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Young-Montana, Brady-Bledsoe, Brees-Rivers, no Rodgers-Favre (episode aired in 2008)
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00:00It hasn't been decided yet. We're not going to talk about the quarterback situation right now.
00:04It's almost like to like one person, you have to dislike the other.
00:07There's three quarterbacks on this football team.
00:09Whichever one starts, starts. Whichever one's don't, we'll back him up.
00:12Period. Cut and dry.
00:14High in the center is the man who calls the plays. The quarterback.
00:18The quarterback decision has to be one of the hardest the coaches ever have.
00:23The math is simple.
00:24For every two quarterbacks, there is only one starting job.
00:28For the odd man out, or his head coach, it doesn't always add up.
00:34Are you hurt and frustrated, or how do you feel?
00:37Next question.
00:38I think the elements of a great quarterback controversy are having two guys playing at a level that's equal to the other.
00:46Our problem is we have two.
00:47So then it's a matter of where do you go?
00:50What are you doing?
00:50The quarterback battle is officially here.
00:53For the contrary, do you waver?
00:55Make the switch. Put in the other quarterback.
00:56Do you have any sleepless nights? Are you flipping a coin? Are you sure?
01:00Ah, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute.
01:02A top ten quarterback controversy is a true dilemma between two worthy choices.
01:08Who starts at quarterback?
01:10There will be no recounts.
01:13These are our top ten quarterback controversies.
01:16Shake hands and come out throwing.
01:18The number ten quarterback controversy of all time, Drew Bledsoe versus Tom Brady.
01:27There was a Bledsoe camp and a Brady camp.
01:29You can still find Bledsoe people like World War II Japanese soldiers will come walking out of the jungles and still think the war is on.
01:38There are still Bledsoe people like that somewhere in the backwoods of Maine.
01:41And they'll come out and they'll say, Drew's better than Brady, you know.
01:44Drew Bledsoe was a New England mainstay who had proved to Patriots fans that he could win.
01:49The Patriots are going to the Super Bowl.
01:52Tom Brady began 2001 as a little-known backup.
01:56But one huge hit started our number ten quarterback controversy with a bang.
02:02Oh, blasted to the ground.
02:04Tom Brady has been put into quarterback.
02:06But Bledsoe's taken out.
02:07Nobody really knew, nobody really expected to do much, comes in, fires down the middle, it is caught, touchdown.
02:15And all of a sudden, he becomes the golden child.
02:18Fox for love, Tom Brady.
02:23When Bledsoe was healthy enough to play, the Patriots handed him a clipboard instead.
02:28I'll just put it this way.
02:29I look forward to the chance to compete for my job.
02:32This was a very respected, kind of beloved figure in New England.
02:37There was a sense that the carpet had been pulled out from under Drew Bledsoe.
02:41It's almost like to like one person, you have to dislike the other.
02:45And that's not the way it should be, and that's not the way it is.
02:48Which Patriots quarterback do you think should start?
02:50It was an incredibly divisive controversy.
02:54Bledsoe.
02:54Why?
02:55We poll the coaches, we're going to poll the fans.
02:58Because Bledsoe, look at his history, he's just a better quarterback.
03:01We're going to poll the fourth graders.
03:04We're going to, I mean, the barbers.
03:06We'll poll everybody.
03:09In the AFC Championship game came another hard hit.
03:13And Brittany's down.
03:14And another chance for Bledsoe.
03:16Drew Bledsoe, his first touchdown pass of the season.
03:19He won the night game.
03:21Everybody remembers the great catch by David Patton.
03:22But sandwiched in there, he ran out on the sidelines in the same exact fashion that he did when he got his arteries severed by Mo Willis.
03:31Is the fire hot?
03:32Yeah, still hot.
03:34The Patriots were lucky to survive.
03:36And we're heading to New Orleans as the American Football Conference champions.
03:40A well-respected national writer goes, well, who do you start next week?
03:44The old guy turns around and goes, what do you mean, who do you start?
03:47Did you watch the game?
03:49If Bledsoe gets in there, they get killed.
03:50Brady got the start in Super Bowl XXXVI, and his performance met Bledsoe's days in New England were numbered.
04:00Brady drops, back to throw, looks, fires.
04:03Touchdown, the Patriots!
04:05A Super Bowl champion!
04:08The Patriots were going through the day they ever traded Drew Bledsoe within the division.
04:12When Drew starts out and has a really good first half of a season in Buffalo...
04:18You know me, I make anything look good.
04:19And now it's like, well, maybe Belichick isn't so smart.
04:23Unfortunately for Drew, there was a second half to the season.
04:26You just have to stand there and watch this guy's legend get bigger...
04:30Super Bowl!
04:31Yeah!
04:32And bigger...
04:33The Patriots are going to be Super Bowl champions again!
04:37And bigger.
04:37For a guy like Bledsoe, it had to be incredibly difficult.
04:40Coming up, which Hall of Fame quarterback created controversy for Jimmy Johnson?
04:46And a new quarterback...
04:48Trent Dillton!
