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For the latest NME In Conversation, we talked to Leigh-Anne about her journey to her debut solo album 'My Ego Told Me To', how reggae and her Jamaican and Barbadian heritage are foundational to the record, and the legacy of Little Mix
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00:00I think we should be telling young women and girls to be confident
00:04because the world's going to try and tear that away from you.
00:08So yeah, I don't say the word overconfident or I don't like that word.
00:13We should all be able to feel that.
00:22Hi, I'm Nick and I'm joined by Leanne for the latest in enemies in conversation series.
00:27How's it going today?
00:28Hi, good. How are you?
00:29Yeah, great. Thank you. Thank you for joining us.
00:32First thing I wanted to ask about, the album's got an amazing title, My Ego Told Me To.
00:36What was the thinking behind the title? How did you come up with it?
00:38Yeah, so last year, I feel like that was kind of like my awakening in terms of,
00:46I knew I needed to leave the label, go independent and do this on my own.
00:53And when it was all kind of like in the midst of it and I was kind of like batting
00:58heads with them
00:59and it was just, it was just, it wasn't good.
01:02I went to the studio, blocked out all the noise and just, you know what, Leanne, just go in there
01:06and do what you want to do.
01:09Like forget all of it. Just go in and do you.
01:11And I had so much pent up frustration and just so much that I needed to get off my chest
01:17and say and I went into the studio with coffee.
01:20He did Levitating for Dua, like he's just phenomenal and Owen Cutts as well.
01:25And it was just like a bit of a dream team, to be honest.
01:27And I just felt so safe with them and literally just told them everything that was going on.
01:33And Dead and Gone came out that session and Revival.
01:37Both tracks that I feel like have such a different energy compared to anything I've done before.
01:44And confidence as well.
01:46And like, I was just, it just got me thinking more and more.
01:49It's like this version of myself, I need to bring more to the forefront.
01:53And this version is the younger version of me.
01:58So I guess you could call her an ego, but she is basically that young girl who went into the
02:04X Factor, dyed her hair red,
02:06had so much determination and drive and wouldn't listen to anyone that tried to tell her no or tried to
02:14tell her who she should be or whatever else.
02:16And I missed that fire.
02:19So, yeah, with these sessions, I just thought, you know, I need to bring her back.
02:23And I started to birth this ego and this different, this side of me.
02:29And my ego told me to, like, she is the one that, I guess, gave me the drive to go
02:38independent.
02:39And the one that made me do an album that I'm so proud of, like, doing it my way.
02:43And, yeah, like, this whole era is about, basically, my younger self coming back, this fire's energy that I feel
02:51like I've suppressed for so many years, I guess, in this industry.
02:54Why did you have to suppress it?
02:56Was part of it being in a group, you've got to kind of go with the majority decision, I guess.
03:01I think this side was depressed because if you think, yeah, I had all of this and then I got
03:07into the X Factor and then all of the outside things, I guess, played a part.
03:11So social media, like comparisons from being in a group, feeling like you don't want to say too much or
03:19be too loud, ruffle anyone's feathers.
03:24And, yeah, I think it was these sort of, like, outside things, like opinions and I think social media as
03:30well.
03:31Like, it's just, it could be so toxic.
03:32And when we went, when we got formed, it was when Twitter was just, Twitter and Instagram were just kind
03:38of becoming a thing as well.
03:40So all of a sudden, everyone can say what they want to say about you.
03:43And that's, like, nothing to take lightly, you know, it's, it's a lot.
03:48So, yeah, I think all of these things played a part.
03:52And, yeah, I just, I feel like I, I've missed her a bit.
03:56But she's back now.
03:57She's back.
03:57Like, yeah, but I think even, like, being independent and, like, just doing what I want to do is, like,
04:05this, just the confidence that comes with that and, like, the power that I feel, I think is, yeah, it's
04:12good.
04:13What are the major differences with being an independent artist?
04:15Because it's the first time for you ever, I guess.
04:17Yeah, yeah.
04:18First time ever.
04:20I think the big thing, I guess, is, like, you don't have a massive, like, you know, millions behind you,
04:28you know, like, labels can throw money at artists.
04:30And I'm essentially my own bank now.
