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Did Alex Bregman not want to be in Boston??
Sam Kennedy comments spark debate- What was made better by Kennedy's comments? Did Bregman leave because of money, or did he not want to be in Boston? What do you think?
Sam Kennedy comments spark debate- What was made better by Kennedy's comments? Did Bregman leave because of money, or did he not want to be in Boston? What do you think?
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00:00But I give Kennedy credit for this.
00:02Like, he does answer questions in tough times.
00:04Like, he is there when they traded Devers.
00:06He was on Nesson.
00:07He was on this show.
00:08He does not hide from it in ways that other teams in this town do.
00:12Yeah.
00:14By the way, you're not alone, Wiggy.
00:16Like, clapback33 in the Twitch chat right now says,
00:19who cares if the owner speaks?
00:21So a lot of people probably don't care.
00:24I just think you might get a view into what is going on
00:28in their head, business-wise, if they share it with you.
00:34I think you get the view when you know how they conduct business
00:37on their said business, whether, you know, mainly it's financial.
00:41And that's why I said, when we talk about Alex Bregman,
00:45I think that the front office, and, you know,
00:49a pot and large ownership goes,
00:51we don't think this guy's worth $175 million.
00:56In my opinion, I don't – I think the trade –
00:59the no trade clause means nothing.
01:02I think they look at it and go, we don't think you're worth $175.
01:06And Bregman goes, that's what I want.
01:08That's what I'm worth.
01:09And they say, all right, go find it somewhere else.
01:11Okay, but why doesn't Sam Kennedy just tell you that?
01:13Like, why doesn't he say Alex Bregman wanted more money
01:17than we thought we wanted to pay him?
01:20And I think most fans would, you know, begrudgingly admit that.
01:26Like, I am guilty of – I've said this a million times –
01:30guilty of buying into the fact that he was an additional voice
01:36in the clubhouse.
01:38You know, Jason Veritek was on this show talking about how he's the one
01:43who fixed Roman Anthony's swing.
01:45And so I, you know, I'm sentimental.
01:48I get sentimental about that kind of player.
01:52But just, like, tell the fans this is why we didn't think he was worth the money.
01:58We only got him for half a season or three-quarters of a season last season,
02:02and we just didn't think it was worth it.
02:03But it's also not begrudgingly.
02:05If you look at any type of social media platform,
02:07and I'm sure the Red Sox have plenty of people that are giving you, you know,
02:10real-time fan feedback to Sam Kennedy, John Henry, Tom Warner, whoever.
02:15And they're saying – a lot of people are saying that we wouldn't pay him either.
02:18So to lie about it doesn't really make sense to me.
02:21I think that it all started back in June when they were – of 2025,
02:25when he and Scott Boris were saying that they were open to talking about
02:29a contract extension with the Red Sox back then,
02:33and the Red Sox basically wanted nothing to do with it.
02:35That was before any type of injury or anything else.
02:37Well, the Red Sox said, here's what we think of you, $120 million.
02:42Because you got the player option to opt in and pick up that $41 million,
02:47and then next year you can get that extra – we think of you as $121 million.
02:52And, Greg, I think other than Bill Belichick,
02:55who says we don't want this guy because we don't think he's worth it?
02:58You know what I mean?
02:59I just think, like, maybe that's front offices and people in that, GMs.
03:03They don't do that.
03:03Like, who really does that other than Bill where you know it's like,
03:07well, we don't think he's worth that.
03:10Go find it somewhere else.
03:11Well, they might not say it in that way.
03:13Like, that's naive of me.
03:14But they certainly don't need to try to spin it on the player.
03:19No, that I agree with.
03:20And to say that Alex Bregman would be here if he wanted to be, it's not – like, that's simplifying
03:26it.
03:27It's not necessary.
03:28And you're 100% right because if you're another MLB player and you're looking at the Red Sox as a
03:32potential landing spot for you
03:33and you see how they've handled Devers' situation, Mookie Betts' situation, Alex Bregman's situation,
03:40the way they build these players up and then absolutely tear them down as soon as they're out the door,
03:45like, who would really want to work with a franchise like that, a front office like that?
03:49But it becomes disingenuous when they're talking about these players that are, like, supposed to be, you know,
03:59the savior coming to Boston and then immediately turn their back on them.