04:49Will I be...
04:51Won it all.
04:52And the Ravens are the champions of the world!
04:54It wasn't the first time the quarterbacks were its leg to Super Bowl success.
05:00None.
05:00The number nine quarterback controversy of all time.
05:05Terry Bradshaw versus Joe Gillum.
05:09I mean, the whole franchise is really sort of teetering on its axis.
05:14And the decision of who's going to play quarterback is really going to determine whether this team's going to go on to win or not.
05:18Our number nine quarterback controversy pit at the Blonde Bomber.
05:24That's the Blonde Bomber.
05:26Against Jefferson Street Joe.
05:28Here's Gillum from the pocket.
05:29Firing downfield.
05:30That's down, Pittsburgh!
05:32Joe Gillum made an impression with head coach Chuck Knoll after leading the Steelers to a perfect preseason in 1974.
05:39Would you say realistically that he has a good fighting chance to be our number one quarterback at the beginning of the season?
05:46Well, he's done very well in preseason.
05:48He's been the most productive.
05:51Knoll makes the decision at the beginning of the 1974 season that he's going to go into the season with Joe Gillum as his starting quarterback.
05:59I think Chuck wanted to give Terry a little bit of a kick up the backside by saying,
06:03Look, you having the number one job isn't written in stone.
06:06This guy can do it just as well.
06:08Rule 24!
06:10Joe Gillum.
06:10Gillum threw for over 600 yards in his first two games, including a 30-0 drumming of the Baltimore Colts.
06:20Maybe the quickest release of the football of anybody that's ever come along.
06:24If you talk to the Pittsburgh Steelers coaches, they will tell you that when they would look at film of the quarterback's throwing,
06:32at no point could they stop the film on a single frame and have a clear picture of Joe Gillum's hand.
06:40It was always a blur, and he had a confidence that at that point Terry had lost.
06:46Imagine your arm is so strong that you're known for your strong arm on a team with Bradshaw.
06:53There are less than 10 quarterbacks in the league ever who had a stronger arm.
06:59Don't go out to the restaurants that I used to frequent.
07:06Don't read the newspapers because they're going to say bad things about you.
07:09He went into somewhat of seclusion when he wasn't at practice.
07:14He was going home to no one.
07:18You know, it's part of the pressure that you have to learn how to handle in order to be an NFL quarterback.
07:23That spotlight, it's bright.
07:24Sometimes it's searing.
07:28Meanwhile, Gillum's flashy style of throw first run never was exciting to watch,
07:33but not exactly Coach Knoll's cup of tea.
07:37Gillum was the starting quarterback for a number of games
07:39until Chuck finally decided he was throwing the ball too much.
07:43You know, then he was throwing a willy-nilly.
07:45Gillum threw to a double-covered Ron Shanklin with the predictable results.
07:54And that just wasn't the way the Pittsburgh Steelers played in those days.
07:56Bradshaw is not the way they played now.
07:59We're gone with Terry. Terry's our guy.
08:01And at that point, everybody fell in behind Bradshaw,
08:04and the Steelers went on to win four Super Bowls.
08:06The Pittsburgh Steelers are the champions of the National Football League.
08:10Joe Gillum's career never recovered from that point.
08:13Hard to beat. Hard to beat.
08:16I think history has proven that Terry Bradshaw deserved that job,
08:20was better than Joe Gillum,
08:23and ultimately led them to where they wanted to go.
08:26The number eight quarterback controversy of all time,
08:30Troy Aikman versus Steve Wong.
08:33People thought Jimmy was crazy.
08:34I can't believe it.
08:35But for the first couple of years here, everybody thought Jimmy was crazy.
08:38Jimmy Johnson was crazy good at the University of Miami.
08:43His new team was really bad.
08:45Let's go! Let's go!
08:47The Cowboys had the first pick of the 1980 draft,
08:50and they used it on Troy Aikman.
08:52The scouts and all the people in the Cowboys' front office
08:55all pointed to Aikman as the best player in the draft.
08:59But just a few months later,
09:00Johnson took his old college quarterback, Steve Walsh,
09:03in the NFL supplemental draft,
09:05and controversy blew in like a hurricane.
09:08The scouts were not convinced that Walsh could be a winning quarterback in the NFL.
09:13He didn't have the arm, he didn't have the physical ability.
09:15Jimmy knew what Walsh's physical strengths and weaknesses were.
09:19He did know that Steve Walsh had won for him.
09:23The Miami Hurricanes are national champions.
09:26You're telling me Aikman's the guy, maybe he will be the guy.
09:29But just in case he's not, I want to have Walsh there.
09:32Now here's Steve Walsh.
09:33Here's a guy who really understands what's going on in the football field.
09:37Seemed like a very curious decision
09:39to bring in two rookie quarterbacks at the same time.
09:42Junior League!
09:43Everybody assumed Jimmy wants Walsh to be his quarterback.
09:47We'll take Steve Walsh, we'll light a fire under Troy Aikman.
09:50Aikman didn't feel Jimmy Johnson likely.