04:33So I'm doing everything myself in that sense.
04:36I feel like I have to rely on my gut more as well, which is good because I want to.
04:41It doesn't fail me.
04:44And also, I think, like, being across everything, like, even down to the track listing, like, doing all of that
04:51myself.
04:52And usually you'd have, like, an A&R to really sort of do that with you.
04:57But I have an A&R and she's very much like, Lee, this is your project.
05:01You know what you're doing.
05:02And she's right.
05:03Like, of course I know what I'm doing.
05:05And, yeah, it is definitely different.
05:09But I just, I feel so good.
05:12Like, this is the best I think I've felt through my solo journey.
05:16And just knowing, like, I will look back on this in five years and be so proud that I did
05:20it this way because I haven't compromised.
05:23I've done it exactly the way that I want to do it.
05:25Is it a bit like being the boss of your own small business?
05:28Is that what it feels like?
05:29Yeah.
05:30Literally.
05:31Yeah.
05:33It is a lot, though it is.
05:35But, I don't know, I just think this day and age, artists, I feel like more and more artists are
05:41going independent.
05:42I just think, one, you can be your most authentic self.
05:46And having that control.
05:48And, like, how dated is it?
05:50Like, going into a studio, writing a song, sending it to somebody else and saying, do you like this?
05:56Can I release this?
05:57Like, that's not being an artist, really, is it?
06:00You know, so I think having the power in my hands is definitely, like, what's the word, overpowers anything else.
06:09You know, it's like, it's the best thing that I have that.
06:11You said the album was two years in the making.
06:13And as you say, you could, you have complete control now, so you can tell any story you want to.
06:16How did you decide what you wanted the album to be, like, how you wanted it to sound?
06:19Oh, so, yeah, I have just been writing this for two years.
06:23I think I had an amazing camp in Jamaica when I first went solo.
06:30When I first signed with Warner, I did this camp.
06:33And it was, honestly, it was so incredible.
06:36And did all of this music that was very much inspired by my heritage.
06:40Like, nature came out of that, which was very, like, reggae-leaning.
06:44And a lot of R&B came out of that camp as well and really felt like this is, we're
06:52onto something here.
06:53Like, this really feels like me.
06:55And then I think, like, after that camp, obviously, Don't Say Love was my first single.
07:02And as much as it is a banger and I love Don't Say Love, I just, I don't know if
07:07that would have been my first choice.
07:08Because I feel like at the camp in Jamaica, it just, I don't know, it's like, how do we go
07:14from that to all of a sudden, you're telling me what you think I should release?
07:20It was interesting, though, because before I heard the album, I was singing Questions to the Intro, I was going
07:23to ask, like, did you ever think about putting on some of the early songs?
07:26On this album, when I heard the album, I was like, well, of course not, because they wouldn't fit.
07:30I totally get it.
07:31Yeah, but I mean, yeah, I think my story journey has been so, it's been up and down.
07:36And I think the way that everything has happened has had to happen to get to this point, for sure.
07:42But I think even in terms of, like, some of the songs that I did at that camp and, like,
07:47with Warner, like, I didn't want to let go of some of them.
07:50So, like, there are songs like Heaven, Sunrise, Me Minus You, all songs that I've done from previous camps with
07:55Warner that I just couldn't lose.
07:58But there was one camp in particular in New York, and I worked with somebody called Elijah Ross.
08:04And he just reached out and, like, really wanted to work with me.
08:07And we did a camp and he got these amazing songwriters and producers.
08:12An amazing writer called Guy Lair was there as well.
08:14He's on quite a few of the tracks.
08:16And that, for me, really sort of set the tone of the album.
08:19And it was just, the amazing thing was just to go in and have no brief and no one to
08:25answer to.
08:26But at first I was a bit like, shit, I'm here on my own now.
08:31Like, what?
08:32This is crazy.
08:33So I think going into the next album and the next sort of sessions, it's just going to be even
08:39more elevated because I'm going to be even more confident.
08:42And it's just, it's been an interesting journey, but this album, I'm so proud of this album.
08:46Like, I'm so excited.
08:48I wanted to ask about some of the tracks specifically, one of which is Revival, which you mentioned.
