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00:00Welcome, everyone. Tis the season. Welcome to the Black Girls Kill Panel, sponsored by BlurredCon.
00:07My name is Zero Gravity. I'm a New York-based micro-influencer and public speaker dedicated to highlighting representation in the horror and sci-fi realms.
00:17So, today, I've gathered a couple of my favorite Black women in the horror community.
00:21Please welcome Jazz and Kat, the woman behind Girl That Scary Podcast, and Kai Fields, the host of Monstrosity's Voice Horrors on Touch podcast, special effects artist, and founder of the KYFX Horror Group.
00:35So, I just want to put the spotlight on us for a moment before we get into the nitty-gritty.
00:41So, being a woman in the horror community is hard enough, but being a Black woman can add an extra layer of frustration when it comes to creating our content in a tasteful and reliable way.
00:56So, I just want to take some time to ask each of you to first give us a little background history on your brands.
01:04How does it feel being a Black woman? How does it influence your creative process when it comes to your content?
01:10So, let's start with Kai.
01:13Oh, wow. KaiFX Horror Group is literally my kid.
01:19I really just wanted to give Black and Brown horror content creators like Kat Jazz and you a platform to talk about where you got your start, what inspires you all, and just kind of amplify that.
01:36Also, it was a space for me to kind of push, you know, KaiFX Makeup Artistry and Monstrosity Voice Podcast, and that pretty much is just like a multimedia platform for Black horror by Black horror.
01:46Anything that surrounds the advancement of our people through this genre, I'm pushing that.
01:53Like Issa Rae said, I'm rooting for everyone Black.
01:55So, being a Black woman in the horror genre, it's definitely you're dealing with a genre that, I don't want to say it's a man's world, but like-
02:07You can say it.
02:09Historically, it's been a white man's world.
02:11So, here I am, this young alternative Black woman coming and I'm like, hey, what's up, y'all?
02:16Like, I just want to talk about like our perspective in the genre and how our lives matter so much that we should get the opportunity to fight for life in these films.
02:24And I feel like that's important.
02:26And it's kind of like, what?
02:28So, I feel like it can be frustrating sometimes being a Black woman in the horror genre, but you just have to keep pushing forward because there are people that are looking at you and that are being inspired by you.
02:38That's like, okay, Black kids do love horror movies too.
02:42It's okay.
02:43Like, it's cool to like what you like.
02:45So, yeah.
02:46I love it.
02:47For lack of better terms, you're a fubu of horror.
02:51For us, by us.
02:54Type thing.
02:55I love it.
02:56Okay, let's hear it.
02:57Girl, that's scary podcast.
03:00Okay.
03:01I'm Jess.
03:02Hi.
03:03I'm Kat.
03:04Hey.
03:05And we are a DMV-based podcast that talks about horror, sci-fi, and everything in between.
03:11Shows, movies, shorts, everything.
03:13We like to, we just love it.
03:15That's been our passion for over the past two decades.
03:18Forever.
03:18Yeah, forever, forever.
03:21We just love horror and our families introduced us into horror.
03:25Our moms, specifically, love horror.
03:29So, they passed that down to us.
03:31And that was a family thing.
03:32Like, we go rent movies and we go to the horror section.
03:35You get ice cream in, a puppet master three.
03:37Stuff that you know is not seen in theaters.
03:39It's a nice 99 cent.
03:41You know, you can't afford the, you know, $6.99 new rental.
03:44So, you're getting these deep cut horror films, but they have their charm.
03:48And it just, and especially as a child, like, that's what you watch.
03:52It's just that passion.
03:54And we just want to hear it from not only women, but black women.
03:57And, you know, black queer women, you know.
04:00Yes, come on.
04:01That want to get into it.
04:03Like, you know, it's like everything we hear is like white male.
04:08Just white male.
04:09White male.
04:09White sister male.
04:10Yeah, and it's like, if I type in saw review, I'm going to get the first 15, 20, 30 videos.
04:19The people, they're not going to look the same, but they're going to be from the same demographic from the general sample.
04:23They're not going to look like you.
04:24Yeah, they're not going to look like me.
04:25And then there's things that people miss.
04:27Like, we have a duality about us as black women or as black people in general.
04:32But as black women specifically, you have the duality of the double consciousness of being black in America
04:37and understanding things from a black perspective and then still putting yourself in other people's perspective.
04:42So just so you can navigate, you know, your environment.
04:45And then on top of that, being a woman and knowing how to navigate your environment and where to protect yourself
04:50and where there's tension where other people don't see it.
04:53You know, we can see tension in a, you know, in the alley where other people don't.
04:58Because we know what lurks for us versus maybe some other people.
05:01You know, other people might not feel the same fear we feel because we may have some more things, you know, ready.
05:07It's a different perspective.
05:08Yeah, different perspective.
05:09Because we're looking out for different things.
05:11So we just love more.
05:13We got together.
05:14We've been homegirls for like going on 10 years.
05:16And Kat has a radio voice.
05:18She has a very sultry voice.
05:20Gas me ass.
05:20Yeah.
05:23I see on the Link Up podcast.
05:25It was, you know, more like, you know, talking about, you know, relationships, business, just living life as a young adult navigating.
05:33And Kat was the intro voice to our podcast.
05:35It would say, hey, y'all, welcome to the Link Up.
05:38That was Kat coming in.
05:40Like, it was just how you came in.
05:41It's just a warm voice.
05:43So she has that radio voice.
05:44Everybody's like, yeah, do this.
05:45And she's like.
05:45Because I sound like Barry White.
05:46Ma'am.
05:49That's really what this is about.
05:51And she was like, you know, I don't want to do it by myself because that's a lot.
05:54And she was, I was like, you know, she asked me what I do with her.
05:56I was like, hell yeah.
05:57One, you my homegirl.
05:59Okay.
05:59And two, I love horror and you love horror.
