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00:03Connor. Yes. We hear you love languages and accents. Other than Russian, what's your favorite?
00:10Ooh, I'm kind of always switching between languages. Right now, I really want to learn
00:16Spanish. I'm from West Texas, so I've always heard Spanish. And living in LA, there's Spanish
00:21everywhere. So it doesn't feel very, like, exotic to me because I've heard it my whole life. But
00:27I think it's sexy. Spanish is muy sexy. Yes, I think Colombian Spanish, I think, is the
00:36sexiest language there is. I like the traditional Spain-Spanish. Spain-Spanish. Vamos a la playa
00:41de Barcelona. Barcelona. Con Javier Bader. Yeah. Ana de Armas. Ana de Armas. She's Cuban,
00:50right? She's Cuban. Okay. Pretty girl. Okay. This year marks 20 years since Brokeback Mountain.
00:56Are there any MM romance movies, shows, or books that have really stuck with you either
01:00growing up or recently? Well, I love Brokeback Mountain. It was one of the first things that
01:05you told me. Yeah. I love Keith Ledger plays Ennis. I still think it's his best work. I think
01:11that was one of the first pivotal ones when you have two leading men take on, you know,
01:17gay cowboys. It's pretty bold. But then, you know, you have Call Me By Your Name, Moonlight,
01:22I think with Barry Jenkins saying, bringing the art house to the hood is what he said.
01:27That was already just a beautiful juxtaposition. And then having, you know, he said he wanted
01:33to redefine masculinity with that movie, which I thought was so cool.
01:36Yeah. Call Me By Your Name, I think, was like pretty revolutionary. Yeah. Yeah. I was in high
01:40school at that time. And I remember that being the first thing that felt like it was really a part
01:46of the cultural zeitgeist. And it also handled, like, it also handled queer stories in a really
01:52cool way where it was so under the surface and it made it so human, you know, which I think
01:59also
01:59was kind of like a moonlight scenario where we're taking these people in such a specific time and
02:05place and like letting them explore love. Right. What does SMUT mean to you?
02:14I'm going to try to make an acronym. Sexy. This is going to be in relation to, um,
02:20into, uh, Ember and Ice. Um, sexy. Magic. Um, universe.
02:38i have no idea what did i say sexy magic universe um titillating yeah yeah we'll do that titillating
02:50oh you very publicly shot your shot for Nightwing which was extremely fun to watch have you been a
02:58DC fan and what is it like to see fans instantly rally behind you especially the ones that say you
03:03have the face the talent and the butt I will be completely honest I when I saw like some fan
03:10art
03:10of you as Nightwing I was like blown away whoa like I I mean you never know if that's going
03:17to
03:17come to fruition or not but yeah I see like someone did you in the comic book style I was
03:22like I see it right away wow yeah I would I would love to play him I love DC I
03:28love I loved all
03:31like comic books that were true to the source material and I think you know there are a lot
03:40of good filmmakers who like bring their own style to these you know beloved um um comics that I think
03:47it would be really great to work with them you know I'm not fully set on Nightwing you know I'm
03:52open to
03:52other things um did you always want to be in like did is superheroes no always something that's been
03:59like absolutely not it's just it's when really good filmmaker it's it's filmmaker driven so when
04:06like a guy like James Gunn um or Matt Reeves you know comes to comics it I think that's what
04:12draws me
04:13um and and I heard James Gunn is doing the the Teen Titans I know there's yeah but yeah James
04:21Gunn
04:21he's in love with you true or false Hudson is more like Ilya in real life and Connor is more
04:27like Shane
04:28I think me and you are both like Rose and I'm like Svetlana I just said me and you are
04:34both like
04:35Rose but I'm just I'm just parting ways that's so Svetlana for you to say um I don't know I
04:42mean
04:43maybe I do feel like Ilya I don't know I think that um I I'm I'm too sensitive or outwardly
04:50sensitive or don't have a lot of shame around emotion to be Ilya I could be a little cocky like
04:55Ilya yeah but beyond that it's like I think Shane and Ilya sort of share us you know a soulfulness
05:03that's kind of buried under all these you know walls and kind of um uh masks but I think I
05:10think
05:11underneath that what we both relate with both of them is you know the the heart and and their soul
05:16after wrapping heated rivalry you two got matching tattoos that say sex sales and if true how did that
05:23happen um I did I have a reason for coming up to Vancouver I just want to come see yeah
05:28come hang
05:29out am I not good enough right come on yeah I just I don't know why for a second I
05:33was like I have
05:34something to do up there I have nothing to do in Vancouver I was there so yeah I just went