08:53It feels like if you were a wrestler, this would be your ring walk song, maybe.
08:57Oh my God, I love that.
08:59And I love wrestling as well.
09:02Yes, I think Revival is all about taking back that control.
09:06And I guess it's that idea as well of, like, not letting people tell you what they think you should
09:12be.
09:12I think it is all about trusting myself and realising that I have done so much to get to this
09:18point.
09:19And then you are not going to tell me, like, who I should be in this industry and, like, the
09:24kind of artist that I should be.
09:25Like, I know who I am.
09:27And, yeah, it is all about reclaiming that power again.
09:30Did that get, in a weird way, did that get harder to do as you got more successful?
09:33Because the way the industry would see it is, well, this, Lil Mix were really successful.
09:37That's what Leanne was like.
09:38That's what she should do.
09:39Because, you know, the industry always wants to do what works again, don't they?
09:41What they think works.
09:42Yes.
09:43Oh my gosh, yes.
09:44And I just think there was just such this whole idea of, well, these expectations over my shoulder as well.
09:50Like, to be as successful as the group.
09:52Like, what does that even, like, how is that even possible, you know?
09:55And having that coming into the solo journey, like, it should have been, like, one of the funnest times of
10:01my life.
10:02Like, one of the funnest, yeah.
10:03And, like, one of the most amazing times.
10:05And I shouldn't have had that pressure because we've done it, you know?
10:09Like, this is now, for me, like, yes, obviously, like, I want everything to be successful.
10:15But this is also a bonus for me and my chance to just do what I want to do.
10:20Another track I wanted to ask about is the best version of me when you sing about the pressure and
10:24anxieties and insecurities and fighting to be the best version of yourself.
10:27What was the kind of root of those anxieties and insecurities?
10:30Is it kind of what you were just talking about?
10:32Yeah, I think it was, like, coming out of Little Mix and just, like, I think sometimes I underestimate how,
10:41I guess, like, this idea of finding who Leanne is.
10:46Like, all I've really known is the Leanne from Little Mix, like, for so much of my life.
10:53I got into that group when I was 19.
10:55So then to come out of it and think that I've got it all figured out, it's okay to not
11:04know that, you know, like, straight off the bat.
11:06And I think I really wanted to experiment and, I guess, like, find myself.
11:14And I think with Best Version of Me, it is literally all about being the truest version of me, like,
11:21exactly who I want to be and who I am.
11:26And, yeah, I think all of those sort of, like, things I kind of went through and struggles and pressures
11:33coming out of the group to, like, do I have to be just as successful?
11:38Do I have to, like, live up to what Little Mix did?
11:41Like, can't I just be myself and, like, release the music that I want to?
11:44And I think Best Version of Me as well is, like, very much me wanting to let fans into my
11:50head and, like, exactly how mentally I was feeling is super honest, super open.
11:59And I feel, like, really relatable as well.
12:02I guess the thing is, in the band, it's not like you ever really had, like, an extended period of
12:06time of where you could find out who you are outside the band.
12:08It's not like you had, like, a year off where you could experiment with selling music.
12:10The schedule was intense.
12:11You, like, were constantly releasing.
12:13Literally.
12:14And you can only really show a part of yourself.
12:17You can't show everything in a group.
12:19And it wasn't like we were in it for a couple of years.
12:22It was over a decade.
12:25So I feel like this album has kind of been, like, I guess a bit of therapy for me as
12:31well and just sort of, yeah, finding myself.
12:37Which song on there do you think will surprise fans the most?
12:41Do you know what?
12:41I just think the whole album's going to surprise fans.
12:43I think it will because I think people might have an idea of what they think this album's going to
12:49sound like.
12:49And I think people are going to be pleasantly surprised.
12:51There's so much variety on there.
12:52And I am a very versatile artist and I feel like I really show that on this album.
12:58But at the same time, I think there is, like, that sort of, like, reggae leaning sound that I think
13:06is, like, the footprint for the album.
13:10But then there's just so much more color to it as well.
13:13So I just think I found my thing and my lane and, like, that was, like, my main goal.
13:20I'm going so, like, what, who is the, what is the sound?
