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00:18Mave MacMahane
00:30Donald Trump is set to host his first official Board of Peace gathering in Washington today.
00:35Ahead of the meeting, which will take place at the U.S. Institute of Peace,
00:39Trump, who will chair the board, described it as potentially the most consequential international body in history.
00:46The initiative has already, though, sparked strong reactions.
00:49Critics warn it reflects an imperial agenda and could sideline the UN,
00:54but supporters argue it could serve as a practical mechanism focused on reconstruction efforts,
01:00particularly in Gaza.
01:01We can take a listen now to the White House Press Secretary, Caroline Leavis.
01:05I don't think that peace should be partisan or political or controversial.
01:10And of course, the administration wants all those who were invited to join the Board of Peace to join.
01:15And this president has a very bold and ambitious plan and vision to rebuild and reconstruct Gaza,
01:21which is well underway because of the Board of Peace.
01:24This is a legitimate organization.
01:27And your news correspondent, Maya de la Bomme, is following the story for us and joins me now in the
01:32studio.
01:32Good morning, Maya.
01:33Good morning, Maeve.
01:35So look, a big day for this Board of Peace.
01:37Brussels has sent the EU commissioner for the Mediterranean, Suiza.
01:41But so many ambassadors are furious about this.
01:43That's what you've been reporting.
01:44Tell us more.
01:45Yes, diplomats told us that there was a very tense meeting in Brussels yesterday with many countries,
01:51including and especially France and Spain, saying that they were not consulted.
01:56So they are sending Suiza in Washington, D.C.
01:59But, you know, member states should validate the mandate of Mrs. Suiza.
02:04And this is what they have been saying in this meeting where other countries also were furious because, you know,
02:11this is a foreign policy matter and you need a mandate validated by the 27 EU countries to be able
02:18to send a commissioner to Washington, D.C.
02:20and participate in a very controversial entity, which is the Board of Peace.
02:24And on top of that, I think that, you know, most diplomats say that Mrs. Suiza has a very political
02:31figure.
02:31This is a commissioner.
02:33Commissioners are political figures.
02:34And so why would you send a political figure to D.C.?
02:38I mean, the idea for many member states and many diplomats who we spoke to said,
02:43we need a lower level person.
02:45We need a civil servant.
02:46We need a diplomat, not a political figure.
02:49And on top of all of this, I think what we've gathered in our reporting is that diplomats are also
02:54furious
02:55because they think this participation of Mrs. Suiza sends the wrong signal
03:00because it means that, in a way, it means that Europe is validating the Board of Peace.
03:04And we know that the Board of Peace is a very controversial entity.
03:08Most member countries, and again, I'm talking about France, Spain, and I'm excluding Hungary and, you know,
03:14Bulgaria, which have said that they would participate in this Board of Peace.
03:18But the reasoning behind this is that it sends the wrong signal that Europe is validating the Board of Peace,
03:25which most countries aren't.
03:27Yes, so I'd say there's some awkward phone calls now between the Commission and the Capitals.
03:31But meanwhile, the Commission is standing by this decision.
03:34Yeah, the Commission is standing by this decision because they want to have a voice on this issue,
03:40on the issue of Gaza.
03:41You know that the European Union is the largest donor of aid in Palestine.
03:47It supports the Palestinian Authority.
03:50It has supported the Palestinian Authority for decades.
03:52And it thinks that, you know, it should participate because this is an issue.
03:57This is a reconstruction of Gaza.
03:59And Europe should be involved in this reconstruction of Gaza.
04:02So what we hear from the Commission is we stand by because we are not joining the Board of Peace,
04:09but we need to have a voice.
04:11Otherwise, we will be excluded.
04:13And, you know, our role in this region is crucial, as they tell us.
04:18Okay, Maida Le Boon, thank you so much for that live update.
04:21And, of course, to find out who else will be in Washington, D.C. for those talks,
04:25do check out yournews.com.
04:26But now, coming up, we'll be joined by Saloma Suresh-Bishvili,
04:30a Georgian politician who served as the President of Georgia from 2018 to 2024.
