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00:03Connor. Yes. We hear you love languages and accents. Other than Russian, what's your favorite?
00:10Ooh, I'm kind of always switching between languages. Right now, I really want to learn
00:16Spanish. I'm from West Texas, so I've always heard Spanish. And living in LA, there's Spanish
00:21everywhere. So it doesn't feel very, like, exotic to me because I've heard it my whole life. But
00:27I think it's sexy. Spanish is muy sexy. Yes, I think Colombian Spanish, I think, is the
00:36sexiest language there is. I like the traditional Spain-Spanish. Spain-Spanish. Vamos a la playa
00:41de Barcelona. Barcelona. Con Javier Bader. Yeah. Ana de Armas. Ana de Armas. She's Cuban,
00:50right? She's Cuban. Okay. Pretty girl. Okay. This year marks 20 years since Brokeback Mountain.
00:56Are there any MM romance movies, shows, or books that have really stuck with you either
01:00growing up or recently? Well, I love Brokeback Mountain. It was one of the first things that
01:05you told me. Yeah. I love Keith Ledger plays Ennis. I still think it's his best work. I think
01:11that was one of the first pivotal ones when you have two leading men take on, you know,
01:17gay cowboys. It's pretty bold. But then, you know, you have Call Me By Your Name, Moonlight,
01:22I think with Barry Jenkins saying, bringing the art house to the hood is what he said.
01:27That was already just a beautiful juxtaposition. And then having, you know, he said he wanted
01:33to redefine masculinity with that movie, which I thought was so cool.
01:36Yeah. Call Me By Your Name, I think, was like pretty revolutionary. Yeah. Yeah. I was in high
01:40school at that time. And I remember that being the first thing that felt like it was really a part
01:46of the cultural zeitgeist. And it also handled, like, it also handled queer stories in a really
01:52cool way where it was so under the surface and it made it so human, you know, which I think
01:59also
01:59was kind of like a moonlight scenario where we're taking these people in such a specific time and
02:05place and like letting them explore love. Right. What does SMUT mean to you?
02:14I'm going to try to make an acronym. Sexy. This is going to be in relation to
02:21ember and ice. Sexy. Magic. Universe.
02:39I have no idea. What did I say?
02:41sexy magic universe um titillating yeah yeah we'll do that titillating oh you very publicly
02:52shot your shot for night wing uh which was extremely fun to watch have you been a dc fan
02:59and what is it like to see fans instantly rally behind you especially the ones that say you have
03:03the face the talent and the butt i will be completely honest i when i saw like some fan
03:10art of you as night wing i was like blown away whoa like i i i mean you never know
03:16if that's
03:17going to come to fruition or not but yeah i see like someone did you in the comic book style
03:22i was
03:22like i see it right away wow yeah i would i would love to play him i love dc i
03:28love um i loved all
03:31like comic books that were true to the source material um and i think you know there are a
03:40lot of good filmmakers who like bring their own style to these you know beloved um um comics
03:47that i think it would be really great to work with them you know i'm not fully set on night
03:51wing you
03:51know i'm open to other things um did you always want to be in like did is superheroes no always
03:59something that's been like i absolutely not it's just it's when really good filmmaker it's it's
04:05filmmaker driven so when like a guy like james gunn um or matt reeves you know comes to comics it
04:11i think
04:12that's what draws me um and and i heard james gunn is doing the the teen titans i know there's
04:18yeah but yeah james gunn he's in love with you true or false hudson is more like ilia in real
04:26life
04:26and connor is more like shane i think me and you are both like rose and i'm like svetlana i
04:33just said
04:34me and you are both like rose but i'm just i'm just parting ways that's so svetlana for you to
04:39say
04:40um i don't know i mean maybe i do feel like ilia i don't know i think that um i
04:48i'm i'm too sensitive
04:49or outwardly sensitive or don't have a lot of shame around emotion to be ilia i could be a little
04:55cocky like ilia yeah but beyond that it's like i think shane and ilia sort of share us you know
05:02a soulfulness that's kind of buried under all these you know walls and kind of um masks but i think
05:09i think underneath that what we both relate with both of them is you know the the heart and and
05:16and their soul after wrapping heated rivalry you two got matching tattoos that say sex sales
05:21and if true how did that happen um i did i have a reason for coming up to vancouver i
05:27just want to
05:28come see yeah come hang out am i not good enough right come on yeah i just i don't know
05:32why for a
05:32second i was like i have something to do up there i have nothing to do in vancouver i was
