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00:03:10There's no traffic no aggravation nice
00:03:52I've been relieving Sanchez for the last five years ever since she got back from Iraq
00:03:58She's more a man than all the other guys on the 4 to 12 put together
00:04:03She's like a friend
00:04:05We share a vice
00:04:07Hey
00:04:10August 10th, did you go?
00:04:12Check it out, here
00:04:177E
00:04:18Self-portrait?
00:04:19Oh, you gotta email me this, put it on my MySpace
00:04:22Hey, when you leaving?
00:04:24In the morning
00:04:25You crazy?
00:04:27Man, you should have took a sick day, come over to my place
00:04:29Me and Tina gonna watch A&E, they got a son of Sam documentary on
00:04:33Being his anniversary when they caught him
00:04:35Nah, your name's on the schedule, you show up
00:04:38I hate it when the guard relieves him, he's a no-show
00:04:41Ain't right
00:04:42Screw that
00:04:43If I was going on my vacation the next day, I'd tell him all to blow me
00:04:47I thought that's what Tina was for
00:04:50So what'd you hidden?
00:04:53Definitely his boyhood home
00:04:55Sure
00:04:56And the juvie facility that had him in
00:04:59Still there?
00:05:00Yeah, closed it in 2000, but it's still there
00:05:03Definitely wanna see that
00:05:05What about the church?
00:05:07Yeah
00:05:08Church and the shed
00:05:09Up in the hills
00:05:15Wow
00:05:16Carl Meisler
00:05:18You really doing it
00:05:20Now one of these years, I'm gonna go with you
00:05:22Nah, my trip's on my own, you know that
00:05:27Big Jim's going to Cali
00:05:30Hey, if you see Jessica Alba
00:05:32Bang her for me
00:05:34Hollywood
00:05:35It's for faggots
00:05:37Going about 150 miles north of that shithole
00:05:40Take plenty of pictures
00:05:42Go fuck yourself
00:05:48I've been at Post One 15 years almost
00:05:51I got job security
00:05:54Mostly because no one wants my shift
00:05:57Most guards hate it down here
00:06:00Down here you're vulnerable
00:06:02A couple guards been robbed
00:06:04Been too drive-by shootings
00:06:07They all say it's too lonely
00:06:11They go nuts after a few weeks
00:06:14But not me
00:06:16I never get lonely
00:06:20I love it down here
00:06:24And this doctor
00:06:25This little Jew fucker
00:06:27The court made me see
00:06:27After I got out of the hospital
00:06:28Said it wasn't no good
00:06:29Me being alone too much
00:06:34Said it was unhealthy
00:06:37I thought he was full of shit
00:06:40I mean the world's all fucked up
00:06:42Because nobody ever gets a chance
00:06:43To be alone anymore
00:06:46You got your emails
00:06:48Answering machines
00:06:49Personal computers
00:06:52You always got someone up your ass
00:06:55Makes people crazy
00:06:58You're none of that shit down at Post One
00:07:01That's why I like it down here
00:07:04It's quiet
00:07:07Gives you plenty of think time
00:07:15For if you're sleeping
00:07:29There's one you go
00:07:30You're a little thing
00:07:32I'm not saying
00:07:32There's two things
00:07:32Help me
00:07:32Your room
00:07:34You're already
00:07:35You're only there
00:07:36Have you got something
00:07:38You're in the middle style
00:07:38You're only trying toùng
00:08:18A morning rush.
00:08:20A long line of people going to their deaths.
00:08:23Morning, sunshine.
00:08:25I know they hate their lives.
00:08:28We're all caught in the same trap.
00:08:30You, hey, hey, hey.
00:08:32Todd, you gotta get your window fixed.
00:08:34Come on, people aren't gonna think you have a job.
00:08:36Get out of here.
00:08:38They're all sluts.
00:08:40Drug addicts.
00:08:42War mongers.
00:08:43Child molesters.
00:08:45I know they hate me.
00:08:47And they hate all the guards.
00:08:49Grumpy.
00:08:50Come on, Grumpy, get up here.
00:08:52Come on.
00:08:53I've been at this way too long not to know that.
00:08:56All right, have a great day.
00:08:58You see, they don't trust us.
00:08:59Look at you.
00:09:01You're the sunshine in my day.
