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00:00You
00:15Good morning.
00:16It's Thursday, the 29th of January.
00:20You're watching Europe Today, your morning fix of European news and analysis.
00:25Live on Euronews.
00:26I'm Maret Quinn, stepping in today for Maeve News.
00:30Coming up on today's show, the EU's 27 foreign ministers...
00:35...are in town with Iran high on the agenda.
00:40...were killed in the regime's recent crackdown on protesters, EU ministers...
00:45...are expected to approve fresh sanctions.
00:47Iran is also on high alert this morning for a possible US...
00:50...attack as Trump ramps up pressure on the regime to strike a deal on...
00:55...and its nuclear program.
00:57Standing by for us at the European Council down the road here...
01:00...in Brussels, where ministers are arriving right now...
01:03...is our EU correspondent, Shauna Maret...
01:06...good morning.
01:07Thanks so much for joining us.
01:08Tell us first, what can we expect today?
01:10...in terms of new sanctions on Iran.
01:15As you know, Maret, as you mentioned there, Iran very much back-centre stage.
01:18We saw that post yesterday from the US president...
01:20...Donald Trump saying there's a massive armada on its way to Iran.
01:24He's demanded they cut...
01:25...put a deal on their nuclear program.
01:26He's reminding them of last summer and his strikes against the regime.
01:30...under the code name Operation Midnight Hammer.
01:33Meanwhile, here in Brussels, EU Foreign Affairs...
01:35...behind me, they're going into that meeting.
01:37They'll announce sanctions on 21 Iranian...
01:40...individuals responsible for the violent repression of Iranian protesters.
01:43That's members of the...
01:45...Iranian Revolutionary Guard.
01:46Euronews has the details on these sanctions.
01:48They include people like the chief...
01:50...of police.
01:51There's also going to be sanctions on 20 companies responsible for Iran.
01:55Iran's new program in relation to drones and supporting Russia.
01:59And there will be a...
02:00...internation of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard as a terrorist organization.
02:04This was announced...
02:05...or decided just late last night...
02:07...after France, which was holding out, decided they would support this.
02:10So we heard from Kaya Callas, the EU's foreign policy chief...
02:13...agreeing and saying that this would happen to...
02:15...to today.
02:16Mered?
02:17And, Shauna, also the question of how Europe can prepare...
02:19...to defend...
02:20...itself in an increasingly dangerous world...
02:22...could also come up in these talks.
02:25To defend...
02:30I believe we've lost
02:33Shona there but
02:35we did get that update on
02:36the sanctions that we're
02:38expecting.
02:40to announce including that
02:41blacklisting of the IRGC which
02:43is the Iranian.
02:45We will hear more from Shona
02:47during the day here on
02:48Euronews.
02:50But in the meantime we'll
02:51move on and we're now
02:52moving on to the NATO boss.
02:55Mark Rutte, his comments
02:56earlier this week have
02:57divided opinion across the
02:59content.
03:00Our Jacob Yanis has been
03:03taking a closer look at who
03:05Mark Rutte really is.
03:10fire and his message to
03:12anyone who thinks the EU can
03:14survive military.
03:15militarily without the U.S.
03:17Keep on dreaming.
03:18You can't.
03:19And there is by.
03:20backlash but Rutte doesn't
03:21care.
03:22Why?
03:23Because he's the only
03:24European.
03:25who speaks Trump's language.
03:27But when he takes off his
03:28glasses...
03:30Who is he really?
03:32Meet Teflon Mark.
03:34He was the...
03:35longest serving Dutch prime
03:36minister because absolutely
03:38nothing sticks to him.
03:40He went from riding a bicycle
03:41in the Hague during his
03:43premiership to flying
03:44constantly.
03:45across the Atlantic to put out
03:47NATO fires.
03:48And meet the pianists.
03:50He gave up his dream of becoming
03:52a musician because he claimed
03:54he wasn't good and...
03:55enough but he mastered a different
03:57instruments called consensus.
04:00With the Greenland clashes testing
04:01the alliance, he's working
04:03overtime to keep 32...
04:05nations in tune while Washington
04:07keeps trying to change the
04:08sheet music.
04:10And Brussels calls him the
04:11flying Dutchman.
04:13Not the case of the myth but...
04:15by constantly flying back and forth
04:16to the White House.
04:18He is a top collector of my...