06:01And I'm like, we can talk about horror all day long.
06:06So that's where we came from, you know, pull up on us at the, you know, homegirl horror hashtag.
06:11Okay.
06:11Or, you know, girl that's scary.
06:13We're here trying to just make things where people feel like, you know, feel connected to us.
06:18Where people who look like us see themselves and be like, oh, I thought that too.
06:22Or, oh, I watched that or I remember that.
06:24Especially when we talk about black horror movies that aren't reviewed as much.
06:27Like Tales from the Hood, Bones, you know, things like that.
06:32So, yeah.
06:33It's just regular degular conversation for everyday people.
06:36That's all.
06:37Regular degular conversation for everyday people.
06:40Homie, I love it.
06:42Gang.
06:43No, that's what's up.
06:44I mean, thank you, the three of you for being here.
06:46I am a big fan of all of your content.
06:50And I also consider y'all friends.
06:53I'm really glad that we're able to do this together.
06:57And, you know, under this platform sponsored by Blurcon and Afropunk.
07:01Just to get down to it.
07:04Shoot the shit.
07:05Talk about what we love.
07:06Now let's get to the good stuff.
07:09So, let's see.
07:11Oh, and without further ado, a spoiler warning.
07:14So, we're going to keep it nice and simple and scary.
07:17We're going to highlight our most memorable, disgusting, terrifying moments.
07:22Hopefully, some of you watching have a pen and paper handy to beef up your Halloween season watch list.
07:30Because, if anything, you're going to want to listen to us.
07:34So, let's start it off with slashers.
07:39So, for those of you who are unaware, a slasher is basically the murder guy film.
07:45So, let's start with Jazz.
07:48What moment, what slasher moment stood out to you, is burned into your brain right now?
07:53Okay.
07:54So, Friday the 13th, part two.
07:57And I love me some Jason Voorhees, okay?
08:00And the movies aren't the best quality all the time.
08:02They're a little repetitive.
08:04But I don't care because I'm in play.
08:06Well, I'm glad that you could admit that.
08:09Yeah.
08:10I'm a fan.
08:11Yes.
08:12I will admit the problem, but am I going to watch it?
08:13Absolutely.
08:14I'm going to watch it anyway.
08:15Hell yeah.
08:16Kevin Bacon.
08:17Sorry.
08:19Kevin Bacon.
08:20That's part one.
08:20I love that kill.
08:22And it's, you know, it's simple, too.
08:23But it's, you know, for the time, great.
08:26My favorite is from part three.
08:27One, because I love part three in general because he gets his mask, that movie.
08:32And then he is, you know, teens are always trying to have sex.
08:37And they're always having sex in the bathroom shower, which never was possible because, girl,
08:42this doesn't make sense, but movie.
08:44He's doing a handstand because he's, you know, he's a joke.
08:47That's what he is.
08:48He's a joke.
08:49He's doing handstands.
08:50He's juggling and shit during the movie, you know, and Jason pulls up on him while
08:55he's, like, naked in a handstand, I believe, and chops him in half down the middle.
09:02And the thing is, I feel like they don't show the body there.
09:05They show the body later, and it's stuffed in the ceiling, and it's like the legs is open
09:10and the blood is dripping down.
09:11I think the girl reading, like, a fan warrior magazine.
09:14I don't know.
09:14You know, I might mix the movies up, but I know, because I've seen them all.
09:18I feel like the blood is dripping from the ceiling.
09:20So, somebody's, like, doing something.
09:21They look up and see the body.
09:22They're like, oh, my God.
09:24Oh.
09:25And he's just, I'm like, ooh, they just stuffed him up in, like, five pieces.
09:28Ooh.
09:30That is so wild.
09:31I can see the inside of his legs, especially I saw that.
09:34I was less than 10.
09:36I was, I was, like, six or seven when I watched that.
09:40You know, my mom let me watch anything.
09:43I love that.
09:44I was like, oh, my God.
09:46I was stressed, but then guess what?
09:48I watched it again.
09:49All right.
09:50Let's hear it, Kat.
09:52Okay.
09:52So, mine is A Nightmare on Elm Street, the first movie, the scene where Glenn gets sucked
10:00into the bed.
10:01And, you know, Glenn is played, for those who don't know, by Johnny Depp.
10:04I don't know if he's on the problematic list.
10:07I heard some things.
10:08I'm not really sure.
10:08But I love him, and I love the scenes.
10:12Please, God, don't tell me something's crazy.
10:14And it wasn't necessarily, like, a super slasher film, a slasher reveal.
10:20Because at this point, we know that Freddie is real.
10:23He's with us.
10:24But Nancy is really trying to, like, get to the bottom.
10:27We've already said spoiler alert.
10:29Nancy is really just trying to get to, like, she's trying to solve the shit.
10:33So, this scene of Glenn being sucked into the bed, and the blood just splatters onto the ceiling.
10:42I'm, like, visualizing this, like, it's crazy.
10:49Now, I've watched the Never Sleep Again documentary.
10:52If y'all have not seen it, I think it's available on Shudder.
10:55It is.
10:56Really good.
10:56Really good.
10:57I've seen it.
10:58But I'm telling you, that's where you can find it.
11:00If you're a Freddie Nightmare on Elm Street fan, it's, like, a four-hour documentary.
11:04But it's going to be the best four hours of your life you're trying to take.
11:06Like, so, they talk about how they filmed that scene for the room, and it was in, like, a rotating, like, room situation.
11:15People definitely got, you know, most of the sickness, which I completely understand, because you're flipped on top of your head.
11:20But they were talking about all the, like, mechanics and extra things that went into making the scene.
11:27And that was super interesting to me.
11:29And now, knowing that when I watch it, and it's still just, like, it doesn't obviously look like they were flipping the room upside down to make the scene.
11:36And it's the 80s.
11:37Like, it's not like right now.
11:39There's only so much you can do with what you have and your budget and tech.