00:09:02They think we're going through their desks and offices at night when they go home, and they're right.
00:09:07We are.
00:09:08We are worse than what they're paying us to keep out.
00:09:12So for 30 seconds each day, we all pretend we're buddies.
00:09:24Miss Newt book?
00:09:25Yeah.
00:09:26Every day this week, some of the onions.
00:09:29When's Petey getting back from the running city?
00:09:31Be back Friday.
00:09:34Degenerate gambler that he has packed yet?
00:09:38You know me, Ma.
00:09:39I've been packed for two weeks.
00:09:41California, right?
00:09:43Yeah.
00:09:44Little town called Hedicom.
00:09:46It's in my farm country.
00:09:49Farm country?
00:09:50This guy was a, uh, mass murder arsonist.
00:09:54Oh, lovely, yeah.
00:09:56Fucking awesome.
00:09:57Oh, great.
00:09:58Carl Marsnap.
00:09:59He burned down a church in 68.
00:10:01Killed a bunch of people.
00:10:02What the hell's wrong with people?
00:10:04Well, this guy was a gang wreck as a kid.
00:10:10That'll fuck you up, Ma.
00:10:15I don't get what you do.
00:10:16Right.
00:10:17You know, it's...
00:10:21Very macabre to me.
00:10:22Yeah, macabre.
00:10:24What about those people that go to the grassy knoll?
00:10:26What about them?
00:10:28To see where Kennedy's head exploded.
00:10:30Who's the president?
00:10:31And somehow, that's not weird.
00:10:34But what I do is.
00:10:38I don't know.
00:10:39Maybe you're right.
00:10:41I mean, I went to Graceland.
00:10:44Same thing.
00:10:44Same thing.
00:10:45He died in the shitter.
00:10:46He died in the shitter?
00:10:47Mm-hmm.
00:10:48Did they take pictures?
00:10:49Absolutely.
00:10:50No.
00:10:53I don't understand that.
00:11:00Good gene attack.
00:11:05You always smell so good.
00:11:09Thank you, sweetie.
00:11:11Just take care of yourself.
00:11:13Make sure that wherever you're staying,
00:11:15you go down by the pool.
00:11:17Relax.
00:11:19What do you want me to bring you back?
00:11:21I'll trust you.
00:11:24I'm gonna get that sundae going for you.
00:11:28Just be careful.
00:11:53You never took me to ballgames.
00:11:56Always cemeteries.
00:11:57You said they were peaceful.
00:12:01You hardly ever spoke.
00:12:03I didn't care.
00:12:03I just like being with you.
00:12:06You put something in my blood, Pop.
00:12:10You made me a grief tourist.
00:12:36Proudly slept.
00:12:38The rain clouded by the flames.
00:12:47As on, it glided through the trees.
00:12:56Still following with glee the late call.
00:13:27Mr. Tana, the room is $49 a day.
00:13:31Very clean.
00:13:31My sister-in-law over cleans herself.
00:13:34I hope you got air conditioning.
00:13:36It's hot as hell out there.
00:13:39Yes.
00:13:40Yes, yes.
00:13:41Cool.
00:13:42Nice place at night.
00:13:44Good to hide.
00:13:48I'm on vacation.
00:13:51How long do you stay?
00:13:54Four nights.
00:13:58You got something about a pool?
00:14:01Here is your key, room 21.
00:14:04We have no pool.
00:14:05But it's good to look at the beautiful pool.
00:14:07We girls anyway.
00:14:09Enjoy.
00:14:26You got something about a pool.
00:14:27You got something about a pool.
00:14:28You got something about a pool.
00:14:29You got something about a pool.
00:14:29You got something about a pool.
00:14:29You got something about a pool.
00:14:29You got something about a pool.
00:14:29You got something about a pool.
00:14:29You got something about a pool.
00:14:29You got something about a pool.
00:14:32You got something about a pool.
00:14:34You got something about a pool.
00:14:37You got something about a pool.
00:15:00The place is a dump, but I like it.
00:15:04It's cheap.
00:15:06There's better ways to spend your money on vacation
00:15:08than in a room you're hardly ever in.
00:15:58It's cheap.
00:16:26It's cheap.
00:16:30It's cheap.