05:38there so yeah
05:39i just went up to see um i just came up to see you we knew we wanted to get
05:43matching tattoos i
05:44hadn't gotten a tattoo in forever um and we were just shuffling through ideas and yeah i think you
05:51came up with sex but like we were both pitching ideas and like one person would like them the other
05:56person wouldn't and then when you said sex sales i was like oh we were sold that's the first idea
06:00you've had that's good i think it's honestly my most well done tattoo as well so that feels good
06:05the front of my shin pull in here zoom in okay true or false you ate a pound of beef
06:13of ground beef
06:14a day while filming heated rivalry true um connor told me what his routine was and after i saw him
06:20in person um i asked him how he got to that size i thought he was taking illicit substances he
06:27wasn't
06:27he does it super clean sorry i mentioned illicit substances um but i have nothing to hide bring it
06:34on but he was so just like so i was like what are you eating freak i was like i'm
06:43eating
06:45and he just couldn't speak and he just kept doing that i was like i think that means ground beef
06:50um you're like that level of capability is what i need and then connor was actually the person who put
06:55me on to fiber because if you need to eat the protein you want to get you know ilia cheeks
07:01um
07:02and chest you need so much fiber just so your stomach doesn't shut down and you go into cardiac arrest
07:09and you get carried out from your your little workout on a stretcher with some you know pumped
07:14up pecs and a shut down you look you look good digestive system it's really unfortunate if it ends
07:19that way yeah yeah i actually um i'm gonna one up this true or false i actually think that we
07:25ate
07:25more than a pound of beef yeah because a pound of beef only has i think 84 grams of protein
07:30and you
07:31need a solid 200 you're going our size and shape so sometimes i can eat two pounds of ground beef
07:37a day
07:37plus like 10 eggs yeah and so many salads i was having so much salad because by the end i
07:43got like
07:43gained 10 pounds so like when i started shooting i was like and by the end i was like 10
07:48pounds heavier
07:48and it was because of yeah yeah you i mean you're very inspiring i'm glad that we had each other
07:53because it would have been really hard to be motivated if you know we were going back to our
07:5812 hour days and then the gym and then like going back to a residence like alone it's really it's
08:03nice
08:03that i got to be like hi son let's go to gym and we would go from a 11 hour
08:09day skating lesson and
08:11connor would go let's do legs and i and i looked him he's a madman that's how he has a
08:16butt he'll finish
08:17a skating lesson that takes four hours and then go legs now and i was like what are you saying
08:23okay i knew i had a responsibility to the people he's america's ass and i i take that very seriously
08:33romance readers are famously passionate about book adaptations did you feel any pressure being
08:38bringing a beloved story to life and how did you approach making the characters your own it's good
08:42i think to go into a project accepting that you know people might be disappointed especially with
08:49something like a book where everyone already has preconceived notions they've visioned they've
08:53envisioned these characters they've drawn these characters they've gotten tattoos of these characters
08:58like the love is already there so much that ultimately someone is going to be disappointed all you can do
09:05is is read the material as much as you possibly can yeah and um and respect it show the respect
09:13show
09:14the dedication and just hope that people you know connect with it and love it and see that enthusiasm
09:19i think we both had that level of whether you want to call it nihilism or not like people might
09:25just
09:25hate this people might hate your casting and they might hate my casting i'm not going to expect anything
09:29more and uh i'm just gonna do the best i can but you have really no metric of if people
09:37are going to
09:37be warm to your your take i really think at the end of the day all you can do is
09:41be really intentional
09:42give it 150 percent yeah just go for it you know yeah and luckily for us this worked out really
09:51freaking
09:51well hudson we have heard rumors about a very serious multi-step korean skincare routine can you
10:00break it down for us it's not that lengthy yeah i always made fun of you for it too because
10:04i like
10:05honestly i'm just kind of jealous because you have really good skin um but i was like yeah your skin
10:10routine and then it's actually not that long it's not that long it's okay i'm going to tell you in
10:16the
10:16morning i use water to cleanse my face warm water and then i put on a glow toner but it's
10:24pretty dry
10:24it's not like i don't like when people have like dewy like if i see someone it looks like they
10:28just