04:37She was the first female to take on this role.
04:40Located between Eastern Europe and Western Asia,
04:43Georgia was plunged into a political and constitutional crisis
04:46after disputed elections that triggered mass anti-government protests.
04:51For its part, the European Parliament refuses to recognise the current authorities
04:55of the Georgian Dream Party and continue to see Saloma Suresh-Bishvili
04:58as the legitimate President.
05:00So, good morning.
05:01Good morning.
05:01Welcome to Europe Today. Lovely to have you with us.
05:04Thank you.
05:04So, the big story for us, of course, here today is Trump's Board of Peace.
05:08If you were still in office as President, would you sign up?
05:11I think that I know that our neighbours have signed up
05:16and I think that it's very important that the region, the Caucasus,
05:19stays united and stays present in all the formats where it can be,
05:26and especially for Georgia, it's very important to be a subject
05:29of international relations and not only an object,
05:33which, unfortunately, we have become in the past period.
05:37And what should the EU do?
05:38Forgotten.
05:39You can see there's a big dispute now in the EU about who should go and who should not?
05:42Well, that's their own subject, which I'm not here to comment upon.
05:47But I think that for a small country like Georgia,
05:50which is faced with one enemy, Russia, that we know how it behaves,
05:55it's very important to be present in all the formats where it can have its voice heard.
06:01And you were at the Munich Security Conference.
06:04Marco Rubio was also there and he was describing the fact that the EU faces,
06:08or Europe faces, civilisation erasure.
06:11How do you interpret that?
06:13Well, I think that it has been, first of all, I was not at the Munich Conference this year,
06:19but I think that it is not true.
06:23It's not what happens in one day that suddenly Europe's, this civilisation is erased.
06:31And on the contrary, I think that what is happening is a wake-up of Europe,
06:36which is discovering that together with its huge economic power,
06:42its huge civilisation power, it also needs force, strength and military power.
06:51In part, that's also thanks to the wake-up call from the United States.
06:56So I think that all of that coming together is very good news for the Europeans and for the to
07:02-be Europeans.
07:03And you mentioned the threat of Russia earlier.
07:05We know that the talks were placed yesterday in Geneva for two days trying to end that war in Ukraine.
07:10Do you think they will ever come to an end?
07:13I think, of course, it will come to an end one day.
07:16What is important is how it comes to an end,
07:18because as neighbours of Russia, all the neighbours of Russia,
07:23know that Russia has been a constant invader,
07:26a constant aggressor and a constant imperialist power
07:30that doesn't know where its borders stop.
07:32So what is very important out of these peace negotiations
07:36is the, of course, sovereignty of Ukraine,
07:40territorial integrity of Ukraine,
07:42and also the fact that Russia recognises elsewhere
07:46that it cannot occupy the territory of its neighbours.
07:51That's true for Abkhazia and Ossetia.
07:53That's true for North Dnepstria, Transbistria.
07:57Is Putin interested in peace, do you think, at these talks?
07:59He's never interested in peace.
08:01He has to be brought to peace by constraint,
08:06and I think that in that sense, probably,
08:09the uncertainty that Putin is probably experiencing
08:13with Trump and Trump's actions
08:15is the best ally for forcing him down to peace agreement.
08:21Maybe it's the best time that we have to see Russia
08:26having to recognise that somebody is,
08:29both unpredictable and stronger than he is.
08:33And meanwhile, in Georgia, what about the path towards EU membership?
08:36It's on ice now.
08:37Talks are on hold.
08:37Well, it's a very thick ice at this time
08:40because everything that is happening within Georgia today
08:45is distancing us from the European past,
08:49from the European reforms.
08:51We have a capture of the state by Russia.
08:54We have a Russian model, in fact,
08:55being put into place at a very rapid pace,
08:59and that's costless for Russia,
09:02much more costless than, of course,
09:05the military intervention in Ukraine.