00:16:33At the age of 13, after numerous acts of arson, Marsnap was remanded to the infamous Grimes
00:16:38Reformatory, a facility known for its draconian punishments and ability to turn wayward boys
00:16:46into hardened criminals overnight.
00:17:04Locked-down dormitories.
00:17:09This is where they kept you.
00:17:19When you came to Grimes, you were full of rage for your parents.
00:17:23By the time you left, you were full of rage for the whole goddamn world.
00:17:34When you got here, some older boys pulled you screaming into the bathroom and knocked your
00:17:38teeth out so you couldn't bite them when they made you blow them.
00:17:42And they'll just beat you to death.
00:17:46You weren't just a little kid and nobody fucking helped you.
00:18:06Whithers?
00:18:06Okay, here's your lovely dinner.
00:18:09Good chicken and a brewery chicken.
00:18:13Good?
00:18:15Well, I guess you must have really liked that.
00:18:20You should polish that off in a hurry.
00:18:25Uh, yeah. My father.
00:18:28He always said life's short, so, uh, eat quick.
00:18:32A dad of indigestion.
00:18:35Okay.
00:18:37Can I get you some dessert?
00:18:39Yeah.
00:18:40Yeah?
00:18:41I think there was something...
00:18:45You know, that's at the Ventura Volcano?
00:18:48Okay.
00:18:49Sounds like suicide by dessert.
00:18:50It is. I hope you got room for it.
00:18:52Oh, I always got room.
00:18:54I am a bottomless void.
00:18:58Oh, you know what?
00:19:00That guy was one of our more notorious citizens.
00:19:03You want some more coffee?
00:19:05Uh, sure.
00:19:06Yeah? Okay. I'll be back.
00:19:11Um, un volcano, por favor.
00:19:15Can I get a whiskey down and fry?
00:19:18I was in the, uh, bookstore up the street and I saw this.
00:19:21I'd never heard of him.
00:19:23I figured I'm here. I might as well.
00:19:27Seems interesting.
00:19:28Oh, yeah. He was interesting, all right.
00:19:30You know, we get a lot of people coming through here,
00:19:33going to the places where he killed people.
00:19:34And also the teenagers like to go to that shack where he killed himself.
00:19:40You know, I don't get it why people like to go to those places.
00:19:44I mean, what kind of sick thrill do they get by doing that, you know?
00:19:50I don't know about those things.
00:19:52No.
00:19:53I do know that people like to go to ground zero.
00:19:56Yeah, I know. I think that's really sick, too.
00:20:00Hey, you should come back for breakfast,
00:20:03because it's much better than our dinners, okay?
00:20:06I'm gonna go get your sundae.
00:20:12Okay.
00:20:43Call me when you get to Walnut and Herbs, all right?
00:20:47No.
00:20:48No.
00:20:49Walnut and Herbs.
00:20:51E-R-B-E-X.
00:20:54Yeah.
00:20:57No, E-R-B-E-X.
00:21:02Go in, baby.
00:21:03I'll be right there.
00:21:11Just let me finish this.
00:21:14It's my door.
00:21:16Oh, this is yours?
00:21:20I thought you were someone else.
00:21:24Sorry.
00:21:25All right.
00:21:26Call me when you get there, Papa, and then I'll give you my goods.
00:21:29Later.
00:21:32E-R-B-E-X.
00:21:33E-R-B-E-X.
00:21:33E-R-B-E-X.
00:21:33E-R-B-E-X.
00:21:34E-R-B-E-X.
00:21:34E-R-B-E-X.
00:21:34E-R-B-E-X.
00:21:36E-R-B-E-X.
00:21:36E-R-B-E-X.
00:21:38E-R-B-E-X.
00:21:41E-R-B-E-X.
00:21:44E-R-B-E-X.
00:21:44E-R-B-E-X.
00:21:45E-R-B-E-X.
00:21:46E-R-B-E-X.
00:21:49E-R-B-E-X.
00:21:50E-R-B-E-X.
00:21:50E-R-B-E-X.
00:21:51E-R-B-E-X.
00:21:58E-R-B-E-X.
00:22:01This place is teeming with him.
00:22:12I love these preachers.
00:22:17Carl's father was one of these born-agains.
00:22:21Tomorrow I go to the ranch to see where this man of God tortured his son.
