Exiled Iranian opposition figure Reza Pahlavi urged the United States to support political change in Iran, saying his goal is not personal power but a democratic future chosen by the Iranian people. He said his mission is to help create conditions for a referendum that would allow citizens to elect their first truly democratic government. Pahlavi described himself as a “bridge” toward that transition rather than a future ruler, stressing he seeks no crown or title. His remarks come as tensions between Washington and Tehran rise, adding to debates over whether outside pressure should aim at negotiations or broader regime change in Iran.
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00:00I've told my compatriots I'm not running for office, I'm not running for a job, I'm
00:04not seeking a power or a title, I don't want to put a crown on my hand or be the
00:09next president.
00:10That has been my only focus.
00:12The Iranian people trust me in this leadership is because they know that I don't have any
00:17personal gain out of it.
00:18I'm not power hungry or ambitious to have anything for myself.
00:23Dedicating my entire life to the liberty of the Iranian people only because I think that
00:28as a nation with a proud history and culture and civilization, we deserve better than the
00:33crap that is ruling us right now.
00:35A few weeks ago in Davos, President Zelensky said, so much was said about protests in Iran,
00:43but they were drowned in blood.
00:45The world did not help the Iranian people enough.
00:51He warned that if such brutality is rewarded with survival, it sends a clear signal to
00:57every bully, kill enough people and you stay in power.
01:04In our meeting yesterday, we discussed that we must ensure that this is not the lesson history
01:11takes from Iran.
01:13Yet, the hour demands more, more than diplomatic scolding, more than kabuki theater.
01:21It is time to end the Islamic Republic.
01:25This is the demand echoing from the bloodshed of my compatriots, who are not asking us to
01:31fix the regime, but to help them bury it.
01:36As for the day after our victory, I have a clear plan for the transition to democracy.
01:42Millions of Iranians, inside and outside of Iran, are united around these four core principles.
01:50Iran's territorial integrity, individual liberties and equality of all citizens, separation of
01:58religion and state, and the Iranian people right to decide a democratic form of government.
02:04My compatriots have called upon me to help unify opposition forces and guide a peaceful, stable,
02:12and orderly transition.
02:15Through the Iran Prosperity Project, my team of experts have developed a plan for the first
02:21hundred days after the regime's collapse and the long-term reconstruction and stabilization
02:26of our country.
02:27It is backed by business leaders and provides a detailed roadmap for national recovery, restoring
02:35economic confidence and ensuring essential services continued undisrupted.
02:42A constitutional process would follow under international observation, allowing Iranians to determine their
02:50own destiny at long last.
02:52MR.
02:53Yes, hello.
02:54My name is Kamran Safiyarion from ZDF German television, Crown Prince Reza Pahlavi.
02:59President Trump said yesterday that a military intervention or regime change would be the best
03:05for Iran.
03:06He also endorsed a military intervention.
03:08At the same time, he wants to negotiate with the regime.
03:11What are your comments on that?
03:16Well, obviously, we all agree the fact that the best solution is regime change.
03:19We've been saying this for decades.
03:23Now, the regime has always tried to buy time, and I don't see any fast outcome in terms of
03:30– or any outcome for the negotiations.
03:32The problem is time.
03:34Every day that goes by, more Iranians are dying in Iran.
03:38So the intervention and a rapid intervention will only help save more lives and at the same
03:43time help us overcome this regime.
03:45Now, it can be said that a large part of the Iranian people are chanting your name.
03:51The slogan, Pahlavi returns, is clearly here in the streets of Iran in universities, factories
03:57and schools.
03:59Even at the funerals of those killed during the general revolutionary movement, your name
04:05is being chanted again.
04:07What's your message to them, to the people of Iran?
04:10Well, indeed, millions of Iranians chanted my name and called for my return.
04:15That humbles me and gives me a lot of responsibility at the same time to answer their call and to
04:23be the leader of this transition as they have asked for.
