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00:14want to come on the show to sound off on topics. Ooh, and speaking of sounding off, y'all,
00:20it's time for a little Slade or Shade. Our panelists today are co-host of Marissa Explains
00:27at All podcast, Jamel Jamo. Yes, clap for him. Thanks, guys. Yes, you're welcome. Assistant
00:36entertainment editor, Sidney Scott. Sidney. Hey, Sidney. Oh, you said her name. Yes. And
00:43comedian and co-host of The Real, Lonnie Love. Hey, Lonnie. Welcome, everyone. Welcome,
00:49welcome. We got some hot topics now. As mentioned in the hot list, Monique is sticking by her
00:54comments that she made about Oprah Winfrey, Tyler Perry, and Lee Daniels. Now, the comedian
01:00accuses the three of having, quote, white-balled her in Hollywood, saying her former friend Oprah
01:06exploited her on the exploited her family on the Oprah Winfrey show. Furthermore, when Tyler
01:13called Mo to try and end the beef, she let him have it too. On her Perry Scott podcast, Monique
01:19said, quote, when Tyler Perry called up, he said, I watched your podcast and I saw your pain.
01:25And I said, that's not pain. That's called honesty. Don't get it confused. Ooh. So is Monique
01:32bringing herself more problems by airing out her peers? Or should we applaud her for not backing
01:38down? Panelists, on the count of three. I need to see those cards. Slade or Shade.
01:44What we got? Show it to me. One, two, three. Go. Oh, wait. Okay. You look like you're confused.
01:51We're going to start with the people that are sure. All right, Jamal, Shade, tell me why you say that.
01:56There was a Nike commercial with Charles Barkley when I was a kid where Charles Barkley said he
02:01wasn't anybody's role model. I don't think Monique needs to look for heroes in people that have no
02:06interest in having her as a mentee or being their hero or being her hero. Like, she's looking to Oprah for
02:12way too much. Granted, what Oprah did with her family, that's a separate thing. I don't think
02:17she's being whiteballed. A, because it's a stupid term. But B, because Monique's not that good an
02:21actress. Even though she won the Oscar, she's not that good an actress? What are you talking about, bro?
02:25Three Six Mafia got an Oscar. Wait a minute. Okay. Let me jump in. You look like you were on the fence.
02:31Shots have been fired. Shots fired. Okay. You look like you were on the fence. Explain that.
02:36I'm on the fence because I'm going to say slay because it does take balls to do that.
02:42But shade because, like, you've got to get over it at some point. Like, I'm all about holding a
02:48grudge. I love a good grudge. But, like, this one has been going on for too long. You got to let it
02:52go. 2008. Sister girl. Limey. Can I please step up in here? Because everybody forgets that this was
02:57part of her comedy act. This all came about because somebody taped her 10-second point that she, that we
03:05don't know what she said before or after. And now she has to stick with it. So if she gonna stick with it,
03:11you might as well slay all day and hold the truth. So Monique don't care. You know what I mean?
03:17What does she have to lose? If she's blackballed, she's blackballed. She might as well explain
03:21everything. And I think now she's getting it all out because no one has ever went and actually asked
03:26her, why are you so upset? Yeah. And then we didn't even realize about the whole Oprah Winfrey.
03:33We didn't realize the backstory. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. So now she's just like, forget it. I'm just gonna let it
03:38be known to everybody. So she slammed by letting it know. Do I like it? Yeah. Now that's the question
03:43you didn't ask me. Yes. I don't like it because all four of them have worked really hard to get
03:48where they are in this industry. It is hard getting movies made, getting televisions made. All four of
03:54them have been successful. I would like to see, see them get together and just squash this and start
03:59making movies again. In the name of Rodney King, can we all just get along? Exactly. What are the folks on
04:04Facebook saying? Hey, oh my God. Shade left and right. So Christina Marr says she shot herself in
04:10the foot. I don't think she'll recover from this. Francis Sharp says Monique is very unprofessional
04:14and not ladylike at all. But Madonna Brown says that's her truth and she has a right. Sweet
04:19Zen says I believe she was hurt and this was her way to call them out, but you can't resolve anything
04:23this way. R. Damon says her career was dying and needed a buzz. Malia Brinkley says I think it was
04:30deeper than Oprah Tyler Perry and Lee Daniels. I think it was about raging against the machine
04:34and the hamsters that run the machine. I respect her message.
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