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All the Buzz: The Revolutionary Power of Men's Hair Styles
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00:00a little app called tiktok right yeah i mean i've been getting my news my beauty my fashion
00:05my boys on tiktok but anyway enough about that tiktok is also raving about men and their
00:12expression through their hairstyles whether they're locked dyed curled a crisp fade there's
00:19no question that hairstyles are an extension of their identity branding and their self-expression
00:24in this conversation each panelist talks about finding keeping and tapping into their own
00:29signature style born and raised in louisiana avon dugas has a record-breaking beautiful crown oh
00:36yes baby her five-foot afro is the largest on a living person undeniably guinness world record
00:42gives her this title three times y'all want to see a guinness world record holder measuring at 10
00:48inches tall 11 inches wide and 5.5 in circumference eat please welcome the woman with the greatest
00:56afro in the world it's avon dugas look at that hair honey hello how y'all doing hey
01:10now y'all could do better than that i know it's friday and it's just getting started but hey
01:18all right thank you okay love is in the hair fashion fashion is not our only accessory our hair is a
01:30direct reflection of who we are and how we express ourselves hair expressions and goals are not hard
01:36to achieve it just takes consistency and confidence in your pursuit before we dive into discussion let's
01:44talk about the panelists we got some good panelists y'all they cute too okay a sixth generation native
01:54of native of the lower ninth ward gladney has performed and traveled professionally since the
02:01age of 12 a wealth of experience an infectious spirit and his iconic gladney bow hairstyle makes
02:09gladney a must-see performer a grammy nominated multi-instrumentalist and band leader gladney has
02:17performed internationally with a range of artists including jonathan batiste the marcellus family george
02:25duke solange preservation hall irma thomas dr john and jake shears of the scissor sisters
02:33gladney come on out
02:39all right now hey indeed
02:44terence baker is a model influencer and actor from new orleans inspired by his family and the rich culture
02:55of his hometown he brings heart and soul to every project his passions include fashion self-empowerment
03:03entrepreneurship and uplifting the youth that's a good one his biggest goal is to inspire the youth of
03:10new orleans and to become the best version of themselves and know they can accomplish any and
03:15everything they set their mind to terence come on out
03:19you all could do better than that i told y'all that's that's it thank you thank you give it up
03:33avers anderson is an award-nominated multifaceted creative actor singer visual artist renaissance man
03:41most recently seen on stage in the lead role of terrell alvin mccraney's choir boy he is also a featured singer
03:49artist of fame youtube vocal coach cheryl porter with over one million views avers come on
03:56so first off i want to thank y'all for being here with us today and blessing us with y'all crown
04:08can y'all each take a turn showing us your hair front to back please whoever wants to go first show
04:15off your hair show off your hair
04:16y'all give him a hand y'all be nice it takes a lot to get up here y'all show him some love
04:26go ahead gladney
04:31yes
04:35yes we love it
04:42okay so these questions are for everyone i'll let y'all answer in the order y'all want
04:52so all of you guys hair journey began when you were young tell me how you embarked on your hair
04:59journey because i know how i did mine but y'all tell me how y'all did yours
05:03yeah well for me and i think it's probably true for most black boys my hair journey began in the
05:08barber shop the barber shop is sacred uh ritual space uh that i begin to learn about my hair identity
05:17and begin to understand what it meant what it meant for me to beautify myself right as a male
05:25okay okay okay terence gladney hello which one well much like avra said uh same for me definitely
05:33started in the barber shop okay and at some point my mama realized that i i was gonna keep trying to
05:39grow my hair out so she was like all right well we're gonna let your sister braid it or something
05:44and we know that whole whole um thing yeah right braids and everything ultimately i realized i
05:51wanted long hair but i didn't know how right to get it so i had to lock up and the rest was history
05:59okay okay i can dig it terrence um to be honest i'm gonna keep it short i can't hear you i said to
06:05be honest i'm gonna keep it short i'm just doing me like you know i'm just being me terrence said he's
06:11just doing him he's just being me i think as we all are we're naturally doing ourselves you know