04:27And as I mentioned in my speech, anybody who agrees with those four core principles, irrespective
04:33of their political affiliation or viewpoints, can be part of this national struggle for freedom.
04:38The ultimate goal is for the transitional government to set the stage for the constitutional assembly
04:44where the entire future of Iran can be decided by means of Iranians electing their representatives
04:50to debate the issue, to choose the final form they want the system to have, for a constitution
04:57to be drafted, for that constitution to be presented to the nation as a project and people can by referendum
05:04either ratify it or send it back to that assembly.
05:08At the end of this process, once the constitution is approved and the nation votes in a referendum
05:14to adopt it, we will have the election of the first new parliament and the first new government
05:19of that future democracy.
05:21At that point, the temporary government will turn over control and power to the elected officials
05:27that the Iranian people would have selected for leading the country in the future.
05:31So some political groups have stated that in certain sections they do not agree with the emergency
05:37Facebook that your team has prepared. Are you prepared to discuss with them and hear their concerns
05:43and potentially make amendments?
05:45Look, this is an open debate. There has been time allowed for people to critique what's been proposed.
05:53In fact, a lot of input came from inside Iran, from various specialists addressing various parts of this project.
05:59So there has been a lot of inclusion of those statements.
06:03It's not going to be a closed book. It can always be improved, of course.
06:08What we are trying to do here is to come up with the best possible solutions to the problems we
06:12think the country needs
06:14to be addressed from any areas of energy, health care, economy, whatever it is.
06:19But in the first 100 days, most importantly during the transition, is to stabilize the country, stabilize the economy,
06:25make sure that that issue is taken care of, and most importantly, of course, security.
06:30And as you know, part of the reason my strategy has always been to call for maximum defections
06:35is to make sure that unlike what happened in Iraq after Saddam Hussein, we don't have a failed state and
06:41we don't have chaos.
06:42And a lot of the elements that can be part of the solution are the kind of people who have
06:47the guns in their hands
06:48that can now join with the people as opposed to be used by the regime against its own population.
06:53In that sense, we can have a better success in a smoother transition and including those people to be part
07:00of the solution,
07:01except for the people who are criminally responsible and have the blood of people on their hand,
07:05who will have to account in a court of law and be answerable for their crimes.
07:14Thank you, Your Royal Highness.
07:16Sam Dagger with Bloomberg News.
07:18I'm the senior Middle East reporter based in Dubai.
07:21So I have a couple of questions. I'll keep them brief.
07:24First of all, what's your view on the current crackdown on reformists?
07:28And I know you see them as members of the current regime, but do you also see them as possible
07:33allies, these reformists?
07:35And my second question is, where does your movement obtain its funding from at the moment? Thank you.
07:44Again, those four core principles defines who can be on this right and who disqualifies himself or herself from it.
07:56I repeat, Iran's territorial integrity, separation of church from state, equality of all citizens under the law and individual liberties,
08:06and the democratic process, which is that parliamentary process.
08:09If yesterday reformers today decide that it's no use, we better join with the people and have the same demands,
08:16they're welcome to join us.
08:18It's as simple as that.
08:19As long as, again, they are not criminally implicated in the murder of their own citizens,
08:25because that's a different story and they will have to account for it.
08:31All the funding that we receive is private donation and private sector helping and Iranian people contributing.
08:36I have yet to receive a penny of government support, or any government for that matter.
08:45You mentioned the protests here today in Munich.
08:48What can you tell us about protests that are ongoing in Iran right now?
08:52How big are they?
08:53And is this still something you can ask of people?
08:55Is this dangerous to go on the streets?
08:57Well, as you saw the bravery and courage of my compatriots when they came to the streets and they were
09:03only met with this brutal,
09:05genocidal level, industrial level massacre.
09:08And, of course, people have to retreat under the circumstances, but they still continue chanting.