00:22:28The spot where Carl killed for the first time.
00:22:32His most intimate place.
00:22:36Tomorrow the tables turn.
00:22:40And I haunt you, Carl.
00:23:18I was at the modest family home in Hedicone where Carl's father would tie him to a bed and beat
00:23:23him viciously with a razor's drop.
00:23:25Sometimes burning his genitals with lit candles and cigars as punishment for minor behavioural offences.
00:23:34Marsnap would begin his murderous spree at the family home on a warm September night in 1932.
00:23:39At the age of 14, he would bludgeon his parents to death with a hammer while they slept.
00:23:44He doused their bodies with gasoline and set the structure ablaze.
00:23:48Cold that night he murdered his parents in the most thrilling event in his life.
00:23:55I think he'd been so excited about a sight of his parents burning that he ejaculated for the first time.
00:24:04Carl, Carl, Carl.
00:24:05Carl, Carl, Carl, Carl.
00:24:48You had no remorse for what you did, did you, Carl?
00:24:53Of course you didn't.
00:24:56You used to say you didn't even know what remorse felt like.
00:25:00How could you, after what they did to you?
00:25:31I don't know.
00:25:37I don't know.
00:25:38I don't know.
00:26:17I don't know.
00:26:36I don't know.
00:26:37I don't know.
00:26:37I don't know.
00:26:39I don't know.
00:26:46I don't know.
00:27:15I don't know.
00:27:33I don't know.
00:27:44I don't know.
00:27:54I don't know.
00:28:26I don't know.
00:28:26I don't know.
00:28:53I don't know.
00:28:56I don't know.
00:28:57I don't know.
00:29:24I don't know.
00:29:27Maybe I should change rooms.
00:29:31I don't like being next to that filthiness.
00:29:41It's not good for me.
00:29:47So you took my advice and you came back for breakfast?
00:29:52Hey, are you okay?
00:29:54Yeah.
00:29:58My sister.
00:30:02She's only 28.
00:30:04She was just diagnosed with cancer.
00:30:07Never given her three months tops.
00:30:09Oh, Lord.
00:30:10I'm so sorry.
00:30:19I lost my husband about a few years ago.
00:30:23And, um...
00:30:28I thought it was gonna kill me.
00:30:32But it gets better.
00:30:36Sorry for your loss.
00:30:43Excuse me, ma'am.
00:30:44Um, I'll be right there.
00:30:46Okay?
00:30:47God damn.
00:30:53Can I get you anything?
00:30:56No.
00:30:58No.
00:31:05I'm a, uh, friend of Bill W.'s.
00:31:12Saw your necklace.
00:31:17You know, there might be a meeting tonight.
00:31:19Yeah, there's one at the community church at 8 o'clock.
00:31:22That's on Polly's gym?
00:31:26Yeah.
00:31:30Uh...
00:31:31I'm Carl.
00:31:34Hi, Carl.
00:31:35I'm Betsy.
00:31:43Okay, I'm gonna get you some coffee, okay?
00:31:52Seems like a nice person.
00:31:54Shouldn't have lied to her.
00:31:56But the truth has never gotten me anywhere.
00:31:59So what if I don't have a sister?
00:32:00That's not important.
00:32:00The bottom line is I got pain.
00:32:03I got pain and she's got pain.
00:32:06The important thing is that grief touched.
00:32:27April 14th, 1968.
00:32:31You're a masterpiece.
00:32:45I can feel you.
00:32:50Where are you?
00:33:16There was only three doors, you know?
00:33:24There was that one there.
00:33:33There's these two here.
00:33:43There's these two here.
00:33:44Took me two minutes
00:33:47to lock them all in here.
00:33:58I had it fully burning
00:34:01and ate.
00:34:11Most of them,
00:34:13they trampled each other's
00:34:16in the panic.
00:34:24My old man,
00:34:28he was one of the church elders.
00:34:45Everybody knew what he was doing to me.
00:35:00Everybody knew
00:35:01help me a ship.
00:35:12I taught all these
00:35:14phony sons of bitches
00:35:15what being a victim
00:35:17felt like.
00:35:29I think it's time
00:35:32I think it's time
00:35:34that you taught someone
00:35:36that sermon.
00:35:38help me,
00:35:38what else?
00:35:38Yeah.
