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00:00Again, a very warm welcome to all of you present here and all our viewers watching at home.
00:04This is the AI Summit and with an organization like India Today, Aaj Tak Group, we've always
00:10decided that in every new world evolving feature or aspect, we have to be the leaders and so
00:17is India, thinking that we have to go straight forward, straight ahead in AI.
00:23Big dreams and the AI dream that we are going to talk about.
00:26Interestingly, I want all of you to clap for this is the second Indian that we have on
00:32stage.
00:33Isn't this amazing?
00:36Like in our AI Summit, we have these important companies.
00:40Your company, Rubrik, is based in America and he's the founder and CEO of Rubrik and he's
00:47an Indian.
00:47And interestingly, he's from Madhepura, Bihar.
00:51Real Bihar, not Paschum Bihar.
00:54Wow, interesting.
00:55A huge round of applause for this as well.
00:57Because from these little towns of India, people are emerging as the leaders in AI and
01:03your company, Bipul Sinha, essentially works on data security and cyber security and AI
01:09company.
01:10From what I have gathered about your organization, I want to begin from there.
01:14How important is it that we have a disciplined execution of everything that we are talking
01:21about today in the field of AI?
01:22How do you see that happening?
01:24Anjana, first of all, very excited to be here.
01:28Look, AI is 100 times more opportunities and 100 times more risk because models hallucinate
01:36and also they are prone to compromise.
01:38And if they are compromised, they can potentially do 10 times more damage in one tenth of the
01:45time because they can write code, reimburse your customers and run your business processes.
01:51And somebody sitting in North Korea can control your whole business.
01:54So, every business has to think about how do they deploy AI with confidence and trust.
02:02Yeah.
02:03But the way you've mentioned North Korea, thanks for drilling that in.
02:08This is the scare factor.
02:09You keep saying that 100x opportunity, 100x risk, but people are scared of the risk.
02:15Like, I'll tell you from my example.
02:18When my AI avatar was being made for Aajtak and Kalipuri, our vice chairperson, decided
02:23that we should do this, I was a little scared, to be honest.
02:27Because I was scared that, I mean, she's going to be doing anchoring on my behalf, what will
02:31happen to me?
02:32But then eventually she gave, she lured me by saying that imagine you can go on a vacation
02:37and she's going to anchor for you.
02:40You can be with your daughter at Oxford and she's going to anchor for you.
02:43And then I said, yes, ma'am.
02:46So, that's great.
02:48But then from here, it has seeped into our daily lives.
02:52And closing the eyes will not push AI away.
02:55It's here.
02:56How do we build this bond with it?
02:58How do we make them the force multiplier for my performance?
03:05For successful AI, it is very important to have the right guardrails.
03:11So, guardrail means that what AI can do and cannot do.
03:15For example, if there is a Bipulsina AI that is allowed to send email, I don't want that
03:21AI to send email to everybody in my company on every topic.
03:24So, even if they have permission, there has to be a guardrail.
03:28And that guardrail has to be defined and enforced real time.
03:33And that is the challenge of AI.
03:35And this is what rubric is focused on.
03:37What we are telling our customers is deploy AI with confidence.
03:41Because if you look at countries such as India, AI has tremendous promise to deliver healthcare,
03:47education to far corners of India.
03:50But if people don't have digital trust on what they are interacting with, this whole exercise
03:55is moot.
03:56Can AI replace you?
03:58AI cannot replace me because I live in the future and AI lives in the past.
04:04Okay.
04:05So, here is the basic theme.
04:08The data is the engine for AI.
04:12And you work on data security.
04:14How does that whole process go?
04:16And how important is this?
04:18Data is the key ingredient of AI.
04:21If there is no data or if you don't have confidence in your data, then garbage in, garbage out.
04:28And the whole AI stack is of no use.
04:30So, what we are saying is that we will make the right data available to the right user on the
04:36right platform at the right time to really deploy AI.
04:40And if you think about it, making the data available is the key factor.
04:46And so, what we are saying to our customers are that deploy AI, take your data, make your model completely
04:54optimized to your own environment so that models don't hallucinate and you have high trust and confidence.