05:39up to see
05:40um I just came up to see you we knew we wanted to get matching tattoos I hadn't gotten a
05:45tattoo in
05:45forever um and we were just shuffling through ideas and yeah I think you came up with sex but
05:52like we were both pitching ideas and then like one person would like them the other person wouldn't
05:57and then when you said sex sales I was like oh we were sold that's the first idea you've had
06:01that's
06:01good I think it's honestly my most well done tattoo as well so that feels good the front of my
06:06shin
06:06pull in here zoom in true or false you ate a pound of beef of ground beef a day while
06:14filming heated
06:15rivalry true um Connor told me what his routine was and after I saw him in person um I asked
06:23him
06:23how he got to that size I thought he was taking illicit substances he wasn't he does it super clean
06:29sorry I mentioned illicit substances um but I have nothing to hide bring it on but he was so
06:37just like so I was like what are you eating freak I was like I'm eating and he just couldn't
06:46speak
06:47and he just kept doing that and I was like I think that means ground beef um you're like that
06:51level of
06:53capability is what I need and then Connor was actually the person who put me onto fiber because
06:57if you need to eat the protein you want to get you know ilia cheeks um and chests you need
07:04so much
07:04fiber just so your stomach doesn't shut down and you go into cardiac arrest and you get carried out
07:10from your your little workout on a stretcher with some you know pumped up pecs and a shut down
07:16fucking you look you look good digestive system it's really unfortunate if it ends that way yeah
07:20yeah I actually um I'm gonna one-up this true or false I actually think that we ate more than
07:26a pound
07:26of beef yeah because a pound of beef only has I think 84 grams of protein and you need a
07:31solid 200
07:32if you're going through size and shape so sometimes I can eat two pounds of ground beef a day plus
07:38like
07:3810 eggs yeah and so many salads I was having so much salad because by the end I got like
07:43gained 10
07:44pounds so like when I started shooting I was like and by the end I was like 10 pounds heavier
07:48and it's
07:49because of ground beef yeah you I mean you're very inspiring I'm glad that we had each other because
07:54it would have been really hard to be motivated if you know we were going back to our 12 hour
07:59days and
07:59then the gym and then like going back to a residence like alone it's really it's nice that I got
08:03to be
08:04like hi son let's go to gym and we would go from a fucking 11 hour day skating lesson and
08:11Connor would go
08:11let's do legs and I and I looked him he's a madman that's how he has a butt he'll finish
08:17a skating lesson
08:18that takes four hours and then go legs now and I was like what are you saying I okay I
08:24knew I had
08:25a responsibility to the people he's America's ass and I I take that very seriously romance readers are
08:34famously passionate about book adaptations did you feel any pressure being bringing a beloved story to
08:39life and how did you approach making the characters your own it's good I think to go into a project
08:45accepting that you know people might be disappointed especially with something like a book where everyone
08:50already has preconceived notions they've visioned they've envisioned these characters they've drawn
08:55these characters they've gotten tattoos of these characters like the love is already there so much
09:00that ultimately someone is going to be disappointed all you can do is is read the material as much as
09:08you
09:08possibly can yeah and um and respect it show the respect show the dedication and just hope that
09:16people you know connect with it and love it and see that enthusiasm I think we both had that level
09:21of
09:21whether you want to call it nihilism or not like people might just hate this people might hate your
09:26casting and they might hate my casting I'm not going to expect anything more and uh I'm just going to
09:32do
09:32the best I can but you have really no metric of if people are going to be warm to your
09:38your take I
09:39really think at the end of the day all you can do is be really intentional give it a hundred
09:44and fifty
09:44percent yeah just go for it you know yeah and luckily for us this worked out really freaking well
09:55Hudson we have heard rumors about a very serious multi-step korean skincare routine can you break
10:00it down for us it's not that lengthy yeah I always made fun of you for it too because I
10:05like honestly
10:06I'm just kind of jealous because you have really good skin um but I was like yeah your skin routine
10:11and then it's actually not that long it's not that long it's okay I'm going to tell you
10:15in the morning I use water to cleanse my face warm water and then I put on a glow toner
10:23but it's
10:24pretty dry it's not like I don't like when people have like dewy like if I see someone it looks