04:02I mean, that's the good part of the world of sports.
04:05We love you.
04:06We love you.
04:06We get you.
04:06And then it's like, oh, we love you.
04:08And then you leave.
04:08And it's like, well, you know, we wanted them.
04:11But, you know, that's what they do in the world of sports.
04:15It's – when you look at it and it's right there for you to see.
04:18And I agree with you.
04:19I don't – I wish they'd be more out in the open, but it's hard to get teams.
04:23You look at – they didn't want to give them $175,000.
04:26We'll give you $120,000, but we're not going to give you $55 million or more.
04:30What was made better because of what Sam Kennedy said at the picnic table over the weekend?
04:35No, nothing.
04:36I think – yeah, I think –
04:36So he offended his fans because he was apparently disingenuous at best, lying at worst.
04:41Yeah.
04:41And he said things that had no basis in reality that anyone could ever have said.
04:46Like, so I don't know how that benefits anybody.
04:49It doesn't benefit anybody.
04:49So why did he do it?
04:51Well, I don't know why.
04:52I think he feels like by doing it, he's giving you something.
04:57If I said, hey, guess what?
04:58It's going to be 85 degrees today.
05:00I'd be giving you something, but it'd be totally inaccurate.
05:03No, no, but it would be like –
05:04I guess it might be like if somebody said, hey, what's the weather?
05:08And they went, I don't know.
05:10No, but he didn't know.
05:10He said if he wanted to be here, he would be here.
05:12No, I know that, but that's his way of giving you something.
05:16But he didn't give you anything because it's not true.
05:18Well, if he wanted to be, he would have been here for 120.
05:21That's true to that.
05:22What?
05:23If Bregman wanted to be here, there was a deal that was done in place.
05:27Bregman opted out because he wanted more money.
05:30Okay, so I'm Bregman in this case, and I say I want to be here,
05:33and I say all I want is a no-trade clause at $120 million.
05:38And the team said no.
05:39No, no, no, no, no, no.
05:40What the team said, it's like Greg going, okay.
05:44But we don't have to do Greg.
05:45Let's do this.
05:45The team said we don't want to give you a no-trade clause, so he left.
05:48Right.
05:49So then who wanted to be here?
05:50No, no, but if he wanted to be here, he would be here without the no-trade clause.
05:53No, he wanted to be here and know that he would be here so he couldn't be traded.
05:57It's the definition of the opposite of what he said.
05:59Curtis, you're moving the goalposts.
06:02He said if he wanted to be here, did Alex Bregman have two years on his deal
06:06that he could have picked up?
06:07Yes or no?
06:08Yes.
06:09Okay.
06:09So Henry, not Henry, Kennedy, now granted, he puts a little spin on it.
06:14No, no.
06:15You believe that he's selling the situation accurately,
06:21like Sam Kennedy is accurately telling you what happened.
06:24Yeah.
06:24If he wanted to be here, he would have been here.
06:27At the price we wanted, the price that we offered him, that was on the table,
06:31he didn't want that.
06:33You know, if you would have said, well, why didn't you give him the no-trade clause?
06:38Now, if he goes, well, we did, and they didn't, that'd be lying.
06:43But if he said, he might have just said, well, we didn't want to give him that, right?
06:46But there was, he's not lying when he said, if Bregman wanted to be here, he would be here.
06:52Why did they give him the opt-outs if they didn't think he would use them?
06:57Because that's to the player's benefit.
06:59Right.
07:00So basically, we're saying, hey, after one year, if you do really well,
07:04you can hit the free agent market and go get a ton of money,
07:07or you could come back here and make $41 million and make $41 for the next.
07:12We're giving you that option for you.
07:14I find it to be so interesting because Sam Kennedy, Greg, for years,
07:18has said that Boston's not for everyone.
07:21They want to find people that love it here, that are able to feed off the fans,
07:26not are terrified of them.
07:27And we have two examples in the last four to five years
07:30of Sam Kennedy doing the exact opposite.
07:33One, not calling Kyle Schwarber once in that offseason after he arrived
07:37and basically looked like he had played here his whole life.
