:57come

29:57here

29:57Justice

29:58Frankfurter

29:59he

29:59means

29:59he

30:00was

30:00a

30:00member

30:00of

30:00the

30:01Supreme

30:02Court

30:02now

30:04again

30:05he

30:05gave

30:05me

30:06his

30:06briefing

30:07he

30:07will

30:08come

30:08here

30:08he

30:08said

30:09he

30:10will

30:10come

30:10here

30:10as

30:11a

30:11matter

30:11of

30:12fact

30:12except

30:13cabinet

30:13members

30:14usually

30:15people

30:16came

30:16to

30:17the

30:17embassy

30:17I

30:18lived

30:19in

30:19the

30:19embassy

30:19so

30:20he

30:21will

30:21come

30:21here

30:22now

30:23he

30:23gave

30:23me

30:24his

30:24briefing

30:24now

30:25Johnny

30:26again

30:27be careful

30:27he

30:28always

30:28would

30:28breathe

30:29me

30:29now

30:30all

30:31knowledgeable

30:32people

30:34consider

30:35this

30:36man

30:36the

30:38most

30:38brilliant

30:39man

30:39in

30:40the

30:40administration

30:41as

30:43a

30:43justice

30:44of

30:45the

30:45Supreme

30:45Court

30:46the

30:48institution

30:48is

30:48very

30:49important

30:49but

30:50next

30:51for

30:53years

30:53he

30:55is

30:55a

30:55confidant

30:56of

30:57the

30:58president

30:58all

30:59America

31:00knows

31:00about

31:01it

31:01and

31:02he

31:02was

31:02a

31:02Jew

31:03now

31:04and

31:04he

31:04says

31:05Johnny

31:06now

31:06he

31:07is

31:07a

31:07Jew

31:09so

31:10be

31:10sure

31:12he

31:12will

31:12be

31:13interested

31:13in

31:14your

31:14report

31:15all

31:16right

31:16so

31:16I

31:17wait

31:17again

31:17carefully

31:19on

31:20the

31:20appointed

31:21hour

31:21as a

31:22matter

31:22of

31:22fact

31:23I

31:23even

31:23remember

31:23it

31:24was

31:24between

31:24breakfast

31:25and

31:25lunch

31:26before

31:26lunch

31:27in

31:27the

31:27morning

31:28hours

31:29on

31:31time

31:31I

31:33was

31:33sitting

31:33in

31:34the

31:34living

31:35room

31:36salon

31:36ambassador

31:38comes

31:39from

31:39the

31:41first

31:41floor

31:42with

31:43justice

31:44frankfurter

31:45justice

31:48frankfurter

31:49a

31:51little

31:51man

31:52he

31:54did

31:55emanate

31:57some

31:58brilliance

31:59very

32:00alive

32:01his eyes

32:03unimpressive

32:05physically

32:05a

32:07little

32:07man

32:07Jewish

32:08looking

32:11very

32:12friendly

32:13smile

32:16towards

32:17me

32:18all

32:18the

32:18time

32:18friendly

32:19several

32:20times

32:21he

32:21called

32:21me

32:22young

32:22man

32:23during

32:24our

32:24conversation

32:25well

32:26I

32:27introduce

32:27myself

32:28we

32:29sit

32:29down

32:29he

32:30in

32:32front

32:32of

32:32me

32:32ciechanoski

32:33on

32:34my

32:34left

32:35justice

32:37frankfurter

32:38starts

32:38mr

32:39karski

32:41i

32:42have

32:42been

32:43invited

32:43but

32:45my

32:46very

32:46good

32:46friend

32:47your

32:49ambassador

32:49to

32:51come

32:51here

32:52to

32:53see

32:54i

32:56was

32:56also

32:57advised

32:58that

33:00i

33:01should

33:02see

33:03you

33:06apparently

33:07you

33:08have

33:08some

33:08information

33:09which

33:11i

33:11should

33:11know

33:15what

33:16do

33:18you

33:18have

33:18to

33:18say

33:21my

33:22answer

33:24sir

33:26i

33:27don't

33:27know

33:28what

33:28you

33:28are

33:29interested

33:29in

33:30could

33:31you

33:32ask

33:32me

33:32some

33:32questions

33:33it

33:34will

33:35be

33:35easier

33:35on

33:36me

33:37frankfurter

33:40young

33:41man

33:43do

33:44you

33:44know

33:45that

33:45i

33:46am

33:46a

33:47jew

33:50yes

33:51sir

33:51mr

33:52ambassador

33:53told me

33:55about

33:56this

33:56well

33:58tell me

34:00about

34:00the

34:00jews

34:03we

34:04have

34:04here

34:04many

34:05reports

34:06what

34:07happens

34:08to

34:09the

34:10jews

34:11in

34:11your

34:12country