09:13The last few nights, whoever has followed social media in Iran and whatever information trickled out,
09:19people are still out there chanting, people are still out there resisting.
09:22The regime, unfortunately, continues its campaign of imprisonment.
09:28There are many people incarcerated in Iran, God knows where.
09:31Over 40,000 of them, we understand.
09:33They continue to threaten and harm and even, in some cases, execute hospital workers and nurses.
09:42They've done things, as we speak, that continues, but despite all of that, people are resisting.
09:47Now, again, the importance of a strike to neutralize the regime forces of repression is the element that could get
09:57people back into the streets to continue their struggle.
09:59That's the element that pretty much is at stake right now, which is why Iranians in Iran and abroad are
10:06waiting impatiently that this happens faster and sooner rather than delaying it.
10:13Because, as I said, I don't think these negotiations will amount to anything.
10:17The regime is simply buying time yet again, but every day that goes by, more people could die.
10:22That's how important an intervention is to equalize the playing field for us.
10:33Luc André for the French newspaper Opinion.
10:37You evoked the option of a constitutional monarchy as an option.
10:42How can it be a realistic option if you don't acknowledge what went wrong with the previous monarchy?
10:49Are we talking about the future?
10:51Yes.
10:52So why are you talking about the past?
10:54Maybe it makes a difference for people that maybe continue these options.
10:57We're talking about the future.
10:58And the Iranian people are smart enough to understand that in any democratic exercise, elimination of options is not the
11:06way to go.
11:08Democracy is not about exclusion.
11:10It's about inclusion.
11:11Unless you are not in conformity with democratic principles.
11:15So as long as you are coherent with democratic principles, there are multiple options on the table.
11:21Why should we eliminate one option all of a sudden?
11:24Because if you want to go by precedence, there may be many bad monarchies as there are many bad republics.
11:31And there are also good models of republics and good models of constitutional monarchies.
11:34Are they not?
11:36So if you want to compare apples to apples, great.
11:39And oranges to oranges, great.
11:40But we're not here to compare apples to oranges.
11:46Yes.
11:47Thank you very much.
11:48Professor Nagy from the BBC's Persian television.
11:51I just wondered, you said your compatriots have called on you to lead this transition period.
11:59But that's obviously not the case.
12:01There are a lot of people who don't support you within Iran and outside Iran.
12:07My question is, why have you not been able to unify these people?
12:13Why is it that you're not the voice of all of the Iranian people?
12:19Why is it that Western countries are not supporting you or endorsing you as the voice of the Iranian
12:29opposition?
12:29Thank you very much.
12:31Well, this is a very typical question I expect from the network that you represent.
12:37Look, you say it's not true.
12:40You tell me, have you heard any other names called in Iran other than mine?
12:44There have been other people who have not called your names.
12:47But you had your chance, you asked a question.
12:50I'm answering now.
12:51Sure, please do.
12:51The fact is, they called my name.
12:54Is my name written on the walls there?
12:56It is me that they chose to trust to lead this movement.
13:00I'm not saying that I have 100% of people on my side.
13:04Of course, I have my enemies.
13:05And there are obviously elements that do not adhere to those four core principles.
13:10You might have separatists.
13:12You might have pro-regime reformists.
13:14You might have groups like the MEK.
13:17Certainly, they are not my friends and I do not represent them.
13:21Of course, I don't represent them because they are not adhering to the principles that
13:24I described.
13:25But all those who are prescribed to the first principle, we are together.
13:30And among them, you will find a quite diverse number of people.
13:33We have Republicans as we have monarchies.
13:36We have people on the left, on the center, on the right.
13:39We have athletes.
13:40We have artists.
13:41We have representatives of ethnic communities, religious minorities.
13:45Many of them were, in fact, in this very city in Munich when we had the last gathering
13:49a few months ago and you will see a lot of them present, in fact, today in the demonstrations
13:57that are set for Munich that will be speaking to the crowd and there will be, in fact, quite
14:02a diverse array of people.