09:07With us, it's taking over institutions,
09:11democratic old principles,
09:14but there is a civil society,
09:17unlike in Russia or unlike in Belarus,
09:20a civil society that is fighting,
09:23that is resilient.
09:24And what more can you do here?
09:26What more can you do here?
09:28What more can I do?
09:29Be heard here, but I'm in Georgia.
09:31I'm not here.
09:32I'm going out just to have the voice
09:35of the Georgian people heard,
09:37more attention to Georgia,
09:39which is not easy at a time
09:41when there are so important
09:43and many crises around us.
09:45But it's still very important
09:47that we have the moral support
09:49because the people that are fighting
09:51are fighting for a European democratic Georgia.
09:54And we think that it's important
09:56not only for Georgians,
09:58but it's important for the future
10:00of a strong Europe,
10:02very present in the Caucasus
10:05and also American partners.
10:07Okay.
10:07Salome, Serge Becholi,
10:09thank you so much for being our guest
10:10this morning here on Europe Today.
10:12But now moving on,
10:13speaking on Europe Today just yesterday,
10:15the US ambassador to the European Union,
10:17Andrew Puzder,
10:18said that Europe has a major problem
10:19with mass migration.
10:21This after Marco Rubio warned
10:23that Europe faces civilization erasure.
10:25Our Jacobianos takes a look at the data.
10:30You might be wondering,
10:32is the EU experiencing mass migration?
10:35And you see,
10:35there isn't a simple yes or no answer
10:38because the numbers are actually falling.
10:41Last year, Frontex saw the EU border
10:43and Coast Guard agency
10:45reported over 25% drop
10:47in irregular crossings
10:49to around 180,000.
10:52And this is less than a half
10:54the total recorded in 2023.
10:56But public perception tells
10:58a completely different story.
11:00And for clarity,
11:01let's narrow it down strictly
11:03to irregular migration,
11:04so people crossing EU borders
11:06without official permission.
11:09Because the feeling of the crisis
11:11is so strong,
11:12mainstream politicians
11:13are adapting policies
11:15that used to be considered taboo.
11:17And take Denmark as an example,
11:19led by a center-left government.
11:22They are pushing a zero-refugee policy
11:24and advocating for asylum processing
11:26outside of Europe.
11:28And as this Denmark model spreads,
11:30the European Commission
11:31and major players like Germany
11:33are now officially backing the idea
11:35of return hubs in third countries.
11:38But this new approach
11:39is tearing the EU apart.
11:41And while the European Parliament
11:43just voted to allow deportations
11:45to unrelated third countries,
11:47Spain is going the opposite way.
11:49Madrid recently announced
11:51it will grant legal status
11:52to half a million
11:53undocumented migrants.
11:55And that raised
11:56strong reservations in Brussels.
11:58Because papers in Spain
11:59might mean free travel
12:01across the Schengen zone,
12:02directly threatening
12:03the EU's strict new crackdown
12:05on irregular migration.
12:07Meanwhile,
12:08over 4 million Ukrainian war refugees
12:10live in the EU legally.
12:12Fleeing Russia's invasion,
12:14they did not come by choice.
12:16And, what's important,
12:17they did receive official EU protection.
12:19But when you walk down the street,
12:21perception doesn't care
12:23about visas or paperwork.
12:24And that is why this clash
12:26is no longer about policies
12:28and numbers.
12:29Or even the migrants themselves.
12:36Jacob Giannis there.
12:37Well, moving on,
12:38Real Madrid's 1-0 victory
12:40over Benfica
12:41in the UEFA Champions League
12:42in Portugal
12:43has been overshadowed this week
12:45by fresh allegations
12:46of racist abuse.
12:47The 25-year-old Brazilian
12:49professional footballer,
12:50Vinicius Jr.,
12:51was allegedly verbally abused,
12:53prompting the referee
12:54to hold up the match
12:55and trigger an anti-racism protocol.
12:57For more on the impact of this,
12:59we can now cross over to Lisbon,
13:01where Euronews' correspondent,
13:02Joao Azevedo,
13:03is standing by for us,
13:05outside the very football stadium
13:06where the incident occurred.