04:20miles and more points.
04:22Finally, meet the good cop.
04:25lamenting Trump's bad cop.
04:27The man who once led Europe's
04:28frugal fall.
04:30refusing to spend a single extra
04:32euro is now pressing Europe to
04:34spend...
04:35five percent of its GDP on security.
04:38And then there is the daddy...
04:40issue.
04:40He once joked that Trump is the daddy
04:43of geopolitics.
04:45Well, judging by the leaked text where
04:47Rutter praises him, it seems Mark
04:49is...
04:50trying very hard to be his favorite
04:52child.
04:53But, Mark, being Trump's...
04:55favorite is a hard job.
04:57And I am sure our friends Elon can
04:59tell you something.
05:00about it.
05:05Jakob Janis there.
05:07Coming up, we'll now be joined by...
05:10Luxembourg's Deputy Prime Minister and
05:12Foreign Minister Xavier Betel.
05:14He...
05:15met the country for a decade up until
05:172023 and he's, of course...
05:20a very familiar face here in Brussels
05:21and will be representing Luxembourg
05:23at the Foreign Affairs.
05:25Council later today.
05:27Minister, thanks so much for calling by.
05:28It's great to have you here with us.
05:30Thank you for the invitation.
05:31So, I know you have a packed agenda today.
05:33Let's start maybe with Iran.
05:35Because we are expecting some tougher
05:37decisions by the EU.
05:40today to clamp down and put pressure
05:41on the Iranian regime.
05:43When you go in a meeting...
05:45you hope, but you wait till the end
05:47to be happy.
05:48So, I hope that we will be able to...
05:50today to agree because we need
05:51unanimity to put, for example, the...
05:55the Guardian of the Revolutions
05:56on the terrorist list.
05:58We need unanimity to...
06:00we need to take sanctions.
06:00We need unanimity to take a list
06:02of persons, of entities, but...
06:05it seems we had two or three days ago
06:07still some countries hesitating.
06:09That...
06:10we moved forward the last 48 hours
06:13and that we will be able to...
06:15have a strong signal
06:16for the Iranian population today.
06:17And this is the right signal
06:19according to you.
06:20despite what it could mean
06:21for the diplomatic channels.
06:23Do you think this is the right move?
06:24Do you think this is the right move?
06:25The fact is we don't have that many moves.
06:27So, we...
06:29we don't...
06:30we are not working like
06:31the USA are working
06:32to send Narmada
06:34and to...
06:35to have the Armada
06:35waiting to bomb...
06:37And what do you make
06:37of those threats
06:38that we've heard
06:38from Trump yesterday?
06:40I...
06:40everything is possible.
06:42The fact is I learned one thing.
06:43You know, I was prime minister
06:44when the...
06:44for the...
06:45all first years
06:45of President Trump
06:46and now he's again
06:48the president.
06:49Everything is possible.
06:50He's also trying to get
06:51a bigger role
06:52in the future of Gaza.
06:53I know that will also
06:54be under the...
06:55what do you make
06:55of his board of peace?
06:57The fact is
06:58if every progress...
07:00for stabilization
07:01of the situation
07:02and a ceasefire
07:03and a...
07:03a final ceasefire...
07:04No.
07:05so permanent ceasefire
07:06not temporarily
07:07and then a strong government
07:09and...
07:10I support a bit of Gaza
07:11is something I support.
07:12But the problem is
07:12now for the moment
07:13we have a parallel UN.
07:15we have a fact
07:15a new private body
07:17if I can say
07:18who will decide
07:18about the future.
07:20of the territory
07:20so it's a bit special
07:21and the Palestinians
07:23are missing.
07:24You have...
07:25the Palestinians
07:26not around the table
07:26when it's going to be
07:27about their territory.
07:29You have...
07:30a president
07:30even if it's not
07:30president anymore
07:31who has a veto right
07:32at life
07:33and then you have
07:34Russia sitting...
07:35around the table
07:35when it's a boat of peace
07:36you just called it.
07:37I just want to remind
07:38that Russia is an aggressor
07:39in...
07:40Ukraine
07:40and so to give the feeling
07:42that they are peacemakers
07:43is a bit special.
07:45So you think this is about
07:46less about the Palestinians
07:47and their future
07:48more about Trump trying...
07:50to supplant the UN?