14:04If you want proof, go and check it out and you'll see that unlike your premise, in fact,
14:08it is quite diversified and a lot of people are supporting and they're supporting my leadership.
14:13Many of them understand that I'm a bridge to that destination.
14:16They support me today, even though tomorrow they may vote for their preferred system of
14:21government.
14:21And I'm not here to advocate for monarchy or a republic.
14:25As a matter of fact, I told them, as an honest broker, I'm remaining above the fray.
14:31My position is neutral towards the outcome.
14:34Let the Iranian people, by the ballot box, determine their majority wish for the ultimate
14:39system they want to have.
14:41And if we all respect the democratic process, we should also respect the ballot box and the
14:46result of that free election.
14:48That's all I'm asking for.
14:49Not just Iranian people, but for the international community, particularly democratic society,
14:55to value.
14:55Because this is something that they have in their own countries.
14:58That's exactly what we want to have in our own country as well.
15:01And the Western countries?
15:03That's what I said.
15:04Free democracies, first and foremost.
15:07Why are they endorsement?
15:08Because I'm not asking for an endorsement.
15:11I'm not asking for a personal endorsement.
15:13I'm asking them to support Iranian people and back them on their right to determine their
15:19own future.
15:20As opposed to say, we are still going to side with the regime and try to appease it, which
15:26has never given the people an actual chance for true and meaningful elections.
15:31Because there's no such thing in Iran as free elections or the ballot box.
15:35It's a mockery of democracy.
15:38It's shameful to pretend that there's actual elections in Iran.
15:42Nobody, they will laugh at you if you were to suggest that to any Iranians inside Iran.
15:46Some people in the outside world may be fooled, but you know, you cannot fool all of the people
15:50all of the time.
15:51At some point, it's going to blow in their face.
15:55I encourage you to study, to take a look at it.
15:58It is quite a comprehensive outline of every aspect of things that need to be addressed
16:04and anticipated.
16:05So indeed, we are able to manage as much as we can.
16:09All the areas that, if not addressed properly, could, in fact, bring us to a situation of
16:17having that vacuum as we talked about.
16:19But there's not going to be any vacuum for the simple reason that, again, the majority
16:24of the people currently in a position in government offices or various state bureaucracies will
16:32remain in place.
16:33We're not asking people to go home and quit their jobs.
16:36So we have to be able to manage this transition, understanding that the majority of these elements
16:41will be in place as far as the civil bureaucracies goes.
16:43So the functioning of the state and government continues while the interim government, based
16:50on that proposal that we have, will address all of these issues.
16:54In fact, even before we have a normal state of a democratic system, we have various components
16:59that are part of it.
17:01The executive part of it, which is the transitional government, is doing what a sort of transitional
17:07government would do.
17:08But you also have a legislative body, which is some kind of a councilor and assembly, where
17:13people will be there and supervising what's happening.
17:15We even have a completely independent legal team that will be addressing all the legal issues.
17:21So we already are incorporating, even in the transition phase, some kind of a checks and
17:26balance, precisely to make sure that we're not leaving any stone uncovered.
17:31And speaking of the legal part, it's very important because I think, especially after this genocide,
17:36there's a lot of fact-finding that needs to be done.
17:39But we have had various models that we are implementing in the case of the Iran scenario,
17:43in terms of transitional justice, in terms of truth and reconciliation, what to do with
17:48the remnants of the regime, those who are criminally responsible.
17:52All of these issues are at play.
17:53The point is to make sure that we have a day of reckoning as far as people asking for justice.
18:01We are also talking about how to make sure that the mechanism of transition ensures a
18:07stable transition.
18:08And that's where we incorporate all the defectors that join us, including those that come from
18:13the military and paramilitary branches.
18:14I think all of these are the elements that will avoid the possibility of a vacuum.
18:21It is precisely a lesson learned from other failed regime change scenarios that we've seen
18:26recently, whether in Iraq or in Libya, for instance.
