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Senator Rodante Marcoleta on Tuesday questioned whether the Armed Forces of the Philippines (AFP) is teaching what he described as a “distorted” historical narrative about Filipino seafarer Tomas Cloma and the discovery of the Spratly Islands.

During the hearing of Senate Committee on National Defense and Security, Peace, Unification and Reconciliation, Marcoleta raised concerns over claims made during a recent Commission on Appointments (CA) hearing that Cloma discovered the Spratly Islands and later donated them to the Philippine government — assertions he said are historically inaccurate.

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00:00Thank you very much Madam Chair. I thought that I need to bring this up considering that it is subsumed
00:09in the entire discussion of the military plantilla.
00:21It's good that the National Defense College of the Philippines is here. I am interested in
00:30in one section of this bill, Senate Bill No. 146, in Chapter 4, it includes Section 42 which is about
00:41organization, mission, and function. This is about the Armed Forces of the Philippines.
00:49In our last meeting at the Commission on Appointments, there came up a topic about command and general staff course.
01:14It was mentioned very briefly in that Commission on Appointments hearing where we were about to confirm 34 members of
01:25the Armed Forces of the Philippines.
01:30Doon kasi lumilitaw, Senator Ping mentioned a certain personality by the name of Tomas Kloma.
01:40And he asked the representative of the 34 members of the AFE or supposed were about to be confirmed whether
01:48he knew about Tomas Kloma.
01:50So in their exchange, Madam Chair, it was pointed out that Tomas Kloma was the one who discovered Ms. Pratlys.
02:02I knew Mr. Pratlys.
02:05I knew Mr. Kloma, and I interviewed him as a young journalist.
02:10His granddaughter is Rizabel Kloma, who was a journalist also.
02:14So I will have it researched when I, in the 80s or 90s, I interviewed Tomas Kloma, who discovered the
02:22Spratly Islands.
02:24I will probably quote from the transcript of that committee hearing, Madam Chair, which is attributed to Senator Luxon about
02:33Tomas Kloma.
02:35And I quote this.
02:37During the Commission on Appointments hearing for the confirmation of ad interim appointments of members of the Armed Forces of
02:44the Philippines last 4 February 2026,
02:48a colleague noted that lawyer and adventurer Tomas Kloma discovered the Spratly Islands and occupied them as under res nulius.
02:59Whoever discovers and occupies the land is recognized as the owner.
03:04Kloma turned over the ownership of the land to the Philippine government.
03:10Is this the course adopted, Madam?
03:15Is this the fact that we know that Tomas Kloma was the one who discovered the Spratly Islands?
03:31That's a new story.
03:32Allow me, allow me to explain.
03:36Sinabi kasi ni Senator Ping doon, as the one who discovered allegedly the Spratly Islands, he turned over it to
03:46the Philippine government.
03:47And he said that President Marcos Senior formalized that turnover.
03:58Yan ba yung part ng course?
03:59Is the syllabus really very clear on this that Tomas Kloma discovered the Spratly Islands and it was turned over
04:05to the Philippine government because he was the one who discovered it?
04:08Yan ba yung history na pinag-aaralan dito sa Command and General Staff Course?
04:13Kasi ito yung kinuwento ni Senator Ping and it seems to me that Captain Pilar who represented the 34 members
04:21of the Armed Forces confirmed that.
04:23I just want to confirm now before you kung talaga ito yung tinuturo sa course na ito.
04:31Good morning to our distinguished senator.
04:35If I may be allowed to sponsor, if the statement came from the AFP Command and General Staff College, I
04:42believe...
04:42No, this statement came from Senator Ping.
04:44That's why I'm trying to clarify and have it confirmed kung totoo ito na ito ang tinuturo.
04:51Kasi sabi nung Captain, he took this course in Camp Krami.
04:55Sabi na yung Senator Ping, when he took this course in 1983, he took it in Fort Bonipacio.
05:02So nagkakaalaman sila about this course.
05:04But I'm talking about Tomas Kloma.
05:07Ito ba yung tinuturo sa course na siya nagdiscover and he turned over it to the government of the Philippines?