10:28wore a face mask i'm like why are you out right now like go go wipe that off and then
10:33come talk to me
10:33because i won't right now um and then so my toner and then i'll put on um a serum and
10:40then sunscreen
10:41and then sometimes instead of a serum i put on a moisturizer and then my pm routine is an oil
10:47cleanser you know to get out these blackheads to get the the gunk out um and then i'll either use
10:53like a cerave normal ass cleanser or i'll use like a poor shrinking cleanser that's their new
10:59that's their new slogan survey normal ass cleanser i think that is i yeah i also and then like a
11:08poor
11:08shrink or a poor shrinking cleanser if that's my goal and then the same thing toner serum and then
11:14either a retinol or a salicylic acid and then i go to sleep so i think everyone in the studio
11:21agrees
11:21that was a lot well i will also say i mean it makes sense you have flawless skin so and
11:28then when i take
11:29it off it just falls apart yeah he unhooks the he has the clip back here in the back keeps
11:35it all up
11:36connor yes story yes do you have a favorite spicy scene from heated rivalry and a favorite from ember
11:42and ice what makes those stand out for you my favorite spicy scene from ember and ice is actually
11:47a scene where dane um is with two former lovers cassandra and elijah yep
11:58i need you to i need you to be here with me okay um dane has an interaction with uh
12:05two of his former
12:06lovers um after having been with finn for some time and uh yeah not to spoil but he he ends
12:15up realizing
12:15that what what really works for him isn't working for him anymore and it's kind of this moment of
12:21identity loss and you know what what pleases me isn't pleasing me the same i think that's really
12:27cool because it's also it's because it's cool because it's like sexy and spicy but it also is
12:32really revealing of the character and the connection and where he's at you know um and i think it's funny
12:37i think i remember dane saying something about um he's like he's like and then the next thing i did
12:43was
12:43i just had to come up with uh an excuse and then he's like he's like my friends i have
12:48bad news
12:50i have a lot from ember and ice but one is the lake scene where we kind of go in
12:56together and
12:56you kind of coax it out of me without spoiling too much i think that one's just you know a
13:02lot
13:02of times like the intimacy before intimacy i think it has more of a charge in a way that one
13:08really got
13:08me um frothing at the mouth and heated rivalry favorite intimate scene there's one that was really
13:16fun to film do you remember filming the stair step scene when we're like kissing against the glass
13:20and our lips never come apart me and you were like do people do this do people like i know
13:26it's always
13:26a fun balance right of like when you're filming um separate from like the audio space when you're filming
13:33it's like how much of it is fun tv and then how much of it is like is like true
13:40sex because at the
13:41end of the day you know you do have in real life people do have those those like movie moments
13:46where
13:46you're like you know you're like yeah yeah and then everyone on set was like oh yeah no we i've
13:51done
13:51that and then connor and i were like oh oh we usually fold our clothes place them down then go
13:57both chain naked and go sex now sex now i'm robot plug me in true or false hudson's roommates once
14:08kept
14:08a mooning tally of how many times he flashed them do you know how many times i know that you
14:14i've yeah
14:15i remember this yep it's true it was one roommate um and i i mooned him 31 times what was
14:23his reaction
14:24when you moved him was he like hudson her poor name was chelsea i i i've talked with her and
14:31chelsea
14:32has been like you can say my name and i was like so i've since talked about this since double
14:36like it said uh double consent um and uh poor chelsea would just go i think her main reaction was
14:41like oh and it made me so happy where where is chelsea now and i i developed different techniques
14:53over the years um she's chilling she's got a cat that's like hanging off her walls um but i would
15:00go
15:00and i would do like a drive-by i had all these different techniques and then she would bring like
15:04other you know um romantic interests home and then they're like what's this tally up on the board and
15:10they're like oh that's how many times hudson my roommate has mooned me and they were like would
15:15you just like kind of butt crack it or would you fold so i had one where i would get
15:19pants low like
15:21i would de-pants and she would be unassuming like maybe on her phone on the couch and i would
15:26run by
15:26and jump in the air so i was like a like like a like a literal moon a literal moon
15:32but in fast motion
15:34sometimes i would just do the like oh drop something before we leave bend and i'm right
15:38there gotcha oh god