13:23What do you want to do?
13:24Like, what do you want to say?
13:25How do you want this to sound and feel?
13:27And I just feel like I've got there and I'm just like, yes.
13:31So I think the whole thing as a body of work.
13:34But, okay, maybe if I had to choose one song.
13:40Ooh, maybe Look Into My Eyes.
13:42Why that one?
13:43Because I think it's very unexpected.
13:46It's the first song on the album.
13:49I love how it kind of, like, starts with this sort of, like, reggae sort of sample feel.
13:55And then it just hits into, like, a, like, fall to floor sort of thing.
14:00It comes out of nowhere.
14:02For me, this track is all about taking up space, being unapologetic.
14:08It's, like, one of those things where if you're with me or with me, if you're not,
14:11hmm, hi, okay, see ya.
14:15I'm going to do me.
14:16So, yeah, maybe Look Into My Eyes.
14:19I was going to ask about Goodbye, Good Morning because that has this, like, blast of rock guitar,
14:22which, again, is quite unexpected because the first few tracks are kind of reggae-leaning
14:27and then this is, like, a different sound.
14:28You're like, oh, this is a whole other flavor.
14:29Yeah, I just want fans to be ready, yeah, for that, as I say, like, that sort of variety.
14:37And I don't know, I've always been, I guess, even in the group, I feel like our albums would
14:43always represent, like, have different sounds on there and be influenced by different sounds.
14:48And that was always something that we did.
14:50And I think that's something probably that I've taken into my solo album as well.
14:55But there are so many layers to me, too.
14:59So, I think, for me, it's all about showing those different sides and showing what I can do.
15:03And it somehow still manages to work out as one body of work, you know, even though it has these
15:09different sort of, like, colors to it.
15:11Another one of my favorite moments on the album is when your grandparents appear on You're A Star, which is
15:16a track on Interlude.
15:17Interlude, yeah.
15:18Interlude, yeah.
15:18What made you want to bring them on, though?
15:20Because it's a really sweet moment.
15:22Yeah, I wanted people to know, like, who I am and, like, my heritage.
15:28And why have I decided to have an album rooted in reggae?
15:33Like, why has she done this?
15:35And I think, for me, having them on there, I think when my grandma says, like, you are a star,
15:43when you went on to The X Factor and, like, that's what you said to me, like, I am a
15:47star.
15:48And it always takes me back to who I was before Little Mix.
15:52And I just think that is just so key to the story because she is my, that's my ego.
15:59That's my younger self.
16:01So it's just a really important, I guess, part to the story.
16:05But then my granddad as well, like, I really wanted him to say, like, what makes a pinup strong?
16:14Because we've always had this thing in our family, like, like, we're quite patriotic of our surname.
16:18Like, if you're a pinup, like, come on, you got this, like, you can do this.
16:22So I wanted to know, like, granddad, like, why, where did this come from?
16:26And he just, I just said, grandma, can you please get a voice note from granddad?
16:29And then she said that.
16:30And then he said that.
16:31And I was like, this is just perfect.
16:33Oh, but yeah, it's a really, like, beautiful moment in the album.
16:38I feel like that short little intro gives, like, a massive insight into you because you, as you say, you
16:44have your grandmother saying that you said at a young age, I'm a star, I'm going to do this.
16:49And then you've got your granddad talking about how the family's got always been hardworking, taking pride in hard work.
16:53And two of those things are both part of what has brought you to this place.
16:57Literally.
16:58Like, and I just can't wait for people to hear this and understand this and even, like, outside people as
17:06well and outsiders and people that just know me from Little Mix and that's it and maybe don't really know
17:11my journey.
17:12It's like, I want people to know why I got to this moment.
17:16So I'm hoping, I think it's going to be, like, that light bulb moment.
17:21Oh, okay.
17:22I get it now.
17:23This, like, drive you had at a young age, like, saying you're a star, going to do exercises your grandma
17:27talks about.
17:27Where do you think that came from?
17:29Did you kind of always know that performing was what you should be doing?
17:32So it's interesting because I was so shy as a child, like, I would hide behind my dad's legs and
17:38say I hate people's.