11:43Like, crazy.
11:45So, this scene, although we don't know it's Freddie, it still really stuck with me, because I haven't seen no shit like that in my life.
11:53Like, they suck him through the bed.
11:55He just sitting there watching the TV minding his business.
11:56And it gets sucked through the bed, and it just, like, a geyser of blood just shoots up to the ceiling.
12:02And I had no business watching this as a young kid.
12:06So, off books, I'm like, oh, this is my shit right here.
12:10On the DL.
12:11Okay, next, Kai.
12:14Slasher moment.
12:15Mine is going to be scream when Casey's mom finds her hanging after Ghostface has gutted her like a fish.
12:27Copy.
12:27But more specifically, the scene where they, like, hand the camera to her boyfriend, and you can literally – well, in the – I guess it's, like, the – I don't know if it's the director's cut or, like, the super rated R version where you can actually see the guts of her boyfriend fall out.
12:44Mm.
12:44I'm sick.
12:45Oh, my God.
12:46I'm so sick.
12:47I'm far.
12:48I can just visualize it right now.
12:49And then the fact, like, sis was really just living her best life.
12:52She was making her some jiffy popcorn on the stove.
12:54That's some good popcorn.
12:55And somebody called her and was, like, what's your favorite scary movie?
12:59And she keeps flirting or whatever.
13:00And then her boyfriend's insides are outside.
13:03And then she – her mom will come and she finds her.
13:06And you can see that emotion on her mom's face, like, yo, like, I just found my daughter.
13:09Like, it's a lot.
13:11And it really shows – even though Scream is a very goofy movie and, like, Ghostface himself is very goofy.
13:17He's tripping and falling all over the place.
13:19Like, he means business.
13:21Like, that was serious.
13:22Like, that was a really serious, like, legit kill.
13:25So, that was my favorite slasher reveal.
13:27No, that's a good one.
13:28I think that's a good one because I always – like, she was so close.
13:33Yeah, she was real close.
13:35She was mad close.
13:36Like, traps her and, like –
13:38So, I also chose Nightmare on Elm Street.
13:43I chose Dream Warriors.
13:45And so, I chose the Welcome to the Primetime Bitch slasher or Head TV.
13:53Basically, y'all.
13:56That's our best.
13:56I know that is Cat's business, Nightmare on Elm Street 3.
14:01Oh, girl, you did.
14:03Fried.
14:04Fried.
14:06Basically, homegirl sitting on the couch.
14:08By herself.
14:09She's minding her own business.
14:11Smoking a doobie.
14:13And she's watching whatever daily show on television.
14:18And all of a sudden, the television sprouts arms, like mechanical arms,
14:25grabs his arm by the shoulders, lifts her up.
14:28You know, of course, Freddie's got to throw the bitch in there.
14:31His head pops out the top of the television.
14:34Welcome to primetime, bitch.
14:37Which, of course, smashes her head through the television as she, you know, gets a little
14:41bit electrocuted.
14:42Just shaking there for a minute.
14:45And that was just nuts.
14:46That was, like, utterly – like, it was crazy.
14:50It was like nothing I've ever seen before.
14:53That's why Nightmare on Elm Street goes so fucking hard.
14:56So, our next category of horror moments burned into our brains is Monster Reveals, Monster
15:04Attacks.
15:05And this is my jam because I like monsters.
15:09So, let's begin.
15:11Jazz?
15:13All right.
15:13My Monster Reveal was from the thing 1982, John Carpenter, the dogs.
15:19When they realize that there's something awry, and they're like, hmm, there's something about
15:25the dog.
15:25Let's go check the dogs.
15:27And they go, and all the dogs are gone except for one.
15:31And there's this big, monstrous dog creature, and it's sprouting legs and limbs, and there's
15:39tentacles coming out of it, and it's gooey, and there's jaws.
15:43It's like, ah!
15:46That, bitch!
15:48And there's another dog in the corner.
15:49Poor fucking dog.
15:50And he's like, oh, bitch, get me the fuck out of here.
15:53And they don't get him out of there.
15:55And the tentacles come in and get him.
15:57And I was like, no, y'all didn't say my dog.
15:59What is wrong with y'all?
16:01I hate y'all.
16:02Y'all sit this random dog in here, and you put him in here with your friends, and you
16:06didn't even bet him.
16:07You didn't even check him.
16:09You don't know what was going on with him.
16:11You put him in here with your other dog friends, and now look, they're all dead.
16:15And they're just stressed, because everybody's just looking like, what the fuck is going
16:18on?
16:18Do I shoot this?
16:20They're trying to save the dog, but they can't save the dog.
16:23Watch the thing, y'all.
16:25My blood pressure went up.
16:27Next, Kat.
16:28Let's hear it.
16:30Okay, so mine would be It, the OG It from the 90s, when it's revealed what or who Pennywise
16:40really is.
16:42And if you go super deeper into it, so in the movie, it's like a made-for-TV movie for
16:46those who have not seen the original It, while also seeing the new It.
16:50What it is, is like a spider, space, monster, creature, alien thing that can transform across
17:01like times, and decorates decades, and cause all kind of havoc.
17:05This shit is super deep.
17:06But when we see it, girl, we find out Pennywise, this big giant spider thing, I was like, girl,
17:12they fit all that body in that fucking, that fucking clown thing.
17:15I was like, this is too much.
17:16First of all, I don't do spiders.
17:18Then he came back, and he was beating his ass with the rocks.
17:20Then it became the whole thing.
17:22I was just...
17:23No, no.
17:24Me as a young kid, I was...
17:25No.
17:26Cancel.
17:27Cancel.
17:29Mine is also from The Thing, and I recently watched it for the first time, because I wanted
17:35to talk about it for 31 Days of Black Horror.
