00:00I need to start with that opening number you guys do in House of Villains.
00:03It was a very perfect couple on Netflix.
00:12What was your initial reaction when they told you you'd have to learn a choreographed dance?
00:16I mean, nothing surprised me in House of Villains.
00:19There were so many surprises, so many wacky ideas floating around
00:22that you just had to lean in and participate and dance.
00:27Well, you were not the only Bravo Liberty this season.
00:30What was your reaction to finding out Tom Sandoval was also going to be in the House?
00:33I was actually very excited to, like, see what he's like in person.
00:37Like, is he really the Tom Sandoval that we've seen on Vanderpump?
00:41And he is. Yeah, he is.
00:44Having now done a competition show with Tom,
00:46would you be open to doing some kind of Traders All-Star season with him, too?
00:50I don't know if he would qualify for All-Stars, you know?
00:54Um, I think he's good TV, but I don't think he's a mastermind at gameplay.
00:59Um, one last question on him, because his looks have been brought up a lot.
01:02I know New York thought he was either Leonardo DiCaprio or Jackie Chan's youngest grandson.
01:07You're not Leonardo DiCaprio, right?
01:09No, I'm not.
01:10Well, Jackie Chan's youngest grandson.
01:12No.
01:12Who are you? You're beautiful.
01:13There's also been a lot of comments about his chin implant.
01:16Was it that obvious to everyone that he's had work done?
01:19Or did he share that?
01:20What was it about his looks that were...
01:22I honestly didn't notice anything remarkable about his appearance,
01:25except that I just knew he took very, very good care of himself.
01:29Like, his nighttime routine was probably longer than all of the girls combined.
01:32Well, when you first got to the house,
01:33there was some tension between you and New York when you didn't know her name.
01:36Nice to meet you. What's your name?
01:42Don't hold your hand out.
01:43Oh, hell.
01:44Did you actually not know who she was?
01:46I didn't know if she preferred New York or Tiffany, so I thought I was being polite.
01:50But only in the house of villains can manners offend people.
01:53Yeah, exactly.
01:54And that was a really interesting way to enter the house.
01:57I was like, oh, man, what have I gotten myself into?
02:00Just an introduction is a problem.
02:02People have been rooting for your enemies to, like, besties arc.
02:05Would you say that that held up on the show, that you guys stayed close friends?
02:09And how often are you guys in contact these days?
02:11I love New York.
02:13I don't know how much she loves me, but that's kind of, like, her vibe.
02:17It's her appeal.
02:18She's, like, very, you have to earn her attention.
02:21I sent her a DM after we left the house, and she took four months to respond.
02:26But she did eventually respond.
02:27So I think there's hope.
02:29You and Johnny are really going at it.
02:31You guys are enemies.
02:32And it all started when he tried to mansplain Jojo Siwa's career to you.
02:36I never would have done Special Forces.
02:38And he goes, it was only 10 days of your life.
02:40You might get a crazy check from it, and you're putting your face back out there.
02:43He just kept correcting me.
02:45Did you ever think that Jojo Siwa would be the reason that you ended up on the chopping block?
02:49And have you heard from her at all?
02:50What is this life?
02:51You know, I couldn't believe that he was trying to explain to me something that I wasn't even like,
02:58he had no dog in this race.
02:59Why are you being difficult?
03:02But I hope Jojo Siwa does season four of House of Villains now.
03:05Yes.
03:05You know, she seems to love a competition show.
03:08She was in a desert with Tom Sandoval.
03:10Why not go to House of Villains?
03:12Yeah, right?
03:12It might be a little easier than the other one.
03:14I know.
03:15I think so.
03:16She might love it.
03:16Yeah.
03:17Well, do you still think she's only signing on for all these shows because she's broke?
03:21I hope not.
03:23I mean, I can't imagine any other reason you would go out to the desert where you don't have a
03:27toilet.
03:27You know, I hope to never reach that point in my life, ever.
03:30But, um, she's in love now, so maybe they'll both come to House of Villains.
03:35That's true.
03:36So we will not be seeing you on Special Forces season five.
03:39Never.
03:39Yeah.
03:40Never, ever, ever.
03:41I don't blame you.
03:42No.
03:42I barely even like to do, like, the challenges and missions on these shows.
03:45They're pretty simple.
03:46You know, we're talking about Johnny.
03:48He also thought you were trying to insult him by saying he was on Love Island.
03:51You see where you're standing?
03:52I'm glad you're a supervillain.
03:54You belong here.
03:55Love Island, there's no dialogue.
03:57That's where you thrive.
03:58I'm wondering, in the reality TV world, is there a stigma surrounding those who kind of get famous off of
04:04shows like Love Island?
04:06I mean, I actually love Love Island.
04:08I love it so much.
04:09So I was just insulting him because he was coming after me, and that was it.
04:13It has nothing to do with Love Island.
04:15I mean, we love Rob on Traders.
04:17I mean, and Maura from Traders, she's Love Island alum.
04:21I love Alandria.
04:23It's a great show.
04:24No, I was insulting him because I think he's stupid, not because he's from Love Island.
04:28What were your thoughts on Ashley and Johnny hooking up?
04:31Do you think that they were kind of playing the house like it was Love Island?