17:39Like, I was so, like, painfully shy, but then had this little voice and just wanted to sing.
17:46And then I just knew, like, in my heart that I had to overcome this.
17:50I had to overcome this, like, fear.
17:51I'd always look at the floor.
17:53I'd always have the backing track too loud, but I just wanted to sing.
17:56So it was something that I really worked at, I guess, like, putting myself out there, talent shows and wherever
18:02else.
18:04And I guess as I got older into secondary school, like, I built a lot of confidence in secondary school.
18:09And I was always the one that was, like, debating in class and standing up for my friends.
18:14And I guess, like, I had a lot of fire and determination.
18:20And anyone that I met, I told them I was going to be a pop star.
18:23Like, I was seriously deluded.
18:26And, like, I'd write Facebook statuses.
18:28Like, I'm going to, Leanne is going to be a star.
18:30Leanne is going to be rich one day.
18:32Leanne is going to be performing at Madison Square Garden one day.
18:35Like, all of these things.
18:36And I didn't listen to any of the outside hate.
18:39And anyone that had anything to say about that will tell me that I wasn't going to do it.
18:42Like, I didn't care.
18:44And I just went for it.
18:46Yeah, it's like, okay, that was that girl.
18:48And then got into the group.
18:50Her dream came true.
18:51And then it's, like, slowly started to trickle that sort of, like, energy.
18:58So, yeah, I just, I knew I had to bring her back, for sure.
19:01When you were young and you say you're posting Facebook statuses saying you're going to be a pop star,
19:06how did, like, other kids react?
19:07Because kids can be really cruel to anyone who's different.
19:09And you're basically saying that you're different because you're saying I'm going to be a star.
19:12I think, yeah, sometimes confidence can be looked at, like, as a negative or a bad thing.
19:18Like, who do you think you are, like, saying that?
19:21Or I feel like maybe there's a lot of people, like, in my hometown that didn't get me.
19:28And, I don't know, like, maybe weren't as supportive.
19:31And then, like, there were times where I'd stand up for my friends in situations.
19:34And then their beef would be my beef.
19:36And I'd have, like, haters and whatever.
19:38Like, yeah, there was one time where I was singing.
19:41Because I was in, like, a community choir.
19:43And I was singing a solo song.
19:44And, like, one girl went dead.
19:46Like, literally shouted it, like, in front of the whole crowd.
19:50And it was one girl that I was kind of having a thing with.
19:53And it's just, like, all those little things.
19:55But I kept singing.
19:55I didn't care.
19:57I was like, you can't tell me.
19:58Like, I don't care what any of you have to say about me or, like, if I'm going to make
20:03it or not.
20:05But, yeah, I definitely feel like, like, even when I look at my girls.
20:08And they're four years old.
20:09And they are so confident.
20:12I've never seen anything like it.
20:13And I look at them and I'm like, where do you get this from?
20:15Because when I was your age, I was not like this.
20:18And I just love it.
20:19And all I want to do is, like, nurture it and keep it safe.
20:24Because it is those outside elements that can take that away.
20:28And I think we should be telling young women and girls to be confident.
20:34And because the world's going to try and tear that away from you.
20:38And so, yeah, I don't say the word, like, word overconfident or I don't like that word.
20:44Like, I think we should all be able to feel that.
20:47As someone who's really experienced the kind of the most toxic side of social media,
20:51does that make you, they're probably way too young.
20:54As they get older, does that make you really keen to keep your kids off it as much as possible?
20:58Because, I mean, it's so wild with children nowadays.
21:00My nephew's five and, like, he doesn't go on social media,
21:03but he knows how to take the phone and he knows how to call me.
21:05Oh, my gosh.
21:06Yes.
21:07At 5.30 in the morning.
21:08Oh, my God.
21:09Stop.
21:09Oh, no.
21:11My sister's number's up.
21:12She would never ring me now.
21:13I know it's not her.
21:13Oh, that is hilarious.
21:15Yeah, no, they're quite savvy on phones, aren't they?
21:17My God.
21:19But, yeah, no, I definitely want to protect them from it as long as possible, to be honest.
21:25And I just think nowadays everyone is just, why are people so mean?
21:29And they're people, like, we always get trolls, but there's something feels rife right now.