17:38And I like the blood test scene, and that's actually the scene that I posted on my Insta,
17:42because whenever they discover that Palmer is like the monster, everybody's like, ah, ah,
17:49give me out, and they're all chained together, and they're like, ah, ah, ah, ah.
17:54What's crazy is when he was testing everybody's blood, Palmer's sitting there like, oh, shit,
17:58what are you going to get to me that I already know?
18:00So I thought that was really cool.
18:02I really, really enjoyed the film.
18:04So that monster reveal was probably one of my favorites thus far.
18:07The scene that I chose for my monster reveal is I wanted to go a little more modern, and
18:13I chose the scene from a film called Sweetheart.
18:17It's a newer film.
18:19I believe it's 2019.
18:21It's available on Netflix.
18:23And I will be completely honest, I didn't know that this was a monster movie when I clicked
18:30on it.
18:31I simply clicked on it because the girl on the cover had the same haircut as me.
18:37And to my pleasant surprise, it was a monster movie.
18:42I had no idea.
18:44But basically, our main character, she's stuck on an abandoned island.
18:51In the beginning parts of the movie, she's just trying to survive.
18:55And then she finds a flare gun, shoots it off because she sees an airplane or a helicopter,
19:02one of those two, flying over the island.
19:05So she figures she can get the passengers overhead attention by shooting off her flare gun that
19:12she found.
19:12So she shoots the flare gun, and the flare goes up in the air, and then it comes down slowly
19:20into the water.
19:22And then the edge of the flare illuminates from the back this monster.
19:27And everything up until this moment was specifically just a survival film.
19:36And then this flare with, you know, that creepy backlighting when you have a light behind you,
19:41like a shadow.
19:41So the flare drops behind this monster, like way out in the ocean, and it lights up the
19:48outline.
19:49And it was just like, one of the most phenomenal monster reveals I've ever seen.
19:55And it was so subtle.
19:57But it really made you go, oh, shit.
20:01Because you really weren't going to see that coming beforehand.
20:04And that was just, wow.
20:07And that, I think, was the scene that made the movie for me, for sure.
20:13All right.
20:14So moving on.
20:16We're going to move a little bit away from monsters, but not too much.
20:19So now we're going to talk about zombies.
20:22My personal favorite.
20:24You love zombies.
20:25I do.
20:26I do love me some zombies.
20:27I do love the undead.
20:29I love how broad the genre can be.
20:33You know, there's like a million, bajillion different ways that you can imagine a zombie.
20:37Like smart, dumb, fast, slow.
20:40And I like to see the different iterations of zombies that filmmakers bring to life.
20:45So let's start with Jazz.
20:47Zombie moment.
20:49I went with Return of the Living Dead 1986, Tar Man, when his first bite.
20:55When he bite that man in the head, he come out and be like, breathe.
20:59And he's on my shirt.
21:00Hi, guys.
21:00He bites him in the head.
21:05Just straight up bites him in the head.
21:07Like, I'm like, what the?
21:09I was a child watching this.
21:11So I was like seven.
21:12And that haunted me.
21:14Like, the zombie who haunted my dreams was Tar Man.
21:17If I ever had a zombie dream, you know, zombies are vague in the background.
21:21But if I got close to a zombie, it was always like a Tar Man looking zombie.
21:25It was always this juicy looking, like jelly looking zombie.
21:29He always had big, big ass denture teeth talking about some brains.
21:34It stressed me out.
21:35The way he bit his head was stressful.
21:38I didn't like that he talked because I'm not used to zombies talking.
21:41He's in brains.
21:43They saying all types of stuff because the zombies in there are talking.
21:46And they ambushing people.
21:48And they running full speed.
21:50They using tools and shit.
21:52He used a pulley.
21:53I'm like, uh-uh, uh-uh, wait a minute.
21:55Yeah.
21:56See, I love that movie.
21:58Fucking love that movie.
21:59It's just, the punk in me is just like living.
22:03But why did that fucking zombie have to be so damn intelligent before he bites the, like,
22:09skinhead looking guy with the chains on his head?
22:13Homegirl is in the closet.
22:15Yeah.
22:16And he decides that he's going to use the chain in the, like, a pulley system.
22:21Like, I wouldn't even fucking thought of that.
22:23I just would have been shaking the door into it.
22:26But, I mean, I guess I'm more of the zombie.
22:28And this man was using, like, critical thinking to figure out how to get this girl's brains
22:33from in there.
22:34Okay, Kat.
22:35Let's hear.
22:35Okay, so one, we're clearly all the same person.
22:40Just wanted to say that out loud.
22:42Two paired with one, it was also tough for me because I was torn between what I'm about
22:48to say and Return of the Living Dead when the guy gets on the microphone and he's like,
22:53send more cops.
22:54And I was like, turn that shit up.
22:56Like, I was like, yes.
23:00But my pop-out, like, stand-out moment for me was Shaun of the Dead was such a fucking
23:10fun-ass film.
23:11Love Shaun of the Dead.
23:12And it's the Don't Stop Me Now.
23:14I'm a huge queen stan.
23:19So this whole scene really sends me to a place.
23:24It's very entertaining.
23:25It's a fun movie.
23:26It does have a little bit of scary elements, period.
23:29For those who haven't seen it, all of us, we've seen it.
23:32I thought this movie was funny as hell.
23:34The zombies are fun.
23:35They're beating the zombie ass to the Don't Stop Me Now.
23:38And Queen is just such a magnificent band.
23:40Like, I don't really care what you have to say if you're not talking about that Queen shit
23:44because that's...
23:46What?
23:47Real talk.
23:49That's really just it.
23:50Like, Friday, Mercury.
23:51That's the seventh.
23:52So they're beating the zombie's ass to the jukebox.
23:57And I love a jukebox jam.
23:59It makes me...
24:00It's like a personal situation because it's like my grandparents have a jukebox.
24:03I really just resonate with, like, you know, fucking it up to the jukebox one time.