05:01Models don't hallucinate.
05:03I want to talk of the doomsday scenario that crosses a lot of our minds.
05:07What if there is a massive cyber attack?
05:12Like, there is an attack and the wrong people take control of it.
05:18What happens then to humankind?
05:21See, cyber attacks are inevitable just like death and taxes.
05:26And for far too long, we have been focused on prevention and detection and not thinking about how do we
05:33come back up after an attack.
05:34So, the whole thesis of us starting rubric was that, that how do we ensure that you can successfully recover
05:43and keep your services up and running?
05:46Because if you are running a hospital, you can't wait three weeks for cyber recovery to happen.
05:51Bring the hospitals back up because you have to deliver health care to all the patients.
05:55So, every business, every government organization has to be prepared with resiliency.
06:02And that resiliency means, do you understand the risk and do you have the ability to recover?
06:08We have with us a minister from Canada.
06:11I think he is out of the room right now.
06:14Yeah, yeah.
06:14But interestingly, you know, I showed him my AI avatar and he was also, he said, I want someone to
06:21replace me now.
06:21Where is my AI avatar?
06:23I want to sign up for this now.
06:24I got to have my vacation in my hometown and I got to do this.
06:27But coming back to that point, people have everything on their smartphones, right?
06:33From banking to everything.
06:36How does that make them vulnerable to any kind of, you know, attack as you call it?
06:42And because you are a data security company, cyber security organization, how does one prepare for that?
06:48How does, how vulnerable does it make us in terms of money, everything?
06:54Look, if you look at the last like 10, 15 years, the digital intensity of our lives have increased.
07:03Because we get up in the morning and look at the maps.
07:06That's how we drive to work.
07:08We interact with each other over emails, not calling and talking to people all the time.
07:13So as the digital intensity has increased, so has the cyber risk.
07:17And so everyone has to now think, am I really prepared?
07:21I'm doing the basic hygiene.
07:23Do I have multi-factor authentication?
07:25Do I trust this person that I'm giving information to?
07:28So that's the basics.
07:30And then you need to have the ability to have been able to recover from a bad incidence.
07:37And so everybody has to think about that.
07:39What exactly do you mean when you say we have to be, like we had other guests also who were
07:44talking about becoming AI aware?
07:47What exactly is this AI aware business?
07:51I mean, downloading some apps, navigating through it, or how does one go about it?
07:56Like so many students sitting here, how can one become AI aware?
08:01AI is all about, can we do knowledge work automatically without human intervention?
08:08And so if you think about when I'm traveling to India, my assistant has to find a hotel, airplane, local
08:17transportation.
08:17These are knowledge work.
08:19So if you fast forward with AI deployment, all of it, she's not trying to reinvent the future.
08:25She's just taking the available information and compute what is the best way to travel.
08:30That AI can do.
08:31That is the knowledge work.
08:32So all of us have to think what is our repetitive task and can AI do that repetitive task and
08:39make local decisions without our intervention.
08:43But AI can only work on the past.
08:45And that's why I'm saying that us humans have to work on intuition, where we connect new dots, create new
08:52things.
08:53So all the jobs, all the opportunities around connecting new dots is going to be human work.
08:59And everything which is coded knowledge and data on which you can run the work will be AI.
09:09You've traveled from Madhya Pura to California, built this company of yours.
09:14And what is your basic background?
09:17I'm an engineer turned venture capitalist turned entrepreneur.
09:21Wow, that's quite a journey.
09:23Very interesting.
09:24But I get messages from U.S., from my relatives who tell me that you've just been talking about this
09:29diabetes medicine and is it really good?
09:32And I say, I have not done any such thing.
09:35I'm coming to the issue of deep fakes.
09:38How does one deal with that?
09:40I can't tell my own avatar's voiceover, like her voice from mine.
09:44How does one deal with deep fake?
09:47Look, AI-based attacks have gone beyond human comprehension.
09:52And we need to go back in time and think, how did we solve some of these problems?