18:29And the case of Iran is very different from those countries, number one.
18:32And we also have quite a number of institutions within Iran, beyond the political organization,
18:39civil society, and many others that will be part of this entire mechanism.
18:43So I urge you to take a look at that plan.
18:46And I'm sure you will find a lot of answers to your question there.
18:57Thanks, Saza Abashidze, Real Politica, Georgia, from Georgia, based in Brussels nowadays.
19:01So my question is, you addressed to the Western countries for their support and for their action,
19:07but what do you think about the neighboring countries of Iran?
19:09Do they really support the regime change, or do they prefer their own calculations?
19:14And maybe for that reason, they are for status quo and not for the changes?
19:18And also, do you have any communication with the leaders of maybe Qatar, Turkey, and some
19:23other regional countries?
19:25Thanks.
19:26I think all of our regional neighbors understand the consequences since the advent of this regime,
19:32and the kind of negative impact it has had on them.
19:38One of the biggest issues that has been the root cause of regional instability is basically
19:45the radical Islamic forces, some of them on the Sunni side from the Muslim Brotherhood,
19:51some of them from the Iranian regime from the Shiite side of it, and the way it has been impacting
19:56our region, and beyond that, Europe and the rest of the world.
20:00And this is the root cause of the problem in the region, not to mention issues of belligerence
20:06or existential threat, let's say, to Israelis or the Houthis that are disrupting issues
20:13and are targeting other countries in the region.
20:17It's all somehow tied to this regime.
20:20Once we have a different kind of system in Iran, one that is committed to peace, to work
20:25with their neighbors on a friendly basis, it is definitely something that they will welcome.
20:30The certainty of whether it will happen or not may determine how aggressive they are in
20:35actually declaring it.
20:37They may not say it openly because they are not quite sure if it's going to really get there,
20:41but the minute it's out there, I'm sure that you will hear them in a much more pronounced way say
20:48so.
20:49And the level of information that I gather in conversation that I have indicates that
20:54everybody is waiting for that to happen because they know at the end of the day
20:58this regime cannot be trusted.
21:00This regime has only one purpose, it's to export this ideology.
21:04It is a threat to its own people.
21:07If it's not going to even, you know, not harm its own citizenry,
21:11how could they possibly not feel threatened by the continued existence of this regime?
21:15So I think at the end of the day everybody understands, in the region I mean,
21:20and I think the rest of the world is beginning to find out more and more,
21:23that the only way to eliminate all the problems at once is for this regime to be no longer there.
21:28And instead have a country where its people who yearn to be back in the free world,
21:33who yearn to be reconnected to the free world, will prove that unlike this regime,
21:38there are peacemakers and they believe in stability first and foremost,
21:41which is the obvious immediate interest of our regional neighbors.
21:46Okay.
21:47I'm just going to move the graph here.
21:49And then you call Times.
21:51You can wait for the whole time.
21:58Hi, my name is John Mooney.
21:59I'm a journalist with the Sunday Times.
22:01There's two questions I'd like to ask you.
22:04How important is the Iranian shadow fleet to propping up the regime in terms of raising finance for it?
22:11And secondly, a number of these actors who run these ships,
22:15we're involved in the investigation into this,
22:17are criminal elements that are sheltering in places like Dubai,
22:21and talking about the Kinnan cartel and groups like it.
22:24What is your message to, number one, can you outline the importance of the shadow fleet in terms of finance
22:30generation?
22:32And secondly, countries that are protecting some of these criminal actors involved in this,
22:37like the United Arab Emirates, what should they do?
22:41Should they remove these people from their jurisdictions?
22:44Well, again, that's part of the entire problem.
22:48The establishment of an era where you let certain things normalize in terms of criminal behavior,
22:56or most importantly, the reason this regime continues to exist,
22:59because partly it can still afford to pay the salaries of the mercenaries, or it's a brutal force.
