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In their exclusive first interview, Norwegian alt-pop pioneer Aurora and The Chemical Brothers dance legend Tom Rowlands talk to NME's Andrew Trendell for In Conversation about coming together for their huge debut album 'Come Closer', the importance of connection and activism in hard times, their plans for Coachella and explosive live show, and what the future holds for the pair.
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00:00And Tom, have you found yourself pulling some new moves you've never pulled before?
00:04So many new moves.
00:06So many moves.
00:07There's a lot of plans.
00:08That's why I do this.
00:10You're very good.
00:11And then this.
00:22Hi, I'm Andrew Trendle.
00:23You're watching NMEs In Conversation.
00:25We are here today, Tom Rowland and Aurora,
00:28who combine to form the mighty Tamora.
00:32Tamora? How are we saying it? Tamora?
00:34Yes.
00:35How are you guys doing, sir?
00:37We are good.
00:38We are good and fabulous. Hydrated.
00:40We are here at the world-famous social in London.
00:45Formed, of course, from the legendary Heavenly Social.
00:49And I guess, Tom, you've probably got some very, very sketchy memories of being in and around here.
00:53Yeah. I mean, it was like the beginning of our story, really.
00:57Mine and Ed's DJing together for the Heavenly Social.
01:01Yeah, it was, you know, such a crucial part of our band's kind of identity and the people we met and the scene that we were involved in.
01:09Yeah, so it's nice to be back here.
01:11It feels good to be here with this new chapter. And Aurora, have you ever had a wild night out with Tom or did you show him, like, the dark side of Bergen?
01:17Yes, the dark. It's the only dark side.
01:19Every dark side in that forest.
01:20It's the only side.
01:21No, we haven't gone out dancing, but every time we make Tamora music, we dance a lot.
01:30That's a lot of fun.
01:31Yeah, it feels like a party.
01:33A nightclub is in here.
01:34A nightclub is in here and that's the only club that matters. The best club in the world.
01:38Well, Laura, we've naturally spoken a lot. And over those years, you've talked about Tom a lot.
01:43Yeah.
01:44And he said, we feel like two little aliens walking around and we have the same hunger for something exceptional.
01:51Yeah.
01:52Tom responded.
01:53That's a lovely way to put it. Yeah. The exceptional is what we want to deal in. You know, it's what excites us both, I think.
02:00And the collaboration between us brings out something new, doesn't it?
02:05Yeah, it does. It's really fun.
02:07Oh my God, we're having a lot of fun. And it's so nice because it feels like so back to the roots of why it's beautiful to make music.
02:17Because it's just fun and there's no pressure or expectations, as you talk about a lot as well.
02:23Yeah, no obligation, you know, no feeling. And we got together to make music without any idea that it would lead to anything or it would be making an album or it was just to be the last experience I had of making music with Aurora.
02:36So I just cherish this sort of moment of freedom and fun and creativity and making something great.
02:44And it was like, oh, I want to have that feeling again. And there wasn't any idea that we were going to release anything or even finish anything.
02:51It was just the experience of being, making music together.
02:54In the studio, yeah.
02:55She had tons of fun.
02:56Aurora, you also tell me that you've loved Chemical Brothers since you were a span, is how you put it.
03:02But then you later said, but it was actually the soundtrack to Hannah that first sort of captured you, right?
03:08I was sadly a sperm until the age of 14. It was very hard for me.
03:13How was school?
03:14Oh, it was very hard to hold a pen. Can you imagine? I could barely do it.
03:19But yes, I am...
03:21Then you found your egg.
03:23You found your egg?
03:24Yeah, at school.
03:25And then I discovered Hannah and I just thought it was the...
03:30It's my favorite soundtrack to a film, still.
03:34And the sounds are so massive, but also delicate and so brutal, but kind.
03:41And it's so dark, but also so playful and beautiful.
03:45And I love...
03:46It's the perfect soundtrack to that movie.
03:50And I just remember it making a huge impact on me.
03:54And I think it was the first piece of music I kind of discovered on my own and found for myself.
04:01And then I went deeper into Tom Rowland's world and Chemical Brothers and...
04:07A big ravey wormhole.
04:08I just thought this is fantastic. This is very...