09:53He felt Jimmy was looking for somebody else.
09:54Jimmy had a relationship with someone who was going to be a competitor of mine.
09:58The acquisition of Steve Walsh kept us from developing a relationship much sooner.
10:04At first, Johnson made Aikman the starter.
10:07But when the first overall pick wasn't out of place, he was on the ground.
10:11That first year, he proved his toughness to Jim Johnson, the entire team.
10:15Still with Aikman injured, Walsh led the Cowboys to their only win of 1989.
10:21And Jimmy Johnson is one happy man.
10:24We were talking about the quarterbacks, and Jimmy Johnson was a coin flip difference away from starting Steve Walsh.
10:33And I said, Jimmy, you can't do that. They'll burn your house down.
10:36Hot.
10:38You realize at the end of that first year that you had your quarterback of the future,
10:42that nobody was going to be that tough.
10:43Aikman won the job for good, shaking off our number eight quarterback controversy as if it was a blindside hit.
10:50Tough, tough, tough.
10:51Within a year, Walsh was gone.
10:54Aikman proves to be a great player.
10:56Cowboys are back on top of the mountain. They should stay there a while.
10:59Win three Super Bowls.
11:00How do you feel about a second Super Bowl?
11:02Cowboys are World Series again.
11:04And ultimately, he's a Hall of Famer.
11:05It's just stunning to me.
11:07Boy Aikman in the Hall of Fame, that he was ever part of a quarterback controversy.
11:12And the fact that Steve Walsh was the guy with whom he was embroiled in this controversy.
11:16Walsh throws it out. Intercepted.
11:17Makes it even more shocking.
11:19No offense to Steve Walsh.
11:20Coming up, controversy in the Capitol.
11:235-0 Bob Greasy suited the Dolphins just fine in the Super Bowl, completing their perfect season.
11:31One of the toughest decisions I ever had to make in my coaching career.
11:35That same year, first-rounder Billy Kilmer took over for Sonny Jergensen as the Redskins starting quarterback.
11:42This ball goes to Billy Kilmer because he...
11:44But choosing between two candidates is a familiar story in Washington.
11:50The number seven quarterback controversy of all time.
11:55Jay Schrader versus Doug Williams.
12:00Lawrence Taylor was up saying Theismann is hurt.
12:03One of the first traitor memories was when he came in after Theismann broke his leg on Monday night.
12:07They bring in Jay Schrader, second-year man out of UCLA.
12:11He'd come in very touted, big arm.
12:13And I would assume when he really gets up to the game.
12:16So people were all of a sudden saying, oh my God, this is our guy.
12:19He was a big, strong-armed guy, great with the deep ball.
12:22Threw a bullet into the end zone.
12:25Touchdown, Washington Redskins!
12:27Doug Williams had once been a young hotshot quarterback, but it was with the hopeless Bucs.
12:32By the time he got to D.C., he was only a backup.
12:35There's Doug Williams, who's not dressed, not on the active roster today.
12:39Doug Williams at that point...
12:40Schrader had the intangibles.
12:42He wasn't a leader.
12:44He didn't have the personality.
12:45People didn't like him.
12:46In his career, he was practically done.
12:50During the 1986 NFC Championship, ends of controversy swirled around the Redskins.
12:56There's the image in Delbley Byrne and Redskins fans' reigns of Jay Schrader, shell-shocked face
13:01because of the beating he took from that Giants defense.
13:04Jay Schrader just wielded down in front of the Redskins bench.
13:07Schrader was dazed.
13:09He gets up, he walks a bit toward the sideline.
13:11They put Doug Williams into the game, and Schrader waved him off.
13:16That was the beginning of their controversy.
13:18He was arrogant, believed he couldn't do anything wrong, and that was the problem.
13:21There's no way they're going to get me out of this game.
13:24That was one of the most embarrassing moments of my life.
13:27That stuck with me for a long, long time, and it still sticks with me.
13:31Is this really our guy, or is there somebody better?
13:34During the 1987 opener, Jay Schrader hurt his shoulder, giving Williams a chance for beginning
13:44a season-long quarterback carousel.
13:46What a great chance by Doug Williams!
13:49Whoa, did he do it all!
13:51Doug Williams wins three games coming off the bench that year.
13:54Jay Schrader struggles, doesn't play as well as he did before.
13:56Ironically, every game that Doug Williams started, he lost.
13:59He was better coming off the bench.
14:01And so they kind of go back and forth during the course of the season.
14:05Here's Doug Williams.
14:06He's got a little pouch to keep his hands warm.
14:07Williams, the man of the moment, and Schrader, the man of the pan.
14:11Once Doug started to play well.
14:13Back is Doug Williams.
14:14Closed it in a hurry.
14:15Touchdown, Washington Redskins!
14:17There was a real groundswell to keep him in there and see what this guy could do.
14:21The Saturday morning we're going to play the biggest football game in the history of Western civilization.
14:25Named the starter for the playoffs, Williams led the Redskins to Super Bowl XXII,
14:30and his performance put an end to our number seven quarterback controversy.