06:15something that was held back for a long time so now it's time for us to be us yes indeed so
06:22anybody can answer this what are your favorite hair products and what's your favorite go-to
06:28collection or go-to product well for me and i think it may also be true for most black hair
06:34it sometimes it's whatever it is working at the moment so i have a plethora of all sorts of products
06:41okay that range from aunt jackie's to as i am product okay i see shea moisture over there i've
06:47certainly used their product yes and uh it's still unfolding so tomorrow it may be something else yeah
06:53i feel like as time goes on you just find different stuff that works you know i would like to try like
06:59i don't have my own products but i like to try and stick to one thing but it's hard you know there's
07:04all of these different things we can try compared to a long time ago when we didn't have products to
07:09try so i get it absolutely i get it can we just take a moment to acknowledge this incredible crown
07:15yeah like thank you you we need a whole little wrap around for you real quick can we do that
07:20can we yes yes yeah because it's giving you should definitely have your moment
07:30thank you what a crown thank you so to answer your question okay um currently
07:38i can't leave home without my my um edge control by cream of nature yeah we need that right now i'm
07:46currently using a lock gel by nap star and that's nap with two p's okay um but like you said it's
07:54really about what we got at the moment what we got access to because it changes okay but those are like
08:00the definites for me okay and a nice mousse from um vitriol from who up from vitriol oh okay yeah okay
08:09okay um product wise i'm gonna use the shade moisturizer right now which one say moisturizer
08:16oh shade moisture okay yeah other than it okay basically say moisture needs to call you they need
08:21to come find me now you say moisture hello can we can we say endorsement okay so fellas
08:29because gladdening i know for you with the the gladdening bow um your most iconic look okay so
08:36as far as this look how did you come up with it so the year was 2017 okay and i'm um i'm sitting
08:46there with my hairdresser at the time leland and i said you know i want to do a boat okay let's figure
08:51out how we're gonna do a boat all right and we went through the process you know probably four or
08:56five different ones over a year and ultimately we came up with this repeatable method so since then
09:03i've been through a few other hairdressers doing the same boat now it's me and my partner doing it
09:08ourselves but it was yeah it came it started with a vision and you know collaboration made it happen
09:17i get it i get it same question how'd you come up with your hairstyle i came up with my hairstyle you
09:23like to wear like that you're known for like do you have a hairstyle you're known for yeah i'm known
09:27for the for the bun i got today the man bun and how i came up with ladies right how i came up with
09:34it was just a bad hair day like uh yeah yeah you know and uh it turned into something bigger than
09:40what it was so right i mean it's like my signature hairstyle okay but i get that because my bun even
09:46though i wear an afro is my signature hairstyle because we live in louisiana and it's hot right exactly
09:51that part avers you know the truth is i could not hear you very well so could you repeat that
09:59question i said your most iconic hairstyle like what's your favorite hairstyle is your is it your
10:03wash and go because it's poppy i would say that this might be my favorite hairstyle this is actually
10:08really recent so i've had my hair i've worn my hair uh long for okay probably the last decade um but
10:16maybe three weeks ago actually i cut it into with the bangs and the foot and everything i like it
10:20um and i'm very very into it i've definitely been feeling myself recently okay okay so let me ask you
10:29fellas this do any of you have a favorite hair icon i'm ready then whoop whoop you can go because you
10:37ain't going first yet so i don't take it i would just have to say myself like i know that's right you
10:41know i'm about to keep it real exactly okay but i'm inspired by like all black hair yeah yeah as a
10:49culture okay so yeah myself all right i can dig it okay gladney avers anybody wants to answer well
10:59there's so much black hair so much good black right right legit and um i mean aside from you now oh
11:05thank you thank you come on it's award-winning but my uh favorite hot hair icon would be janelle
11:12monet now you know she's gone through many hair transformations but that that monet pompadour
11:20yeah you know yeah that iconic monet inspired the gladi boat you know so that's for me yeah well other
11:28than what is probably most predictable uh and that is prince being my hair yeah okay so when i saw you