04:10This really tickles me in all the right places, which is very good.
04:15So yeah, I have a very special relationship to Chemical Brothers and Tom.
04:22And Tom, you asked Aurora to jump on a few tracks on No Geography,
04:26with Eve of Destruction becoming a sort of latter day peak of the chem set.
04:31Yeah.
04:32What was it about Aurora that first kind of drew you in?
04:34I saw her at Glastonbury on the coverage. I wasn't at Glastonbury.
04:39I think I was on my sofa watching Glastonbury.
04:42Aren't you always at Glastonbury?
04:43I am, but I don't know. That, yeah.
04:45Lazy man.
04:46For some reason, I didn't. I was just sick.
04:47And this presence came out of the screen towards me.
04:50Like in the ring.
04:51And I was like...
04:52What is this?
04:53What is going on here?
04:55It was, you know, some...
04:58Something about the sort of power and the strength and the sort of steeliness
05:03that Aurora does have like a...
05:05You know, but also so beautiful and vulnerable and all these things at once.
05:10And I was like, wow, that's something incredible going...
05:13Happening there on that stage.
05:15And it was like, oh, it would be a nice idea to try and make music together.
05:19So I wrote an email to her.
05:22And then it was just tumbleweed.
05:24And I was like, oh, well. Oh, well.
05:28But fortunately.
05:30Yeah.
05:31And it is a week to collect myself to answer the mail.
05:37So I guess you thought I wasn't going to answer ever.
05:41But then a week went by and I thought, okay, now I feel like I can answer this with dignity.
05:48No emojis.
05:49Yeah.
05:50Always with dignity.
05:51Always with dignity.
05:52Always with dignity.
05:53So I was like, I need to collect myself so I can be dignified in this...
05:56In our first exchange.
05:57Dear sir.
05:58Yes.
05:59Yeah, exactly.
06:00Like this...
06:01Dear sir.
06:02I would be very delighted.
06:04Absolutely.
06:05Yes.
06:06So it was very...
06:08No, I was over the moon.
06:09I was extremely happy.
06:10I thought, yes, this would be so nice.
06:12Also at that time in my life, it would...
06:14It felt like a very perfect thing.
06:16The first need of a tiny holiday for myself.
06:20Now also we're having another holiday.
06:23Even a bit longer.
06:24Yeah.
06:25From ourself.
06:26Yeah, definitely.
06:27Just like we will return, obviously, to our own paths.
06:32But it's nice to have this little...
06:33It feels like a holiday.
06:34But that was the initial sort of impact.
06:37First time you guys worked together, right?
06:38Because am I right that after...
06:40So the sessions were 2017.
06:42And am I right that you were sort of feeling a bit lost after sort of...
06:45Releasing all my demons into the world.
06:47And wanted to know where to go next.
06:49And then sort of...
06:50Working with Tom was like the catalyst to that, right?
06:52Yeah, because we...
06:53I toured for very much like...
06:56300 shows in a year.
06:58Kind of in 2016.
07:00And I remember...
07:02It was my first tour.
07:03And I thought, is this how it always is?
07:06And, you know.
07:07And I returned home like a shell of myself after that tour.
07:12And I thought, this can't be it.
07:14And it doesn't seem right.
07:16And then I kind of wondered whether I was going to be an artist more or not.
07:22So I thought, this seems to be very far from the core of what I love about music.
07:28And then, yeah, that's exactly when I got Your May.
07:31And I thought, well, this is music.
07:34And it's something new.
07:36And it's something that has no...
07:39Kind of very little burden on my shoulders.
07:42So I thought, that would be amazing.
07:45And then just being there...
07:47On the countryside.
07:49In the house I lived in.
07:51Like with this beautiful family and...
07:53It's just the whole adventure and meeting you and...
07:56Being in the studio and...
07:58Everything being so intuitive.
08:01And it felt just like a really good thing for my soul, I remember.
08:04And I returned home really full.
08:08It was really good.
08:10And Tom, did you sense you were having that impact at the time?
08:12Did you feel like there was something more going on?
08:14I didn't know the sort of significance of it.
08:16But I'm really...
08:17You know, it's a real leap to just get on a plane and arrive at a station.
08:22And me just go, hello.