07:39And Bregman, a guy that just wanted a no-trade clause
07:41so that his family would be here for the duration of his contract.
07:44In both cases, there were guys that had success here that were playoffed.
07:48The last two times they've gone to the playoffs,
07:50they were the leaders of those teams,
07:51and now you're sitting here without either,
07:53with the president of the team telling you nonsense.
07:56I get the part of what you're saying,
07:58but I think you're going in a different direction of what they were trying to do.
08:04So if the radio station says,
08:07hey, here's the deal we gave you, Curtis, after a year,
08:10you can opt out of it and go somewhere else,
08:13and you're going like, oh, no, I want to be here,
08:16but just guarantee me the last year.
08:18Just don't make me talk to Ken.
08:20We're not going to do that.
08:22And if you decide to opt out, that was your choice.
08:25You could have stayed at the radio station.
08:27We don't need an example.
08:29We're talking about it exactly.
08:30We know the no-trade clause.
08:31We know Alex Bregman.
08:32We know that they didn't get an opportunity.
08:34So then stop saying people are lying when they're not lying.
08:37He said if he wanted to be here, he would have been here.
08:39Is that true or not?
08:40You know what this is?
08:41It's disingenuous.
08:42No, it's not.
08:43Curtis, big bag.
08:45No, it has nothing to do with it.
08:47Big bag of new merch coming next week.
08:49No, no.
08:50Greg, you know what it is?
08:51If you're going to start spewing stuff,
08:54spew accurate stuff.
08:55What if I said that's inaccurate?
08:56That he was being disingenuine, Kennedy.
09:01Disingenuous.
09:01I screwed you up with that.
09:02Yeah, don't worry about it.
09:03He was being disingenuous when Kennedy said
09:07if he wanted to be here, he would have been here.
09:10And that's not.
09:11Of course it is.
09:12It's not.
09:13Greg, I have a question.
09:14Let me ask this question.
09:16It's a yes or no question.
09:17I just asked Greg a question.
09:18Does a no-trade clause cost money?
09:19No, no.
09:21But let me ask this question.
09:22Carry on.
09:22Yes or no?
09:24So, did Bregman have a contract that was on the table
09:27that if he wanted to be here and he opted in,
09:30he'd still be here?
09:31If he wanted to be here and he opted in.
09:33Was there a contract?
09:35Yes.
09:35Yeah, of course.
09:36Okay, yes.
09:36All right, there you go.
09:37So then, like, you're saying bottom line,
09:39Sam Kennedy's not lying there.
09:40No, he's not lying.
09:41Did they give Bregman what he wanted?
09:43No.
09:44But was there a deal already on the table that Bregman had
09:48that if he wanted to be here and said,
09:50you know what?
09:51I like Boston.
09:52I'm going to make $120 million?
09:55Right.
09:55Right.
09:56I could stay here.
09:56I'll stay here if I get a no-trade clause.
09:58I will grant him that he saw what happens
10:02when you have a player who has a high-value contract
10:06who can be traded away when nobody thought
10:10he was going to be traded away in the form of Raphael Devers.
10:15So he probably wanted some security.
10:17He's got young kids, and so he wanted some security.
10:21And wanted to know that he was going to be somewhere.
10:24And I am not disputing that.
10:26But that's a different conversation.
10:28Why didn't you give him a no-trade clause?
10:31That's a different conversation.
10:32Not when you say, oh, when the guy says if he wanted to be here,
10:37he could have been here.
10:38And then you go, oh, he's lying.
10:39No, he's not lying.
10:40He's telling you the truth.
10:42Did they offer him a no-trade clause?
10:44No, that's a different thing.
10:45If he said we offered him a no-trade clause and they didn't,
10:49then he's lying.
10:50Curtis is making it seem like Kennedy is lying when he's not.
10:53So, Wiggy, as someone who has negotiated contracts
10:55as a professional athlete, when the money is the same,
10:59then Sam Kennedy is accurate.
11:01No, but when the money is not the same,
11:03nobody is arguing that the Red Sox have the same offer
11:06as the Cubs, correct?
11:07No, but you're missing the – when there's already –
11:09I'm literally not missing any points.
11:10I've heard it a thousand times.
11:11When there's a contract on the table that you choose to opt out of.