24:08So they're doing it, but it's too, like, in a zombie apocalypse moment.
24:12And I really love that.
24:13Like, I truly feel like that's something that would happen.
24:16Not necessarily a jukebox, but definitely a playlist somewhere in my zombie apocalypse escape
24:22story if I decide to ever leave my house.
24:24It's going to be future.
24:25It is going to be future.
24:28Absolutely.
24:29Pick a song.
24:30It could be...
24:30That's my ho-to.
24:31That's pretty much it.
24:35Kai, let's hear it.
24:38Well, we're going to go back to George A. Romero.
24:40And I'm going to do John of the Dead 2004, the zombie baby scene with Makai Fine-Pfeiffer.
24:47Yes.
24:49Yes.
24:50I like that scene, one, because I feel like it shows the duality of humanity of the zombie
24:54wife and of Makai Fine-Pfeiffer.
24:57Because granted, there's a zombie apocalypse, but I'm still having this baby.
25:00And granted, my wife is a zombie, but she's still having this baby.
25:03And then at the same time, like, this is a zombie who is in this vessel and is still
25:09having a baby.
25:10Like, the zombie doesn't stop the baby from coming, you know?
25:14And so that was one of my favorite scenes.
25:18Oh, well, delivery scenes.
25:20And also, I feel like you get to see the vulnerability of Makai Fine-Pfeiffer's character.
25:24Like, damn, I bet you didn't have a zombie baby.
25:27And I still love that zombie baby because it's mine.
25:29In fact, I chose a scene from 28 Days Later, in the beginning, when our homeboy just wakes
25:36up and he's wandering through the streets.
25:38He's wandering through his old hood, finds himself in the chapel, and he is up on the
25:44second floor looking down onto the church pews.
25:47And it's just like, bunch of bodies, just like bodies everywhere.
25:51And he's confused, you know, what the hell did I just wake up to?
25:55And you can tell, like, the camera spends a lot of time on his face.
26:01And you can tell that he's, like, about to say something.
26:04And as the viewer, you're like, you know that these zombies are most likely activated by sound.
26:10So you're like, no, no, no, no, no.
26:12And his mouth is open.
26:13He's, like, about to say something.
26:14And he just goes, hello?
26:17And instantly, like, or, like, three or four zombies in the pews, just get up, quickly.
26:26And I'm looking at him in his face.
26:28And that's when you know that he fucked up.
26:30It was, like, the moment that he realized that everything has gone to shit.
26:35Like, if you're in a church covered by a blanket of bodies, I don't really know where you're safe.
26:43And father is out here spitting blood and, you know, that old chestnut.
26:49No, thank you.
26:50Yeah.
26:51Gone to shit.
26:52Okay.
26:54Next category.
26:55Let's move away from zombies now.
26:57We can talk about, ooh, okay, let's go.
27:00Scenes that made you squeamish.
27:03Or, for the gang, body horror.
27:08Let's hear it.
27:09Okay, Jazz first.
27:10All right, this was hard, but both of my choices were in the Saw series.
27:15Saw stresses me, traps stress me.
27:18I went with Saw 2, the needle pit.
27:21Oh, girl.
27:21When the young lady falls, she doesn't fall, good one, pushed into the pit with all the needles.
27:30And I was like, ah!
27:32It just, oh, it makes me, my, oh, I can't.
27:35Especially, she ain't even jumping in her own, like, I don't know, I'm trying to think
27:37that she jumping in her own.
27:38No, that man pushed her in there, because he wanted to find the antidote.
27:42Now, she got it, but damn, bro, like, that's messed up.
27:45Now, it was between that and Saw 3, where they had that black man in that machine, his
27:50bones, his limbs were torn, and one by one.
27:52Mm-hmm.
27:53And the thing was, they just did not turn the camera away.
27:58And when he went back, and you could hear the bones crunching and him screaming.
28:03And I just, the scene was, like, five minutes, because they're just arguing, because the
28:08man is, the man has the option to save him, and he just, he's an asshole, and he does not.
28:12So, but I'm like, you could have saved him on the first limb, and you played, you played,
28:18and now we got to watch all these limbs one by one, crack, crack, crack.
28:22Like, we, and, like, you got four of them.
28:24He stood there a long time.
28:25He ain't shit, bro.
28:26Like, I, it upset me.
28:28It upset me and my homegirls.
28:31No.
28:32Okay, Cap.
28:33My, like, super shaky scene, there's a lot, but one that has most recently stuck with me
28:39is, um, I don't know if you've seen the French horror, like, invasion slashers, um, Inside.
28:46I've never heard of it.
28:48The whole movie itself is, like, a blood gore, like, French, you know, French quarantine.
28:53It's a French quarantine.
28:54You know they're wildest.
28:55You already know from the French extreme tag, these niggas about me wildest.
28:59So, um, for this movie, the end, like, just a quick overview.
29:04There's a woman that's pregnant, and it's like a, you know, you're a pregnancy invasion
29:09type film, but it has this, like, it's not what you think it is.
29:12Okay.
29:13Because, you know, they're all kind of the same for the most part.
29:16Somebody's pregnant, somebody tried to steal my baby.
29:18You know that whole story.
29:19But it's not exactly that type of story.
29:23So, that already, like, boop, sticks with me.
29:25But when I say this movie is bloody, like, I want to know how much blood they used for
29:33the set.
29:34All right.
29:34Um, and this particular end, like, it just went through the roof's way.
29:42I was like, oh, girl.
29:43I looked at Jen and said, oh, man.
29:45Oh, it's like that.
29:47It's like that.
29:49Wow, man.
29:50Even if I don't feel, like, super sick, just the fact that it made me think I'm like, uh, uh.
29:53Bloody.
29:53Oh, like, I had stood up and started shaking my hands because I was just like, oh, girl,
30:01man, go crazy.
30:02So, it's just that.
30:03And that's all I'm going to say on it.