08:24You know, it's like...
08:25Yeah, it's a leap of faith, you know.
08:27And it's easy to say no and not put yourself in this...
08:32You know, it can be hard.
08:34You know, you're going into a creative thing.
08:35And two people that we don't know each other.
08:37And we're sitting down for the first time.
08:38And it's like...
08:40But it wasn't like that, was it?
08:41It was just like immediately we got together and we were just playing things.
08:44And you know, Aurora's kind of response to sounds and stuff.
08:48It just blew my mind apart really.
08:50And it was just like...
08:51Ah, it's just so...
08:52You know.
08:53It was, yeah.
08:54It's something that I really cherished really in my creative sort of life.
08:57It was...
08:59So to bring...
09:00To make...
09:01To do more with it was like a dream really.
09:03And you maintained trust despite Aurora was ruining your daughter's birthday by going missing.
09:08Helicopters called in.
09:09And I'm always there on your birthday.
09:11And since then I've been there so often on your birthday.
09:13Yeah.
09:14It's always like...
09:15Hi there.
09:16Disturbing the family birthday.
09:17Yeah.
09:18She did get lost in the forest.
09:21There was one moment I was thinking, oh my God.
09:23I can't have...
09:24I can't have lost Aurora.
09:26It was like...
09:27There's no sort of phone.
09:28No.
09:29I am just...
09:30Just going for a walk.
09:31And then it's sort of...
09:32Okay.
09:33I'm sure she'll be back in a bit.
09:34I was going, you know, you can't just...
09:35Can't lose...
09:36You know, you can't lose Aurora.
09:37Can't lose Aurora.
09:38I was lost.
09:39He lost.
09:40And it was dark and I was sort of going around like, oh my God.
09:43Trying to get my friends involved to like, we need to get out there.
09:46And then she just...
09:47I came like the whole wrong way.
09:49I remember climbing some fences and going over places that felt like I shouldn't be walking.
09:55And then kind of got back.
09:57A bit muddy.
09:58I live here now.
09:59Good adventure.
10:00Yeah.
10:01I go, hello.
10:02I didn't know that you've been worrying.
10:03I was so sorry.
10:04I tried to be of little inconvenience.
10:07And then I just became a huge worry for that.
10:10And I found a bar and a local place.
10:12Yeah, you found them.
10:13Yeah.
10:14The pub.
10:15Yeah.
10:16The pub.
10:17Big hit with the locals.
10:18And I walked into the forest again and I didn't know where I was.
10:21But I was closer than I thought the whole time.
10:23But I just didn't know.
10:25Do you have Strava so you can see like the crazy route?
10:27No, I think...
10:28I didn't even...
10:29It wasn't locked in on the Strava.
10:30No, I wasn't locked in in 2017.
10:32I need to get my miles in today.
10:34Yeah.
10:35And that's always very important.
10:37I prefer to have taken one step each day.
10:41The next big step came when Tom, you, in Aurora's words, puked and vomited your sound
10:47all over...
10:49My body is not mine.
10:50What happened to the heart?
10:52My body is mine.
10:53I put a pause in there because I didn't want to say puked and vomit all over my body.
10:56Okay.
10:57So I put...
10:58Puked and vomited all over.
10:59What happened to the heart track?
11:00My body is not mine.
11:01And that's when you sort of realized that there was...
11:03You needed to kind of investigate this more, right?
11:05This collaboration and make something...
11:07No, no, no.
11:08I mean, I knew...
11:09You know, like it was...
11:10That was just for me like a continuation of the thing.
11:14Yeah.
11:15And being able to...
11:16You know, got this text message going, got this song, but...
11:19I need you to destroy it in some way.
11:22Yeah, because then we just had...
11:23Then we already had quite a good...
11:25It was also like about four hours.
11:26It was like, you got this time to do it.
11:28And I was like...
11:29I had such a deadline.
11:30So I was like, Tom, you have four hours.
11:32Puked on it.
11:33Give it back.
11:34Four hours to save the world.
11:35Yeah, I knew exactly what to do.
11:36Yeah, it was fun.
11:37And I got it back and I was like, yes.
11:38And then, see, it's fire now.
11:40The part is so fun.
11:41Because then he just made a view.