09:57If you go back to the late 90s, early 2000s, nobody was ready to swipe the credit card on internet
10:04because everyone was worried about, is this a real website or is it a fake website?
10:09And then we invented VeriSign that certified individual websites.
10:15So you will see innovations around deep fake where you will have a certified AI persona interacting on digital media.
10:25Okay. And that certification is important for individuals?
10:30Absolutely. Because otherwise, how will I know that I'm interacting with Anjana digitally versus somebody impersonating Anjana from a remote
10:37country?
10:38Interestingly, I was at the summit yesterday and there were people who were coming up and asking me, are you
10:42Anjana or the AI Anjana?
10:45But how does India go ahead?
10:48See, it's important that we are not just a market for AI, because this is the challenge we face in
10:55most fields.
10:56India is seen as the biggest bazaar.
10:58But how do we become the drivers of this?
11:01How do you think?
11:03What are the three or four or five steps that you would suggest for this?
11:06Look, we are in the very early days of the AI-driven abundance or the new industrial revolution, as I
11:16like to call it,
11:17because now instead of factories producing goods, we have factories producing intelligence.
11:24But India's opportunity is to how to harness that intelligence and create applied things like applications to deliver products and
11:34services to 1.4 billion population in India.
11:38This is a tremendous opportunity.
11:39If I look at my native state, Bihar, you have a large population that requires health care, education, understanding, re
11:50-skilling,
11:51and AI could accelerate that journey of delivering health care, delivering education, retraining,
11:58enabling people to leapfrog into the AI economy, even when they didn't take advantage of the digital economy,
12:05because now natural language is the way to interact with computer.
12:10So lingua franca has gone from learning to program versus speaking into the computer.
12:16So the tremendous opportunity for Indian entrepreneurs, but what is going to be most important is,
12:22do they have a unique perspective on delivering such an application, not just mimic, as Hemant said,
12:29what is happening other places around the world?
12:32What is a unique Indian...
12:33Need-based, unique innovation.
12:35Unique innovation delivered to your unique audience, because Indian market is massive.
12:42Indian market is massive.
12:44The other thing that I was trying to come to is, all the youth sitting here,
12:48the first question when you talk to them about AI is about losing their jobs.
12:53And I let you pass through that question where I said, will AI one day replace Bipul Sanam?
12:59But it's a real fear.
13:01It's a real fear that a lot of children face.
13:03They look for fields in which AI will probably not be able to replace them.
13:08And that will be more human intensive.
13:11Do you see it happening like that?
13:14Look...
13:15Jobs.
13:15If you look at the history of technology development, we went from agrarian economy, to industrial economy, to knowledge economy,
13:25and now we are transitioning into this new economy, I call it intuition economy.
13:31And throughout these transitions, the productivity gains were massive.
13:35And it created new jobs.
13:38Just think about it, Anjana.
13:4015, 20 years ago, if I told you that somebody in rubric is a performance digital marketing expert,
13:48you would have told me that these are word salad.
13:50I don't even understand what you are talking about.
13:52What did you say?
13:54Performance...
13:54Digital marketing expert.
13:58So people who do digital marketing on Google...
14:01The kids are going to ask me, where do we learn this?
14:04No, but what I'm saying is that such a thing was unknown 20 years ago.
14:09So now the performance marketing in the digital realm is a real profession and thousands of people do that job.
14:16So similarly, in the world of AI, you will have new jobs being created that we can't even envision.
14:22Then universities need to get up for this.
14:25100 percent.
14:26Is that happening?
14:27I don't see that happening.
14:29Look, most of the universities are still living in the industrial era, let alone the knowledge era.
14:35But at the end of the day, if you look at the youths of India and the massive opportunity that
14:43we have in India,
14:44is how do they take, how do they learn AI?
14:49And the beauty of AI is nobody knows anything.
14:52As in, what will happen in the future is everybody's guess.
14:56So if you have a unique intuition, unique idea, unique way to deliver product and services,
15:01leveraging the factories of intelligence, that's where the opportunities are.
15:07Three important fields for India.
15:09One, agriculture, one, health, and one, education.