10:28like
10:28they just wore a face mask I'm like why are you out right now like go go wipe that off
10:32and then come
10:33talk to me because I won't right now um and then so my toner and then I'll put on um
10:38a serum
10:40and then sunscreen and then sometimes instead of a serum I put on a moisturizer and then my
10:45p.m. routine is an oil cleanser you know to get out these blackheads to get the the gunk out
10:51um
10:51and then I'll either use like a CeraVe normal ass cleanser or I'll use like a poor shrinking cleanser
10:58that's their new that's their new slogan CeraVe normal ass cleanser I think that is I yeah I also
11:07and then like a poor shrink or a poor shrinking cleanser if that's my goal and then the same thing
11:11toner serum and then either a retinol or a salicylic acid and then I go to fucking sleep
11:18so I think everyone in the studio agrees that was a lot well I will also say I mean it
11:25makes sense you
11:25have flawless skin so and then when I take it off it just falls apart yeah he unhooks the he
11:32unhooks
11:33the clip back here in the back keeps it all up Connor yes story yes do you have a favorite
11:40spicy
11:40scene from heated rivalry and a favorite from Ember and Ice what makes those stand out for you
11:44my favorite spicy scene from Ember and Ice is actually a scene where Dane um is with two former
11:51lovers Cassandra and Elijah yep I need you to I need you to be here with me okay um Dane
12:03has an
12:04interaction with uh two of his former lovers um after having been with Finn for some time
12:10and uh yeah not to spoil but he he ends up realizing that what what really works for him isn't
12:18working for
12:19him anymore and it's kind of this moment of identity loss and you know what what pleases me isn't
12:25pleasing me the same I think that's really cool because it's also it's because it's cool because
12:29it's like sexy and spicy but it also is really revealing of the character and the connection and
12:35where he's at you know um and I think it's funny I think I remember Dane saying something about um
12:40he's like he's like and then the next thing I did was I just had to come up with uh
12:45an excuse
12:46and then he's like he's like my friends I have bad news I have a lot from Ember and Ice
12:51but one
12:52is the lake scene where we kind of go in together and you kind of coax it out of me
12:57without spoiling
12:58too much I think that one's just you know a lot of times like the intimacy before intimacy I think
13:04it
13:05has more of a charge in a way that one really got me um frothing at the mouth and heated
13:11rivalry
13:13favorite intimate scene there's one that was really fun to film do you remember filming the
13:17stair step scene when we're like kissing against the glass and our lips never come apart me and you
13:23were like do people do this do people like I know it's always a fun balance right of like when
13:28you're
13:29filming um separate from like the audio space when you're filming it's like how much of it is fun
13:37TV and then how much of it is like is like true sex because at the end of the day
13:42you know you do
13:42have in real life people do have those those like movie moments where you're like you know you're like
13:48yeah yeah and then everyone on set was like oh yeah no we I've done that and then Connor and
13:52I were
13:53like oh oh we usually fold our clothes place them down then go about chain naked and go sex now
14:00sex
14:01now I'm robot plug me in true or false Hudson's roommates once kept a mooning tally of how many
14:09times he flashed them do you know how many times I know that you I've yeah remember this yep it's
14:16true
14:17it was one roommate um and I I mooned him 31 times what was his reaction when you moved him
14:25was he
14:26like Hudson her poor name was Chelsea I I've talked with her and Chelsea has been like you can say
14:32my
14:33name and I was like so I've since talked about this since double consent uh double consent um and uh
14:39poor
14:39Chelsea would just go I think her main reaction was like oh Hudson and it made me so happy
14:50where where is Chelsea now and I I developed different techniques over the years um she's
14:56chilling she's got a cat that's like hanging off her walls um but I would go and I would do
15:00like a
15:01drive-by at all these different techniques and then she would bring like other you know um romantic
15:06interests home and then they're like what's this tally up on the board and they're like oh that's
15:10how many times Hudson my roommate has mooned me and they were like would you just like kind of butt
15:16crack
15:16it or would you full so I had one where I would get pants low like I would de-pants
15:22and she would be
15:23unassuming like maybe on her phone on the couch and I would run by and jump in the air so
15:28I was like a
15:30like like a like a literal moon a literal moon but in fast motion sometimes I would just do the