11:43Sorry, you were here.
11:44Made the whole ending that didn't...
11:47That wasn't even there again.
11:49And I thought, yes, this is very nice.
11:50So that opened up to a part many people back home seems to enjoy.
11:55The call out for ceasefire.
11:57Yeah.
11:58And it was very...
11:59Yeah, I was very happy.
12:00You did very good.
12:01With very little time.
12:02He knows how to...
12:03We aim to please.
12:04I wish I had another word than vomit, but...
12:08Like to pour...
12:11Something...
12:13That isn't musical...
12:16Over.
12:17Something...
12:18That is very musical.
12:20That's my talent right now.
12:22Yeah.
12:23That's my talent.
12:24To destroy...
12:25Nice music.
12:26Everywhere we go.
12:27Yeah, make it growl a bit.
12:29And Tarvid, being in the Chemical Brothers must be a fairly all-encompassing, life-consuming thing.
12:36I mean, what does it mean to kind of have this vehicle?
12:39Oh, it's nice.
12:40I mean, I love...
12:41You know, every day has been spent working towards the Chemical Brothers.
12:45I love working with Ed and the music we've made together.
12:48And, you know, it's been my life.
12:50And it still is my life, you know.
12:52But it was nice to get to...
12:53I think after the last tour, and making ten albums,
12:57there was a bit of a feeling of like,
12:59I need to just have some other little thing happen.
13:03Yeah.
13:04And some other little thing to think about.
13:06Yeah, to wake up in the morning and going,
13:07Oh, this is the challenge I've got today.
13:09This is what my brain is engaged with.
13:12And as I was saying, you know, like the experience working with Aurora on No Geography album was so...
13:21I don't know, just a real beautiful thing to me.
13:24And I was like, I want to have that feeling again.
13:27Sorry.
13:29Yeah, let's go, let's go.
13:33Yeah, nice.
13:34Yeah, I mean...
13:36I feel like...
13:39Because in reality also, this year, maybe for both of us,
13:43we would have had like a year off when we made music.
13:47But then, since we accidentally made music...
13:50Not accidentally, but it just came while we both were also touring,
13:55and kind of in between when we had days off.
14:00And we just chose to make music instead of having a day off,
14:04because it felt more nice almost for the heart.
14:08It's so good to create.
14:10So instead of having a year off where I'm just completely away,
14:13it means I'm...
14:15Me and Tom are out there again and in the arms of music still,
14:20just like something else, which makes it feel like resting as well.
14:24But also, yes, I'm very happy to have like a resting year
14:29where me and Tom are...
14:30Active resting.
14:31An active resting year where me and Tom,
14:34where Tamora gets to carry us around in its arms.
14:39Well, that's it.
14:40So we're here today to celebrate and announce Tamora's debut album,
14:44Come Closer.
14:45It's amazing. You lucky, lucky people.
14:47But you guys are both separately what you guys do really well
14:50in two very, very different fields.
14:52But you kind of...
14:53You're very good at like world building when you guys make a record.
14:56How would you describe the world you've made here?
14:58I kind of spoke about this before, but...
15:02Me and Tom know very much who we are.
15:04And we also know what we like for Chemical Brothers, for Aurora.
15:10But then in our Venn diagram that overlaps, the tiny part in there,
15:17that is big also, but like that's Tamora.
15:20And that's also very specific to us.
15:22It's a very specific, clear thing that we both know this is exactly it.
15:28Like we saw a picture of a thing.
15:31We can't speak too much about it, but like it was a...
15:33And we were like, this is Tamora.
15:35Oh no, this is not.
15:37Yes, and like it's so clear without speaking about it.
15:41We both are so like, this is exactly what Tamora has to be
15:44and what we want it to be.
15:46And it happens very organically as well, which is very nice.
15:50And I feel like this, all these different characters,
15:55every song is like a very distinct...
15:58Really?
15:59...character and will explain more about what they mean to each other
16:05when you hear the music.
16:07It's a really good statement to say, come together at a time
16:12when everyone's being pulled apart and technology is making everyone
16:15feel more distant and further from the truth and authenticity.
16:18This is real.
16:19We're really here.
16:20No AI.
16:21I mean, was it important to make a statement like that at a time like this
16:25and for the music to kind of speak to that?