05:13If I may, the General and Staff College, GSC, which I also took, is a different college from the National
05:22Defense College of the Philippines.
05:24Is the GSC represented here?
05:27Yes.
05:28Perhaps, Senator Marcoleta, if the statement made to your honor was sa GSC, maybe the GSC would be in a
05:38better position to answer if this basic information on the Spratlys is being taught.
05:43Yes, that is better, Madam Chair, because I thought that the...
05:47Iba po yung National Defense College.
05:48Makakala ko kasama rin doon sa...
05:50Iba po yung General Staff College, although parehong alma mater ko.
05:54But may I, hindi sa ayaw ko pagsalitain ng ating President ng NDCP, pero sabi niyo, NGSC ang saguturo niyan.
06:03Nung panahon ko, ba't hindi namin hindi tinuro sa akin yan?
06:06Kasi alam ko na yun eh.
06:07So anyway, pakisagot po.
06:09Good afternoon, good morning, Your Honor.
06:13For the CGSC class, we only have seven modules.
06:18And we are not aware that if this history is being taught of that, including the module.
06:26Our module only consists of international security and military strategies, leadership and resources management, contemporary security challenges, strategic communication, OPART,
06:40and joint and combined operations.
06:43So let me be clarified.
06:46Anong pangalan niyo?
06:48Is wrong?
06:50Hindi ko po makita yung pangalan niyo.
06:52May I...
06:52Will you please identify yourself?
06:54Please do, General Alexander Gigantone, sir.
06:57General, am I now made to understand that Thomas Cloma is not a part of this general...
07:06...command and general staff course?
07:07As I am aware of, sir or non, sir.
07:10But I have to check with the course director himself, sir.
07:14And I'll get back to you, sir.
07:15Yes, because I'd like to inform you that Senator Ping mentioned this during our hearing.
07:24And Captain Pilar responded quite quickly that he knew also Thomas Cloma.
07:30At hindi siya kinonfirm niya yung sinasabi ni Senator Luxon because he did not object to the narratives that was
07:38fed to us.
07:39Sinabi niya, Thomas Cloma is the one who discovered Spratly Islands.
07:47And as the discoverer, he owns it.
07:49So, dinonate niya sa Pilipinas.
07:51And this was formalized by President Marcos Sr.
07:55Kasi Maturupak sabi niya, this was also formalized by the arbitral ruling.
07:59He was referring to the 2012 arbitration in the South China Sea arbitration.
08:05Yes, sir.
08:06So, wala ito sa course niyo?
08:08We don't have military history module in our CGSE.
08:12Bakit kaya niya sinabi na, did you take up your command general staff course at Port Bonifacio?
08:18Sabi niya.
08:19Sabi naman ni Captain Pilar, no, sir.
08:21I took it at the, at Camp Crame.
08:25So, parang nagkakaalaman sila na meron talagang command and general staff course.
08:29And do you know, kanya, Thomas Cloma?
08:31Yes, sir.
08:32Doon niya inintroduce si Thomas Cloma is the one who discovered Spratly Islands.
08:38So, wala po, Your Honor.
08:41As of now, Your Honor, probably in the past there's a military history, but I can only serve my...
08:48I am very interested in this because it should be corrected kung talagang na andon si Thomas Cloma.
08:56It should not be distorted.
08:57Thomas Cloma is a seafarer.
08:59He's not a discoverer.
09:01In 1956, he proclaimed a freedom land.
09:04It's like a notice of claim.
09:06That was in 1956.
09:08And several countries subjected to that.
09:11The United Kingdom, the United States, Australia, Japan, China, and the Philippines.
09:18That is the history.
09:20Alam niyo kung bakit nag-object ang mga countries na ito?
09:23Because at that time in 1956,
09:26Spratly Islands is not considered terra nullius.
09:31Meaning, hindi siya undiscovered, hindi siya unoccupied.
09:36As a matter of fact, in 1897, Great Britain already notified the world by issuing a notice of claim.
09:45After that, when that claim was abandoned, France took over.