15:43yes no they they got very athletic but we need to clarify if you were going to moon someone yeah
15:48a
15:48close friend chelsea is still my make it and make it known that this is okay yep
15:53she got a who do not moon people you don't know in places it's not okay hudson as an asian
16:01actor
16:01leading such a hugely popular queer romance what kind of stories or roles are you excited for
16:06more people to see you in going forward um yeah i i wanna i wanna represent my my wasians out
16:15there
16:15you know um i've been declared do you know about this i'm declared the i think princess or
16:22prince of wajia me i mean i i sign off on it okay i think you he's the final stamp
16:30off guy for this
16:31so uh yeah i'm the i'm the ambassador of wajia as a fully as a completely caucasian yes but as
16:40as
16:40this um little wajian i am i hope to just do roles that aren't always charged with you know i'm
16:50happy to
16:50do roles that are you know race has something to to play in there but also i just want to
16:55be an
16:55actor and a lot of the times i just want to play parts where it's like i'm i'm just there
17:01and we
17:01don't need to go in my backstory or whatever it's just you know i'm playing with any other uh non
17:09person of color would play as well you know you're a person you want to be treated i'm a person
17:14of it
17:14baby on both heated rivalry and ember and ice you worked with an intimacy coordinator um why do you
17:21think that role matters on projects like this was there anything about the process that you think
17:25would surprise people wow i mean i think it's so um yeah that's a yeah that question is i mean
17:32it's so
17:33important i mean you you literally can't do things without that role um the thing that i think would
17:41shock people about the role of intimacy coordinating is it's not just about and this is what i learned
17:48from chayla originally and then also jamie doing this it's not just about the actual safety the
17:54boundaries monitoring what's going on what that looks like making sure everyone's okay there's also
18:00actually a conjunction of an artistic edge where you are like jamie with this you know was also the
18:08voice that was reminding us this is how long it's been since this happened you know you need to i
18:13need
18:14to hear that shiver or that i need to hear those um i need to hear that feeling through your
18:20wings i need
18:21to see that come about i need to feel that pleasure in this way so it's not always technical even
18:26though
18:27that's what i feel like is brought up a lot there is also an artistic sensibility to that job and
18:31that really promotes that conversation absolutely bring in the first ginger ale this is so fun
18:40we have canada dry we have schweps we have can you can someone give me a rundown of the brand
18:45nope
18:46you're gonna try it and we're gonna go i don't i've only named two from memory well how about this
18:50i'll
18:50hold it so we don't we don't give away anything yep that's my hudson that's my hudson
19:03that's not canada dry this is some shitty american ginger ale this is like schweps or like
19:11um yeah that's my guess you said it's not canada dry why is it not canada dry yeah canada dry's
19:17got
19:17more ginger in it and more bubble in it it's just subtle ginger yeah go ahead and should we de
19:23-blindflip
19:28we got you where is this imported from this this is this is no no way it says it says
19:37from frisco texas
19:39nope i don't i don't this is it changed it changed bring in ginger ale number two that is so
19:48embarrassing
19:50thank you so much this one was that one was canada dry what is this one i'm good
20:01you're my baby drink more this is cough syrup this is this is yellow snow what is this a pissy
20:13pineapple
20:14but that's the brand hudson i have to guess the brand
20:19the vibe yeah this is schweps okay this one is schweps
20:28i am so happy that i'm not the one tasting these because if i was getting them wrong
20:34i'd feel like an idiot no i'm kidding
20:40stupid no you're not i mean they they really set you up give me another one
20:45canada do you have more bring me bring in how many more bring in the last one to me
20:53oh this one's a hard one thank you
20:59oh no
21:03uh-huh
21:09that's um that's fever tree ginger um um beer hudson what what what there's a there's a secondary flavor
21:26do you want to smell test too you want to do like no it's just ginger no but do like
21:30an aromatics test
21:34go full somme vibes do you smell that oh it's hard to it's hard to smell it's
21:41fucking ginger pear
21:43fucking it's ginger yeah i'm gonna be honest he would never be able to understand you can't taste
21:48that flavor at all what blood orange good job you can't taste that at all you put food coloring in
21:55you didn't put no blood orange in there i will say i kind of like this one though that one
22:00sounds
22:00nice i like all of them but i guess the brand did i not you killed it when did you