04:34I mean, y'all would want to have a good time with Johnny Middlebrooks, too, if you were stuck in
04:37a bedroom with them 24-7.
04:40Is he ready for battle now?
04:47It's always interesting to me, whether it's Traders or House of Villains, everyone brings the energy from the respective show
04:53they came from.
04:53Like, the Bachelor pilot Pete, he, like, fell in love with Aiken Sue because he's used to romance.
04:58And the challenge people from MTV are a little bit more flirty and hooky-uppy.
05:03And it's just so funny how everybody acts the way they did learn on their show.
05:08We also saw Plain Jane read Paul for Phil.
05:12I should have known better than to trust a low-budget Drake impersonator.
05:16You think you look hot.
05:18Your upper body is way bigger than your legs.
05:21You've been skipping leg day, bitch.
05:22What was going through your mind at that moment?
05:24Because you were also standing up there.
05:26I mean, everybody was just using that stage as an opportunity to, like, roast each other.
05:32And that's actually the fun of the show.
05:34Like, how often are you encouraged to just, like, be a little snarky?
05:38I love it.
05:39What did you think of New York kind of...
05:41She was almost kind of pushing for people to banish her as opposed to Plain Jane after she gave that,
05:48you know, heartfelt speech and everything.
05:50What did you think of that?
05:50Do you think it was a tactic?
05:52Or do you...
05:52Okay.
05:52Everybody has their own strategy.
05:53I will say New York in season one and two, she didn't win.
05:57So I think maybe she's trying new strategies.
05:59I don't know why she was doing that, but she seemed to think it would be effective.
06:04I, of course, have to get some of your thoughts on other things going on in the reality TV world.
06:09You know, Daisy just took over as Chief Stew on Below Deck Down Under.
06:12How do you think she's doing in that franchise?
06:15She's always been such a strong Chief Stew, especially because she came from the sail yacht world.
06:19And, like, they're real sailors.
06:21Like, they really, they could get home on a sailboat with, like, rope and stuff.
06:24And us, the audience would be like, where's the buttons?
06:25Where do we press?
06:26So I've always respected her work ethic.
06:28And I think she's doing a great job.
06:29Yeah.
06:30And then also Chef Ben is back.
06:32Why was it a good time for him to return to Below Deck?
06:34And do you have any FOMO?
06:36He called me a couple times while he was out there filming and working because he's been out of it
06:42for a while.
06:43And it's a really intense job.
06:45But he's an incredible chef.
06:47And I think it was healthy for him to prove to himself he could still do that long six weeks
06:52of work.
06:53Yeah.
06:53Yeah, it's a lot.
06:54Are you sure you're there with him?
06:55No.
06:56No.
06:57That ship has sailed.
06:58Well, Alicia chose to leave the galley instead of work with him.
07:01I was making phone calls two days ago to stewardess.
07:04I'm just telling you right now, it won't work for the whole season.
07:07So either we need to find another sous chef and I step down or I become a stewardess and stay
07:12on the boat.
07:13Do you think she should have stuck it out a little bit longer?
07:15Oh, no, no, no, no, no.
07:17That was never going to work out because the galley, if you can't stand the heat, yeah, the kitchen is
07:22a saying, right?
07:22And especially on a boat, it's a small kitchen.
07:24So if you're not good, it's going to get uncomfortable pretty quickly.
07:30I think a lot of people were shocked to hear that you and Captain Lee aren't as close as you
07:34guys used to be.
07:35Was there something that happened?
07:36Did you just drift away?
07:37Yeah, we drifted, you know.
07:40I don't live in Fort Lauderdale anymore.
07:42Neither of us work on boats anymore.
07:43It's just life.
07:46Would you be open to doing another project with him if it came up?
07:49You know, anything's possible.
07:50And I know we've kind of talked a little bit about Traders.
07:52You're an icon in the Traders universe.
07:54What did you think about this last season?
07:57What did you think about Rob's gameplay?
07:59Do you think Maura's going to be getting that Birkin?
08:01I need to know all your thoughts.
08:03I think Rob played an incredible game he deserved to win.
08:06I think it's really fun as the seasons progress to see people kind of watching the show and understanding the
08:12gameplay more and more.
08:13I think every season's only going to get better and better because people are kind of seeing what works, what
08:16doesn't, and applying their own strategy.
08:19Is there anybody you'd like to see on the next season?
08:21I would love Chef Ben to do it because he's very manipulative.
08:25He's a great liar.
08:26He's got a British accent.
08:27He's going to feel right at home.
08:28He went to boarding school with the royal family, so a castle is going to be like second nature.
08:32Oh, my gosh.
08:32Well, one last quick question for you because you've done Below Deck, Traders, now House of Villains.
08:36Are there any other shows you'd like to cross off your bucket list?
08:39Obviously not Special Forces.
08:41Definitely not.
08:41I mean, would I do Dancing with the Stars?
08:44I don't know.
08:45That would be really fun.
08:46That would be fun, right?
08:47I used to dance in high school on a dance.
08:48Do you know who you'd want to be partnered with if that were...
08:51I mean, Mark.
08:52He just seems like a genius.
08:54And he's Traders now, so we'd have that in common.
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