09:52Until in 1933, Japan noticed a, served a notice of claim.
10:00Copy furnishing the United States of America.
10:03We were then a colony of America.
10:05That was in 1933.
10:07And Japan called these Spratly Islands
10:12Sinangunto.
10:14Tayo tinawag nating Kalayan Island Group.
10:16So, I'm trying to emphasize this, General.
10:21Ang dami kasing ano eh.
10:23Ang daming mga disinformation and misinformation eh.
10:27Papano nilang sasabihin na somebody donated this to the government?
10:32But this is not the whole point now eh.
10:35Alam ninyo, apat na territories ng ating Spratly Islands,
10:40ng Spratly Islands,
10:43are already territories of the Philippines.
10:46Simply because we occupied them.
10:50Tayo nag-occupy na dito eh.
10:53And somebody suggested,
10:55yung sinasabi ko raw,
10:56sinasabi ko raw,
10:58I'm trying to
11:01to remove the KIG from the territory of this country.
11:08By presenting a splice narrative.
11:12Ito yung mabigat dito eh.
11:14No less than a senator of the republic did this.
11:17We will do the,
11:19we'll come to this in proper time.
11:21Gusto ko lamang eh,
11:24paalam na,
11:27alam nyo si Tomas Cloma was mentioned in the Arbitral Award,
11:32only in pages 250 and 251.
11:36Sinasabi ng tribunal,
11:38a certain Filipino and his associates
11:40have had some activities in this Spratly,
11:43sabi niya.
11:43Yun lang,
11:44na-mention.
11:45Doon lang siya na-mention.
11:45And parang,
11:47nagkataon lang na nakatating sa Ito Aba
11:50and nagkaroon lang ng konti sigurong
11:54kung ano-ano pinagagawa nila doon.
11:56That was the only time
11:58that this Tomas Cloma was mentioned
11:59in the Arbitration Tribunal.
12:02So baka po tinuturo sa
12:04Command and General Staff Course.
12:10Your Honor,
12:11as I said, sir,
12:13we only have modules
12:15not including the history,
12:16Your Honor.
12:17So yung pinagsasabi ni Senator
12:19are all distortions.
12:23I have to find out, Your Honor.
12:27It's borne out by our PSN.
12:29May transcript po kami.
12:33Probably in the old CGSC classes
12:36in the 80s or 90s,
12:38Your Honor,
12:38there's a part of history,
12:40but I can only surmise on that, Your Honor.
12:42So sinasabi ko lang po.
12:45Ako kailanman hindi ko sinabi,
12:47I'm trying to remove the KIG
12:48from the territory of this country.
12:50I never,
12:51not even a suggestion.
12:53Alam po ninyo,
12:54it was misquoted several times, sir.
12:56When we were meeting at the CA,
12:59I was only trying to emphasize two things.
13:03The difficulty of plotting the West Philippine Sea
13:06because of several obstacles.
13:08There are three articles of the UNCLOS
13:11that will be contradicted
13:12if we will encircle
13:14the West Philippine Sea
13:16with the KIG.
13:18Pero hindi ko po problema yun.
13:19Problema na ng Namria
13:20kung paano natin gagawin.
13:21I hope we can help Namria
13:23plot the map
13:25of the West Philippine Sea
13:26in our lifetime.
13:29Pero hindi ko kailanman sinadjes.
13:31Sinabi ko lang,
13:33napakahirap talaga ka ako.
13:34Alam mo,
13:35after 14 years,
13:37you may want to look
13:38back
13:40at Administrative Order
13:42number 29,
13:43which was issued by President Pinoy
13:45in 2012.
13:47At that time,
13:48he already instructed
13:49the Namria
13:49and the Department
13:50of Foreign Affairs
13:52to prepare
13:53the necessary maps
13:54and charts
13:55with coordinates
13:56and submit them
13:58to the United Nations
14:00and notify
14:02all relevant
14:02international organizations,
14:04including
14:04the International
14:05Hydrographics Organization,
14:06for the purpose
14:07of plotting
14:09a West Philippine Sea map
14:11as the western side
14:12of our country.