11:35you reminded me of prince sure uh-huh i'll take that i had a question of him when i was little
11:39so i was like oh he cute all right look that is certainly a compliment so i'll take that he's
11:43definitely my hair icon and the other i would say happens to be here today my dad uh who has a similar
11:49hair texture to me so as a kid growing up i looked to him as a model for like what my hair could be and
11:54right would grow from my scalp and how i could style it um so i would say that my dad is my my and look
12:01i feel you on that because my mama people always ask me like who inspired your afro it was my mama
12:06like they call out all these other celebrities and i'm like no there was a picture of my mom
12:10absolutely and it was an afro and i loved it and she looked so pretty and she didn't have on any makeup
12:15and she was perfect well as far as i'm concerned and i was like when i finally did decide to go natural
12:22like 24 years ago i was like oh i can't wait to wear my hair like my mama so it was my mama it wasn't
12:28anybody else it was my mama now don't get me wrong seeing other afros i always like that look because
12:34you know it's more i mean it stands up on it i mean our hair really is magical you know it does so
12:40many things i like the afro you know thank you so you know the afro thing the fact that it just stands
12:47up and it just marbles in its own greatness you can't beat that you know so it's my mama for me so i
12:53get you know interestingly if i could just mention speaking of afros because i have a softer hair
12:58texture my hair doesn't hold an afro as well and my dad speaking of him happened to tell me a story
13:04this morning that when afros were particularly in during the 70s that he would wash his hair with
13:11tide detergent in order to get a coarser texture to make it pretty oh it's just so interesting what
13:17black people have to do to their hair and have to put our hair through in order to like execute these
13:22trends okay now don't y'all go wash your hair with tide no don't do it it's not a it's not a don't do
13:27that there's there's so many other things out there you can do don't don't i know my mama told
13:31me she used to roll her hair with a paper bag they would tear pieces of paper bag and then twist it
13:38and then roll it you remember that you remember that we got a witness with a paper bag you can set
13:45your hair because basically your hair sets on anything as long as it's wrapped around it
13:49so they were and my grandma did it for me one time she she rolled it up for me this was years
13:54ago before i went natural and sure enough it was curly well black people are the most innovative and
13:59creative people so i'm not surprised yes we figure out how to get what it is we need even with the
14:05littlest of anything you know that's what makes us so beautiful okay so let's talk about trends
14:13okay so as far as celebrities and everyday hair trends who are y'all liking right now i'm glad they
14:18already know you're gonna say janelle monique i said who are your favorite like celebrities right
14:24now as far as hair trends myself oh i know that's right and i'm gonna be real at this point i don't
14:30follow trends i set them exactly so exactly you know it's the gladi bow or it's a cute little
14:37yes ponytail thing but exactly yourself think about bow exactly and that's how i feel you you don't follow
14:45trends you set them you know go ahead go ahead terrence i'm just like him like uh myself like
14:51i really don't try to follow trends right right um but i mean i do uh like like the twist outs yeah and
14:59the cornrows and of course the man bun right um but nah i really like he said myself yeah yeah and i mean
15:08it's one of those things where you have to be creative you know because there's so much that can be done
15:12with our hair i mean it's just the the styles are endless because i i used to do all kind of stuff
15:18to my hair but i'm older and tired so no okay ayrus what you got i guess i'm gonna echo uh with the rest
15:26of the the panel has said and that is to say that like there are no trends specifically that i'm like
15:31interested in following i do try and be intentional however about it's wearing my hair in ways that are
15:37expressive and intentional about conveying what it is that i'm feeling and who i am and so right that's
15:44the trend for me you know right yeah and and this is one of the things that i think is so funny that
15:49i realized because you know you do a hairstyle it's like oh i'm doing this and ain't nobody else and then
15:54i go back and watch like um i think it was what something it was from the 70s and you see somebody
15:59with your hairstyle and you're like oh nothing new under the sun then they've done that so it's like but
16:03you know you bring it back you bring it back like you know but again just staying creative playing