23:05One way to weaken the regime even further is to impose more restrictions so that their source of revenue is
23:11cut off,
23:12so they can no longer sustain their own elements.
23:15The regime is quite weak. It's on the version of collapse.
23:19They will try anything to circumvent sanctions or what have you.
23:25There's nothing new to it. Everybody knows about that.
23:28Now, if there are certain countries in cahoots with them,
23:31they'll have to address that in terms of how they justify it legally or not.
23:37But that's a challenge for many governments in the world that are monitoring that to impose.
23:42You know, we have our fight to fight as Iranians to liberate themselves.
23:46We don't have time to worry about which country is doing what legally or not.
23:49But that's, I think, the world community that has to look into those things.
23:53So ultimately, the bottom line is that any source of revenue to the regime
23:58will contribute to its ability to sustain itself a little bit longer, but at the end it will fall.
24:04So the more we expedite its downfall, the quicker we'll be out of this mess,
24:08and not to have worry about all the fringe consequences of its continued existence
24:13and its impact in a negative way regionally.
24:19Eric Roush, Epoch Times, Your Excellency.
24:22Why do you think a strong Iran, who is an ally to European countries,
24:28is overall beneficial for Middle Eastern and Europeans?
24:35Well, look at it this way.
24:37We have now a possibility of even more migration to Europe as a result of any continuation of the status
24:45quo.
24:45Europe is already saturated and has a big problem when it comes to immigration.
24:49But more important than that even is the energy dependence that you have.
24:53A free Iran that will be able to supply Europe with its energy needs
24:57will certainly be an alternative to the only source that you have right now.
25:02And when you think of it, you are thinking of Russia, of course,
25:04and the way that plays into the equation and Europe not only security but also economic interest.
25:11Not to mention all the economic opportunities that you have been deprived of
25:16or there are sanctions currently that makes it impossible to do business with Iran.
25:20So it's lose-lose for Europeans and Iranians.
25:23But a free Iran and a strong Iran will not only alleviate that problem,
25:27but it will also permit to have a much more stable strategic partnership with a country
25:32that can provide you in many forms and ways with disabilities.
25:36And not to mention the fact that the Iranian diaspora,
25:39many of whom are waiting to be able to go back home and help,
25:42many of them are today citizens of various European countries that are best ambassadors to your countries,
25:48and they can create so much more connection and access to Iran that would have been possible 50 years ago.
25:53So all of these are the plus elements of a change in Iran,
25:56and I think it's a win-win for both us as a country and also Europe
26:01and what it has to gain as a result of a change of politics in Iran.
26:09Topias Maternoff, the German newspaper Süddeutsche Zeitung.
26:13How do you see your role after the regime would collapse?
26:17You always mention that you see yourself as a transitional figure.
26:21If this transition would run smoothly, how do you see your role?
26:24And just a second question, a fact check.
26:27I understood you correctly that you will be talking this afternoon at the demonstration?
26:32We haven't decided that yet.
26:34But to your question, look, from the day I started this struggle,
26:42my sole aim was to see the day where the Iranian people will finally be able to elect their future
26:49democratic government.
26:51The day that happens, I consider that the end of my political mission in life.
26:55I've told my compatriots I'm not running for office, I'm not running for a job,
27:00I'm not seeking a power or a title.
27:02I don't want to put a crown on my hand or be the next president.
27:06That has been my only focus.
27:08And I think part of the reason the Iranian people trust me in this leadership
27:12is because they know that I don't have any personal gain out of it.
27:16I'm not power hungry or ambitious to have anything for myself.
27:20I don't want anything in exchange.
27:22But I've spent my entire life dedicating my entire life to the liberty of the Iranian people
27:28only because I think that as a nation with a proud history and culture and civilization,
27:34we deserve better than the crap that is ruling us right now.
27:37That's why I'm in it.
27:39And I will deliver on my promise.
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