14:14I was telling them,
14:16maybe,
14:16I just said,
14:17maybe,
14:18the difficulty lies
14:19in the several obstacles
14:20that they will encounter.
14:23Kasi nga,
14:23nasa high seas na lahat yun eh.
14:25I'm not talking about territory.
14:27I'm only talking about
14:28the West Philippine Sea.
14:29How we can encircle
14:31that part
14:31of the ocean,
14:33most of which
14:34is already the high seas.
14:36Kasi nang biro lang ako.
14:38Ito sa hypothetical statement
14:39when I said,
14:40well,
14:43you want to give up
14:44the KIG
14:44para ma-encircle mo.
14:46But that was
14:46highly hypothetical.
14:48It was not even a suggestion.
14:50Sabi ko pa nga eh,
14:52kung pwede lang natin
14:53ilipat sana
14:54sa EEC natin,
14:55but you cannot do that.
14:56Only God knows.
14:57Only God can do that.
15:01So,
15:01general,
15:02so many times
15:03I'm being misquoted
15:05by several people,
15:06including a retired
15:08justice of the Supreme Court.
15:09in due time,
15:10we will meet all them.
15:12Kasi naggawa na po
15:13ko ng resolusyon
15:14na I will ask
15:14the NAMRIAN
15:15ask all these people
15:16trying to paint me
15:18as the villain
15:19and they
15:20as the national hero
15:21of the Philippines.
15:24So,
15:25salamat po,
15:25general,
15:26sa pagkakasabi mo.
15:27And now,
15:27I am relieved
15:28na hindi pala part
15:29ng command
15:30and general staff course
15:31which was
15:32erroneously
15:34cited
15:35by Senator Ping
15:36in our discussion
15:37at the last
15:38CA hearing.
15:41And I think
15:42you should also
15:43look into this.
15:45Kayo pala yung
15:46national,
15:47what do you call it?
15:49National Defense College
15:50of the Philippines,
15:51Your Honor.
15:52Sana po mag-coordinate
15:53kayo kay general
15:53because they are
15:54also in that course.
15:57Baka lumabas na naman
15:57si Tomas Kloma,
15:59kung ano na naman
16:00ang pagsasasabihin nila.
16:03So,
16:03yun lang po yung point
16:04why I came in.
16:05And I'm interested
16:06in being able
16:06to look at
16:07how our
16:08armed forces
16:09are educated.
16:12Ang gusto ko po
16:13talagang mangyari
16:14rito sa buhay natin,
16:15in our lifetime,
16:17we should be able
16:18to plant
16:19the West Philippine Sea
16:20on the western side
16:20of this country
16:21like what Vietnam did.
16:23Alam po ninyo
16:24yung ginawa ng Vietnam?
16:27Nakagawa sila
16:28ng Gulf of Tonkin.
16:29Now,
16:29titignan po ninyo
16:30ang mapa
16:31ng South China Sea.
16:32The Gulf of Tonkin
16:33is there
16:34because it is
16:35registered
16:35in the
16:36S-DAS-23.
16:37What is
16:38DAS-23?
16:41What is that?
16:42S-DAS-23
16:44is the limits
16:44of oceans
16:45and seas.
16:46It is published
16:47by International
16:48Hydrographics
16:49Organization.
16:51Naglaban sila
16:52ng China
16:54na nalo
16:55ang Vietnam.
16:56Tingnan po ninyo
16:57ang South China Sea.
16:58Meron silang
16:58Gulf of Tonkin.
16:59But what about
17:00our West Philippine Sea?
17:01Hanggang ngayon,
17:02wala.
17:03Dahil hindi
17:04ginagawa ng
17:05Namria
17:05ang sinabi
17:06in 2012.
17:08Alam nyo
17:08ang pinalabas nila
17:09ngayon.
17:09I think
17:10nagpalabas sila.
17:13They
17:14showed the map
17:16last Wednesday.
17:18Tingnan po ninyo
17:19kung anong nilabas
17:20ng Namria.