16:09with your hair doing and then as long as you loving it we really don't care what anybody else thinks
16:14right that's exactly right okay so okay avers as a multi-faceted man immersed in many different roles
16:24where do you find your power in your hair where and how do you find your power in your hair
16:29well i believe like our ancestors believed that our hair is like our antenna to god yes and so that
16:39spiritual component for me is what i carry every day so i know that when i walk into a room wearing
16:45my crown right that it's power there yes and i show up with the fullness of that in whatever room that
16:51i'm in right and frankly when my hair is down you can't tell me nothing you know so yes so that is
16:58the power that i find in my hair okay so fellas um where and how do you find power in your hair
17:08give it to me for me my hair um so most of my work is is music related okay so it's not often that i'm
17:17able to flex these other creative muscles or express myself in these other ways okay so the power i i find
17:25it's just in the fact that i came up with something that nobody else had done before exactly exactly
17:30and that's a beautiful thing yeah legit i'll be in the in the grocery store and um one time there was
17:35this woman who has been like 70 something years old she stopped me and she said you know all these
17:41years i see all this mess that people be putting in their heads right but i ain't never seen that
17:45before exactly that was confirmation for me i was like all right well i love cool that's enough if i
17:51okay one hairstyle i'm good exactly especially when it's from someone older because you know
17:56it's genuine you know what i'm saying so terrence where do you find power where and how do you find
18:01power in your hair um my hair um it's like my my best i guess you know it's what it's what attracts
18:11people uh-huh you know um an open door they connect with people open doors for me yes um it actually
18:17starts conversations make people want to know who i am right i do um and like i say it just
18:25it just opened up a lot of doors opportunities for me and and make you know it helped me meet people
18:35okay i get that and i understand that because i know for me when i went natural i went natural just
18:40because i questioned why was i permanently straightened my hair i was like my grandma can
18:45always straighten my hair but to permanently straighten it i felt like it was like a every
18:49four to six week nose job in my opinion i was just like permanent for who like why who am i making
18:55comfortable and so you know i went natural and it's one of those things where i remember the first time
19:01i wore an afro the first so okay so the first time i wore an afro me and my t-darla went to the french
19:06quarters so i put i didn't know how to do it because i couldn't get my mom on the phone so i put my hair in
19:11this girl and i go into french quarters and all these people were just yelling like i love your
19:16hair and because for so long i had hidden my hair because i thought it wasn't pretty it was crazy to
19:24me that all of these people love my natural hair and that's when i realized there was power in the afro
19:29and power in natural hair and that's why i never went back to anything else like you couldn't pay me
19:35people ask like oh for a million dollars would you perm your hair for what you know just for money
19:41no my it's purpose in this like there's a reason i do this for the little girls so they don't have to
19:47go through the stuff that we went through it's especially for for girls it's harder you know we
19:52went through a lot to get back to being natural so no i don't want money for it you know what i'm
19:56saying like i like how women hair look in the 70s yeah so you know how trends revolve around i'm
20:03waiting on the afros and things like that to come back around and be in style yeah and you know just
20:08a natural look yeah it is and it's definitely coming back around i mean the afro is one of those
20:13things and i always tell people look if you all right now if you go natural you don't have to wear
20:19an afro because an afro is a hairstyle and everybody may not like a hairstyle just like if you go natural
20:25you don't have to shave your head bald because a bald head is a hairstyle you know what i'm saying
20:30but yeah we're going to keep pushing this yeah no i was just going to say that i think what's
20:34most important is that people are just affirmed that their hair is okay and good just as it grows
20:40out of your scalp exactly exactly yes exactly okay so i'm going to ask each one of you each of you the
20:48same question so we're going to start with avers what does your crown mean to you and what are some
20:53words to share with others wish to seek wishing to seek value in their hair or their crown wow well
21:01i guess i kind of jumped the gun because i think my response to that question would be exactly uh what