00:35:39Correct.
00:35:54Don't think that he loved it.
00:35:55just said no.
00:35:55I told you I was wrong with him.
00:35:56and I said,
00:35:57And travelling
00:35:58when you're on theikk corp get it.
00:36:30There was a man, and he was sprawled out on the bed naked.
00:36:35We had had sex.
00:36:37I was still so drunk.
00:36:39I called my husband.
00:36:41I gave him the address.
00:36:44He came and got me.
00:36:48That was my bottom.
00:36:52I cried for about three weeks after he left.
00:36:58He took my kids with him.
00:37:01But somehow, I found a room.
00:37:04August 5th, 1998.
00:37:07I'm one of the lucky ones.
00:37:10We're all lucky.
00:37:11We've all found rooms.
00:37:17And he was on the couch.
00:37:20And he had been watching a book.
00:37:28Arithmogenic right ventricular dysplasia.
00:37:32The first symptom of that is sudden death.
00:37:37He was a vegetarian.
00:37:40He was a runner.
00:37:43He was in perfect health.
00:37:48And he was dead at 45.
00:37:51Just like that.
00:37:55And it's been four years.
00:38:03But...
00:38:05I...
00:38:08It feels like it was yesterday.
00:38:10And I think I'm actually more distraught now than I was then.
00:38:15I mean, at least then I was in shock.
00:38:18You know?
00:38:20And now the pain...
00:38:22just never goes away.
00:38:31So I know where you're going, Erica.
00:38:37I'm sorry.
00:38:40It's okay.
00:38:43It's okay.
00:38:49I'm glad you came.
00:38:52To the meeting.
00:38:58I needed, uh...
00:39:02I don't know.
00:39:06Lately, I can't...
00:39:12I don't know what's going on.
00:39:13I just...
00:39:17I don't even know what's real.
00:39:23I know.
00:39:25I feel like that, too.
00:39:28Sometimes I don't know whether I'm coming or I'm going.
00:39:31I don't know what's going on.
00:39:36But I fight through it.
00:39:38And I go to a meeting.
00:39:43Oh, my God.
00:39:44Because...
00:39:45Because...
00:39:45In the end, Carl...
00:39:48The only thing that's real is...
00:39:50Right now.
00:39:51This.
00:39:53You know?
00:39:54Connecting with people.
00:39:58I thank God for my job.
00:40:00I thank God for these meetings.
00:40:05Because without them, I'm not sure what I would do.
00:40:18Anyway, I haven't even asked you where you're from.
00:40:23Where are you from, Carl?
00:40:32I'm from Yonkers.
00:40:34It's in New York.
00:40:37How?
00:40:38Is it nice?
00:40:44No.
00:40:45No? No.
00:40:48It's not nice. It's, uh...
00:40:53Yonkers.
00:40:58So, are you...
00:41:02here on business, or are you just passing through?
00:41:09I mean, I say that because...
00:41:12Hedicombe is the kind of place that you just go through, not to, you know?
00:41:23You smell good.
00:41:29Hmm.
00:41:34I'm hungry.
00:41:39So, what do you do?
00:41:40I'm a security guard.
00:41:42What else?
00:41:44What do you want to know?
00:41:46What songs do you like?
00:41:51Um...
00:41:52Poker.
00:41:53Music.
00:41:54Okay.
00:41:57You laugh a lot.
00:41:59I know.
00:42:00I'm sorry.
00:42:02Why are you sorry?
00:42:04You're beautiful when you laugh.
00:42:19I'm happy.
00:42:33Oh!
00:42:35WT?
00:42:36What about your recovery?
00:42:41One bite at a time.
00:42:44Sorry.
00:42:46Your turn.
00:42:50It's very strong.
00:42:58You like it?
00:43:02No?
00:43:03Oh, I do.
00:43:06And you want to travel blind
00:43:10And you know that she will trust you
00:43:15For you touched her perfect body
00:43:18With your mind
00:43:21Good.
00:43:23And Jesus was a savior
00:43:30When he walked upon the water
00:43:34And he spent long time watching
00:43:38From his lonely wooden tower
00:43:42And when he was certain
00:43:45Only drowning man could see it
00:43:50He said all men will be sailors
00:43:54Then until the sea shall free them
00:43:58But he himself was broken
00:44:03Stop. Just don't kiss me.