17:20It was
17:21an administrative
17:22map.
17:24What is
17:25an administrative
17:26map?
17:27What is
17:29Ano po
17:30ibig sabihin
17:31ng
17:31administrative
17:31map,
17:32Madam?
17:34I have
17:35to request
17:36your
17:37indulgence,
17:38Your Honor.
17:38I'm not
17:39an expert
17:40on
17:40maritime
17:41concerns.
17:43An
17:44administrative
17:44map
17:45is
17:45a map
17:47that
17:47delinates
17:48the political
17:49subdivision
17:50of our
17:50country.
17:51Makikita nyo
17:51doon ang
17:52regions
17:52and the
17:52provinces.
17:53Ito
17:53ginawa nila.
17:54Tingnan ninyo
17:55it was
17:55published
17:56dated
17:56December
17:572025.
17:58That is
17:59not the
18:00kind of
18:00map
18:00needed
18:01by the
18:01United
18:02Nations.
18:02That is
18:03not the
18:03kind of
18:04map
18:04needed
18:04by the
18:04IHO.
18:05It should
18:06be a
18:06map
18:06accompanied
18:07by charts
18:08with
18:09coordinates.
18:10Para sa
18:10ganun,
18:11we can
18:11notify the
18:12whole
18:12world,
18:12the
18:12whole
18:12international
18:13community
18:14that
18:14we
18:14would
18:15like
18:15to
18:15allocate
18:15that
18:16purely
18:16for
18:17the
18:17Philippines.
18:18Ilagay
18:18natin
18:19sa
18:19mapa yun.
18:20There
18:20are
18:20obstacles,
18:21I
18:21know
18:21that,
18:21but we
18:22should
18:22work
18:22on
18:22the
18:22obstacles.
18:23Namria
18:24should
18:24work
18:24on
18:28the
18:28difficulties.
18:28I'm not
18:29trying to
18:29isolate
18:29anything
18:30from our
18:30territory.
18:31Hindi ba
18:32sinasabi
18:32natin,
18:33we
18:33cannot
18:34give up
18:34an inch
18:35of our
18:35territory.
18:36Alam
18:37nyo
18:37kung
18:37pahabayan
18:38ko
18:38ang
18:38discussion
18:38na
18:39to?
18:40It
18:41was
18:41the
18:42retarded
18:42justice
18:43of the
18:43Supreme
18:43Court
18:44who
18:44gave
18:45up
18:45242,000
18:46of our
18:47territorial
18:47sea
18:47away.
18:49I
18:49will
18:49prove
18:50that
18:50in
18:50several
18:51days
18:51to
18:51come.
18:53Tayo
18:54sinasabi
18:55natin
18:55even
18:55an inch
18:56of our
18:56territory,
18:57we
18:57will
18:57not
18:57give
18:58tama
18:58naman
18:58yun,
18:58ilalaban
18:59natin
18:59yun.
19:00Pero
19:00siya,
19:02dahil
19:03sa pag
19:03de-decision
19:04niya
19:04ng
19:05mali,
19:07the
19:07Republic
19:07Act
19:0895
19:0922,
19:102011,
19:11somebody
19:11raised it
19:12to the
19:12Supreme
19:13Court
19:13on
19:13issue
19:13of
19:14constitutionality.
19:16Ang
19:16akala
19:17ko
19:17naman,
19:17akala
19:18ko
19:18naman,
19:18alam
19:19niya
19:19ang
19:19ginagawa
19:19niya.
19:20Ang
19:21nawala
19:21sa
19:22atin,
19:23territorial
19:24sea,
19:24madam,
19:26242,000
19:2730
19:29square
19:30nautical
19:30miles.
19:31That's
19:32more than
19:32the area,
19:34that's more than
19:35the land area
19:35of this country.
19:36The land area
19:37of this country
19:38is about
19:38300,000
19:39square
19:39kilometers.
19:41How much
19:41is 242,000
19:43square miles,
19:44madam?
19:46That's about
19:47629,000
19:48square
19:49kilometers.
