00:00Well, we're a party that accepts talent. If you get people who we believe are talented...
00:05...who will put their shoulder to the wheel, who will help us, but are also prepared...
00:10...to admit honestly the failings of the Conservative Party in 14 years in government.
00:15And particularly in the last term.
00:17Provided they're prepared to put their hands up and say, I'm sorry, we got this...
00:20...badly wrong, they've got experience of being in the front line, which of course I lack...
00:25...then they're very welcome. And I think it's very interesting. I mean today...
00:30...there are two big political stories. One of them is Sowell Abramman joining reform.
00:34The other...
00:35...of course is Andy Burnham being blocked from standing in the Densham...
00:40...by-election. And that's the difference between Keir Starmer and myself. I'm welcoming talent in.
00:45And he's keeping talent out. Well, the Conservative government did break it. Absolutely.
00:50But you see, there are people like Robert Jenrick who resigned as a matter of principle.
00:55People like Sowell Abramman who spoke out on ECHR, said we should leave and was removed.
01:00...from a post. So, we are taking people who tried their best...
01:05...to fight the system at the time. And they admit they failed. And that's why they're here. Look...
01:10I'm not welcoming people like Priti Patel, who says she did nothing wrong, despite opening...
01:15...to the doors to the biggest levels of immigration Britain ever saw. I'm not welcoming Boris Johnson. I'm not...
01:20...we're recognising those who were part of the problem and still refuse to accept it.
01:25We haven't decided yet who the candidate is. Our applications closed last night...
01:30...this afternoon. I think if Andy Burnham had run, he would have picked up an...
01:35...and see Keir Starmer vote. You know, bear in mind, this is the most unpopular Prime Minister.
01:40...in living memory. There would have been a pro-Burnham, Andy Starmer vote.
01:45That won't be there anymore. And I think the anti-Starmer vote will come to us.
01:50Well, look, you know, they've made their decision for whatever reason.
01:53Yes, it's quite possible that Andy...
01:55...Burnham could have won the by-election, but that Labour could have lost...
01:58...the Greater Manchester mayoralty.
02:00That is quite possible. Look, you know, I'm very happy with people who have different points in...
02:05...of you, as long as they're batting for the same team. We've had one or two difficulties over the last year.
02:10We've dealt with them. He's not Prime Minister. He's not likely to be Prime Minister.
02:15He'll have to win a by-election and get back into Parliament. And I think this particular...
02:20...constituency probably offered him one of the best prospects he could possibly have had.
02:25So whatever side of the argument we're on, I think we're stuck with Keir Starmer for a period of time.
02:30There's no way Donald Trump ever, ever, meant the British. Ever. You know...
02:35...and you talk to people in his team, and they're very, very pro this country. And...
02:40...contribution in Afghanistan, pro rata, exactly mapped.
02:45I've watched that of America. The one thing I have picked up from America...
02:50...not him, but other Americans, is their deep concern about what's happening to our Special Forces.
02:55These endless prosecutions, the use of the ECA...
03:00...of the HR against British veterans, if we devalue our Special Forces...
03:05...we make our relationship with America militarily weaker. And we've got to recognize...
03:10...that we are incapable of defending ourselves without Americans.
03:15The fact that he was carrying a gun, of course, meant that he was a threat. Sorry.
03:20You're allowed to carry a gun. Yes, but you don't carry a gun to a protest.
03:23That's the point. If you're going to protest...
03:25...you don't carry a gun, even if it's an open carry state. Look, it looks like...
03:30...ice have gone way over the top. But I'm afraid...
03:35...every single year in America, we see examples of the police, of the authorities.
03:40...that go way too far. But because it's ICE, it's obviously much more controversial.
03:45And I sensed, coming out of the White House last night, they're pretty uncomfortable too.
03:50You know, we do not routinely, as a country, give our police force...
03:55...weapons unless there is an imminent risk of a terror.
04:00...attack. And when it comes to deportations...
04:03...you know, the point is, if people are here...
04:05...illegally, they shouldn't be here. It's as simple as that.
04:08Now, no one's...
04:10...pretending, this will be easy. No one's pretending, there won't be pushback.
04:14But it needs to...
04:15...to happen. Because if it doesn't, you don't stop the flow...
04:18...of people continually coming here...
04:20...and you know, overwhelmingly, the British public think...
04:24...whilst we welcome people...
04:25...from other countries...
04:26...in the right numbers. Illegal immigration has to stop.
04:29And it's very...
04:30...to be near the top of the public's concerns.