14:35Four touchdowns in one quarter!
14:37Doug Williams, also, valuable player.
14:40I would say it's one of the biggest quarterback controversies.
14:45The fact that Williams goes on to lead the Redskins to a Super Bowl victory,
14:50I think that gives us even greater significance.
14:52That was a funny quarterback controversy because it was so short-lived.
14:55Sonny versus Billy remains the ultimate quarterback controversy in this town.
14:59Jurgensen, Kilmer.
15:02Not on this list.
15:03You're f***ing him.
15:05The number six quarterback controversy of all time.
15:08Doug Flutie versus Rob Johnson.
15:13It was certainly a controversy.
15:15What a play!
15:15What a throw by Johnson!
15:17Doug Flutie had magic.
15:18Here's Flutie rolling out, and he is in for the touchdown!
15:22This place is Bedlam in his pocket!
15:25The classic debate between the guy who's much better than everyone thinks he should be
15:30versus the guy who's never quite what he's supposed to be.
15:33Brushing set!
15:33Our number six quarterback controversy is the story of the stone-cold competitor.
15:42If anyone were to say they're completely content sitting the bench, they don't belong in the game.
15:46Versus the laid-back surfer dude.
15:49You know, where I come from, football is not, like, the most important thing.
15:53Totally!
15:53Rob Johnson talked about one of the one-game wonders who played one good game and got a contract out of it.
16:00And everybody then thought, oh, he can play.
16:02Rob on his feet, five.
16:04Rob firing for the end zone.
16:05Touchdown, Jaguars!
16:07Buffalo traded for Johnson before the 1998 season for a first- and fourth-round draft pick.
16:13If you just measured him, if you just had him throw the ball through a tire,
16:17you'd look at it and say, boy, here's a guy that's going to be an all-timer.
16:20Johnson's one-shining performance earned him a $25 million contract.
16:26Excellent!
16:27When you pay a quarterback that kind of money, you're going to create an issue.
16:33In contrast, the Bills signed Doug Flutie for a pittance of what they gave Rob Johnson.
16:40The role of being behind Rob Johnson would never appeal to him.
16:45Once he saw Rob was not the guy in his mind, he set out to unseat Rob.
16:52Can you get some of this Flutie?
16:53Sure.
16:54That's what I live for.
16:58In Indianapolis, Johnson takes a hit, doesn't get up.
17:02And in comes Doug Flutie.
17:04And look at this, Doug Flutie now is coming in.
17:06When Flutie got in, Flutie performed.
17:09He is the guy, he is the leader.
17:11Flutie, let it go!
17:13For the touchdown!
17:14He's what the Bills need, and Rob Johnson isn't.
17:18He is a miracle man, man.
17:19I believe.
17:21Flutie reached a rock star status when he left the Bills to the playoffs in 1998.
17:28I would just like to thank you for all of you for your support.
17:32He became the people's choice, for sure.
17:34Hey Flutie, what flag football league did you play at 12 and 13?
17:37They dug the 80s called They Want Their Hair Back.
17:40It was always hard for a franchise to build its team, its foundation around Doug Flutie.
17:46Look, they're going to run me over in the hallway.
17:50In 1999, Flutie again led the Bills to the playoffs, but was asked to take a backseat to Johnson.
17:56This week, as far as quarterbacks are concerned, I'm starting Rob Johnson.
18:01A change at quarterback for the underdog Bills, they start Rob Johnson instead of Doug Flutie.
18:07So the decision at the end, when they get the playoffs, to bench Flutie and go back to Johnson, I think was very unpopular.
18:15Rob Johnson, in a one-score loss, 10 of 31, a fumble out of the end zone for his safety.
18:23Your decision.
18:25Johnson's going to throw in, double sack, all rolling free!
18:29You know, in hindsight, Doug probably would have won the game, so that's kind of the way it worked out.
18:35Titans win!
18:35Since benching Flutie, the Bills haven't made the playoffs and have averaged only seven wins a year.
18:42Can this get any worse?
18:43I really feel that if they would have let Doug Flutie stay in the game and gave him that job and really supported him, that that Buffalo Bills team would have been better.
18:51Coming up, big-time drama in the Big Apple.
18:55You know, everybody's trying to stir that.
18:57And now, the number five quarterback controversy of all time.
19:01Phil Simms versus Jeff Hostetler.
19:04Yeah, Simms and Hostetler was kind of interesting.
19:08Jeff Hostetler was a pretty good quarterback.
19:10Hostetler looking.
19:11Throws, touchdown!
19:13That's a guy that you tend to forget at the Super Bowl ring.
19:16Hostetler, man.
19:17Congratulations.
19:19Phil was a far better quarterback.
19:21The Super Bowl champions are the Giants.
19:24I'm going to go to Disneyland, yeah!
19:26Our number five quarterback controversy began in 1990 when Phil Simms broke his foot.
19:35Simms has been leveled on that play.
19:38The New York faithful were in shock as the remainder of the season was now on the shoulders of Jeff Hostetler.