21:06i just iterated and that is to say that your hair just as it is just as it grows from your scalp is
21:13wonderful and beautiful and that whatever space you walk into that your hair has power and that you
21:20should carry that with you such that um such that you have an awareness that you command space
21:28and your hair is beautiful just as it is okay i like it i dig it my crown is freedom freedom freedom
21:36okay confidence yes um to be unique so who i naturally am yes and basically that's it okay okay glad me
21:45i'm gonna be honest i ain't really hit a question that's okay difficult to hear so what does your
21:52hair mean to you and what are some words to share with others who are trying to seek that same value
21:59this is um i don't know that i've ever admitted this um publicly but my hair is one of the biggest
22:07commitments i've ever made and have not broken biggest what commitments ah yeah i've ever made okay
22:13broken um you know through all these growing phases we like this we don't like that we like this we don't
22:18like that my hair is um a signifier that i have i'm still here i'm still growing and the the changes
22:27i've made in my life have been shown through my hair through the health of it and the upkeep okay so and
22:34though my hair doesn't define me it's in it's a visual indicator of okay how well i'm doing okay
22:42and how much better i am now than i was before okay okay okay i like it okay so let me ask y'all
22:50this because people always ask me and they assume my hair takes forever and it really doesn't take as
22:55long as you think once it's dry people like oh it takes hours to do your hair i'm like it really doesn't
23:00so how long does it take you to do your hair yeah i think the same is true for me i think people think
23:05that i have this sort of like elaborate way about which i do my hair um and i just sort of apply
23:13conditioners and leave-ins uh-huh let it air dry mostly today i definitely use a diffuser right um and
23:20it might have taken all of five minutes in the full process there you go exactly yeah oh lord i wish i
23:27could say the same my hair well one locks you gotta right right twist them well you gotta wash them
23:33then you gotta re-twist them that could take an hour or so okay then to achieve the bow that's probably
23:39another good two hours so it might be about three hours to get my hair up okay that's not bad yeah but
23:46once it's up there it's up there okay okay exactly that that's how i feel about this puff it's here
23:52and it's gonna stay for a couple of days until it's time to break it down and start all over again
23:56right you know and it really doesn't take much to get it back to how it looks now
24:00okay terrence uh me i really don't do anything man i just get up and go like uh like i wake up like this
24:08so yeah i mean yeah yeah just get up and go throw the button on five seconds how long does that take
24:14because i know how long do it take to do the twist out to do yeah the twist in your head okay so like today
24:20i um got twist outs as you can see um i mean five ten minutes twist out to twist all that hair
24:29i mean you know i get my hair done okay so how long does the stylist take to twist your hair maybe
24:35they might take an hour okay not an hour okay something right um but the truth but to take it
24:42out okay all right that's how long it takes me so that's that's not bad okay do y'all have any other
24:48encouraging words for men and young men with their um you know with their natural hair as far as if you
24:53want to wear it in a style other than a face because you know to wear your hair in these styles most people
25:01or some people would think that it's just not manly or it's this or that so what would you say to young
25:07men who want to wear their hair in these type of styles how to get over the fear of what other people
25:13say what i want to say is um so over the past and then maybe it wasn't this time frame but i'm noticing
25:22like the 10 15 years or so since i like graduated okay um college i'm seeing more and more younger
25:30people people doing more and more daring styles yes styles that otherwise might so i'm to be clear
25:37i'm queer and so i'm seeing more straight kids doing these styles that otherwise would have got them
25:44laughed at or you know so i want to say that i love this that younger people are embracing more
25:52creativity in this way right and i think like you said you know everything kind of is cyclical when it
25:57comes to trends um and everything so i think it's a beautiful thing that artists that people look up
26:05to are also doing the same thing so then the kids are like okay i could look like this i could look like
26:09that so what i would say is keep it up keep it up okay i would say do you be yourself yeah you know that