22:05first realize you
22:06clicked and what are some of your favorite memories from working together hmm i would say our first
22:13facetime outside of a chemistry read because at that point i was always shane he was always
22:17ilia but then when we first met over facetime before we went to toronto um we had so many like
22:26so much overlap of movies we liked actors we liked um art we liked and similar approaches to how we
22:33you know like to perform um that i immediately knew i think we clicked there and i think that's
22:39saying a lot because i think some of our our interests can be pretty niche the fact that there
22:43is overlap is yeah amazing yeah and favorite memories i would say all our laughs on set being in
22:51muskoka um was really beautiful there was a lot of like lounging around um you know it was just great
22:59my favorite memories of working with you are also the laughs what's what's like an inside joke that we just
23:05um died over the whole time um we had a storm the set that was also with oh yeah i
23:12would always be
23:12like if we couldn't afford extras our idea was we would just like do like a cattle call we used
23:20to
23:21joke that like we um because we would have like airport scenes and stuff where there would be like
23:25you know for an airport you need like you need a bunch of people and we'd have like five people
23:29and
23:30i just imagined um i imagined jacob being like being like costumes get up there and everyone's
23:36like taking off their mics and he's like storm the set opening the garage and just like opening it up
23:43to the public how does it feel to accidentally launch a workout movement i can't i honestly still cannot
23:51believe that that was someone's takeaway from this you know i like i think i look a little too shabby
23:58i'm i'm in the process of gaining weight you know now yeah i was when you look you look freaking
24:02fantastic well bring it back to me muchas gracias de nada corazón de melón
24:14yeah i people people like our bodies let's just be honest about it people you know i care about my
24:21health i care about my fitness as do you um honestly watching the show is making us work out
24:27even more yeah so what drew you to doing a fae romantic story and what was it about the script
24:32that hooked you for me it was exploring sensuality with with your voice you know that's the only
24:39tool you have and it kind of scared me a little bit and you know that there it was a
24:45really fun way to
24:47explore yourself it was fun it was actually fun and you know it's very demanding and it's well written
24:52i think in the booth the term winged hemingway came up you know fantastical hemingway because there
25:02was like war there's like this romance that's forbidden and it seems doomed uh in a lot of ways
25:09um and that was way heavier than i thought you know this would look like and it was really rewarding
25:17the story just moves really well too um it was just written really well uh as someone who you know
25:25is
25:26not a big reader i think something like this would be really appealing to me um just the way it
25:31cycles
25:32through the feelings it cycles through the years and point of view yeah yeah i just think it's really
25:37like almost physically well done why do you think mm romance resonates so strongly with women right
25:42now yeah we've we've both talked about this and kind of been intrigued by it um there's so many
25:51reasons there's so many reasons and then even just women you know there are straight women there are
25:56trans women there are um gay women like queer women it's it's um well that feels like a giant term
26:03to be
26:04like i know exactly why um you know there's like the element of you can live vicariously and you can
26:09feel safe um like with women this is just one opinion that i had never even considered or thought of
26:16um
26:17that i saw that i think you're alluding to which is if you are female um and you are
26:24you are taken out of the equation there's and you're you're there's a spectatorship to that
26:31there's like a there's a certain amount of separation that allows for safety you know
26:37like especially women um historically being put into a box in a certain way especially when it comes
26:42to sex and pleasure it feels like a nice separation to see sexuality and romance be lived out without
26:50um right female dynamic being yeah i i heard i heard someone online say a woman say that like
26:55like when you see like a hetero um couple you know you default to like relating with or forced to
27:03sort of relate with the woman character um and then that comes with a lot of restriction and two and
27:07like imagination a lot of writers you know are writing very conventionally um which means a lot of
27:14outdated tropes um old archetypes and i think you know with getting to watch two men it's like they
27:20can kind of relate with this person in one moment they're empathetic to this person they're not forced