19:45At that point, Hostetler had not played very much.
19:49Now, what's kind of lost in all this is the fact that Jeff had been a very good college player.
19:54Nobody on the bandwagon.
19:55Everybody was a pessimist.
19:57Everybody was, hey, look what you've got at quarterback.
19:59Here's your weak link.
20:00He's never going to be able to do it.
20:02You know, everybody's trying to stir that up around here.
20:04You know, who's sitting, who's playing.
20:06I don't really give a...
20:07Hostetler throws everything.
20:12A lot of guys just kept thinking that Hostetler going to do it, a backup quarterback, big game.
20:19You've never been in this type of situation.
20:22He was like our secret weapon.
20:23Rarely have you seen a backup commitment to play that well, and he was a legitimate backup.
20:28Hostetler's trying to pass.
20:29Rose on the run and completes the removal.
20:32Kick is away.
20:33He's got the distance.
20:34It is good.
20:36Good.
20:36And the Giants are going to Tampa Bay.
20:39It's over for the three-peak.
20:40Remember, Phil did not beat the Niners in a regular season game.
20:44They keep on telling me I can't, and, you know, I'm going to the Super Bowl.
20:51Hostetler ended his remarkable playoff run by giving the Giants their second championship in five years.
20:58Good job.
20:59What effort.
21:01Something that they said would never happen, couldn't happen.
21:03Here we are.
21:04We've won the Super Bowl.
21:05And I think he was also, he represents the most bitter memory for Phil Simms.
21:10I remember him saying he went to the game in Tampa that year and left at halftime because he really didn't feel like a part of that Giants team.
21:17Things heated up in 1991 as Bill Parcells skipped town and left new head coach Ray Hanley with a big decision.
21:27I'm not concerned about the decision because I can't make a bad decision.
21:30It's hard to have both guys in the position that both think they can play.
21:34And by the way, both are Super Bowl winners.
21:35So what's the game plan when you have two championship quarterbacks?
21:40The Giants never figured one out.
21:43And neither Sims nor Hostetler ever reached a Super Bowl again.
21:48If you have two quarterbacks, you have no quarterbacks.
21:50Okay.
21:51That's it.
21:52That's the bottom line.
21:53Number four quarterback controversy of all time.
21:56Drew Brees versus Phillip Rivers.
21:59Four.
22:00Immediately, within 10 seconds, you had created a quarterback controversy.
22:03How could you not?
22:04The San Diego Chargers select Eli Manning, quarterback, Mississippi.
22:10The San Diego Chargers and the New York Giants have exchanged their draft picks, Eli Manning and Phillip Rivers.
22:17Drew Brees had a lot of football left in him.
22:19And yet, by bringing in Phillip Rivers with the first round pick in the draft, they totally changed the dynamic in San Diego.
22:26He's short.
22:27He doesn't have a cannon for an arm.
22:29Drew Brees is taking a licking out there.
22:32Drew Brees is always going to have either his coach or the GM or somebody in the back of their mind thinking,
22:39we've got to get a guy that looks more like a real NFL quarterback.
22:42Dang.
22:45Trade?
22:46The draft, Phillip Rivers?
22:48I mean, that's an absolute slap in the face.
22:49And he just accepted it as a challenge.
22:51What does this mean for Drew Brees in the short and long term?
22:54We're going to open it to competition.
22:55And whoever turns out to be the best man, they'll be the one that leads the Chargers this season.
23:00Whoa, wait a minute.
23:01When Phillip holds out, Drew absolutely took hold of that team.
23:05Good job, Drew.
23:06He leads the NFL preseason in passing a 105 quarterback rating.
23:11Phillip shows up.
23:12He's behind on the field in the playbook, obviously.
23:14Oh, he doesn't know.
23:16Bring in a guy that you traded for on draft day.
23:18You assume he's going to come in and be your quarterback.
23:21And then Drew Brees is done.
23:22Drew Brees gets to start.
23:24And then, lo and behold,
23:25Drew Brees, the best half of football in his four years.
23:29Guess what?
23:29The short guy's pretty damn good.
23:31Oh, look at that, Drew Brees, baby.
23:36Drew Brees' breakout year in 2004 produced a trip to the playoffs.
23:40Chargers are AFC West champions.
23:43And lots of questions about the controversy.
23:46How do you envision this whole playing out?
23:48We go and win the Super Bowl, and I get signed here for the rest of my career.
23:51Now everybody...
23:52Uh, well, that's what happened just with the Saints.
23:55Uh, well, that's what happened just with the Saints.
23:55I love Drew.
23:57So where does that put Phillip?
23:58They're kind of a precarious position.
24:00And after one year's time, it was clear you could not go forward with this.
24:03I mean, they had to make a decision.
24:07Brees or Phillip Rivers?
24:09It was the question at the heart of our number four quarterback controversy.
24:12In 2005, fate answered it for the Chargers.
24:17Drew, Drew is holding his right shoulder.
24:19Drew is absolutely earned.