15:35like oh
15:36drop something before we leave bend and I'm right there gotcha oh god
15:42yes no they they got very athletic but we need to clarify if you were going to moon someone yeah
15:48a close friend Chelsea is still my close friend make it and make it known that this is okay yep
15:53she got a who do not moon people you don't know in places it's not okay Hudson as an Asian
16:01actor
16:01leading such a hugely popular queer romance what kind of stories or roles are you excited for
16:06more people to see you in going forward hmm yeah I I wanna I wanna represent my my wajins out
16:15there
16:15you know um I've been declared do you know about this I'm declared the I think princess or prince of
16:23wajia
16:25me I mean I I sign off on it okay I think you he's the final stamp off guy for
16:30this so uh yeah I'm
16:33the I'm the ambassador of wajia as a fully as a completely Caucasian yes but uh as as uh this
16:41um
16:41little wajian I am I hope to just do roles that aren't always charged with you know I'm happy to
16:50do
16:51roles that are you know race has something to to play in there but also I just want to be
16:55an actor
16:56and a lot of the times I just want to play parts where it's like I'm I'm just there and
17:01we don't
17:02need to go in my backstory or whatever it's just you know I'm playing with any other uh non
17:09person of color would play as well you know you're a person you want to be treated I'm a person
17:14love it baby on both heated rivalry and ember and ice you worked with an intimacy coordinator
17:20why do you think that role matters on projects like this was there anything about the process
17:24that you think would surprise people wow I mean I think it's so um yeah that's a yeah that question
17:32is I mean it's so important I mean you you literally can't do things without that role um the thing
17:41that
17:41I think would shock people about the role of intimacy coordinating is it's not just about
17:47and this is what I learned from chayla originally and then also jamie doing this it's not just about
17:52the actual safety the boundaries monitoring what's going on what that looks like making sure everyone's
17:59okay there's also actually a conjunction of an artistic edge where you are like jamie with this you know
18:07was also the voice that was reminding us this is how long it's been since this happened you know
18:12you need to I need to hear that shiver or that I need to hear those um I need to
18:18hear that feeling
18:19through your wings I need to see that come about I need to feel that pleasure in this way so
18:25it's not
18:25always technical even though that's what I feel like is brought up a lot there is also an artistic
18:30sensibility to that job and that really promotes that conversation absolutely bring in the first
18:37ginger ale this is so fun we have canada dry we have Schweppes we have can you can someone give
18:44me
18:44a rundown of the brand nope you're gonna try it and we're gonna go I don't I've only named two
18:49from memory well how about this I'll hold it so we don't we don't give away anything
18:58yep that's my Hudson that's my Hudson
19:03that's not canada dry this is some shitty american ginger ale this is like Schweppes or like um yeah
19:12that's my guess you said it's not canada dry why is it not canada dry yeah canada dry has got
19:17more
19:17ginger in it and more bubble in it it's just subtle ginger yeah go ahead and should we de-blindful
19:27you god we got you where is this imported from this this is this is no no way it says
19:37from frisco
19:38texas nope i don't i don't this is it changed it changed bring in ginger ale number two
19:47that is so embarrassing thank you so much this one was that one was canada dry what is this one
19:56um you're my baby drink more okay this is cough syrup this is this is yellow snow what is this
20:12a pissy pineapple but that's the brand hudson i have to guess the brand
20:20yeah this is Schweppes okay this one is Schweppes
20:28i am so happy that i'm not the one tasting these because if i was getting them wrong
20:34i'd feel like an idiot no i'm kidding stupid no you're not i mean they they really set you up
20:44give
20:44me another one do you have more bring me bring in how many more bring in the last one bring
20:51it to me
20:51oh this one's a hard one thank you oh no
21:04uh-huh
21:09that's um that's fever tree ginger um um beer hudson
21:18what what what what there's a there's a secondary flavor
21:25do you want to smell test too you want to do like no it's just ginger no but do like
21:30an aromatics test
21:34go full somme vibes do you smell that oh it's hard to it's hard to smell it's
21:41ginger pear it's ginger yeah i'm going to be honest he would never be able to understand you
21:47can't taste that flavor at all what blood orange good job you can't taste that at all you put food
21:55coloring in you didn't put no blood orange in there i will say i kind of like this one though
21:59that one's