19:51kasi
19:51sinasabi ko,
19:52siya
19:52yung
19:52traidor.
19:54Ayaw niyang
19:55pag-usapan
19:56ito
19:56because
19:56it
19:56happened.
19:58Gusto
19:59niyang
19:59palawakin
19:59ito,
20:00tingnan
20:00natin
20:00lahat.
20:02Ang
20:02territorial
20:03sea,
20:04madam,
20:04including
20:04our
20:05land
20:05area,
20:06ito
20:06yung
20:06ating
20:07territory.
20:07It
20:07was
20:07defined
20:08by our
20:08national
20:09territory
20:09provision
20:10of the
20:10constitution.
20:11Look
20:12at your
20:121935
20:13constitution.
20:14Look
20:14at your
20:141978,
20:161973
20:16constitution
20:17and the
20:181987
20:19constitution.
20:20We did
20:20not give
20:21up any
20:22inns of
20:22our
20:22territory,
20:23including
20:24of our
20:24territorial
20:24seas.
20:26That
20:26retired
20:27justice
20:28of the
20:28Supreme
20:29Court
20:29did
20:29that.
20:33I'm
20:33sorry,
20:34I need
20:34to say
20:34all this.
20:36To
20:36allay
20:37all
20:37those
20:38false
20:38statements
20:39and
20:39misinformation.
20:43Thank
20:43you,
20:44ma'am.
20:44Yes.
20:45Did I
20:46give you
20:46enough
20:46time?
20:47Yes,
20:47ma'am.
20:47And thank
20:48you very
20:48much for
20:48the
20:48time.
20:49Yes,
20:50I'm
20:51sorry,
20:51I had
20:51to take
20:52a call
20:52and I
20:53because I
20:53wanted to
20:54give the
20:54time to
20:55my
20:55colleague
20:56to
20:56clarify
20:57certain
20:58statements.
20:59I
20:59apologize.
21:00I did
21:00not hear
21:01what you
21:01said,
21:02but
21:02whatever
21:03he
21:03says
21:03is
21:04what
21:04he
21:04says.
21:07You
21:07will be
21:07able to
21:08read what
21:09I said
21:09anyway,
21:10madam.
21:10I
21:10will read
21:10the
21:11transcript
21:11of
21:12records
21:12and
21:13whatever
21:14clarification
21:16the
21:16good
21:16senator
21:17has said,
21:17I would
21:18suggest
21:18that you
21:19state it
21:20in plenary
21:21so that
21:22it is
21:22in record
21:23in the
21:23plenary
21:24session
21:24whatever
21:24it
21:26has.
21:27Then we
21:27proceed
21:28with our
21:28bills.
21:31so
21:33it's
21:33never
21:33too late
21:34to
21:34take
21:34up
21:34GSC.
21:36It's
21:37never
21:37too
21:37late
21:38to
21:38take
21:38masters
21:38in
21:39national
21:39security.
21:40Provided
21:42they will
21:43exclude
21:43the
21:44Thomas
21:44Cloma
21:46issue.
21:49It
21:49may not
21:53be the
21:53classes
21:54but
21:54it's
21:54historical
21:55pharoah.
21:56In fact,
21:57sino
21:57ang
21:58bihasa
21:58who
21:58can
21:59give
21:59us
21:59the
22:00historical
22:01perspective
22:01of the
22:02Spratlys
22:03because
22:03when I
22:04was a
22:04young
22:04journalist
22:05in the
22:0580s
22:06anong
22:07taon
22:07yun
22:07Thomas
22:08Cloma
22:08interview
22:08ko.
22:09Google
22:09yun.
22:09Tanong
22:10kay Jane
22:10ngay na.
22:11Kanino
22:11ko
22:11sinabi
22:1130
22:12minutes
22:12ago.
22:13In
22:13interview
22:14ko
22:14si
22:15Thomas
22:15Cloma
22:15sa
22:16bahay
22:17niya
22:17sa
22:17Quezon
22:18City.
22:19Tawagan
22:19si
22:19Rizabel
22:20Cloma.