34:15now

34:16i

34:17become

34:17a

34:17machine

34:17again

34:18i

34:19give

34:19my

34:19step

34:22the

34:24man

34:24sits

34:27i

34:28remember

34:28he

34:29looked

34:30like

34:30smaller

34:32and

34:32smaller

34:34somehow

34:36like

34:37kirby

34:38looking

34:39at

34:40the

34:40floor

34:42but

34:42listens

34:43he

34:43doesn't

34:44interrupt

34:44me

34:47i

34:48report

34:49as

34:49you

34:49know

34:49from

34:49this

34:50film

34:50usually

34:51it

34:51lasted

34:5115-20

34:53minutes

34:53i

34:55tell

34:55him

34:55jewish

34:56leaders

34:57ghetto

34:57belgians

35:00well

35:01it

35:02was

35:0315-20

35:04minutes

35:04passed

35:05and

35:07i

35:07stop

35:10justice

35:11frankfurter

35:13he

35:14sits

35:16looks

35:17at

35:17me

35:17still

35:17at

35:18this

35:18moment

35:20and

35:21tells me

35:21the

35:22following

35:22young

35:23men

35:26as

35:26as i

35:26mentioned

35:27i

35:28have

35:28been

35:29informed

35:30about

35:31your

35:31activities

35:33i

35:34was

35:34told

35:35that

35:36you

35:36came

35:36out

35:37of

35:37hell

35:39and

35:40i

35:40was

35:40told

35:41that

35:42you

35:42are

35:42going

35:43back

35:43to

35:43hell

35:46my

35:47admiration

35:47for

35:48people

35:49like

35:49you

35:53and

35:54now

35:58young

35:59men

36:01i am

36:02no

36:03longer

36:04young

36:05i am

36:07judge

36:07of

36:07men

36:10men

36:11like

36:12me

36:14with

36:15a

36:16man

36:17like

36:17you

36:19must be

36:20totally

36:20honest

36:25and

36:26i am

36:27telling

36:27you

36:29i

36:30do

36:30not

36:30believe

36:31you

36:35chanowski

36:36breaks

36:36in

36:37felix

36:37what are

36:38you

36:38talking

36:38about

36:40well

36:41you know

36:41about

36:41him

36:42he

36:42comes

36:43so

36:44the

36:44president

36:44he was

36:45checked

36:45rechecked

36:46ten times

36:46in

36:47England

36:48here

36:48felix

36:49what

36:50he's

36:50not

36:51lying

36:53frankfurter

36:54still

36:54walking

36:57mr

36:58ambassador

36:59formally

37:01i

37:02did

37:03not

37:03say

37:04that

37:05he

37:06is

37:06lying

37:08i

37:09said

37:09that

37:10i

37:11don't

37:11believe

37:12him

37:13these

37:14are

37:15different

37:15things

37:18and

37:21my

37:21mind

37:25my

37:26heart

37:29they

37:30are

37:30made

37:30in

37:32such

37:32a way

37:35that

37:36i

37:36cannot

37:36accept

37:37no

37:38no

37:39no

37:40no

37:49i

37:49remember

37:50something

37:50that

37:52it's a

37:53shock

37:56he's

37:57he's

37:58began

37:58amenity

37:59eventually

38:00he did

38:01ask me

38:01and

38:02the

38:02few

38:03friendly

38:03questions

38:04he didn't

38:04tell you

38:04i know

38:05human soul

38:06i know

38:06what's

38:06i am

38:08a judge

38:08of

38:08men

38:09i know

38:11i know

38:12i know

38:14men

38:18impossible

38:19no

38:22total

38:23no

38:26no

38:31was he

38:32sincere

38:33that's my

38:34question

38:35what is the

38:35meaning of

38:36was it an

38:37act

38:38theatrical

38:39act

38:41what

38:42could i

38:43do

38:45how do

38:46you argue

38:46with justice

38:47frankfurter

38:49cheshanovsky

38:49tells me

38:50he's

38:52a

38:52powerful

38:53man

38:54as a matter

38:54of fact

38:55but he was

38:56even a key

38:56figure in the

38:57jewish community

38:58as a matter

38:58of fact

38:59when he

38:59asked

39:01mr

39:01karski

39:03do you

39:04know

39:04who i

39:05am

39:05so then

39:06i said

39:06yes

39:07sir

39:07you are

39:08associate

39:10justice

39:10of the

39:11supreme

39:11court

39:12and then

39:14i cracked

39:15a little

39:17my ambassador

39:18also told

39:19me

39:20that you

39:21are a

39:21very

39:22important

39:23man

39:24i remember

39:26this

39:26justice

39:27frankfurter

39:28looks at

39:29cheshanovsky

39:33then

