00:00We have to start with your elimination.
00:01You got a little emotional on your way out of the castle.
00:05You talked about your time on Housewives and how that was hard for it to all end.
00:08You know, the end of Housewives was very difficult for me.
00:11Wow.
00:12It was just so nice to be able to be me.
00:15I'm just so grateful for the entire experience.
00:19I really hope.
00:21What hit you so hard about that?
00:23I think, you know, the game is so intense.
00:27And I just broke open.
00:29I don't really know.
00:31I know that it was like a big release for me.
00:33It cracked me open.
00:35I hadn't felt my feelings like that in a really long time.
00:38And I think, you know, the grieving process of losing my mother was really very difficult.
00:43And I think people saw that.
00:45And I don't know what traitors did to me, but it broke me open.
00:49And in that moment, I was able to feel and be vulnerable.
00:53And I'm so grateful for that.
00:55I really am.
00:56And I think you did a good job of showing the full spectrum, the full color of who you
01:01are as a person.
01:01You know, you talked about how you were someone before Housewives.
01:05You were someone before traitors.
01:06How you'll be someone after this experience.
01:09And I feel like sometimes we get these ideas of what a person looks like on reality television.
01:13And even Colton had a moment where you guys went back and forth.
01:16And you're like, I'm more than just that.
01:17I'm more than just the Housewife.
01:19Why was it important for you to say and get that message out there?
01:22Well, because my last year on Housewives was so brutal, and I think I was really labeled
01:27a villain and something that, of course, I'm part of, but it's not my full being.
01:34And that was really frustrating to me, to be labeled a villain and evil.
01:40And I'm like, that's so not who I am.
01:42And I thought maybe traitors would give me the time to be able for people to see my full,
01:49much more of myself.
01:50Do you know what I mean?
01:51And thank God it did that.
01:54It really did.
01:55And I'm grateful for that because I'm so much more than my last year on Housewives.
02:00I wanted to ask you, too, about the moment where Colton came to you.
02:03I think it was in episode six.
02:04And he said, hey, if you protect me in the turret, I'll protect you at the round table.
02:08I will protect you at the round table if you protect me in the turret.
02:15What was going through your head in that moment?
02:17I was like, don't trust this motherfucker.
02:19No, absolutely not.
02:20And then I was like, where did he get that idea?
02:24How would he even know to say that?
02:26Because I certainly wouldn't.
02:27Like, then I was like, wait a second.
02:31Does he have that with Rob?
02:32Do they have that deal?
02:34You know what I mean?
02:35Then your mind starts going.
02:36But at that point, he was already coming for me.
02:38And I was like, I am not falling for that, buddy.
02:40And I think so much of this season for you has been, it's been a conversation about you
02:44and Colton.
02:45And another moment that I think a lot of fans were watching and they were talking about
02:48was at the banquet.
02:50Everyone thought you might be going for Colton.
02:52How did you land on Jam Jam?
02:55Ow, ow, ow, ow.
02:57Is this shit?
02:58Do you need help?
02:59Yeah.
02:59Will you just get it open?
03:01Yeah, it's close to it.
03:03Perfect.
03:05Well, I wanted to go for Colton, obviously.
03:07But it was too risky because Colton was watching every single move I made.
03:12Do you know what I mean?
03:12And you have one shot at it.
03:15So I thought I was going to drop the pin.
03:19But what if Colton didn't pick it up?
03:21You know what I mean?
03:21So I was like, who would love my outfit?
03:27Who would easily help me if I said, oh, wait, my pin is sticking me.
03:32And it was like Jam Jam was really at the top.
03:35And I love Jam Jam.
03:37I didn't want to kill him.
03:38But it just happened to be in the moment the easiest thing because he leaned in to kiss
03:44me.
03:45Let's break that down.
03:47I didn't even kiss him.
03:48I air kissed him.
03:49So the fact that he's like, it's Lisa.
03:51It's Lisa.
03:51She kissed me.
03:52I was like, oh, for God's sakes.
03:54Not only is that not right.
03:56I had to do the pin and I did it so brilliantly, but I can't say that.
03:59It was so frustrating, but it was also so funny.
04:02The fact that I kill him and then he screams out my name at the end.
04:06Like, you can't write that.
04:06I was like, even sitting there going, oh, that's it.
04:11Like, he just sealed my death certificate.
04:12I knew it.
04:13Like, I knew that was it, but I was like, okay, it's kind of iconic, right?
04:17I've now talked with Jam Jam and I talked with Ron, who they're rooting for the traders
04:23to win.
04:24Why do you think people are rooting for Rob this season?
04:26Why do you think that he's just got everybody in his pocket?
04:30Girl, have you looked at him?
04:31Girl, have you looked at him?
04:33He has hypnotized the freaking world.
04:36And I get it.
04:38You know, he is a beautiful human being.
04:42And whether you're gay, straight, non-binary, it doesn't even matter.
04:46If you're a dog, everybody loves Rob.
04:50So, you know, he really has a magic about him and he's very smart.
04:54And listen, so is Candace.
04:58I love the trader game that Candace is playing.
05:01It was such a joy to just be in the turret with both of them.
05:04I have to say, I loved my trader family.
05:07It was very sad, you know, to have it break up.
05:10But I mean, I knew that was going to happen.
05:12Sooner or later, somebody comes for somebody.
05:15It's funny because everyone thought it was going to be me.
05:17Everyone thought, oh, at least it's going to go after Candace and Rob.
05:19Well, guess what?
05:20No.
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