00:44:04Okay, just...
00:44:06Why?
00:44:07Because of me.
00:44:09Come at your boyfriend.
00:44:11Right.
00:44:13I like all that mushy shit.
00:44:16What is wrong with you, Carl?
00:44:19Fucking don't call me that!
00:44:21You don't fucking know me!
00:44:25Bitch, Jesus Christ.
00:44:40Oh, my God.
00:44:43Oh my god.
00:44:45I don't know.
00:45:26Real women don't get your nut off anymore.
00:45:36I know the feeling.
00:45:41It's poisoning you there.
00:45:43It's sex all backed up, infected, got to come out.
00:45:53But you always let me build a no good.
00:46:09Go ahead, bud.
00:46:14Get it out.
00:46:22Knock on that door there.
00:46:39Get in there, Timmy.
00:46:52Hey.
00:46:56You know what I am?
00:47:02You know, you're supposed to make an appointment first.
00:47:08But since we need this, I can squeeze you in.
00:47:33Kiss me.
00:47:38I don't, uh, I don't know.
00:47:42You a cop, asshole?
00:47:46No.
00:47:48Then give me a kiss or get out.
00:48:06On my neck.
00:48:08Open out.
00:48:22I can't sing a loud touch.
00:48:47What's that?
00:48:48Donation.
00:48:49Run yesterday.
00:48:55Just can't hide away.
00:49:00Run shadow.
00:49:06Know I can't run away.
00:49:11Run yesterday.
00:49:20Are you sure you want this?
00:49:26Then take your clothes off and lay down.
00:49:46I want to get out of here.
00:50:14If I could take my clothes off and lay down.
00:50:30Try to call me out.
00:50:34Get up!
00:50:35Put him down!
00:50:37Are you sure no one's going to?
00:50:40Get off me!
00:50:44Get off me!
00:50:59Motherfuckers.
00:51:01They ruined me.
00:51:04Those fucking kids broke everything.
00:51:08I know, Jimmy. I know.
00:51:12They broke me too.
00:51:13Why didn't they fix me?
00:51:18They could have fixed me.
00:51:20I was just a kid.
00:51:21How could I not even try?
00:51:25It went too fucking late.
00:51:29I know, Jimmy.
00:51:32There ain't a soul alive on this miserable planet that don't know how to break shit up.
00:51:39Pound it into powder.
00:51:41Like they did to you and me.
00:51:48Yeah.
00:51:51We closer than kin that way.
00:51:56We closer than kin that way.
00:52:01Pound it into the dead.
00:52:11It's really deep.
00:52:12It's a kind of pill.
00:52:12You need to get in touch.
00:52:14I know, it's pretty.
00:52:19You know, it's amazing.
00:52:22It is and I've had to go to the 80s and eat it.
00:52:22It's easy to drink it.
00:52:22It's easy to drink.
00:52:23I have to sleep.
00:52:23I'm trying to drink it.
00:52:41I don't know.
00:52:55Yeah, I know. I think that's really sick, too.
00:52:58It's time that you've talked about this.
00:53:01Go down by the pool.
00:53:03There's poison in the lake.
00:53:06You suck.
00:53:07I'm going to go.
00:53:11I'm going to go.
00:53:23I'm going to go.
00:53:51I know that we were both a little high, and sometimes people get weird, and I just wanted
00:54:00to say that if I made you feel uncomfortable or if I came on too strong, I'm sorry.
00:54:12I guess I could kind of let my sense of hospitality just get away from me, but it's just because
00:54:21I really like you.
00:54:29You're disgusting.
00:54:46That's for you.
00:54:47I'm not.
00:54:50That's for you.
00:54:50I'm not.
00:54:53I'm not.
00:56:19I'm coming up to visit you this weekend, and we can go to Six Flags, okay?
00:56:24I love you, Cookie.
00:56:27Have a great day.
00:56:29Love you.
00:56:31Bye.
00:56:41Bye.
00:56:43Bye.
00:56:46Bye.
00:57:01Bye.
00:57:19Is it cool enough in here, sweetie, or do you want me to turn it down some more?
00:57:23Damn Santa Ana's got so hot today, huh?
00:57:27No, this is fine.