39:34he introduces

39:36himself

39:37and what

39:38is the meaning

39:38of this

39:39now

39:39according to

39:40you

39:40i don't

39:41believe you

39:43what didn't

39:44he did

39:44yes i think

39:45he believed

39:45me of course

39:46i i have

39:49i have no doubt

39:50he did

39:50his best

39:51whatever

39:52he could

39:53have done

39:56he

39:56he took

39:57it for granted

39:58i was

39:59going

39:59back to

40:00poland

40:01probably

40:01he wanted

40:02to show

40:03me

40:05yes

40:06that

40:06the world

40:07is unprepared

40:08this is a

40:09unprecedented

40:10problem

40:11this is a

40:12horrible

40:12problem

40:13generally

40:14speaking

40:15when the jews

40:16in warsaw

40:17said that

40:18their problem

40:19this means

40:20their destruction

40:21couldn't be

40:22handled

40:22in a purely

40:24military manner

40:25that one had to

40:26find something

40:27else

40:27did these people

40:29these specific

40:30people

40:30these jews

40:31did they

40:31understand this

40:33or not

40:33they did

40:34i'm sure

40:35they did

40:35i'm sure

40:36they did

40:37the same

40:37rescue through

40:38victory

40:38no no

40:40no

40:40they did

40:41understand

40:42this

40:42problem

40:43they sympathized

40:45with the

40:46polish jews

40:47something

40:48has to be

40:49done

40:49in this

40:49respect

40:51they will

40:52do their

40:53best

40:54but this

40:55would end

40:56did you

40:56have

40:56did you

40:57have

40:57the feeling

40:57that

40:58they

40:59understood

40:59the

41:00fantastic

41:01emergency

41:02that

41:03every day

41:03was too

41:04late

41:11because

41:12this

41:12is

41:12what

41:12you

41:12were

41:13in

41:14charge

41:14to

41:15convey

41:15i think

41:16they

41:16did

41:16not

41:17you

41:18think

41:18they

41:18did

41:18not

41:18they

41:18did

41:20it

41:21it

41:21was a

41:22serious

41:22problem

41:23a tragic

41:24problem

41:25we are

41:26doing

41:26our

41:27best

41:27so much

41:28can be

41:29done

41:30the rest

41:31cannot

41:32be done

41:34we are

41:35doing

41:35whatever

41:36we can

41:37do

41:37in this

41:38problem

41:38rather

41:39from the

41:40jewish

41:41leaders

41:41rather

41:43i was

41:44getting

41:44this

41:44kind

41:45of

41:45reaction

41:46and

41:46then

41:46jewish

41:48leaders

41:48most

41:49of

41:50them

41:50interested

41:51well

41:52how

41:53to

41:53do

41:53it

41:53this

41:54everyday

41:55now

41:56a question

41:57could

41:58be

41:58asked

41:59and

42:00as a

42:01matter

42:01of

42:01fact

42:01at

42:01various

42:02stages

42:02of

42:02this

42:03film

42:03this

42:04question

42:04emerged

42:09is

42:10there

42:10any

42:10comparison

42:12between

42:13what

42:13happened

42:14to the

42:15european

42:16jews

42:17during

42:17the

42:17second

42:18world

42:18war

42:19could

42:20it

42:21be

42:21compared

42:21to

42:23any

42:24happening

42:25in

42:26the

42:26past

42:26history

42:28whatever

42:29i know

42:30about

42:30history

42:31totally

42:33unique

42:35it

42:36was

42:36a

42:36problem

42:37in

42:38itself

42:38unprecedented

42:40historically

42:41humanity

42:44one could

42:45say

42:46healthy

42:48humanity

42:49rational

42:50humanity

42:52which

42:54did not

42:55see it

42:56with their

42:56own

42:57eyes

42:57were not

42:59actually

43:00there

43:03they

43:04had no

43:05precedent

43:05to

43:05compare

43:09as

43:10you

43:10know

43:10i

43:11mentioned

43:11this

43:1435

43:15years

43:15past

43:16i

43:17have

43:17been

43:17conditioned

43:18by

43:18the

43:18american

43:19environment

43:21naturally

43:22in

43:24my

43:24mind

43:24i

43:25know

43:26it

43:26was

43:26true

43:29i

43:30cannot

43:30handle

43:30it

43:34what

43:35i

43:35saw

43:35in

43:37this

43:37respect

43:39jewish

43:40extermination