15:13I think these are the three focus areas for our country and our government that have always been,
15:18and we are still working on it.
15:20Any interesting AI innovations that you've come across in these,
15:24or you feel has a lot of scope or a lot of future, especially in a country like India?
15:29I mean, if you just look at healthcare, Vinod Khosla always says that 70-80% of a job of
15:36a primary healthcare provider
15:37can be done by AI, because they are not telling you anything that has not been invented yet.
15:44They are telling you everything that is a knowledge-based.
15:47So if you think about, can we deliver AI-based doctors to the far corners of our country?
15:54But then what happens to the primary health workers and the doctors?
15:57They will look at things that are new to them, that are not repetitive,
16:01because they would also find that more interesting.
16:05Okay.
16:06What about agriculture?
16:07Because I was there at the summit yesterday, and they had these little machines,
16:12and where the soil was telling them if there was too much water, less water,
16:16like we talked before,
16:18because the natural factors actually decide the productivity of a crop.
16:23So that was also interesting.
16:24I mean, look, if you look at the whole supply chain of agriculture,
16:28from soil to grains to the markets and local mundis and prices in local markets,
16:37AI can help at every step of the way.
16:40Because AI is all about, can we bring all the knowledge of the world in a singular place?
16:47And that knowledge is now at the fingertips of everyone.
16:51The power of AI is a kid growing up in Palo Alto, California versus growing up in Patna, Bihar.
16:59They have exact same knowledge of everything that has happened so far in the world.
17:05Isn't that tremendous?
17:34Yeah, it is.
17:54So how do you deliver trust?
17:57How do you tell people that the doctor who is saying on the phone is a real doctor,
18:04it is a fake doctor, it is not a fake doctor.
18:06How do you get to know?
18:07That is the technology that people have to develop.
18:13That is the technology that people have to develop.
18:37Now, he is an author, he is a writer, he is a lyricist, he is a lyricist.
18:42We have said that if I give a prompt to AI to give you a share in Prasoon Joshi's style,
18:49then he will give you a share of it, but then who will you give it to his credit?
18:54Prasoon Joshi will give it to his AI app or who has given the prompt to give it?
19:00How do you get to the certification from the doctor?
19:04Certification will be on the blockchain.
19:07Because if you put on the blockchain,
19:10if you put on the blockchain,
19:13and if you have a new thing,
19:15if you verify that,
19:17and there is a block available to everyone in the world,
19:21then you can say that this is new,
19:23or if you have to say that,
19:26and if you verify that,
19:29then you can deliver it confidently.
19:33So,
19:35in the internet,
19:36there is a blockchain,
19:38currency,
19:39and the delivery model,
19:42there is a whole thing.
19:43And here is entrepreneurship,
19:44and here is how people think about it,
19:46how do we use these things in a unique way,
19:51that uniquely solves the problem?
19:52Look,
19:54for money,
19:57it is very important that you have to earn something new,
20:00because the work that is happening,
20:01that you will repeat,
20:03then you will never earn money.
20:05So,
20:05you will have to think about new ways,
20:07that the opportunity is where it is,
20:09and the new ways to think about it,
20:12that it is the risk,
20:13that it is the reward.
20:14So,
20:16you will have to think about it,
20:17that the world,
20:18which is known,
20:20that it is the AI,
20:21that it is the unknown world.
20:23you will have to go to the unknown world,
20:24and you will have to prove that,
20:26that the new thesis is right,
20:29and the world will believe it.
20:31And,
20:32as much available resources,
20:34you will have to connect it,
20:36and you will have to show new ways,
20:38and the new ways to deliver products and services.
20:40So,
20:42you will have to go to California.
20:44My question is,
20:46they say that data is the new oil.
20:50So,
20:51why do you do not do anything in India?
20:53Do you have any plans in India?
20:55We are doing anything in India.
20:57In India,
21:00in India,
21:01in India,
21:01in our office,
21:02in Bangalore,
21:03in Bangalore,
21:03and
21:04we are doing that,
21:06instead of India,
21:08just being a supporting center of rubric,
21:12we are developing in India for the world.