30:04There you go.
30:05Okay.
30:05Copy.
30:06I can deal with that.
30:07Mm-hmm.
30:08I can deal with that.
30:09Oh, y'all know I am not a fan of Bobby Harper.
30:14And I was torn between two movies that I actually plan on writing about both of these films.
30:22I was torn between, um, Slither and The Faculty.
30:27Ugh.
30:28Even thinking about it is, like, really haunting me.
30:31And I told y'all earlier, I had a nightmare that really scared me about The Faculty.
30:36And really, it's just, like, the up close of the little alien creature.
30:43Like, even that scene in The Matrix when they put the little thing in Keanu Reeves's, um,
30:48that part scares me.
30:49I'm like, I don't like slugs.
30:52I don't do, like, on Slytherin when he's trying to have sex with old girl and impregnates her
30:57with slugs, like.
31:00Yeah, that movie is nasty as hell.
31:02That whole movie.
31:03Slytherin is, it's just, I just cannot, I can't.
31:06And The Faculty, like, I tried because, you know, Usher was in it.
31:08Like, what, I'm really, like, in it.
31:10Like, no, that movie, and then the CGI for, what, did it come out in 98?
31:17Wait, Felty?
31:1898, I think it came out in 98.
31:22It was good.
31:22It looked convincing.
31:23I'm like, oh, child, can't trust nobody.
31:27That movie there was, like, good.
31:30Oh, this is the most exhausting category, I feel like, because it takes so much energy
31:38to, like, describe these things.
31:41So uncomfortable.
31:45Okay.
31:46I hope everybody watching has been writing this shit down, because if you're really trying
31:50to be scared this Halloween season, if it scares us, I'm, I'm positive it will do the
31:55job for you, because I, I can say that these women have seen a lot, but, okay, the scene
32:04that I chose was, I just really wanted to talk about this movie, because I've been fucking
32:10loving it.
32:11I've watched it, like, maybe three times since it came out recently on Shudder, The Beach
32:17House.
32:19Oh.
32:20Cat and Jazz told me about that, and how nasty it was, and I still ain't watched it.
32:25Okay.
32:26It's totally, like, Cronenberg, Watered Down, meets Invasion of the Body Snatchers, kind of
32:38apocalypse thing.
32:42Yes.
32:43It's hard to explain in terms of genres.
32:45Because a couple comes to a beach house in search of fixing their dumbass relationship,
32:55they start realizing this really weird phenomenon going on with the water.
32:59Something having to do with the water is, like, hypnotizing them or controlling them, has
33:05some, under some kind of weird spell, and they start hallucinating, seeing things that
33:10aren't really there.
33:12There's a scene where homegirl, the couple, is on the beach, and she's trying to just make
33:19sense of what she's been seeing.
33:21And all of a sudden, a huge line of Portuguese man-of-war jellyfish.
33:30Now, Portuguese man-of-war, and I worked in an aquarium for five years when I was in high
33:36school.
33:37And so when I saw this, I was, like, I was tripping, because the Portuguese man-of-war is
33:42the most deadly jellyfish there is.
33:45They don't get any more deadly than that.
33:48And they're really scary looking.
33:50They look like dragons almost, and, like, balloon dragons, and they sit on top of the
33:55water.
33:56And so homegirl sees this line of Portuguese man-of-war washed up on the beach.
34:01She accidentally steps on one and totally gets freaked out, is disoriented, whatever.
34:09She goes back to the house, to the kitchen, and finds that, and this doesn't happen in
34:15real life.
34:16This is not how Portuguese man-of-war's operate, but they're scary enough to believe that this
34:22is actually what happens.
34:24So homegirl discovers a parasite in her foot from when she stepped on one of the Portuguese
34:31man-of-war's in her episode on the beach.
34:34And she's sitting on the kitchen floor with some tweezers.
34:39I think it's tweezers.
34:41Yeah.
34:42She's pulling this parasite out of her foot.
34:46And the parasite is, like, conscious, so it's, like, fighting her, and it's trying to
34:50bury itself deeper in her foot with its skin.
34:54And it is nasty.
34:56The last category I have, and this is probably my favorite one, I'm sure it means the most
35:03to all of us, is our favorite Black horror moment.
35:08Ooh!
35:09Yes.
35:10Which is, you know, it's not, we don't have a plethora to choose from, but we have enough.
35:16And I'm sure us being the women that we are pay greater attention to these moments.
35:23So, Jazz, let's hear it.
35:24Let me tell y'all about my dog, Tales from the Hood, 1995.
35:29Let me tell y'all about, not the, I think it's the second story?
35:34I think it's the politician story and the second story.
35:36Whatever.
35:37The story with the dolls.
35:39Let me tell you.
35:41That story, first of all, the dolls are terrifying.
35:44But they get their comeuppance.
35:46Because this, and when I was young, and I watched this, like, five, six, seven, because
35:50I was young, and I didn't understand how racist this politician was, because they're talking
35:57to me like that.
35:58That's going over my head.
36:00You know, I don't really understand.
36:01I know that he's saying some stuff that's not really cool.
36:04That's not nice, because I'm seven.
36:06I don't really know.
36:07But as an adult watching, I'm like, oh, he is giving the underhanded, racist love, overhanded.
36:13He is in the plantation house.
36:15He's like, you are overtly racist.
36:19And your little assistant, he can get it too, because he got tripped up.
36:25Okay.
36:25And the dolls did not forget.
36:27Okay.
36:27They got him too, and they got you, when all the dolls start coming off the page.
36:32The image of one coming off, and it being that white space.
36:36So it's like, stark.
36:37You come and look at the picture, and you notice, and he looks again, and like, more
36:41of them are gone.
36:41Eventually, all of them are gone, and just start eating it.
36:44No, they can't.
36:45And the woman is rocking back and forth, just looking at him, getting ate the fuck up.
36:50That's what you get.