11:16Right.
11:17That's on you.
11:18You're the one making the choice.
11:20Right.
11:20Right.
11:21And then they negotiated.
11:22Sam Kennedy was not discussing the opt-out of the contract yesterday.
11:26He was talking about the negotiation
11:28and wondering why he went to the Cubs, not why he opted out.
11:31No, but –
11:32You're conflating the two.
11:33No, I'm not.
11:33Of course you are.
11:34No, I'm saying the question asked was if he wanted to be here,
11:38he already had a deal in hand.
11:40It was a player option deal.
11:42That was not the question that was asked.
11:43He was asked about the departure.
11:46Yes.
11:46Right.
11:47And he said if he wanted to be here,
11:49he would be here because he already had a deal on the table.
11:53I don't – it's like trying to explain this to Curtis.
11:57He's the only one who can't see it who will go,
11:59well, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, no trades.
12:02How to do no trades?
12:02You're saying Alex Bregman could have leaned in a little bit,
12:05given up a little bit of what he wanted to stay here
12:07because it was already a deal.
12:09No, Wiggy's saying because he opted out of the contract,
12:11everything Sam Kennedy said was accurate, which is totally untrue.
12:13No, it is accurate.
12:14Sam Kennedy was reacting to the negotiations they had
12:16as compared to the Cubs.
12:17The only thing we're talking about,
12:19because we keep circling the cul-de-sac on this one,
12:21the only thing we're talking about is when Sam Kennedy says
12:24if he wanted to be here, he would have been here.
12:26Right.
12:26And that's true.
12:27They're off-season negotiation as it pertains to the Cubs
12:29versus the Red Sox.
12:30No, no, and that's true.
12:31No, it's not pertaining to the Cubs.
12:33Of course it is.
12:33Because there was no deal on the table for Bregman.
12:36With the Red Sox, there was no deal on the table?
12:38They didn't have an offer?
12:39Where was the offer?
12:40Oh, they had an offer.
12:41They gave him an offer.
12:42What was the offer?
12:43Well, I think I've heard...
12:44Less than what the Cubs got.
12:45Not by a lot, though.
12:46By $15 million, something like that.
12:48Like, they offered $160 or $165 or something.
12:52So would he be...
12:53Nothing to do with what he opted out of.
12:55Just that contract.
12:56So in that point, if he wanted to be here,
12:59and let's say he said,
13:00all right, we're going to give you more money,
13:02there was a deal on the table.
13:03He probably wanted the $165.
13:05He would take the $165 if there were no trade clause.
13:09They didn't want to give him that.
13:10And the Cubs were going to give him that.
13:11But he could have just played on the contract he had.
13:13Yes.
13:14All right.
13:15Well, we will do our best to get...
13:18further on this with Sam Kennedy when we talk to him.
13:21It won't matter because you know how Curtis
13:23is going to spin it anyways.
13:24Whatever Sam says, he's going to be like,
13:26oh, you know what that really means?
13:27That really means they wanted Devers,
13:29but then the money was suing.
13:31So they figured, you know what?
13:31Let's trade everybody away
13:33because you know what they're actually wanting?
13:34They want to lock out.
13:36That's it.
13:36They want to save money.
13:37Bottom line.
13:37What we need to do is say,
13:39hey, show us your books.
13:39You're wrong.
13:40You're a liar.
13:41I don't know about that.
13:42Show me one direction where Wiggy's been right
13:43about anything with the Red Sox.
13:45I've been right every single time.
13:46Show me one direction where you've been right.
13:48I saw One Direction over the weekend.
13:49They were great.
13:50What's that?
13:50Other than complaining about ticket prices.
13:52What if I brought up ticket prices?
13:54What are you talking about?
13:55But that's all you do when we talk Red Sox.
13:57You did think they were going to sign Shohei.
13:59Right.
14:00No, no.
14:00I thought they were going to...
14:01And you ripped them saying the exact thing I did.
14:03I thought they were going to sign Pete Alonso's.
14:05Circling the grain.
14:06No, no.
14:07Curtis wasn't talking about ticket prices.
14:08He was talking about hot dog sales and everything.
14:10It was expensive.
14:11Hot dog sales, right.
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