16:27I think it always is.
16:29We always want connection, don't we?
16:31It's like in the studio, the thing when we're writing the music
16:35is the connection we have in the music is like, it's a powerful thing.
16:41Yeah, it really is.
16:43And the album is like about a search for some connection.
16:48Yeah, for connection.
16:49And also the name Tomora means a friendly companion on earth on Japanese,
16:56which we didn't know until we knew.
17:00But it's first and foremost just the merging of our names.
17:06But it's so sweet how it means a friendly companion on earth
17:11because that is such a simple thing that we sometimes forget the importance of in this world.
17:19And I think the name, Come Closer, it's kind of like, because it's like a weird, tiny, big world and we're like,
17:30I'm here, please, please.
17:34And you'll understand what this means.
17:37Yes.
17:38Come, come here, come closer.
17:40So it's like this nice whisper of a nice secret.
17:46And you have to come close to hear it.
17:49We should get closer to the camera for this. No, we wouldn't.
17:53But Aurora, for you, I mean, like your artistry, your activism, your sense of community have always gone hand in hand.
17:59I mean, is that something you guys talk about a lot and has that bled into this record, would you say?
18:05I think it has because we, every day when we go in the studio, we always talk like it's very,
18:13the state of the world is very with us in our morning conversation with our coffee before we go into the studio.
18:22It's very like, we talk and we discuss and we kind of, you know,
18:28which I think is very important with the people around you when the world is so activated with action and demands of human rights
18:39or however small or big the ask is, it's still all so valid and important things.
18:46And we kind of keep this in our mind and in our heart whenever we are together.
18:52Humanity of it, isn't it? Music is, yeah.
18:55Because you have to.
18:56Connection with, you know, like emotional communication through the sound and through the voice
19:03is for us like, you know, the essence of it really. It's about humanity, isn't it?
19:07Yeah, it really is.
19:08And keeping, it's...
19:09So it's all in there.
19:10It's all in there.
19:11Yeah.
19:12Yeah.
19:13Yeah.
19:14But it's, it is, but in a way that it's very different to how I do it and how also you do it.
19:20Yeah, yeah.
19:21It's in the voice of tomorrow, which has very its own activism voice, which is also interesting.
19:29Yeah.
19:30It's a mix between escapism and confrontation.
19:34Yeah.
19:35And happiness and sadness.
19:38Yeah.
19:39It's very, it's nice to, to explore the different voices the representation of your time can have.
19:46Yeah.
19:47In art and in music.
19:48And that sounds like this, like coming together as a political act in itself, isn't it?
19:51When you feel like people don't have to get political at Glastonbury for Glastonbury to feel political
19:54because everyone is just saying nothing else matters apart from this.
19:59Anything that gives an excuse for people to leave their house and be with other people
20:04and experience something collectively together.
20:07It's like, especially in musical, feel the same thing at the same time.
20:13You know, it's a big, it's a big thing.
20:15And you'll be making your debut.
20:17This is Coachella by the way.
20:18I don't know if you can see that.
20:19That's James Murphy on stage at Coachella.
20:21That'll be you.
20:23Just there.
20:24Very, very soon.
20:25I don't know if we can afford that size of a mirror ball.
20:28No, we can't afford it.
20:30Tomorrow it's very poor.
20:31You have to send.
20:32We have a bar.
20:33We have a bar.
20:34We don't can afford that.
20:36We can bring a little bubble.
20:38We can blow some soap.
20:40A bubble, yes.
20:41A bubble.
20:42And we all bring our...
20:43Fidget spinners.
20:44Yeah, fidget spinners.
20:45We have all these ideas.
20:47It's going to be great.
20:48But yeah, our first show kind of...
20:50It's on Coachella.
20:52And we...
20:53Because I think the poster was kind of leaked, wasn't it?
20:55Yeah.
20:56So it came out a bit before.
20:58And then we just saw ourselves in the corner.
21:00And we were like, where are we?
21:02Look it up.
21:04It was very fun.
21:06It was fun to see...
21:07A little tomorrow.
21:08A little tomorrow.
21:09And people discussing and wondering who we were.
21:12Were you jumping on Reddit making up loads of lies and rumours?