36:51You had so many chances to leave the house.
36:53They warned you, and warned you, and warned you, and you did not care.
36:57And you thought you were better than the slaves.
36:59I mean, not the slaves, but the slaves, but the spirits of our ancestors.
37:03And listen, sis, you are not.
37:04Sorry.
37:05All right, Kat, your favorite Black horror moment.
37:08My favorite Black horror moment, excuse me, is like a personal situation.
37:16It's more so me watching Blackula for the first time with my family.
37:21Blackula, for me, just in general, just Blackula, and then Scream, Blackula, Scream.
37:27And it's really just, for those who haven't seen it, it's really just a story of a man
37:32who gets bamboozled by the white man and becomes a vampire, and now his love of his life is
37:40caught up in the rapture, so now he has to deal with that.
37:43And then he just decides multiple times, like, I don't want to be a vampire.
37:46This shit is tiring.
37:48I ain't got time for that.
37:49All my family dead.
37:50My girl dead.
37:51Ain't nothing to live for.
37:52And at first, he's, like, vengeful, but then he's also like, fuck this shit.
37:55I don't want to live.
37:56And he pulls the same stunt in the second movie, and it's a scary movie, but I also, like,
38:01one of the first times I've actually empathized with who the evil character is supposed to
38:08be.
38:08And I truly dislike that, because there are a lot of movies that try to make me empathize
38:13with the antagonist or whoever the antagonist is supposed to be in the film.
38:17Um, but for Blackwell, I actually felt for his character, because he was tricked.
38:22He was, you know, out here.
38:23The white man was wilding.
38:24Just, it was just disgusting.
38:26Like, Dracula is a shithead.
38:27We already know Dracula.
38:28I was about to say, who would have thought Dracula was racist as hell?
38:31Like, he insulted him, too.
38:33Like, he really insulted him.
38:35Like, and Prince, Mama Wale, Mama Wale, Mama Wale was like, what?
38:43I just came to negotiate.
38:44You gotta disrespect me like that.
38:47It's just such, it's such a good movie.
38:49It's such a good franchise.
38:50It's got a bunch of familiar faces.
38:52And then outside of that, it's like, it's a Black exploitation film.
38:55And I love older films.
38:56And although they're shaky, they're giving us looks.
39:00It's giving me realistic dialogue.
39:03Like, I'm not feeling like, I mean, Hollywood did it live.
39:06But it feels like somebody, granddaddy, who's now my granddaddy, whatever, made a movie
39:11in his time.
39:12And it was fun.
39:13And I enjoy that.
39:15One last thing about Dracula.
39:17Let's go.
39:18Before I jump into mine.
39:20I think the biggest part for me, and especially in the beginning, is the fact that Count Dracula
39:26tried to play on the intelligence of the prince.
39:32Like, you're just this stupid person.
39:34And he's like this intelligent being that's trying to negotiate.
39:37Like, hey, let's stop this.
39:38We can come together.
39:39We can create something for my country or whatever.
39:42And he's just like, no, you're stupid, and you're like, bye.
39:45He's trying to end slavery.
39:47Girl.
39:47He literally was like, we ain't got to do this shit no more.
39:49We can still work out.
39:51Like, thank you.
39:52Like, and you calling me stupid and insulting me.
39:54Like.
39:55I'm tired.
39:56Gracious.
39:57I'm just saying, this shit seems too damn familiar, and the year is 2020.
40:01Hello?
40:03Too damn familiar.
40:04Moving forward.
40:05Mine is kind of personal, too, because I was a huge Alia fan.
40:11Back in the Gap.
40:12Huge, huge, huge Alia fan.
40:14So seeing Queen Akasha do her little thing.
40:21Mm-hmm.
40:22This thing.
40:23I was just like, this bitch is beautiful.
40:25Like, oh, my God.
40:26And, like, a Black woman is the queen of all vampires, like, period.
40:30And that's it.
40:31That's it.
40:32And she was a savage.
40:35Like, just mercantile.
40:37Mm-hmm.
40:39You think Queen of the Damned, and you think Queen Akasha.
40:42You think Alia.
40:44You think of her.
40:45And the fact that you don't really, you don't even get to see her character
40:49until umpteen minutes in.
40:51Mm-hmm.
40:52You know, and it's really just following Lestat and whatever chaos is going on.
40:58Has been.
40:59Like, put some more faith in us.
41:01Just a little more faith in us.
41:03Because, you know, I don't think people really realize that this woman could be the legacy
41:08of this movie and this character is literally protruding through time.
41:13I think that movie came out, like, 98, 99, 2000.
41:18It came out in 02.
41:20Oh, 02?
41:21Yeah.
41:22Because she passed away in 01, and they had to finish it without her.
41:25So, I think, if I'm not mistaken, it came out 01, 02.
41:28I didn't know that they finished it after she had passed away.
41:32Yep.
41:33Rest in peace right now.
41:35Rest in peace, Alia.
41:35Yeah, that was the biggest, that was the biggest thing for me.
41:39Like, they had to finish it without her.
41:40And, like, even her brother had to do some of the voicing for whatever reason.
41:45That was weird.
41:45I didn't know that.
41:46I always just, yeah, that movie was earlier.
41:48I regret her not being the star star of that movie.
41:53Girl.
41:53Because she really deserved it.
41:55And that's how people took it.
41:56You know, they're like this, you know, she is the queen, and she looks like me, and I
42:02can relate to this bad bitch.
42:03I want to be in her shoes.
42:04So, you know, the fans, we made her the queen anyway.
42:08And I think that she deserved all of that.
42:10I really hope that her passing away when she did didn't have anything to do with that.
42:15I, just the penniness of me wants to believe that it was some stupid fucking producer's
42:20fault decision to, you know, hide her for a lot of the film.
42:27But, yeah, I don't know.
42:29But her, you know, that legacy is just strong as hell.