22:20Yung
22:20apo
22:20niyang
22:21si
22:21Rizabel
22:21nandun.
22:23But
22:23retired
22:23na
22:24si
22:24Rizabel
22:24to
22:24slack.
22:25I
22:25was
22:25in
22:25my
22:2620s
22:26and
22:27I
22:27interviewed
22:27Thomas
22:28Cloma
22:29and
22:29we
22:29talked
22:30about
22:30the
22:30Sprat
22:30Lease
22:31in
22:31the
22:3180s.
22:32And
22:32then
22:33fast
22:33forward
22:341992
22:35I
22:36took
22:36up
22:36my
22:36master's
22:37in
22:37national
22:37security
22:38at
22:3832
22:39years
22:39old
22:40at
22:41the
22:41blue
22:41book
22:41one
22:42of
22:42our
22:42exams
22:43was
22:44on
22:44the
22:45South
22:45China
22:46Sea
22:46issue
22:47on
22:47the
22:47Sprat
22:48Lease.
22:48Eh
22:49wala
22:49pang
22:49computer
22:50no
22:50wala
22:50pang
22:51soft
22:51copy
22:51hand
22:52written
22:52ko
22:52yun
22:52sa
22:52isang
22:53blue
22:53book
22:53ko.
22:54Mahahanap
22:55kaya
22:55ng
22:55NDCP
22:56yung
22:56blue
22:56book
23:00as
23:01early
23:02as
23:021992
23:02po
23:03ay
23:04sumusulat
23:05na ako
23:05about
23:06the
23:06Sprat
23:06Lease
23:07Islands.
23:07Madam Chair,
23:08wala po akong
23:09problema
23:09kay Tomas
23:10Cloma
23:10kung
23:10ang pinag-uusapan
23:11lang
23:12nakarating
23:13siya
23:13sa E2
23:13ABA
23:14kasama
23:14niya
23:14ang
23:14kanyang
23:15mga
23:15associates
23:15samagat
23:16nakarecord
23:17dito
23:17sa
23:17history
23:17ng
23:17arbitration
23:18at
23:19siya
23:20rin
23:20naman
23:20ay
23:20nakapunta
23:21sa
23:21kanyang
23:21mga
23:21associates
23:22very
23:23briefly
23:23sabi
23:23ng
23:23arbitration
23:25nandun
23:25siya
23:26pero
23:26wala siyang
23:27residence
23:27doon
23:28hindi
23:28mas
23:28siya
23:28nangisda
23:29doon
23:29they were
23:30talking
23:30about
23:30historical
23:31rights
23:31of
23:32who
23:32fish
23:32in
23:33that
23:33area
23:33who
23:34mine
23:34in
23:34that
23:34area
23:35so
23:35nabanggit
23:36talaga
23:36ang
23:36pangalan
23:37niya
23:37na
23:37he had
23:38some
23:39activities
23:39although
23:40briefly
23:40in
23:41Sprat
23:41Lease
23:42as well
23:42as
23:42in
23:42Ito
23:43ABA
23:43yun
23:44ay hindi
23:44natin
23:44pwedeng
23:45alisin
23:46sa
23:46history
23:46ngunit
23:47kung
23:47ay tinuturo
23:48po nila
23:49na
23:49Tomas
23:49Cloma
23:50ay siyang
23:51nagdiscover
23:52ng
23:52Sprat
23:52Lease
23:52ang dami
23:53pong
23:53bansa
23:53ang talagang
23:54nag-object
23:55kaya
23:55baka
23:56mamamali
23:56po
23:56yung mga
23:57estudyante
23:57na
23:58magte-take
23:59up
23:59ng
23:59course
24:00na yan
24:00lalong
24:00lalo
24:01naman
24:01hindi
24:01niya
24:02i-denonate
24:02because
24:04papano
24:05niya
24:05po
24:05i-denonate
24:05on record
24:06po
24:07ito
24:07the
24:08Philippines
24:09is one
24:10of those
24:10countries
24:11who
24:11objected
24:11kasi
24:12nga
24:12hindi
24:12siya
24:12terra
24:13nulyos
24:13meaning
24:14to
24:14say
24:14there
24:14are
24:15a lot
24:15of
24:15discoveries
24:21na dapat
24:21huwag
24:22natin
24:22susundin
24:23dahil
24:23mali
24:23yun
24:23lalong
24:23lalo
24:24naman
24:24na
24:25sinabing
24:25denonate
24:26at yan
24:27daw
24:27ay
24:27formalized
24:28sa
24:28Presidential
24:29Pd.