22:00nice i like all of them but i guess the brand did i not you killed it when did you
22:05first realize you
22:06clicked and what are some of your favorite memories from working together um i would say
22:13our first face time outside of a chemistry read because at that point i was always shane he was
22:17always ilia but then when we first met over face time before we went to toronto um we had so
22:25many like so much overlap of movies we liked actors we liked um art we liked and similar approaches
22:32to how we you know like to perform um that i immediately knew i think we clicked there and i
22:38think that's saying a lot because i think some of our our interests can be pretty niche the fact that
22:43there is overlap is amazing yeah and favorite memories i would say all our laughs on set being in
22:51misskoka um was really beautiful there was a lot of like lounging around um you know it was just great
22:59my favorite memories of working with you are also the laughs what's what's like an inside joke that
23:04we just died over the whole time um we had a storm the set that was also with oh yeah
23:11i would always
23:12be like if we couldn't afford extras our idea was we would just like do like a cattle call we
23:20used to
23:21joke that like we um because we would have like airport scenes and stuff where there would be like
23:25you know for an airport you need like you need a bunch of people and we'd have like five people
23:29and i just imagined um i imagined jacob being like being like costumes get up there and everyone's like
23:37taking off their mics and he's like storm the set opening the garage and just like opening it up to
23:43the
23:43public how does it feel to accidentally launch a workout movement i can't i honestly still cannot believe
23:51that that was someone's takeaway from this you know i like i think i look a little too shabby i'm
23:58i'm in
23:59the process of gaining weight you know now yeah i was when you look you look freaking fantastic well
24:03bring it back to most of us but just got out here they're not going to fund the mail on
24:13um yeah i people people like our bodies let's just be honest about it people you know i care about
24:20my health i care about my fitness as do you um honestly watching the show is making us work out
24:27even more yeah so what drew you to doing a fay romanicy story and what was it about the script
24:32that hooked
24:33you for me it was exploring sensuality with with your voice you know that's the only tool you have
24:40and it kind of scared me a little bit and you know that there it was a really fun way
24:46to explore yourself
24:47it was fun it was actually fun and you know it's very demanding and it's well written i think in
24:53the
24:53booth the term winged hemingway came up you know fantastical hemingway because there was like
25:02war there's like this romance that's forbidden and it seems doomed uh in a lot of ways um and that
25:11was way heavier than i thought you know this would look like and it was really rewarding the story just
25:18moves really well too um it was just written really well uh as someone who you know is not a
25:26big reader
25:27i think something like this would be really appealing to me um just the way it cycles through
25:32the feelings it cycles through the years and point of view yeah yeah i just think it's really like
25:37almost physically well done why do you think mm romance resonates so strongly with women right now
25:46yeah we've we've both talked about this and kind of been intrigued by it um there's so many reasons
25:51there's so many reasons and then even just women you know there are straight women there are trans women
25:56there are um gay women like queer women it's it's um well that feels like a giant term to be
26:04like i
26:04don't know exactly why um you know there's like the element of you can live vicariously and you can feel
26:10safe um like with women this is just one opinion that i had never even considered or thought of um
26:17that i
26:17i saw that i think you're alluding to which is if you are female um and you are you are
26:25taken out of
26:26the equation there's and you're you're there's a spectatorship to that there's like a there's a
26:33certain amount of separation that allows for safety you know like especially women um historically being
26:39put into a box in a certain way especially when it comes to sex and pleasure it feels like a
26:44nice
26:44separation to see sexuality and romance be lived out without um right female dynamic being yeah i i
26:53heard i heard someone online say a woman say that like when you see like a hetero um couple you
26:59know
26:59you default to like relating with or forced to sort of relate with the woman character um and then that
27:05comes with a lot of restriction and two and like imagination a lot of writers you know are writing very
27:11conventionally um which means a lot of outdated tropes um old archetypes and i think you know with
27:18getting to watch two men it's like they can kind of relate with this person in one moment they're