07:51The fact is
07:52if it helps
07:53I don't want to make
07:54everything bad.
07:55if it brings
07:55positive aspects
07:57on the ground
07:57in Palestine
07:58I will help...
08:00these points
08:00but we need Palestinians
08:01around the table
08:03but the fact is
08:04that Trump is a...
08:05businessman
08:05he wants to have results
08:08quick results
08:08for him
08:09the UN...
08:10is too complicated
08:10but you know
08:11I'm coming from
08:12a small country
08:12if international law
08:14and international...
08:15regulations
08:16are non-respected
08:17anymore in future
08:18and it's...
08:19power...
08:20of the strongest
08:20and the biggest
08:21this is not good for me
08:22and also for a lot
08:23of other countries
08:24it's not good.
08:25He has been challenging
08:26the very rules
08:28on which the
08:28international order
08:29is now...
08:30base
08:30but with Ukraine
08:31he has managed
08:33to get Russian...
08:35and Ukrainians
08:35around the table
08:36does he deserve
08:37credit for that
08:38and shouldn't Europeans
08:40be doing more
08:40to get directly involved
08:41in these peace talks?
08:43I just want to remind
08:43that he was the first one
08:44to...
08:45take President Putin
08:46out of the isolation
08:47bringing him to Alaska
08:48where everybody was...
08:50saying we need to show
08:51that we don't want
08:52to work with him
08:52so here's the first one
08:53we need...
08:55a talk
08:55someone able to talk
08:56with Russia
08:57but the fact is
08:58I just want to remind
08:58that he said
08:59I think it...
09:00was 24, 48 hours
09:01when he was coming
09:02in office
09:02that he would find
09:03a solution
09:04and...
09:05a solution
09:05cannot be
09:06humiliation
09:06of Ukrainians
09:07too many people died
09:08it's time
09:09for the...
09:10talks with President Putin
09:11should Europe
09:12be sending an envoy
09:13to these talks?
09:14If we...
09:15don't have talks
09:15we want to find solutions
09:16you know
09:16I had talks
09:18with President Putin
09:19and President...
09:20Zelensky
09:20three years ago
09:21when I was still
09:22the Prime Minister
09:22and every week
09:23and we had good talks
09:24but...
09:25I have to admit
09:25that I had some
09:26Russians from other
09:27European countries
09:27who didn't want me
09:28to have these talks
09:29they told me...
09:30Luxembourg what?
09:30Is Luxembourg
09:31to be able
09:31to have this talk?
09:32That's a big arrow
09:32because this is...
09:34it's the question of...
09:35human relations
09:35it's not a question
09:36of the size
09:37of the country
09:37who makes a difference
09:38and on the other hand
09:40butsha happened
09:40and after butsha
09:41I was not able
09:41to have these talks
09:43anymore with President Putin
09:44but we need to
09:45talk with them
09:45if we want a solution
09:46if we can't talk to them
09:48we won't find a solution
09:49and if...
09:50if I was too small
09:51to do it
09:51if then the President Macron
09:52or someone else
09:54is able to represent
09:55Europe because they
09:55don't want to talk
09:56to Kayakalas
09:57but I think...
10:00without talks
10:00we won't find solutions
10:01So Macron
10:02anyone else you think
10:03in the continent
10:04who could...
10:05represent...
10:05you seem to know Putin
10:06you've met him
10:07in Moscow
10:08would you be willing
10:09to take on this role?
10:10You know
10:11I don't have the ego
10:12to say that
10:13I'm the right person
10:13to do it
10:14but if people are...
10:15convinced that could be helpful
10:16I will do it
10:17in any position
10:18I don't need to be
10:19on...
10:20in front of the scene
10:20I can do it also
10:21on the back
10:22you know
10:22when I had talks
10:22with President Putin
10:24and President Zelensky
10:25I didn't speak
10:27that much about it
10:28but then when
10:29there was a...
10:30a press statement
10:31from the Kremlin
10:32it was difficult
10:33to deny anything
10:34so...
10:35but if I can be useful
10:36I love to be useful
10:37but I don't have the ego
10:38to say that
10:39I'm...
10:40meanwhile of course
10:41the Ukraine war
10:42is raging on
10:42and Europe
10:43is really having
10:44to think about...