24:301596
24:30maling
24:31mali
24:31po
24:31yun
24:31kahit
24:32basahin
24:32po
24:33ninyo
24:33yung
24:33pd.
24:331596
24:34wala
24:35pong
24:35sinasabi
24:36tungkol
24:36kay
24:36Tomas
24:37Cloma
24:37yun
24:38po
24:38yun
24:39lang
24:39gusto
24:39kong
24:39burahin
24:40natin
24:41pag-aari
24:42po
24:42natin
24:43yung
24:44occupied
24:45territories
24:45natin
24:46not
24:46because
24:46they
24:47were
24:47discovered
24:47or
24:48donated
24:48by
24:48Tomas
24:49Cloma
24:49pag-aari
24:50natin
24:51simply
24:51because
24:51nandun
24:52ang mga
24:52tao
24:53natin
24:53and we
24:53have
24:54effective
24:54control
24:55under
24:55public
24:55international
24:56law
24:56kung
24:57sino
24:57merong
24:57effective
24:58control
24:58siya
24:59yung
24:59may-ari
24:59that's
25:00the
25:00status
25:00now
25:00so
25:01huwag
25:01natin
25:01sasangkot
25:02si Tomas
25:02Cloma
25:03sa mga
25:03bagay
25:04na hindi
25:04tama
25:05para
25:05sa
25:05kanya
25:05so
25:06yun
25:07lang
25:07pong
25:07i-correct
25:07natin
25:08let
25:15us
25:15the
25:15president
25:16marcos
25:16in his
25:17presidential
25:17decree
25:18that was
25:18all wrong
25:19that is
25:20historical
25:20distortion
25:21i think
25:22that is
25:22very very
25:23clear
25:23general
25:27thank you
25:29po
25:321991
25:33po
25:33nakilala
25:34si Tomas
25:34Cloma
25:351991
25:36pala
25:37nakinig po
25:38ako
25:38sige
25:39then i'll
25:39have a
25:40transcript
25:40have you
25:40clarified
25:41you want
25:42to read
25:42something
25:42to record
25:52nakilangan
25:53lang
25:53alisin
25:53sa
25:54historical
25:54record
25:55kung
25:55tinuturo
25:56man
25:56si
25:56Tomas
25:57Cloma
25:57huwag
25:58namang
25:58ilalagay
25:58siya
25:59na siyang
25:59nagdiscover
26:00because
26:00ang daming
26:01bansa
26:02pong
26:02nag-object
26:02kasama
26:03ng
26:03Pilipinas
26:04alam
26:05po
26:05ninyo
26:05kung
26:05sinong
26:05nag-object
26:06sa
26:07panig
26:07ng
26:07Pilipinas
26:08at
26:08that
26:08time
26:09when
26:09Tomas
26:09Cloma
26:10declared
26:10a
26:10freedom
26:11land
26:11do you
26:12know
26:12who
26:13represented
26:13our
26:14country
26:14when
26:15he
26:16himself
26:16objected
26:17to
26:18the
26:18declaration
26:18of
26:18Tomas
26:19Cloma
26:19alam
26:20po
26:20ba
26:20ninyo
26:21ko
26:21sino
26:23he
26:24was
26:24then
26:24our
26:24secretary
26:25of
26:25foreign
26:26affairs
26:27who
26:28later
26:28became
26:28president
26:29of
26:29the
26:29Philippines
26:30we
26:31see
26:35Carlos
26:35P
26:36Garcia
26:36salamat
26:37po
26:38madam
26:38chair
26:40to
26:40to
26:53him
26:53to
26:53to
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