00:57:31I guess we don't want it too cool, dude.
00:57:34No, we don't.
00:57:38Why don't you turn it over for me, baby?
00:57:41Oh, God.
00:57:49I like the size of my clients' back.
00:57:52What the hell?
00:57:54You got a nice one.
00:57:56You work out.
00:57:59Yeah, a little.
00:58:00Yeah.
00:58:02Yeah, does that feel good?
00:58:04Oh, yes.
00:58:06Yeah, relax.
00:58:13That's really nice.
00:58:20Oh, God!
00:58:22Yeah!
00:58:23Get out!
00:58:24What about me?
00:58:25What about me?
00:58:27Look, I'm a fag.
00:58:28What?
00:58:28You think I fucking like that?
00:58:31Shit!
00:58:31What?
00:58:33Shit!
00:58:35It was disgusting!
00:58:36Fucking whore!
00:58:42Shit!
00:58:43I fucking hate it!
00:58:51Boy!
00:58:52Fucking...
00:59:13What's that accident, huh?
00:59:16Me ending up in room next door to you?
00:59:20It's a little accident. It's him. It's God.
00:59:24Fuck it with me again!
00:59:27I didn't ask for this shit!
00:59:29He made those kids do that for me.
00:59:32Fuck you!
01:00:13Fuck you!
01:00:18This is what it's like to be a victim.
01:01:12Well...
01:01:16You preach the sermon.
01:01:44What did it feel like?
01:01:47You only got about 40 seconds once you cut it.
01:01:54I just close my eyes.
01:01:58Ain't gotta do nothing but be there.
01:02:03You feel like an engine with a million miles on it.
01:02:05That's how it is to you.
01:02:12That is the true telling of a thing like this.
01:02:19I don't know.
01:02:22I don't know.
01:02:50I don't know.
01:03:19I don't know.
01:03:41This spot, the church behind me, is significant because it was the site of what locals call the Seventh-day
01:03:46Adventist church massacre.
01:03:47Which refers to a church which was burned down by infamous mass murderer Karl Marsnap in 1968.
01:04:06People, they come here to see this.
01:04:11Now, people's gonna come here to see the spot where you was.
01:04:16Come here to see me.
01:04:18They're gonna come.
01:04:19They're gonna come to my hotel room.
01:04:23The spot where you killed this.
01:04:25The spot where I killed the whore.
01:04:28They're gonna go to the spot where I worked.
01:04:36They're gonna wanna know everything about me.
01:04:59They're gonna come here.
01:05:03They're gonna come here.
01:05:04They're gonna come here.
01:05:09They're gonna come here.
01:05:12They're gonna come here.
01:05:13They're gonna come here.
01:05:14They're gonna come here.
01:05:14They're gonna come here.
01:05:14They're gonna come here.
01:05:14They're gonna come here.
01:05:14They're gonna come here.
01:05:14They're gonna come here.
01:05:15They're gonna come here.
01:05:16They're gonna come here.
01:05:17They're gonna come here.
01:05:19They're gonna come here.
01:05:22They're gonna come here.
01:06:23It's not the way it's going to end.
01:06:28When they think of Jim Tunna, they're going to fear him.
01:06:34They're not going to think of the victim he was.
01:06:38They're going to think of the victims he made.
01:06:42It's all over now.
01:07:17We're talking this morning about this, uh, Tana guy they found out there in California, somebody, uh...
01:07:22I'm from Yonkers. Like kids here, I got my family out here and I just wish I could, you know,
01:07:26I could have grabbed my handcraft.
01:07:27He was abused as a child. I'm not surprised at all.
01:07:29I think it's very clear that Tana and Marsnap were both victims of abuse.
01:07:34And this is what's possible when victims of abuse do not receive...
01:07:37Some people are looking at this as a hate crime.
01:07:40Obviously it's a hate crime. You know, he's hating somebody means killing somebody.
01:07:52It's very, very freaky being here.
01:07:56It's like you can feel him.
01:07:58His energy.
01:08:02It's wild. My hair is standing up. I love it.
01:08:09My husband and I are trying to protect them.
01:08:15It's very many people, people, but it is insane.
01:08:16I'm not sure how many members do not drop their death back to us.
01:08:16I will kiss him.
01:08:25No, I'm insecure things with you.
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