26:18way no other no two people can look the same like exactly you know you always want to be unique exactly
26:26and really look like everybody like i said just don't you really don't need to care about what other
26:30people think as long as they make you comfortable right you confident yes you know you'll be okay okay
26:37avers yeah i i mentioned earlier uh that my hair journey began like most black boys in a barber shop
26:44right which is a really uh it's a ritual and sacred space i think however equally as much there's
26:50sometimes can be a lot of trauma attached to barber shops specifically um for someone who has a hair
26:57texture that is other than um like a specific type or who chooses to wear their hair in a way that might
27:07in some cases be right uh perceived as being uh effeminate or not manly so to speak right um and
27:15so i would just say that people should feel liberated to wear their hair um however it is that they feel
27:23resonates most deeply with them and their identity and i think that we should be intentional especially
27:29within our community about affirming within each other that that's a beautiful thing and that you should
27:36be able and feel free to express yourself yes especially in terms of your aesthetic particularly
27:43in terms of your hair right um however it is that you feel right uh is best for you yeah because that's
27:49how i feel i'm like i feel like our hair should be one of the last things that's addressed as far as
27:54what makes people comfortable it's our hair you know what i'm saying like our texture i can't do anything
27:59to help you feel better about my texture you're gonna have to work on that yourself that has nothing to do
28:05with me so okay i also think that there's been like a healthy progress specifically for like black
28:11men yes uh toward like the acceptance of and feeling comfortable with beautifying ourselves because at
28:19the end of the day when you go to a barber shop right or you get your hair like taken care of that's
28:24what it is and there's nothing about that that is emasculating we should be intentional about grooming
28:31ourselves and uh i think that that's important okay i agree so let me ask y'all this question
28:38of course this is about the men and their hairstyles and the revolution but do you have any words for the
28:43sisters because you know we're the ones you know we tend to get the perms and the this and the that
28:49what can you say to us or to women as far as keeping up your natural hair journey and just going back to
28:56yourself i almost i'm almost to the point i don't want to call it a natural hair journey as much as
29:00going back to your roots no pun intended you know what i'm saying so what can you say to the women
29:05as far as going back to their roots and being proud of their hair well i was just going to remove myself
29:12from the conversation because black women certainly don't need my advice on what to do with their hair
29:18in fact i look to black women specifically the black women in my life right my mom my sister who shares
29:23hair texture similar to mine for advice on how it is that i should maintain my hair right black women are
29:28the pioneers of movements in general in this world yeah and certainly in terms of black hair um they
29:35are who i go to so uh i don't have anything i don't know that i should mansplan or offer to uh
29:42any words of encouragement like because some you'll be surprised some of us are still okay i'll tell y'all
29:47a story the other day i went in the gas station right so i had my hair in a bun and this woman looks
29:52at me she goes that's all your hair i said yes ma'am my daughter had just like that i said oh okay i
30:01hate it i was like i didn't even know it i was like uh okay i tell i hate it all the time so with and
30:10just when i thought in my mind like oh we're doing better with the whole natural hair movement people
30:14get it it's good i don't have to talk as much i'm in the gas station and she says that i didn't even
30:19know what to say and usually i got all the words so as far as the encouragement part you know it you
30:25know do you have anything as far as encouragement because ladies y'all know it's hard yeah i just
30:30think black men should take every opportunity they can to like affirm black women yes tell black women
30:35that they're beautiful and gorgeous and uh that you love them and uh that is my that is my way by which i
30:44uh okay offer black women and hold space for them okay glad you're like double dutch go ahead get
30:49in get in let me in let me in so all i just want to say is thank you black women oh yeah he said thank
30:57you black women you know brought these different um creative milestones to pass yes and i want to say
31:06do what you want because yes i think natural hair is beautiful and i think it should be embraced for sure
31:14like you said the way your hair come out comes out your scalp is enough do what you want because