13:08Good morning, Joao.
13:10Just tell us what happened
13:11and what's next.
13:15Yeah, good morning, Maeve.
13:17Good morning to you
13:17and the team over there
13:18in Brussels.
13:19It did happen
13:20at the stadium
13:21right behind me,
13:22as you said.
13:24You know,
13:24Vinicius Jr.,
13:25he had just scored the goal.
13:27It was a monumental goal.
13:29Curled in a shot
13:30into the top corner.
13:33But that masterpiece
13:35triggered some ugly scenes
13:37over there on the pitch.
13:39Vinicius Jr.,
13:41he also had a somehow
13:42provocative celebration.
13:44But still,
13:45he can celebrate as he wants.
13:47And actually,
13:49that celebration,
13:50it did put off the fans
13:54in the stands.
13:55And also,
13:56some Benfica players
13:57on the pitch,
13:58especially Prestiani,
14:01who confronted
14:02Vinicius Jr.
14:03He actually
14:05pulled his shirt
14:07up over his mouth.
14:10And he did tell him something.
14:12Actually,
14:13Vinicius Jr.
14:14spotted it to the referee.
14:16He reported it
14:16to the referee,
14:17saying that he had been
14:18racially abused.
14:20Madrid's French striker,
14:22Kylian Mbappé,
14:23confirming that version
14:24at the end of the match,
14:26telling reporters
14:27in the mix zone
14:28that he heard
14:30Prestiani
14:31called Vinicius Jr.
14:34a monkey
14:35five times.
14:36Prestiani denied
14:38those allegations
14:39with Benfica,
14:42as expected,
14:42siding
14:43with their
14:44player.
14:46And I'm going to quote
14:47a part of the statement
14:49the club
14:49put out.
14:50I think we can put it up
14:51on the screen now.
14:53Benfica reiterates
14:54that he fully supports
14:55and believes
14:57in the version
14:57presented by the player,
14:59Gianluca Prestiani.
15:01The club
15:01now regrets
15:03the defamation campaign
15:04to which the player
15:05has been
15:07subjected.
15:08However,
15:09some football
15:11legends,
15:12including Thierry Henry,
15:14also
15:14Micka
15:15Richard,
15:16they did
15:17hit out
15:18at Prestiani's
15:20behavior.
15:21and there was also
15:22some sharp
15:23criticism
15:24coming from
15:25within
15:26Benfica's circle.
15:27Take Luizão,
15:28for example,
15:28a former
15:29captain
15:30of the club.
15:31It's someone
15:32who made
15:32over 500
15:34appearances
15:34for the club.
15:36He didn't pull
15:37any punches.
15:37He wrote
15:38on social media.
15:40I think we can
15:41also see
15:43that statement.
15:44This is what
15:44he had to say.
15:45I love Benfica.
15:46It's my second
15:48skin.
15:48This message
15:49makes it worse.
15:50he's obviously
15:50referring
15:51to Benfica's
15:52statement,
15:53saying that
15:53that message
15:54makes it worse
15:54because it's
15:55a lie.
15:56It was
15:57a racist
15:57act,
15:58yes,
15:59and I am
16:00ashamed
16:01of that.
16:01So pretty
16:02strong words
16:03there
16:03from
16:04Luizão.
16:06Now UEFA
16:07has appointed
16:08an ethics
16:09and disciplinary
16:10agent who
16:11will be charged
16:12with
16:12investigating
16:14the incident.
16:15Of course,
16:17a judicial
16:18battle
16:19is now
16:19going
16:20to start.
16:21You have
16:22Madrid players
16:23saying that
16:24if
16:24Prestiani
16:25was not
16:27going to say
16:27anything wrong,
16:28then why
16:29did he feel
16:29the need
16:30to cover
16:31his mouth?