27:24into a box of here this is your person to relate with at the end of the day though we're
27:29both men
27:30i have no idea what it's like to be a woman um yeah and so y'all let us know
27:35yeah y'all tell us
27:37i think me because i would just be i'd be drinking i'd be somewhere i'd be like under a table
27:45yeah asleep naked but i will say covered in this you're really freaking athletic and you're really
27:52strong and you know how to fight so if it came down to like a wrestling match between you and
27:57leather face freddy krueger i think you're taking the cake my boy i'm winning
28:04okay snack time me 100 yeah you have a little you have a tiny bit more reverence than i do
28:14um if
28:15something is overly serious i cannot help but laugh because i just become really like oh i become really
28:21aware of how do you do that kind of it's not that you left and now now i'm gonna leave
28:29connor will do the like the like it's like so serious he kind of gets a little take and then
28:34and i can't do his laugh do i do that do i do do i do a poly pocket hand
28:42i accept myself this is what we're rocking this we're rocking it i accept myself
28:48me oh oh yeah i'm i'm dirty you're like you're pretty clean i'd eat anything off the ground no
28:57not me online more than i yeah well i just love youtube i love the little like
29:03video essay on this movie essay on this little actor have you learned this about genghis khan and
29:09i'm like why what there's so much to know nerd are these book talk trivia things
29:15yeah heaven eats ass i don't know yeah heaven eats ass is that it really
29:21what is it happily ever after yeah okay
29:28okay this one's harder the rake and the cake the what the rake and the cake well
29:35you break up some some people together and then you ass yeah are these all gonna be ass related
29:41it they are for me the grumpy sunshine trip like the rake and the cake like oh right right
29:49oh i like i like that i like those i like those ones yeah i like the grump why teams
29:55why is this a
29:57love triangle thing mm-hmm threesome it scares me a little foot in both jars of peanut butter if you
30:03know what i mean don't make me nervous on twitter we're gonna react to some tweets you don't scare me
30:09connor's story you need to stop your face too smiley your ass too fat your line delivery too
30:15good they'll kill you you really i mean you end up on delivery too good yeah you i i'm i'm
30:20cool with
30:21that i feel good um i i whenever we read tweets i don't know if i'm supposed to like thank
30:27you or if
30:28i'm supposed to like yeah genuinely be like whoa i guess all of it kind of hudson williams's back dimples
30:37that's it that's the tweet oh i didn't realize i had these little back dimples but then i i saw
30:44the
30:44receipts and i saw my dimpled cheek back thing and uh we were all singing it yeah i was i
30:52was seeing it
30:53damn for real i love whatever is wrong with y'all my cynthia and ariana
31:04fine i'm invested in heated rivalry not because of their giant bouncy bullets but because it's a
31:11true yearner i'm a sucker for a good romance the yearning is is the thing i think that's that's
31:17probably the sexiest part for people honestly you want to know how we got these bodies if you yearn
31:21enough your ass gets fat despite all the memes i have enjoyed people seeing that physical intimacy
31:28isn't just spice on top of the romance but a vehicle to explore relationship dynamics
31:32and character and also physical and emotional intimacy are different but connected things
31:37jacob talks about this and that was one of the first things i think he brought to us
31:44to try and explain his vision which was you know when you read the scripts when you read the pages
31:49it
31:49can sound very sex heavy but to know that the sex really is just the foundation of their
31:55relationship and how they connect um yeah i think that is i think that i think that's kind of you
32:01know for the first years of their life that's how they communicate that's where their relationship
32:05builds and you know that's not usually how sex is used in media yeah yeah me dear i need hudson
32:13williams to know that so many people imagine draw right and read about him getting pregnant
32:19including me is that crazy oh he knows and even comments on yeah mara
32:24key to rival updates pointing this out to me i know when i learned that about it's crazy i was
32:29like whatever floats your boat you know um yeah i mean i i think that's like i think that's in
32:35the
32:35deep fanfic side yeah i don't understand it but i'm like you know what you freaks you gung-ho
32:42you go get it you know if you can go get fictional me pregnant fictional me knock him up
32:50this is another one about my butt again y'all aren't ready for this one connor's story deserves
32:56a-o-t-y what's a-o-t-y mean connor's story ass of the i don't like this tweet
33:02it should be ass of
33:03the century hey whoa whoa
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