00:00At para sagutin ang mga pahayag ni Sen. Rodante Marcoleta, kaugnay sa West Philippine Sea,
00:05makakakapanayin natin si retired Supreme Court Senior Associate Justice Antonio Carpio.
00:09Magandang umaga po at welcome sa Balitang Hali.
00:13Good morning, good noon to everyone.
00:16Opo, pakipaliwanag po itong pinunan ni Sen. Marcoleta na Magalliona v. Ermita.
00:21May basihan po ba yung pagsasabi niyang Tresunus, ang desisyon ng Korte Suprema dyan?
00:26Alam mo yung Magalliona v. Ermita, ang Congress passed a law.
00:34Both the House and the Senate overwhelmingly approved the law.
00:40The President signed it and it was questioned before the Supreme Court
00:45and the Supreme Court was unanimous.
00:48The law was constitutional because it conformed to the Constitution.
00:52So, ang sinasabi ng mga petitioners sa Magalliona
01:00na ang territorial sea daw ng Pilipinas,
01:05lahat na tubig enclosed by the 1898 Treaty of Parish Lines.
01:15Eh yung international law at ONCLOS sinasabi,
01:20hanggang 12 nautical miles lang ang territorial sea from your baseline.
01:27Hindi mo masakop yung high seas,
01:29hindi mo masakop yung exclusive economic zone as part of your territorial sea.
01:35Tayo, pumirma tayo, we are a party to the UN Convention of the Law of the Sea
01:41at yung Constitution mismo natin nagsasabi na we follow,
01:46we adhere to the general principles of international law.
01:50General principles of international law na yung territorial nautical miles lang.
01:57So, yung Constitution mismo natin nagsasabi na sumunod tayo sa international law,
02:04customary international law.
02:06That means 12 nautical miles lang.
02:09Ang gusto nila, Marilyn Magalliona,
02:12sakupin natin beyond the 12 nautical miles,
02:16sakupin natin yung exclusive economic zone at high seas.
02:21Labag yan.
02:21That's against customary international law.
02:25That's against ONCLOS.
02:27So, ang ginawa ng Kongreso,
02:30they passed Republic Act 9522,
02:33overwhelmingly approved by the House and by the Senate.
02:36Pinirma ng Presidente,
02:38kinikwestiyon ngayon sa Supreme Court.
02:40Unanimous ang Supreme Court,
02:42na constitutional yun,
02:45yung Republic Act 9522.
02:47So, ang ginawa ngayon sinasabi ni Senator Marcoleta,
02:54treason rao,
02:55alam mo walang treason,
02:57there is no crime of treason during peacetime.
03:00Every freshman law student knows
03:03that treason can be committed only during wartime.
03:08So, before Marcoleta can charge me with treason,
03:16dapat,
03:17ang gagawin niya,
03:19i-amend niya muna yung Article 114 ng Revised Penal Code
03:24para treason can be committed during peacetime.
03:29At saka, baguhin niya rin yung Constitution
03:33na, kasi sa Constitution,
03:36you cannot make a criminal law retroactive.
03:40Ex post facto legislation yan.
03:43So, baguhin niya muna yung Constitution
03:45para i-repeal yung ex post facto provision.
03:50At saka, baguhin niya yung Constitution,
03:52i-repeal yung provision na
03:54we adhere to general principles of international law.
04:00At saka, dapat,
04:03i-convince niya ng President at sa ka-Senate
04:06na mag-withdraw tayo sa on-close.
04:08Dahil dun sa on-close,
04:10we agree that ang ating territorial sea
04:14ay hanggang 12 nautical miles lang.
04:17So, dapat, gawin niya muna lahat ito
04:19bago niya ma-charge kami ng...
04:22At saka, i-convince niya yung Supreme Court
04:24na lahat ng mga members of the Congress,
04:27the Senators and the Congressmen
04:30who passed the Republic Act 9522,
04:34at saka yung President who signed it
04:36are committed treason.
04:39Kukonvince niya.
04:39At saka yung lahat ng mga justices
04:41ng Supreme Court,
04:42unanimous sila eh.
04:44Yudalimous kami noon.
04:45Opo.
04:45Interesado ba kayo, Justice?
04:47These people are committed treason.
04:48Gawin niya muna yun.
04:49Aha.
04:50Interesado ba kay Justice
04:51na makipag-debate
04:51kay Sen. Marcoleta
04:52tungkol dito
04:53at sa issue ng West Philippine Sea?
04:55Handa rin po yung host
04:56ng Philippine Bar Association.