10:45its future
10:45the transatlantic relationship
10:47in tatters
10:48after the recent threat
10:49over Greenland
10:50and so on
10:50how do you see the future
10:51and what do you make
10:52of Mark Ritter's comments
10:53earlier this week
10:54that...
10:55Europe can keep on dreaming
10:55if you think
10:56it can go alone
10:57if it's now
10:58it's like now
11:00for me
11:00in fact
11:00Europe has
11:01a wake-up call
11:02also because of
11:03President Trump
11:03in fact I see
11:05that we have rules
11:06when everything
11:07is in honeymoon
11:08who represents Europe?
11:10I see Kaya Callas
11:11was for example
11:11not in Washington
11:12when there was discussions
11:13with the president
11:13it's her job
11:15so I think it would be
11:16important to see
11:16how we could have
11:17also legitimacy
11:18that for the next European
11:20elections
11:20or the president
11:21of the commission
11:21or the president
11:22of the council
11:23should be someone
11:24who's got a...
11:25legitimacy also
11:25from the electors
11:26that would be
11:27in elections
11:27and they could be
11:28directly elected
11:30so to be the one
11:31who can try to form
11:32the next commission
11:34and then they still...
11:35the majority in parliament
11:36but so that we have
11:37a president of Europe
11:38who is really
11:39the strong person
11:40we are absent
11:41you know there are
11:41discussions in some
11:42countries about Ukraine
11:43Europe is not there
11:45we're going to have
11:45to leave it there
11:46minister
11:46thank you so much
11:47we hope to get you
11:48back in the studio
11:49very soon
11:50now moving on
11:51public backlash
11:52is growing in Italy
11:54over the...
11:55the US's decision
11:55to send officers
11:57from its ICE
11:58immigration agency
11:59to the winter...
12:00Olympics next week
12:01ICE agents were involved
12:03in a fatal shooting
12:04in Minneapolis
12:05over the weekend
12:06for more
12:06we can cross over
12:07to our correspondent
12:08Georgia Orland
12:10standing by for us
12:10in Rome
12:11Georgia
12:12good morning
12:12give us a sense
12:13of what the reaction
12:14is
12:15has been to all of this
12:15in Italy
12:16good morning
12:20well it all started
12:20last Tuesday
12:21when members of Italy's
12:23main opposition party
12:24in Lombardy's regional council
12:26held a formal protest
12:28against the decision
12:29to...
12:29deploy ICE agents
12:30at the Milan-Cortina
12:32Winter Olympic Games
12:33they were...
12:34holding posters
12:35reading ICE out
12:36ICE no thank you
12:37that pretty much aligns
12:38with what Milan...
12:39Mayor Beppe Salah
12:40had to say about that
12:41he said that those agents
12:42are not welcome in Milan
12:43we know that...
12:44AVS another party
12:46launched a petition
12:47which has already gathered
12:48around...
12:4950,000 signatures
12:50criticism has also come
12:52from Italy's main ruling
12:54coalition
12:55and we know that those
12:56ICE agents
12:57have been deployed
12:57at major sports events
12:59in the...
12:59past
12:59not just in the US
13:01but abroad as well
13:02the US Department
13:03of Homeland Security
13:04said...
13:04that those agents
13:05would not be taking part
13:07in immigration enforcement
13:09operations in foreign countries
13:11despite all these assurances
13:12though
13:13the protest...
13:14has not died down
13:16two ICE had protests
13:18that have already been organized
13:19in the next few days
13:20by center-left organizations
13:22and trade unions
13:23the...
13:24argument behind the protest
13:25though
13:25is that
13:26Georgia Maloney
13:27is perceived as
13:27too accommodating
13:29towards...
13:29President Trump
13:30and the United States
13:31this is what
13:32center-left parties
13:33say...
13:34and she has shifted
13:36her tone
13:37recently
13:37trying to...
13:39when she described
13:40those Trump threats
13:42over Greenland
13:43as a mistake
13:44but clearly
13:45when it comes to
13:45high-profile events
13:46such as
13:46the Olympic Games
13:48with Italy...
13:49being under so much
13:50scrutiny
13:51and international exposure
13:53while the issue
13:53is turning
13:54into a major
13:55reputational problem
13:56for Maloney
13:57and her government
13:58if the protests
13:59continue
13:59Georgia
14:01thank you so much
14:02and that brings
14:02this edition of
14:04Europe
14:04Europe today
14:05to an end
14:06thank you for tuning in
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