27:22empathetic to this person they're not forced into a box of here this is your person to relate with
27:26at the end of the day though we're both men i have no idea what it's like to be a
27:31woman um yeah and so
27:34y'all let us know yeah y'all tell us i think me because i would just be i'd be
27:41drinking i'd be
27:43somewhere i'd be like under a table yeah asleep naked but i will say you yes you're really freaking
27:51athletic and you're really strong and you know how to fight so if it came down to like a wrestling
27:56match between you and leather face freddy krueger i think you're taking the cake my boy i'm winning
28:02whoo okay snack time me 100 yeah you have a little you have a tiny bit more reverence than
28:13i do um if something is overly serious i cannot help but laugh because i just become really like
28:20oh i become really aware of how do you do that kind of
28:25you left and now now i'm gonna leave
28:32it's like so serious he kind of gets a little take and i can't do his laugh do i do
28:36that do i do
28:36do i do a polly pocket hand
28:42i accept myself this is what we're rocking this we're rocking it i accept myself
28:48me oh oh yeah i'm i'm dirty you're like you're pretty clean
28:52i don't eat anything off the ground no not me online more than i yeah well i just love youtube
29:01i love the little like video essay on this movie essay on this little actor have you learned this
29:08about genghis khan and i'm like why what there's so much to know nerd are these book talk trivia things
29:15yeah heaven eats ass i don't know yeah heaven eats ass is that it really what is it
29:22happily ever after yeah okay
29:28okay this one's harder the rake and the cake the what the rake and the cake well you break up
29:36some some
29:36people together and then you ass yeah are these all going to be ass related they are for me
29:47oh right right right oh i like i like that i like those i like those ones yeah i like
29:54the grump
29:54why tubes why is this a love triangle thing um threesome
30:02foot in both jars of peanut butter if you know what i mean
30:05don't make me nervous on twitter we're gonna react to some tweets you don't scare me connor's
30:09story you need to stop your face too smiley your ass too fat juicy your line delivery too good
30:15they'll kill you you really i mean you end up line delivery too good yeah you i i'm i'm cool
30:21with
30:21that i feel good um i i whenever we read tweets i don't know if i'm supposed to like thank
30:27you
30:27or if i'm supposed to like yeah genuinely be like whoa i guess all of it kind of
30:33hudson williams's back dimples that's it that's the tweet oh i didn't realize i had these little
30:42back dimples but then i i saw the receipts and i saw my dimpled cheek back thing and uh we
30:50were
30:50all singing it yeah i was i was seeing it damn for real i love whatever is wrong with y
30:56'all
30:56oh my cynthia and ariana
31:04fine i'm invested in heated rivalry not because of their giant bouncy but because it's a true
31:11yearner i'm a sucker for a good romance the yearning is is the thing i think that's that's
31:17probably the sexiest part for people honestly you want to know how we got these bodies you're
31:21enough your ass gets fat despite all the memes i have enjoyed people seeing that physical intimacy
31:28isn't just spice on top of the romance but a vehicle to explore relationship dynamics
31:32and character and also physical and emotional intimacy are different but connected things
31:37jacob talks about this and that was one of the first things i think he brought to us
31:43um to try and explain his vision which was you know when you read the scripts when you read the
31:48pages it
31:49can sound very sex heavy but to know that the sex really is just the foundation of their relationship
31:56and how they connect um yeah i think that is i think that i think that's kind of you know
32:01for the
32:02first years of their life that's how they communicate that's where their relationship builds and you know
32:07that's not usually how sex is used in media yep meteor i need hudson williams to know that so many
32:14people imagine draw right and read about him getting pregnant including me is that crazy oh he knows
32:22and even comments on yeah mara he derived updates pointing this out to me i know when i learned that
32:27about it's crazy i was like whatever floats your boat you know um yeah i mean i i think that's
32:34like
32:34i think that's in the deep fanfic side yeah i don't understand it but i'm like you know what you
32:41freaks you gung-ho you go get it you know if you can go get fictional me pregnant fictional me
32:48knock him up this is another one about my butt again y'all aren't ready for this one connor story
32:55deserves a-o-t-y what's a-o-t-y mean connor story ass of the i don't like this
33:01tweet it should be
33:03a-o-t-y ass of the century hey whoa whoa
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