04:57Yung debating yan.
04:57Yes, I accept the terms
04:59of the Philippine Bar Association.
05:05May term sila.
05:07It will be a formal debate.
05:09Papayag ako.
05:10Kahit saan.
05:11Papayag ako.
05:12At wala pong mga kondisyon?
05:14No.
05:15Ang alam mo,
05:16pag-debate,
05:16may proposition.
05:18May affirmative at negative.
05:20So, pag may affirmative at negative,
05:22yun.
05:23At saka yung topic dapat
05:27is there, ano,
05:29yung sinasabi kasi niya,
05:30wala rong West Philippine
05:32topic,
05:33it should be
05:34whether there is legally
05:35a West Philippine Sea.
05:37At saka sinasabi niya, Marcoleta,
05:41the Calayad Island Group
05:43are located outside our EZ.
05:50Nasa high-sist daw po.
05:51Maliro yun.
05:52So, one of the top,
05:54the sub-topic will be
05:56whether the entire,
05:58form part of Philippine territory,
06:00even if some parts are outside
06:02our exclusive economic zone.
06:05Yung mga issue na nirace niya,
06:07yun dapat.
06:07Para matuto yung publiko.
06:10This is to educate everybody.
06:12Dahil hindi pwede yung isang senador,
06:15sinasabi niya,
06:17public,
06:17that walang West Philippine Sea,
06:19legally,
06:19walang West Philippine Sea,
06:21that is just the imagination
06:22of some people.
06:24Okay, let's debate on that.
06:26Whether that is a legal definition
06:28of West Philippine Sea
06:29under Philippine law.
06:31Justice,
06:31para po kay datang
06:32senador Francis Tolentino,
06:33mas gugulo daw yung isyo
06:35kapag magdidebate kayo
06:36ni senador Marcoleta,
06:37mas importante,
06:39pagdialog na lang sa China.
06:40Reaction niya po yan.
06:41Nagsalita na si Marcoleta,
06:43we have to correct this,
06:45otherwise the people will be misinformed.
06:48We have to correct this.
06:51To some extent,
06:52pareho kayo,
06:53yung sinasabi na
06:54ang 12 nautical miles,
06:56yun lang ang ginagenerate
06:57ng ating mga teritoryo,
06:58and beyond that,
06:59ay high seas.
07:01Pero,
07:01unique po,
07:02hindi ba?
07:03Beyond 12 nautical miles,
07:05exclusive economic zone.
07:06Easy, opo.
07:07Beyond 200 miles,
07:10high seas na yan.
07:12Pero unique po yung sitwasyon
07:14ng pag-asa island,
07:15hindi ba?
07:15Pwede nyo bang may paliwanag yun?
07:17Yung,
07:18alam mo,
07:19ibang,
07:20ano,
07:20there are two disputes
07:22in the South China Sea,
07:23the maritime dispute
07:24and the territorial dispute.
07:26Opo.
07:26Yung maritime dispute
07:27governed by Ong Clause.
07:30Mm-hmm.
07:30Territorial dispute
07:32principles of international law.
07:34Yung,
07:36yung,
07:37because of that,
07:38within your
07:39exclusive economic zone,
07:41there can be
07:44territories
07:44that are
07:46that do not belong to you,
07:48that belong to other countries.
07:49And there are also
07:51territories beyond
07:52the exclusive economic zone
07:54that can be
07:55belong to countries.
07:57Hindi pwede,
07:57hindi mo,
07:58what he's saying na,
08:00dahil,
08:00outside the exclusive
08:02economic zone natin,
08:03yung apat na isla
08:05ng Kalayan Island Group,
08:06hindi na,
08:06hindi na natin maklaim yun.
08:08Mali yun.
08:09Opo.
08:09You can claim
08:10even beyond
08:11your exclusive economic zone,
08:14offshore islands
08:15ang tawag dyan.
08:16At nasa batas na po natin
08:17at meron ng elected officials
08:18sa mga lugar na yun.
08:19Ano ho?
08:20Yes.
08:221734 pa,
08:23nasa Pedro Murillo Velarde map
08:25na yung
08:25Los Bajos de Paragua.
08:27Spratless yun.
08:28Yung Kalayan Island Group,
08:30clean name natin yan,
08:321734 pa.
08:33Mahaba-haba po talaga
08:34at masalimutang debate ito
08:36kung sakaling matuloy po
08:37inyong debate
08:37pero very interesting.
08:38Maraming salamat po
08:39sa oras na binahagi nyo
08:40sa Balitang Hali.
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