43:43is

43:44incomprehensible

43:45for me

43:45i cannot

43:47handle

43:48it

43:48i can

43:49handle

43:49perfectly

43:50well

43:51polish

43:52problem

43:54i

43:55discuss

43:56it

43:56in

43:56my

43:57classes

43:57czech

43:58serb

44:01russian

44:02i

44:04understand

44:04i

44:04comprehend

44:05i

44:06could

44:06speak

44:07about

44:07it

44:07calmly

44:08russianly

44:11history

44:12is

44:13cruel

44:15to

44:16many

44:16nations

44:17to

44:17many

44:17individuals

44:18i

44:20ran

44:21away

44:23i

44:24tried

44:24to

44:24eliminate

44:25what

44:25i

44:25saw

44:26as

44:26far

44:26as

44:26the

44:27jews

44:27were

44:27concerned

44:28now

44:30not

44:30only

44:32history

44:33did

44:33not

44:33see

44:34such

44:35an

44:35event

44:36before

44:40nothing

44:41happened

44:41since

44:42then

44:42which

44:42could

44:43be

44:43compelled

44:45of course

44:46again

44:46history

44:47is

44:47cruel

44:47nations

44:49fight

44:49individuals

44:50hate

44:51political

44:52considerations

44:53enter

44:53the

44:54picture

44:54conquest

44:55torture

44:56prison

44:57collective

44:58responsibility

44:59wars

45:00victorious

45:02wars

45:05defeats

45:05in the

45:06wars

45:07well

45:08we see it

45:09now

45:09we look

45:11around the

45:11world

45:12we have

45:12it

45:14i don't

45:15know

45:15how to

45:16put

45:16this

45:16question

45:18because

45:18it's

45:19difficult

45:19to

45:19formulate

45:22what is

45:23the meaning

45:23of

45:24bell's edge

45:24or of

45:25treblinka

45:26seen

45:27from

45:27washington

45:29or from

45:30new york

45:30i talk

45:31at the time

45:33or from

45:34london

45:34did

45:37for

45:38for

45:38instance

45:38when

45:39you

45:39were

45:40reporting

45:41reporting

45:41every

45:42day

45:43like

45:44a

45:44machine

45:44as

45:44you

45:45said

45:46did

45:46you

45:47did

45:48you

45:48remember

45:48marshall

45:49when you

45:49were

45:49here

45:50in

45:50washington

45:55yes

45:58of course

45:59not

46:00in the

46:00way

46:01i remember

46:02it now

46:02as i

46:03mentioned

46:04now i

46:04much

46:04weaker

46:05emotionally

46:06so i

46:08break

46:09down

46:09i avoided

46:10at the

46:10time

46:11yes

46:11i was

46:12a

46:12machine

46:13i was

46:14a

46:14reporter

46:15but

46:16how do

46:16you

46:17judge

46:17the

46:17people

46:17who

46:20through

46:21what you

46:21said

46:22didn't

46:22grasp

46:23the

46:23real

46:23meaning

46:24of

46:24what

46:25it

46:25was

46:26is it

46:27possible

46:28to

46:28grasp

46:28the

46:29destruction

46:29of

46:30the

46:30jews

46:30when

46:31one

46:31lives

46:31in

46:32washington

46:32a

46:33complete

46:33other

46:34world

46:34at

46:35that

46:36time

46:38probably

46:39not

46:41probably

46:42not

46:44it

46:45might

46:45have

46:46been

46:47possible

46:47if

46:49every

46:50one

46:51of

46:51those

46:52individuals

46:53actually

46:54was

46:54there

46:55because

46:57now

46:57all of

46:59us

46:59we are

46:59intelligent

47:00people

47:00it

47:02was

47:02unprecedented

47:04this

47:06kind

47:06of

47:06things

47:07really

47:08never

47:09happened

47:11for

47:12a

47:13normal

47:13human

47:14being

47:15educated

47:16having

47:18political

47:18responsibility

47:19a

47:20leader

47:21all of

47:24us

47:24we know

47:24our

47:26brain

47:26our

47:27concepts

47:28can

47:30operate

47:31only

47:31within

47:32certain

47:33limits

47:34mainly

47:36what

47:37the

47:37environment

47:38puts

47:39books

47:40knowledge

47:41information

47:42puts

47:43into

47:43our

47:44brains

47:44at a

47:45certain

47:46point

47:49probably

47:50our

47:50brains

47:51are not

47:52able

47:53to

47:53grasp

47:54something

48:23something

48:36You

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