24:21The Chargers really lucked out on that.
24:23They were over-faced with what they were going to do about a contract decision with Drew Brees.
24:26It became easier for them to justify not signing him.
24:30Brees got healthy and signed with the Saints, while Rivers took over the Chargers.
24:35Both have led their teams to conference championship games.
24:38The San Diego Chargers are going to go to Foxborough!
24:41And the Saints are going to go to the NFC championship game!
24:46Up next, our favorite controversy from the fabulous 50s.
24:50Knock the pipe out of Fred Jerky's kisser.
24:53Five.
24:54Oh.
24:54California quarterback controversy.
24:57The number three quarterback controversy of all time.
25:00Norm Van Brocklin versus Bob Waterfield.
25:03I'd like you all to meet this two-time passing champion of the National League,
25:08Norman Van Brocklin, Los Angeles Rams.
25:11The first quarterback controversy to gain national attention began in 1949,
25:16when the Los Angeles Rams brought in rookie Norm Van Brocklin to compete with all-pro Bob Waterfield.
25:23You wind up with two quarterbacks that ultimately are both going to wind up in the Hall of Fame.
25:30They were two different types of personalities and two different styles.
25:34Waterfield, clean-cut, all-American boy.
25:37He was also a play-by-the-design play, you know, methodically move the team down the field sort of quarterback.
25:44Waterfield hits the target, complete to Dick Warner, the 12-yard game.
25:48Then you've got Norm Van Brocklin, the Dutchman.
25:52Mean SOB.
25:53Van Brocklin was an SOB both as a player and later on as a coach.
25:58I had him right in the **** down.
26:01Kill it, **** sucker!
26:02Where the **** big big you up from?
26:04Norm Van Brocklin, God rest his soul, the rotten SOB.
26:09One of the rottenest individuals on or off the field I've ever known in my life.
26:14Oh, work the **** game, Jeffy!
26:17Work it while you got a job!
26:19He was more of a gunslinger.
26:20He threw the ball deep more.
26:21Van Brocklin gets off a tremendous heat, and the play covers 48 yards.
26:25Norm Van Brocklin's passing in a single game still holds as a record.
26:29Much more brusque, much more confrontational than Waterfield.
26:33Van Brocklin, he wanted to run his game.
26:35And so in this game, they sent in a play, and Van Brocklin didn't like the play.
26:39And he just disregarded it.
26:41And so they took him out and they put Waterfield in.
26:43The Rams, led by Bob Waterfield, make their appearance.
26:46And Waterfield went on to have a tremendous game.
26:49And here comes a smoothie by Mr. Waterfield.
26:52Ultimately, that was the difference between winning the passing title.
26:55Van Brocklin had been ahead to that point.
26:57Waterfield went in, passed him, and wound up winning the passing championship.
27:00Waterfield reached down into his bag of tricks for an old Waterfield special.
27:07Yep, he's going to give that melon a long toss and knock the pipe out of Fred Gerke's kisser.
27:12Equipped with two golden arms, the Rams had the daunting task of deciding who would be the main man.
27:23Joe Sidear, the coach, alternated these players by quarter, regardless of how the game was going.
27:28Waterfield will play a quarter, Van Brocklin will play a quarter.
27:30And Waterfield will play the next quarter, Van Brocklin will play the next quarter.
27:32I mean, it seems absurd, but that was the way the Rams did it.
27:36And the fact is, they were good enough to win that way.
27:38It's Waterfield again doing the damage.
27:40Van Brocklin, he wasn't thrilled with, but he would accept alternating with Bob Waterfield
27:46because he recognized that Waterfield was a great player.
27:49The Los Angeles Rams, paced by Bob Waterfield, took undisputed first place in the Western Division.
27:54Somebody should make a movie about Bob Waterfield and Norm Van Brocklin.
28:03In a town known for its stars, our number three quarterback controversy was a screenwriter's dream.
28:11It was a media town, so it did play up to the fact that you had these two modified stars
28:17and the combination of those two in Los Angeles, at a time when there were six, seven newspapers in Los Angeles,
28:24a city that would run on stars anyway, documenting this.
28:29Norm Van Brocklin, sensational passing rookie from Oregon.
28:32And the fact that Bob Waterfield had a beautiful movie star wife.
28:36He was totally into football, and even after he stopped playing, I know he missed it dreadfully.
28:44So Waterfield scored Jane Russell, while Van Brocklin got a different taste of Hollywood.
28:51My palace, that's for me. Keeps your hair in need all day.
28:55Really?
28:56Waterfield and Van Brocklin combined for one of the NFL's most powerful offenses,
29:01averaging just shy of 400 points a season.
29:04Throws an arching pass upfield.
29:05Racy Town Fierce gathers it in on a dead run and races all the way to score.
29:09The dynamic duo led the Rams to an NFL championship in 1951.
29:14The lead, Joppo Joe Steinhardt is hoisted to the collective shoulders of the new world champion.
29:20Bob Waterfield retired in 1952, while Norm Van Brocklin kept the Rams' passing attack going
29:27and even won another championship with the Philadelphia Eagles in 1960.