21:15No, but people told us that people were very in investigation mode.
21:23Oh yeah, because you know what you've been playing.
21:24And that filled us with delight.
21:25Ring the Alarm, a DJ set.
21:27Yeah.
21:28Yeah, me and Ed have been playing it.
21:30Yeah, it's been a fun song to DJ with.
21:33Yeah.
21:34It's crazy.
21:35Crazy moment in a set.
21:36Yeah, it's fun.
21:37Yeah, it's...
21:38It's going to be amazing to play live.
21:39Yeah, I mean the music we've written...
21:41It's going to be wild, isn't it?
21:42Yeah, it's going to be.
21:43It's going to be.
21:44Very...
21:45I have to tell to all my...
21:46All of my fans in the...
21:48Autistic community.
21:50Please bring...
21:51Ear protection.
21:53And we just...
21:56It's going to be okay.
21:58Protect your ears.
22:01Yeah.
22:02But I'm ready for...
22:03Ring the Alarm.
22:04I'm ready for...
22:05I drink the lights.
22:06That's going to go off live.
22:07In a minute.
22:08That's going to be big.
22:09My baby I'm quite excited for.
22:11It's like smoky jazz club vibes.
22:13Yeah.
22:14With the hugest sunbass you're ever going to hear.
22:16Destroy the jazz club.
22:18That's good.
22:19Yeah, that's our goal.
22:20We don't want any structure to be left in a building after we've been there.
22:25I love it.
22:26We used to play gigs and the bits of the ceiling would fall off.
22:28Yeah.
22:29And so it's good...
22:30As long as you weren't standing underneath.
22:32It was always a great sign.
22:33A bit of ceiling plaster coming off.
22:35So that's very good.
22:36But what can you tell us about the Tomorrow Live experience?
22:39What are we going to...
22:40Because you've got visuals from Cam's collab, Adam Smith.
22:43So what are we going to see?
22:44He worked on Aurora's live show.
22:46Oh, cool.
22:47Here my whole last tour, I did with Adam.
22:51I remember that Royal Lab at Hall.
22:52That was really, really immersive.
22:55Oh, yes.
22:56Yes.
22:57A lot of like...
22:58It's very fun.
23:00And the three of us now know each other so well.
23:03All of us.
23:04It's very easy to make this world together.
23:08And we all know so...
23:09I feel like we're...
23:10It's so pre-destined.
23:12Which is nice.
23:13And you know that you're entering a right frequency when...
23:16All the decisions feels very like...
23:19Of course it's this.
23:20It's this or nothing.
23:21Of course it's...
23:22It's very obvious without us knowing...
23:24And decision making is always that, isn't it?
23:25Yes.
23:26Of course it's this.
23:27Yeah, of course it's this.
23:28It's good.
23:29It's very fun.
23:30We're going to cook up something nice.
23:32On a very low budget.
23:34We were working the other day in the studio.
23:37Like putting ideas together of like a set.
23:41It was so crazy, wasn't it?
23:43It had to be after doing it.
23:44It was a bit like...
23:46This is the intensest that we'll ever be.
23:49Yes.
23:50I'm going to warn...
23:51I have to warn my community.
23:53It was quite fun.
23:54It's going to be very...
23:55We're going to move around, aren't we?
23:56It's also very...
23:57You know, like my shows are as well very...
24:01And your shows as well.
24:02Like it is very dynamic.
24:04And so is tomorrow.
24:06I'm really excited.
24:07I feel like it will be the first time I will be on a stage where I feel like I'm also in the audience.
24:16Yeah, this is a cool idea.
24:17I love this idea.
24:18Yeah, you're just going to be...
24:19Cool.
24:20Yeah.
24:21That's cool.
24:22It's going to be nice.
24:23Last time we spoke was the week you were playing Wem...
24:26Wembley?
24:27Wembley Arena.
24:28And you said that you were like entering a new mindset with arenas to kind of make them feel as intimate and as Aurora-y as possible.
24:34How would you describe your mindset for getting on stage with tomorrow in this kind of new ravey sphere?
24:40I feel like I can experience tomorrow like whoever likes tomorrow or experience like whoever out there who experienced tomorrow.