31:19with that said sir you want you want to do this you want to you want to right la la whatever that's fine
31:26just thank you and also get in your kids heads you know if you're not and they and you and they
31:34have an inkling of a i wanted this i want to experiment go for it yes you know like we're sure we don't have
31:41time to break down all the different um socio whatever like uh issues and this generation thinks
31:48this they went through these traumas or whatever but i say you know foster the creativity yeah you
31:54know put them good hands to use yeah because why not why not you know we we got nothing but time
32:03okay terrence um words of encouragement um just do you just as long as you're comfortable with
32:09whatever hairstyle it is that you have whether it's natural whether it's a little lace front you know
32:15whatever it is i like all of this so i mean as long as you confident in what you're doing i mean you'll be
32:21okay okay okay i like it i dig it i dig it okay so let me ask y'all this anybody got any questions
32:29for me y'all need to ask me anything i got a question for you i didn't want to ask you so with
32:35all that hair uh-huh how are you not tempted to do all these different styles you see okay so what had
32:43happened was i used to okay i'm older right when i first went natural look good i was doing all the
32:51things y'all and literally back then they didn't have camera phones and stuff so i didn't know i'm
32:58not trying to say i'm that old but you know what i'm saying we didn't look i was i was there too
33:02i remember the time so we didn't have camera phones there was no selfies there was no
33:07you know um social media so i did hairstyles my sister my sister my family jody you know
33:14i did all kind of hairstyles but i don't have pictures of them except on a bag of film that is
33:21in my room that i refuse to go get uh processed because i know that's where all my hair pictures
33:28are so i used to be extremely creative with my actually i was supposed to do something today i was
33:34like oh i'm gonna do the puff with this and that it's hot what other hair styles do you wear oh anything
33:41anything i do bun to the top bun to the left bun to the right bun to the top bun to the back
33:45i do braids down the back with the bead two beads right with the braids down here and a puff at the
33:51top or a bun that was an old style i used to do many twists and set it on rollers um afros of course
33:58of all different sizes and shapes because as y'all know our hair shrinks up so okay so you know i can
34:05do all kinds of different things so just any and everything the twist out i even have twisted my hair
34:11and use it like dread and style my hair different stuff not that cute and then i just mastered the
34:16wash and go because i thought that i couldn't do a wash and go for years because of my texture
34:20but i learned different so thank you okay so anybody else i gotta wrap this up they telling me we gotta
34:27go it has been so fun talking to y'all thank y'all for listening anybody else has anything to say
34:36before we get off the stage and go have fun for essence and let me just say y'all don't be a hero
34:41stay hydrated drink your water okay go ahead say kudos to essence for holding space for black men to
34:49talk about their hair journeys i think that's a really wonderful thing it's affirming for me and i'm
34:54just so grateful to share space and to share this stage with you all and all of you yes i thought i thought
35:00this was absolutely awesome i was like i don't want to talk about myself i'm so glad i got to sit
35:05up here and talk with y'all it's been so much fun anybody else has anything to say before we you know
35:09hit the streets let's get it let's go okay thank y'all for listening we appreciate it i hope y'all got
35:20some gems today if you have any questions if you see me out there or if you see one of these handsome
35:25fellas out there if you want to take a picture whatever just ask right y'all y'all definitely
35:30you can find me on instagram at a-v-e-r-i-s israel a-v-e-r-i-s-i-s-r-a-e-l on all platforms
35:39check me out okay didn't he sound like i-n-d-e-p-e-n-d okay okay go ahead
35:45i am gladney at gladney official that's glad with an n-e-y glad right now official gladney okay
35:56mine is that damn indian boy that damn indian boy but all you gotta do is walk up on me and i got
36:01you okay i got it and mine is aven dugout if you look up world's largest afro my name will pop up
36:08and then you can follow me from there thank y'all so much for listening we appreciate it
36:15thank you thank you yes thank you all so much for coming out to to the festivities today we'll be
36:22back here tomorrow panel starting at 12 the dj gonna be turning up from 11 o'clock so i'll see y'all
36:28tomorrow love you
36:38you
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