21:35But I don't know if it's because people, like, say negative comments and they want to get the likes
21:40and say the most meanest things.
21:42They know they're going to get traction on it.
21:44I don't know.
21:45But it's like, do you know anyone that writes negative comments?
21:48No, no, I didn't know who they were.
21:49Yeah.
21:50Because it's like, who does that?
21:51It's like, it's not really a normal thing to do, is it?
21:54But I just think it's a reflection on them.
21:56I find it odd nowadays that there's, like, a certain type of fan who will have, like,
22:01their, like, profile picture will be the artist and they're a fan of the artist,
22:04but they're basically negging them all the time.
22:06That never used to be the case, I don't think.
22:07You'd have, fans would really be for the person and then there would be trials.
22:10But now there's this sort of type of fan who are almost...
22:12Quite random.
22:13Yeah, that's how it's developed, I think.
22:15Yeah, no, it is...
22:16You've got to be really thick-skinned to be on social media, man.
22:20I don't look, really.
22:22Like, at the minute, I feel like because there's quite, like, a conversation around, like,
22:26my solo career and the music that I'm doing and music choice is very different to the group
22:30and, like, people having opinions on what I'm doing.
22:34Some very negative, like, some very positive, but because I know it's happening, I'm not looking
22:40because it will just throw me and I'm not going to be thrown right now because I know what I'm
22:45doing.
22:45I've got my tunnel vision and I'm sticking to what I'm doing.
22:48What are you most proud of in your career at this point?
22:50Because we were discussing this earlier.
22:51It's been 15 years.
22:53It's a long time.
22:54Oh, no.
22:56I was proud of...
22:58I mean, when I look back on Little Mix and everything we've done, I'm like, wow.
23:02Like, we really, really killed it.
23:06And, like, when you think about all of the, like, accolades and the records that we broke,
23:12like, it's just unbelievable.
23:14And even, like, the millions that we've sold, like, it's just...
23:17So all of that, everything that we've done and then being able to stick it out for over 10 years,
23:22like, that is...
23:24Like, we're...
23:25I think we're legacy status at this point.
23:26Like, it's just unbelievable.
23:29So, like, now going into my solo career, I mean, I'm really, really proud.
23:34I'm proud of myself, like, for one, even doing it in the first place.
23:37And having two top 40 singles, like, one after the other, I think, is incredible.
23:44Having a sold-out tour for my EP, you know, I have feelings.
23:49And getting to this moment now where I'm about to release my debut album.
23:52I'm like, come the fuck off.
23:56Yeah, it's...
23:57I just feel happy that I've got to this point and I've done it myself.
24:00When you...
24:01There was, like, there was a certain stigma with any group that came from a reality show
24:06and I think girl bands get a certain stigma anyway.
24:08Was there a point when you thought, hang on, Little Mix is suddenly being taken seriously now?
24:12Like, how long did it take to get to that point where you felt like people were giving you a
24:15full credit?
24:15It's so funny you say that because we were talking earlier about how people used to look at pop music
24:20as well.
24:21Like, it wasn't cool.
24:23And, like, it was nothing...
24:24It felt like sometimes nothing we could do to make ourselves, like, people realise that we are...
24:30Like, we are incredible artists.
24:31We write our own music.
24:32Like, look how hard we work.
24:34Like, you...
24:35Oh, my gosh.
24:36We used to put in so many hours.
24:37Like, just...
24:38We worked our horses up.
24:40We had to.
24:41We had to work ten times harder.
24:43And I just think it's quite a different day and age now, isn't it?
24:47And I wonder what it would be like if we existed now.
24:50Like, I'm pretty sure we would have had a Grammy by now.
24:52Like, things like that, you know?
24:56So, yeah, it's like...
24:57It's definitely something I look back on and I'm like, gosh.
25:02But then I just also feel like all of that gave us that fighter spirit that we all have now
25:08still.
25:09And we're all so humble as well.
25:11Like, not to blow my own trumpet, but, like, we are.
25:14We're all so normal.
25:15And I think that comes from having, like, good people around us and, you know, have yes people around us.
25:20Like, we're just very grounded.