24:54I feel like I can experience it the same both from the inside because as we talked about this like it's something with this album that to both of us feels less like hard to listen to with people in the room.
25:09It's not so, we don't judge it so hard.
25:12It's very, very easy to kind of be like, yeah.
25:15It's very enjoyable.
25:16Yeah, it's enjoyable.
25:17It's very blue, like...
25:18You can have that feeling when you play music or you've worked on, you know, and you're like, ah, ah, you know, it's quite a...
25:24And you go like, oh, but it's, yeah, it's like a freeing thing.
25:27This I'm like, put it on.
25:28It's awesome.
25:29Take it off.
25:30And it feels very easy to kind of live with it because it's hard to live with music that you can't touch anymore.
25:35Yeah.
25:36Because you feel like, but with this it's quite easy, which is very nice.
25:40It's the same with the live performance.
25:41I think it's going to be like, that I'm going to feel like I'm in the crowd also and I'm going to just not always entertain, but sometimes, but also just play and entertain, which I do also, but like it's a new kind of thing.
25:58I'm going to learn some good things.
26:01And Tom, do you get to pull, have you found yourself pulling some new moves you've never pulled before?
26:05So many new moves.
26:06So many moves.
26:07There's a lot of plans.
26:08There's a lot of plans.
26:09I saw you do this.
26:10Oh, yeah.
26:11You're very good.
26:12And then this.
26:13I'm always trying to get me into like a breakdance moment in Eve of Destruction.
26:18I'm like...
26:19Yeah.
26:20I'm like, he's going to...
26:21Also, are you going to be playing like cams and Aurora stuff or just pure tomorrow?
26:26No.
26:27We're still working it out.
26:28The featuring time breakouts.
26:29Yeah.
26:30No, the 50 Cent featuring the Thomas Tank engine for 10 hours straight.
26:35And we're trying to see if that will make maybe the world better, better place.
26:40But we know it's going to be, you'll have to see.
26:43It's going to be very interesting.
26:44We're going to have to see as well, aren't we?
26:46I really want Tom to have a really heavy breakdowns moment where he just really goes at it.
26:53And everyone will say, oh, for some reason, you're surprisingly good.
26:57This is the problem.
26:58For some reason.
26:59For some reason.
27:00For some reason, he's really good, actually, for some reason.
27:03For no reason at all.
27:04He's surprisingly good at this.
27:06He's been rehearsing.
27:07Yeah.
27:08All these years.
27:09For this moment.
27:10Yes.
27:11And you mentioned, you referred to this being like an active holiday.
27:15Have you both been tinkering away at like solo stuff and chem stuff?
27:19Or is this just downtime this year in Texas?
27:22Full on with this, really.
27:23I mean, we're still, we got together last week and we're making new music.
27:28Yeah.
27:29Yeah.
27:30We can't stop.
27:31But I just love, it's so nice to get, to get a part of you out on this that's so refreshing.
27:37And it feels very, it's just, it's just very fun and I can't wait.
27:44I'm also making more music for me as we speak now.
27:48Well.
27:49But it's nice to, I like doing both.
27:51It's so, like you both get to be hot and cold and awake and asleep and hard and soft.
27:59And it's so nice.
28:00It feels, it makes me feel very complete as a human being.
28:04The multitudes.
28:05The multitudes.
28:06And it's not just one and done, this is like the start of a new thread.
28:10I don't think we'll stop making music while we're together.
28:13No, because it's fun.
28:15But you should never stop fun things.
28:17The only thing you should stop is...
28:20You can't have too much fun.
28:23Pedestrians who don't look for cars before they cross the road.
28:28Terrible people.
28:29It's the only thing you should stop physically.
28:31But not things that are fun.
28:33And crossing the road without looking is never fun.
28:36I do that.
28:37Yeah.
28:38But guys, come closer.
28:40Get it in your lives.
28:41That's not the cover.
28:42That's not the cover.
28:43We'll get more flushed.
28:44You'll see.
28:45You'll see.
28:46But Tom and Aurora tomorrow, thank you so much for your time.
28:48Thank you for your time.
28:49Thank you guys.
28:50Thank you for your time at home.
28:51See you.
28:54See you.
28:55See you.
28:56See you.
28:57Better see you.
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