21:16So,
21:17for example,
21:18our cloud products,
21:19our security products are completely developed in India,
21:23and our engineers in India are going around the world,
21:25talking to customers and selling those products.
21:28Because,
21:29I had this idea,
21:31that for both in America as well as in India,
21:33let the thousand flowers bloom.
21:35And if,
21:36we hire talented engineers,
21:38who see how to build products,
21:40and how to sell products,
21:42how to go interact with the customers,
21:44then they will have confidence to go start their own businesses.
21:46And I want everybody to think,
21:49if,
21:50Bipul kar sakta hai,
21:51to why not me?
21:53And that's what we want to enable youngster to think.
22:01You have to be very futuristic if you want to take,
22:08start things like this.
22:09So,
22:10what were the five factors that convinced you?
22:15There are five factors,
22:16which I should convince you,
22:18that I should do this.
22:19Data security,
22:20cyber security,
22:21future,
22:21AI's relevance,
22:22you were looking at that time,
22:24or not?
22:25What do you think?
22:28When you want to start a company,
22:30if you think,
22:31and you think,
22:33you can't think,
22:36what will happen,
22:37and what will happen,
22:38and what will happen.
22:38You don't think that,
22:41whatever you see,
22:42without prejudice,
22:44without judgment,
22:45there is a real opportunity.
22:47And if there is an opportunity,
22:49you jump in,
22:50with two hands and two feet,
22:52and then figure out,
22:54while you are in the water,
22:55that can you swim or sink.
22:58So,
22:58you can't think,
23:00how many implications will happen,
23:01and what will happen.
23:03You should know one angle,
23:05and then you have to go very,
23:07very hard at figuring out.
23:09Because business building,
23:11is like starting a religion,
23:14or learning curve.
23:16Because you have to find believers,
23:17and you have to have conviction in yourself,
23:20to be able to convince people.
23:22Because the whole world could be a customer,
23:23but you need to find early believers,
23:25who will take your message and propagate it.
23:27I think that's the best way,
23:29in which this can be explained.
23:31Because it's nothing,
23:32less than starting a new religion.
23:34If you want so many believers,
23:36if you want so many people,
23:37to actually follow you,
23:39it's like a new tradition,
23:40where you need people,
23:41to build trust.
23:42Exactly.
23:43That's exactly.
23:43So,
23:43you need to build trust.
23:44Now,
23:45the end of your life,
23:46if you give two,
23:47three new ideas,
23:49or you will be sitting there,
23:50in the morning,
23:51and you will listen to your college,
23:52and you will listen to your digital future.
23:54So,
23:55the success of the Bipol Sinha,
23:56which is the success of the mantra,
23:57the success of the mantra,
23:59in which three things you will find,
24:01that you will find,
24:02so you will open the path.
24:04So,
24:05in three things,
24:06number one is,
24:07that you must always think,
24:10Nobody knows anything. Particularly when it comes to the future. Because if the future
24:16is known, the stock market doesn't exist. So, your own thinking and intuition is as
24:23much as someone who has a 20-50 years experience or a repeat entrepreneur is. Because both
24:30people are thinking about the future and all the knowledge is the same. So, the first
24:35thing is that nobody knows anything. Second, always take counter-consensus bet. So,
24:44if everyone is going to the other side, then go to the other side. Because if everyone
24:49is going to the other side, then go to the other side. So, if everyone is going to the other
24:59side,
25:01then go to the other side. So, that's the number two. And number three is that when you
25:04both are doing this, it becomes a lot of upheaval mentally. Sometimes you feel like you are
25:09winning, sometimes you feel like you are winning. So, you should have this trust that everything
25:14will be fine. So, the third thing is that you should always have confidence that all will
25:18be well. While you are trying to think nobody knows anything, take counter-consensus bet and
25:27have confidence that all will be well. Wow, we'll remember that when we make big decisions in life
25:32and especially the kids and young generation that's listening to you. Vipul Sinha, for coming
25:37here and talking to us and being a part of the AI Summit, we thank you. Thank you so much,
25:41sir.
25:41Appreciate the opportunity.
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