00:00there was no weakness in my penguin pecker no there wasn't there wasn't there was no weakness
00:04which we never filmed yeah oh yeah it was there man it was there anatomic i was fully anatomically
00:13correct
00:27colin i want to know what does oz feel about the nickname the penguin oh not a fan yeah not
00:34a fan
00:34i mean it's never been used in any way but a derogatory way you know anyone that uses it
00:39whether it's michael kelly's johnny veedy or whoever it may be in the show they're using it to put him
00:44down and he's somebody that's he's been put down a lot in his life and he's been kind of pushed
00:49outside of the communal experience and and he's been made feel like a quote-unquote cripple he's
00:55been called a cripple he's been laughed at so it's something that he doesn't truck with at all matt
00:59please let swearing and f-bombs be part of your script for batman part two it's necessary
01:05and turns them into poetry please you know there's i mean isn't that what's so exciting on the show to
01:11really be able to be unleashed i will say we had uh happy halloween uh from alex ferns which is
01:18that
01:18was a very well delivered line too he did it great yeah uh and so you know we're as unleashed
01:26as we can
01:26be in the movies uh in pg-13 but uh it is really exciting to be able to hear oz's
01:32voice in full
01:33flower i mean he gets very poetic with his use of profanity which is also fun for us to be
01:39able to do
01:39really focus in on in the movie exploration with rob's character the batman to be in a certain tonal
01:45lane but then to also then shift gears and go into you know our first series with the penguin of
01:51you know
01:51obviously a very well-known marquee character um played by the great colin farrell and go into
01:57a different lane and that's creatively really um exciting and i think it's fun for the fans too
02:03oh i didn't mean to interrupt sofia i thought you were still at uh arkham
02:15no i've been rehabilitated
02:18i spent a year with oz yeah i wouldn't really see colin out of makeup i i think i've seen
02:24colin out
02:24of makeup three times okay and it was all in like pre-production it's very strange when i hear his
02:30voice
02:31it really flips me out and and certainly when i see him in his like real form because i associate
02:36those eyes and that voice with someone who i spent a year with right who is not real but feels
02:42like a person i know better that like it's so hard to describe your brain is telling you the person
02:50you know is the person who your brain sees that you're talking to now deep down i know that it's
02:55colin but on the surface it's like a magic trick on the surface level it feels like that's what's
02:59really happening there would be times where like i wouldn't you know it isn't colin farrell it was a
03:05different person and it was a different he was not uh that when he was in uh you know in
03:11between
03:11takes he stayed he stayed in the voice and stayed in the the the physicality of it and i like
03:18would
03:18get worried about his leg you know just like like my brain would be like no he's he's i would
03:25forget
03:25that he didn't actually have a disability yes i you know never saw him without it for the whole time
03:33that we were working together and i never needed to sort of handle the nervousness that somebody might
03:38have when you're working with somebody who a movie star who you are such a huge fan of so i
03:44never had
03:45to think about the colin farrellness of it all life is just a dream you promised me oswald i know
03:53that
03:53i deserve that life i'm working on it knowing that people haven't seen it what's the one word you would
03:59use to describe francis's relationship with oz weaponized that made you happy that's great that's
04:11fantastic yes and very true i'm at times desperate for them to heal their wounds or evolve out of you
04:18know some of this psychological dysfunction but i'm also i'm entertained by it at moments i'm horrified
04:24by it at moments it's true i know they're delightful and they're and it's heartbreaking and it's
04:29wrenching you're like whoa that is and it's demented you're going weaponized is a great word it's like
04:34and that was the thing you know from the beginning what we're talking about is the idea of if we
04:38wanted
04:38to do this gangster tale that it's all about you know in a dark american dream story when you're doing
04:43a gangster tale it's always about what's driving the character and what's creating the void within that
04:49character that makes them be willing to go at any lengths to get what they want to grasp at power
04:54at money at something to look for recognition and so that's why that relationship is so key because
04:59she's the answer their relationship and their past is the answer to that hole those broken places in oz
05:06and the broken places that they both share it's really it's very messed up it's it's quite something
05:11matt is oz a smart guy or is he oh super smart like colin i think he's super bright i
05:18mean
05:19he is fast on his feet he's like jazz he can respond in the moment and he is i think
05:24he has
05:24got an exceptional intelligence absolutely i mean i think he um that's the thing i think he's easily
05:30underestimated and that was the that was the initial sort of idea for him in the movie was this
05:36idea that here's this character that we know becomes the kingpin who when batman first encounters
05:41him and he sort of is threatening him oz says back to him you better watch it you know my
05:48reputation
05:48yeah i do do you and the idea is that people think he's a joke but he's no joke as
05:55we see in the
05:56series there because i hustle
06:05not that i'm complaining mike i need to ask you about the creation of oz's feet i only want to
06:10talk
06:10about oz's feet for if we could um i think it's the first time in live action that we actually
06:16get
06:16to see the feet can you elaborate on the design some of the conversations you had about them well
06:20if you think of uh the namesake penguin i mean you think immediately of a shape of a body you
06:25think of
06:25the way they walk and the way their faces and you know their their whole it's part of them you
06:31know um
06:32so you can't call a villain the penguin without having something that inspires why so i think in the
06:40show we figure out why what's creating his walk what's creating part of why they call him the
06:47penguin so we were looking at references that were kind of like oh you know i i actually thought it
06:52was
06:52really interesting that it was like right like this talks about class just in the fact that this person
06:57is a person that couldn't have gotten the surgeries that you would need for that like we're having a
07:03conversation even if we're just talking about it existing in a way it's not a fantasy birdfoot you
07:09know it's something that may resemble something non-human or something that is very human you know
07:16um a a weakness you know something that may inspire why he does certain things or may inspire
07:23uh you know his persona and what what why people call him a certain thing so uh it was interesting
07:30to
07:30do there was no weakness in my penguin pecker no there wasn't there wasn't there was no weakness
07:34which we never filmed yeah oh yeah it was there man it was there anatomically i was fully anatomically
07:40correct listen sal carmine falcon is dead and i'm here now i'll be calling the shots
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