00:00Democrats have made it pretty clear that they cannot stomach signing off on this DHS bill.
00:05Will we have a partial shutdown on Friday?
00:08I mean, as you suggested.
00:10You know, it is we are running out of time, but, you know, I don't think the ass that we're made or.
00:15Are over over the top, you know, for example, don't deport U.S. citizens, don't.
00:20Detain U.S. citizens.
00:21Those seems like things that we could, you know, figure out a way.
00:25Work out ISIS doing that regularly, unfortunately, certainly.
00:30Detaining U.S. citizens.
00:31That should stop.
00:32You know, another one is where the body cameras.
00:35They've got the money to pay for them.
00:37Put them on, you know, because it's clear we've seen.
00:40This is law enforcement agencies across the country.
00:43It's helpful not only from an evidence.
00:45standpoint when these cases go to trial, but it's also from a managerial standpoint, helps them.
00:50Figure out who's doing a good job and who's not.
00:53Interesting.
00:53So, of course, you've.
00:55Already had a chance to vote on these funding bills.
00:58The House is out now.
01:00Now it's in the Senate's hands.
01:01Do you expect that when the House comes back next week, you'd be able.
01:05To codify whatever changes are made, or could this be a weeks-long shutdown?
01:10I mean, I think we'll have to see, but, you know, the only bill that we splintered off was DHS.
01:15And all of them passed, so we've got all the appropriations bills over to the Senate.
01:20You know, so the DHS holdup, you know, Thune's trying not to splinter that off.
01:25From the other ones, for obvious reasons, but, you know, I think if you can get.
01:30All the other bills done, and they certainly could, and the, as I said, you know, the things were.
01:35Talking about with respect to reforming DHS, we know that this would just be an intermediate.
01:40I think it needs a complete overhaul at this point, at a minimum.
01:45But I think that's the kind of step we need to make, and I'm starting to hear Republican voices.
01:50You know, like Tom Cole, for example, say, yeah, I've got some reservations.
01:55About that shooting, but, you know, we don't want to shut the government down, but I think there is.
02:00Sentiment there that, you know, you kill two civilians, you know, Renee.
02:05Good was unarmed.
02:06Mr. Preddy was disarmed and then shot, looks like.
02:10In the back, and then six times after that, and it also had been pepper sprayed before.
02:15He was shot.
02:16It's a lot, and, you know, I think even Republicans who.
02:20Don't necessarily want to get in the middle of all of this, recognize that, you know, from a.
02:25Legal perspective, this stuff's questionable and needs to be stopped on, I think.
02:30On mass, but the individual cases should be reviewed, and I think probably go to a grand jury.
02:35Well, it's interesting, Congressman, I don't know who, if this is proven.
02:40And the way you just described it should take the fall for this, but there are impeachment articles that have been brought.
02:45Forth with Kristi Noem in mind, the Secretary of Homeland Security.
02:50We saw House Democrats introduce that legislation.
02:55Not that long ago, as a matter of fact, citing any number of issues here, about 120.
03:00Democrats have signed on to those articles, Congressman, would you consider joining them?
03:05Well, I think what they're going to do with those is they've got to update them because they don't have these two shootings.
03:10And, you know, what's taken place with respect to the last three weeks.
03:15As I recall, involved in the articles of impeachment, so I think they would need to be reviewed.
03:20But I think at this point, Noem needs to be removed.
03:23You know, I don't know that Trump will do.
03:25But she's clearly in over her head.
03:27The agency is, you know, running amok.
03:30The chain of command is broken over there.
03:33And the statements she's made.
03:35Especially after these really horrific shootings.
03:40I think are clearly false and suggest that she didn't even look at the evidence before she made the statement.
03:44So.
03:45They need somebody over there with some gravitas who has experience running an agency.
03:50Like the ones in Homeland Security and can get the ship back, you know, upright.
03:55How do you read this move by the administration and are you encouraged by this to have.
04:00Greg Bovino leave the city and the state and have Tom Holman go in.
04:05He's meeting with the mayor tomorrow, as we just heard.
04:07Is this a sign of progress?
04:10I don't know that it is.
04:11You know, some of the statements he's made have not been much better than.
04:15Than the predecessor.
04:16But, you know, at the end of the day, I think what it really comes down to is the men.
04:20mentality about, you know, we're going to flood cities like Minneapolis with thousands.
04:25Of there's five times more, you know, ice agents there than police officers.
04:29Right.
04:30Right now, which makes absolutely no sense.
04:32And they're not trained to do these street types of information.
04:35enforcement.
04:36You can't do that on the fly.
04:37And it's a different type of training.
04:39Street policing is.
04:40Different than border patrol or, you know, immigration patrol and they're not wreck.
04:45Recognizing that, but we're seeing it the hard way and the decisions they're making on.
04:50These shootings, I think, represent the fact that they haven't been trained how to handle these kinds.
04:55of situations.
04:56So, you know, I think getting them out of Minneapolis.
05:00And like a clear change in what that strategy is.
05:04If you want to go after the.
05:05The worst and the worst, get the warrants to get the homicide, the, you know, perpetrator.
05:10And the rapists and the like, everybody wants those guys off the street, but.
05:14You know, the street.
05:15Patrols where they're just grabbing people, breaking out the windows, dragging them out of their cars or.
05:20You know, shooting them in the street after they pepper spray them.
05:23Nobody wants that.
05:24Let's stop that.
05:25Well, Congressman, I spoke earlier today with a constitutional attorney named Robert Mc.
05:30Werder.
05:31Here's what he said about these operations that you just described.
05:35ICE agents are enforcing immigration law for the majority.
05:40Immigration law is a civil violation.
05:43You know what else is a civil violation?
05:45A.
05:45A.
05:46A.
05:47A.
05:48A.
05:49A.
05:50A.
05:50A.
05:51A.
05:52A.
05:53A.
05:54A.
05:55A.
05:56C.
05:55a big show and it's dangerous. And frankly, they're not even deporting as many people as the
06:00Biden administration and the Obama administration did.
06:03When you put your former
06:05state's attorney had on congressman, how do you react to that?
06:08I think he's absolutely
06:10right. It looks like what the Trump administration did was they made big promises about how
06:15many people they were going to deport, then they realized that it's, you know, there's
06:19only so many
06:20murderers and rapists that are out there. And then they just started grabbing people
06:24to meet the numbers.
06:25And they've gone way over the top with respect to, you know, like Alligator Alcott.
06:30Traz and places like that. They're spending billions of dollars on enforcement efforts.
06:35That really aren't making these communities safer. And you're having people who are,
06:39as we saw,
06:40getting detained in violation of constitutional rights. People are dying in custody.
06:45and people are being shot on the street. It's not working. It's not helping.
06:50Stop it. Let's just move on and get back to regular policing and law enforcement in these cities.
06:55Peace.
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