25:23So, I'm actually...
25:24Like, I look back on our career and everything we did and I really love that it went that way,
25:30if that makes sense.
25:31I think one of the most amazing moments was when you won Best British Group at the Brit Awards.
25:35And you took the opportunity to thank all the other girl groups who had been nominated, but not one.
25:39And it was an amazing moment that showed you were acutely aware of the fights you'd had to make and
25:44all those other bands that had beforehand.
25:46Exactly, yeah.
25:47And if you think it was just crazy that no other girl group had won that.
25:51Like, it didn't...
25:52Make it make sense, please.
25:54Right?
25:55Oh, gosh.
25:56Yeah.
25:57If one Little Mix song was to pop off on TikTok and have a little, like, revival moment, which one
26:02would you like it to be?
26:03I did ask Jade this and she said Wings.
26:05Oh!
26:06Because she felt that that's where you started.
26:08Yeah, yeah, yeah.
26:09Wings is such a banger as well.
26:10Oh, my God.
26:14I think...
26:15Because a lot of our songs did have great moments.
26:18There were some that...
26:19It wasn't, like, many weren't hits, to be fair.
26:21Yeah, no, we did pretty good in that sense.
26:23I mean, I would probably say...
26:27Do you know what?
26:27No More Sad Songs.
26:28I think it's a banger.
26:30Isn't it?
26:31Oh, yeah.
26:32I love that song.
26:32Yeah, and the video.
26:34And, yes, it still...
26:35I mean, it still did very well.
26:36But, like, I think to have another little life would be nice.
26:40You've got some shows coming up in April.
26:44Yeah.
26:44What can we expect from those?
26:45I saw you at Mighty Hoopla Malta last October, so I've got a bit of a flavour of the high
26:49-energy vibe.
26:50There's a lot of dancers.
26:51Yes.
26:52Definitely fun.
26:53I think, yeah, 100% high-energy.
26:55I'm excited to bring the story to life of the album as well.
27:00And, yeah, just really excited to get into, like, just the creative in general and, like, how I'm going to
27:05unfold this story and make it, obviously, different to my last tour.
27:12I obviously love putting on a show.
27:14Like, it will always be a spectacle in that sense, for sure.
27:21So, yeah.
27:22And I just can't wait to perform these songs live.
27:24I think there's just so many, like, incredible moments on the album, like, Yeah, Goodbye, Good Morning, that insane guitar
27:30solo at the end.
27:31Like, oh, I can't wait to hear that live.
27:33And, like, I remember when I cut that song as well, and it was Chris Riddick, who did Folded for
27:41Kalani, Snooze for Scissor, and Alex Goldblatt, who did the guitar solo.
27:49And when he was doing it, we were like, we just need something sexy on the guitar.
27:53And he was, like, riffing.
27:54And then we finally found it.
27:56And then, as he was playing it down for the track, like, I literally was just, all I could think
28:01about was me on stage.
28:02And that moment, like, of the song ending, like, blackout, curtains, and then, like, the next section of the tour.
28:11Like, that's all I could think about.
28:13So, now that I get to actually do that with this track and bring that to life, I'm like, I
28:17just can't make it.
28:18Have you already started work on the next album?
28:20Is it already?
28:21I've been thinking about it.
28:22You've been thinking about it?
28:23Yeah, thinking about, like, ideas and where I want it to go.
28:28I'm just excited for, like, no boundaries and no, just the idea of just to continue to explore my artistry
28:35and take it to new places.
28:37And, yeah, I'm excited.
28:39Final question, what do you want people to think when they see the name Leanne on Spotify or maybe outside
28:45the venue?
28:46Oh, wow.
28:48I, oh, wow.
28:51I would love for you to, I guess, one, listen to the album and, like, understand my story and, like,
28:58why I've got to this point.
29:00Understand who Leanne is as an artist.
29:03Because I think there's no better way to show that and tell that than through your debut album.
29:08So, I'm excited for that moment.
29:10And I guess appreciate and hopefully love the fact that I have sort of, like, carved out this own little
29:19lane for myself.
29:20And, yeah, hopefully people receive it.
29:25Amazing.
29:25Well, yeah, thank you so much for your time.
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