29:32The fabulous Dutchman Norm Van Brocklin earned the league's most valuable player award
29:36for his role in the Eagles' fight to victory.
29:38At their best, there couldn't be an outright winner.
29:41Bob Waterfield, a Rams' star passer, gets a touchdown, Ariel.
29:45Again, it's Van Brocklin throwing the leather for the famed Los Angeles Rams.
29:50Because the number two guy was going to be too good to be ignored.
29:54Coming up, sticks and stones break cowboy bones.
29:57Rickham, we're the a** of all time.
29:59Craig Morton versus Roger Staubach.
30:03Cowboys actually had a very difficult choice here.
30:06We had an established, solid quarterback for a good team.
30:10Morton.
30:10Craig Morton threw as well on that one as he's ever thrown in his life.
30:15Morton was a talented player, that's what people have to realize he's a very talented player.
30:19Staubach would get on the field and fans love him.
30:22A different kind of weapon.
30:24A guy with a lot more mobility and a lot more daring.
30:26Lange still was more comfortable with Morton because Roger wouldn't want to break all the plays.
30:32He's the better runner of the two, though not considered the better passer.
30:36You could see how torn Tom was.
30:39He liked Craig Morton.
30:40What was not to like Craig was a really good quarterback.
30:42But he looked at Staubach, and even though he wasn't his style.
30:47A great play by Staubach!
30:49You could see him just wrestling game to game, almost year to year.
30:53What do I do with this situation?
30:56Craig Morton was Landry's quarterback in Super Bowl V, but a losing effort didn't help his cause.
31:06Craig Morton was one of the, maybe the worst Super Bowl quarterback of all time.
31:11That kind of gave Coach Landry a reason to really look at Roger Staubach and say, maybe this guy has to answer.
31:20He was beginning to sort of phase out Morton and phase in Staubach, but he wasn't quite ready to make the full commitment.
31:27The Dallas Cowboys have quarterback problems, too.
31:29Only Coach Tom Landry has decided to solve his in a unique way, by rotating on every play Roger Staubach and Craig Morton.
31:37I run out in the field, Craig's run off the field, and I'm just mystified like he is.
31:41It's like two ships passing in a night.
31:42It's very rare to see two quarterbacks being rotated.
31:45You don't really ever see it because it doesn't work.
31:48When I'm in the game, do me this favor, go get my dry cleaning for me.
31:52When I come back, you know, I'll get your shopping list.
31:55So when you play in the game, I'll then go out, pick up the rice that you need for whatever pilaf you got cooking later on tonight.
32:02It was right after that that Coach Landry ended up making the decision to go with Roger Staubach.
32:09Secure in the starting job, Roger Staubach won Super Bowl VI for the Cowboys.
32:14Staubach drops back to pass, and the touchdown!
32:17There wasn't any question now that Coach Landry had made the right decision.
32:20Yeah, Coach.
32:22It was very nice.
32:23Very good. Congratulations.
32:25We found Craig Morton, another place to go to where he could be that starting quarterback that he felt like he needed to be.
32:30Morton goes to Denver.
32:32The Broncos are going to the Super Bowl!
32:35He winds up taking the Broncos to the Super Bowl, and they're playing against the Cowboys, and he's playing against Roger Staubach.
32:42Kind of a special treat. I'd like to introduce you to fellas.
32:44Craig Morton, Roger Staubach, Roger.
32:47Hello, Mr. Staubach. I've met Craig before, I believe.
32:49Have you met before? I didn't realize that.
32:56Roger goes deep across the middle.
32:58Touchdown, it's a punt! Touchdown!
33:01The game turns into an absolute nightmare for Craig Morton.
33:04Morton will throw, has time.
33:06Up, hits, he lets it go, it's intercepted again!
33:08Winds up being benched.
33:10Red Miller replaced the battered Craig Morton with Norris Weiss, number 14.
33:15Norris Weiss finishes the game.
33:17A writer named David Israel wrote a story, and his lead was, throughout his career,
33:22Craig Morton always dreamed of winning a Super Bowl for the Dallas Cowboys.
33:26And yesterday, he did.
33:29So, the young, the number one quarterback controversy of all time.
33:34Fans loved him.
33:36And now, the number one quarterback controversy of all time,
33:40Joe Montana versus Steve Young.
33:42Everyone wants to play, and I want to play desperately,
33:46and I'm going to try to drive everyone nuts until they give me a shot.
33:49There's never been a controversy like Joe Montana and Steve Young.
33:52You talk about Joe Montana and Steve Young,
33:54to me, that is like the ultimate quarterback controversy.
33:57Goes for the end zone!
33:59Touchdown, 49ers!
34:01Because you have a legend, one of the greatest, if not the greatest,
34:03quarterbacks of all time, and you have an up-and-coming great player.
34:06To the 20, the 50, the 10!
34:10He died!
34:11Touchdown, 49ers!
34:15The seeds for our number one quarterback controversy were planted in 1987,
34:20when Bill Walsh traded with Tampa Bay for a young quarterback named Steve.