42:32The clip that I chose is the very ending of Get Out.
42:36Everything has gone to shit.
42:38Homegirl on the ground.
42:41She has been shot by the brainwashed, her brainwashed minion, I guess.
42:47And, you know, she's on her last legs.
42:51And he gets on top to finish the job, and he's choking this bitch out.
42:55Next thing you see is the police sirens, the lights reflecting on his face.
43:00And I remember being in the theater and just feeling that, oh, shit, moment.
43:08And, you know, every person of color I feel like has, or every, you know, not white passing
43:16person of color has felt that, oh, shit, moment.
43:20You've ever even just been pulled over for, like, forgetting to use a turn signal or, like,
43:26putting, I don't know, like, a speeding ticket or something that's, you know, not exactly life
43:34threatening to someone else.
43:35But you see those lights behind you, and it's that, oh, shit, moment.
43:40Is there anything here that could be, you know, that could hurt me, that could hurt their
43:45impression of me, and, you know, even if we're completely 100% innocent, it's just that cloud
43:53that hangs over your head.
43:54And just seeing what the fuck happened to Chris, went through some traumatic-ass shit,
44:00especially this is supposed to be the family of his girlfriend, and now he's basically going
44:05to be framed for murder, which is really the only outcome that can happen, you know.
44:11No cop is going to look at a Black man standing over a bleeding white woman and say, you were
44:17the victim, even though that's the case.
44:20So, you know, in my head, when that scene happened in the theater, I was like, this is
44:25it.
44:26He's going to go to jail, and nobody's going to know his story, just like, you know, countless
44:32other Black men that we can only imagine have been put away without even receiving an ounce
44:38of the justice that they are deserved.
44:40And that really hurt me, because I really thought that the movie was going to end this
44:44way, because it's realistic.
44:47And, you know, yeah, this is fantasy, and this is how I escape from thinking about shit
44:53like this that happens to Black men every day, but it happens to Black men every day, and what
45:01makes this instance any different, you know.
45:03Um, and so that was fucking it, and, you know, I was just like, this is how the story is going
45:09to end.
45:10And then you see the car door open, and it says, airport security, and it's Rod that
45:16gets out.
45:17And Chris gets in the car with Rod, and he was like, how did you know where to find me?
45:22And he goes, I am T.S.
45:27Motherfucking A.
45:28We handle shit.
45:31And that was the comedic relief that I desperately needed from that moment.
45:37Consider this shit fucking handle.
45:40It's fucking handled.
45:42And that was the comedic relief that I needed to not leave the theater in shambles, you know.
45:50I would be okay if that, or if the, you know, the terrible truth were the ending that we actually
45:57got, just because it, you know, it's real, and it happens.
46:02But I was able to secure my realm of fantasy that way, and leave on a good note.
46:10I think this scene was so powerful, because I know that every other person of color in
46:15that theater was like, oh, shit.
46:17Yeah.
46:18It was just, you know, I don't, you don't go to the theater and have a whole house full
46:24of people that you know, but that's something that you can know for sure, because this is
46:29an experience that we all share similarly, and maybe I wouldn't experience it myself as
46:36a woman, but, you know, it could have been one of my friends, and it could have been Mac
46:40I over there, or could have been, you know, this lady's husband to my left.
46:46And I know that everyone had the same thought at the same time.
46:52And that never happens in a movie.
46:55That never happens.
46:56Not for our community at all.
46:58And that was the first time that I really felt that an entire community is being represented
47:07in a fantasy way.
47:09And it's bringing our real-life experiences to the big screen without having it be another
47:1612 Years a Slave.
47:19Nobody wants to see another fucking slave movie.
47:21I'm sorry.
47:22Like, none of us asked for that.
47:24I'm not buying no Black trauma.
47:26No.
47:27I get it for free.
47:29For free.
47:30Exactly.
47:31Because we all felt it.
47:32And it was there.
47:34And it was, it was tasteful.
47:36The key word here is, is tasteful.
47:39So, on that note, I want to thank you guys for being on this panel with me.
47:46I want to thank Afropunk.
47:48I want to thank BlurredCon for giving this opportunity to talk about the whack shit that
47:53lives in our brains 24-7.
47:58I would love for everyone watching to, to keep in contact with my ladies here.
48:03So, before we wrap, can each of you tell our viewers where they can find you and plug
48:13that shit.
48:13Whatever else you got working on, what, what's coming up, anything.
48:17Kai?
48:18Um, well, you can follow the podcast at MVHU Podcast on Twitter and Instagram.
48:28Um, we will be making our visual debut in two days.
48:32So, we'll be on YouTube.
48:34Um, and that will be under Kai Effects Horror Group.
48:38Super easy.
48:39And then on Instagram, we are KF Horror Group.
48:43And we're working on the Twitter.
48:44But yeah, that's pretty much it.
48:47Yeah.
48:48Girl, that's scary.
48:51Hey.
48:51So, um, yes.
48:53It's us over here.
48:54Girl, that's scary.
48:55Probably it's us.
48:56Um, you can literally find us at, literally, we're very much one band, one sound.
49:01Girl, that's scary.
49:02Yeah.
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49:19And we have a website, girl, that's, www.girlthatscary.com.
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49:48Oh, that's so cool.
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49:53Pull up on us.
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49:56Also, totally forgot about, um, kiafexhorror.com.
50:01Yes, come on.
50:02What was that?
50:04Yeah, definitely go to kiafexhorror.com, and you can see the interviews that I did with
50:09Zero and Girl That's Scary, both on there.
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50:14You can see all the interviews and articles that I write.
50:16You can see my special effects makeup as well.
50:19It's lit.
50:20It's lit.
50:21And I have been your host, Zero Gravity.
50:24I create horror content on Instagram, Twitter, Facebook, and, uh, happy Halloween, I suppose.
50:33I'm going to be my host.
50:34I'm going to be my host.
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