16:32But on the
16:32other hand,
16:33Benfica
16:33saying that
16:35it's not
16:35possible for
16:36any Madrid
16:36players really
16:38to say that
16:38they heard
16:39any racial
16:40slur coming
16:40from Prestiani
16:41because there
16:42was a rowdy
16:42atmosphere
16:43in the stadium
16:44with a lot
16:45of noise
16:45and the
16:47distance
16:47between
16:48the players
16:50that just
16:50makes it
16:51impossible
16:51for any
16:53player to
16:54hear any
16:54racial slur
16:55from the
16:57opponent.
16:58So now,
16:58as I said,
16:59a judicial
17:00battle
17:01will be
17:02happening
17:03and we
17:04do know
17:05that,
17:06of course,
17:07if
17:09Prestiani
17:09is found
17:10guilty of
17:11racial abuse,
17:12he lands
17:14in hot
17:14water.
17:15Of course,
17:16he risks
17:17a pretty
17:18heavy
17:18sanction,
17:19potentially
17:20a 10-match
17:21ban.
17:23Andro,
17:23just tell us,
17:24is this an
17:24isolated case
17:25and what does
17:26it say about
17:26racism in
17:27football?
17:30Yeah,
17:31it's not an
17:32isolated case.
17:33actually,
17:34and especially
17:34as for
17:36Vinicius.
17:36Vinicius Jr.
17:37is certainly
17:37not a
17:39stranger
17:39in this
17:41kind of
17:41episodes.
17:43For example,
17:44since
17:452022,
17:47he's filed
17:4718 legal
17:49complaints
17:50for
17:51alleged
17:52racist
17:53abuse.
17:55So,
17:55this is a
17:56player
17:56who's been
17:57involved in
17:58this kind
17:59of incidents
18:00quite often.
18:02The most
18:02high-profile
18:03one may be
18:04dating back
18:05to May
18:062023.
18:08It happened
18:09at
18:09Mestadia
18:10Stadium in
18:11Valencia
18:12when
18:13Vinicius Jr.
18:14confronted
18:15some spectators
18:16in the stands.
18:18And ultimately,
18:19three Valencia fans
18:21were sentenced
18:22to eight months
18:24in prison.
18:25and they also
18:26got banned
18:26from stadiums
18:28for two years.
18:31They even
18:31apologized
18:32to
18:33Vinicius Jr.
18:35So,
18:36that was the
18:36very first
18:37conviction
18:37for hate
18:38crimes
18:39in Spain
18:40and obviously
18:41a big win
18:41for
18:42Vinicius Jr.
18:43You know,
18:45some
18:45Valadolid fans,
18:46five Valadolid fans
18:47also got
18:49sentenced
18:50to
18:50some time
18:51in jail
18:53following
18:53some racist
18:55abuse
18:55directed
18:56at
18:57Vinicius Jr.
18:58And this
18:58recently,
18:59January 2026,
19:01like some weeks
19:01ago,
19:02a group of
19:03Albacete
19:04fans,
19:05they were
19:06heard
19:07outside of
19:07the stadium
19:08ahead of
19:08a Copa del Rey
19:09match against
19:10Real Madrid
19:11singing racist
19:12chants
19:13towards
19:14Vinicius Jr.
19:15Now,
19:16that said,
19:17UEFA does not
19:17have a really
19:18strong track record
19:19when it comes
19:20to punishing
19:21racism.
19:23There was
19:24a 2021
19:25Europa League
19:26match
19:28with
19:29Slavia,
19:31Prague's
19:31center back
19:32found guilty
19:34of
19:35racially
19:36abusing
19:36Glasgow
19:37Rangers
19:38mid-fielder,
19:39but other
19:39than that,
19:40it's been
19:41a very
19:41light
19:41fun here
19:42and then,
19:42so we'll
19:43see how
19:43things shake
19:43out.
19:44Joao Azevedo,
19:44thank you so
19:45much for
19:45that very
19:46comprehensive
19:46live update
19:47there from
19:48Lisbon,
19:48and thank you
19:49so much
19:49for watching.
19:50That does
19:51bring this
19:51edition of
19:52Europe Today
19:53to an end.
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