34:25I just try to take the chances I have to learn about, you know, every game,
34:29and learn about the defenses, so that when I do get my chance, then I'll make the best of it.
34:33What got this controversy started was Montana's poor play in the 87 playoffs.
34:39And it's going to be intercepted!
34:41Joe Montana looking slower and slower as the age of the Viking pass rush begin to catch up with him.
34:45As shocking, if not more shocking, is that during that game,
34:48Montana was pulled from the game, and he was replaced by Steve Young.
34:53Do you think Steve Young is the quarterback of the Viking pass rush?
34:54Yes, he is. He's great.
34:57Not since the time of the Zodiac Killer had the Bay Area been under this kind of suspense.
35:04Our problem is we have two, and there's a quarterback controversy developing.
35:07We're going to have to select between Steve Young and Joe Montana.
35:10The shootout between Montana and Young had officially begun.
35:16How do I show?
35:17Why did Joe Montana become better at a time when maybe, you know, 86, 87, he's getting hurt,
35:24the Giants knocked him out of the playoff game.
35:28And at that time, people were saying, geez, maybe Montana's a little bit fragile.
35:32You want to talk to someone who wants to play? Come find me.
35:34Well, Joe Montana now, he's got a challenge for his job.
35:38And apparently those guys really didn't get along.
35:41They're not on a text message basis. He stays.
35:43It's an everybody to yip at your heels. You're going to be a lot better.
35:4839, 7, 4.
35:50Looks, looks, looks, throws.
35:523-0.
35:54Step-down throws.
35:57Eventually, look what it got him, but Super Bowl's in 88 and 89, but it was not friendly.
36:02Mayron looks back, looking for someone.
36:04They got him. They got him back to the 15-yard line.
36:07Montana was hurt in the NFC Championship game when Leonard Marshall knocked him out.
36:15And after that moment, Steve Young took over the team.
36:17It would take Montana two years to get healthy, but by then, the 49ers were Steve Young's team,
36:23even though not everyone was sold on him.
36:26Then he lost the ball.
36:28Joe Montana would be running in the first place.
36:31In 1992, Young led the 49ers to a 13-2 record until the final week of the regular season
36:41when a familiar face made an appearance.
36:44Here comes Joe Montana for the first time that entire season.
36:48What does he do?
36:50He drives the 49ers down the field not once, but twice on touchdown drives.
36:55Joe Montana looks great.
36:56On down to the throw, across the middle, Brent Jones, touchdown 49ers.
37:01He was then, I don't want to use the word benched, but he was, you know, regulated to the sidelines for the playoffs.
37:13And the fact that Joe Montana was suited up and healthy and standing on the sidelines in an NFC Championship game
37:19in San Francisco is almost too hard to believe.
37:23And maybe some people have actually, like, you know, just blocked it out.
37:27And after that, Joe was gone.
37:31The 49ers were now Steve Young's team.
37:35So like any good prospector, Montana staked his claim somewhere else.
37:40Touchdown, Montana Magic!
37:42Montana had a few years left as evidenced by his performance in Kansas City.
37:47When I think about his time in Kansas City,
37:50I think about the game when the 49ers came to Arrowhead and Montana took an inferior Kansas City team and beat his old team.
37:59He's, in many ways, one of the greatest as far as winning Super Bowls for, you know.
38:04I've got to get there again.
38:05It seemed that Steve Young would forever live in Joe Montana's shadow.
38:10That was until Super Bowl XXIX.
38:13Without a Super Bowl, we like you.
38:15You can hang around.
38:17But we don't love you, and we don't want you to stay too long.
38:19You have to win a Super Bowl in San Francisco.
38:21You always remember that classic scene at the end of the game where he's, you know,
38:30taking the imaginary monkey off his back.
38:33Somebody take the monkey off his back, please!
38:35That was an epic controversy.
38:40The likes of which we will not see again, I don't think.
38:42Two Hall of Fame quarterbacks in their primes.
38:45Young goes back to throw.
38:47Touchdown 49ers!
38:49Hands down.
38:50Hands down.
38:51I don't think there will ever be another one like that.
38:52A dynasty like that, where you had maybe the greatest quarterback of all time at the helm.
38:57Absolute surgeon on the football field, one of the all-time greats.
39:00And then giving that baton to another Hall of Fame quarterback.
39:04Young was never a fan of getting pulled.
39:07Steve Young doesn't get angry that often.
39:08So when I give you the big hook,
39:10But even fans of our list of top ten quarterback controversies found it, well, controversial.
39:19Number three is Van Brockman-Waterfield.
39:22Okay.
39:23Doug Flutie and Rob Johnson.
39:25Let me tell you.
39:26Aikman versus Walsh.
39:30I'm sorry.
39:31Rob Johnson was involved in a quarterback controversy.
39:35Well, I just thought back Craig Morton.
39:36It has to be top three.
39:37It is.
39:38Number two.
39:38All right.
39:39All right.
39:39All right.
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