00:00The discussions between the Denmark, the Groenland and the Etats-Unis
00:02about the security of the Arctic are going to start quite quickly.
00:06It's what declared the minister of the foreign affairs affairs, Lars Rasmussen.
00:11The OTAN, on his side, is going to strengthen the security of the Arctic and the Groenland
00:16in the midst of an event of a new mission.
00:18Hello Frank-Alexandre.
00:19Bonjour Marion.
00:20The vote face of Donald Trump at Davos,
00:23indicating that he renonce at the force to take care of the Arctic,
00:26says, Frank, that the Etats-Unis need European marines to operate in the Grand Nord.
00:30Yes, and in 2020, the Alliés have approved the concept of dissuasion and defense for the Euro-Atlantique.
00:36The Marines of the OTAN concentrent their efforts in the Grand Nord
00:40with a permanent presence in this space where navigation needs a particular savoir-faire,
00:46says Vincent Groeselot, from the magazine Mères & Marines.
00:48What is complicated in the areas of the polarity,
00:50it is the environmental conditions.
00:51There is a bank, or if there is no bank,
00:54there can be what we call bourguignons,
00:56des blocks of glass plus or less gros,
00:58jusqu'à des icebergs.
00:59So that means that conditions of navigation are very difficult
01:03because it is necessary to avoid the obstacles
01:05in conditions where there is sometimes a visibility extremely weak.
01:09So it is not a sport of mass,
01:11it requires knowledge, not only in navigation,
01:14but also in operation,
01:15because all these conditions environmental extreme
01:18have also an impact on the capabilities of detection,
01:21for example, of the radar,
01:22but also of the sunars,
01:23because in terms of the quality of the water,
01:25the temperature of the water,
01:27the profondeur, the water,
01:28the surface of the water,
01:29the surface of the sea,
01:30and then we will not do it anti-sous-marine
01:31like we do in the middle of the Atlantic or the Mediterranean.
01:34And the US Navy
01:35We have has the excellence of the European marine seas,
01:40but also theostencard solutions,
01:41in sharp areas of the BET.
01:43With the low arrangement of too many countries,
01:44to the dominant frontier seas,
01:50points to the land field
01:52and Huk is for UK, so the UK, so the double-bras-de-mer
01:57which connects the Atlantic Ocean with the Arctic.
02:01This double-bras-de-mer is extremely important
02:03because the main capabilities of nuclear nuclear wars
02:08part of the base of Severomorsk.
02:10This base is on the peninsula of Kola,
02:12so it is in the Arctic, Russian, not far from the Norway and Finland.
02:16And to get out, these sous-marins must pass along the southern coast,
02:20so it is not necessarily close to the Groenland,
02:24but to have the capabilities of the Groenland
02:27in line with the Island, in line with the Denmark,
02:29in line with the Feroe, in line with the Royaume-Uni,
02:31in line with the Norwich,
02:32it allows to control this zone-in in the same thing
02:35that we call this famous Gliuk.
02:37And the cooperation transatlantic in this Gliuk is so fundamental.
02:41Franck, could you explain the American revirement on the Groenland?
02:44In fact, no one, Marion, has the only way to control
02:47a region so vast and complex, assure Vincent Groeselot.
02:50La grande différence entre nous et les Américains,
02:52c'est que les Européens ont essentiellement une zone,
02:56une grande région qui va de la Méditerranée
02:58jusqu'au Grand Nord à protéger.
03:01Les Américains, ils ont à la fois la façade atlantique
03:03et la façade pacifique.
03:04La réalité, c'est que les Américains ont un taux de disponibilité
03:07de leur flotte qui est assez faible.
03:09Et donc aujourd'hui, même s'il y a 10 porte-avions sur le papier,
03:12en réalité, il y en a au mieux 3, peut-être 4 à la mer,
03:15et c'est tout.
03:16Donc dans ces conditions-là, ils ont en fait absolument besoin
03:20de l'appoint des marines européennes,
03:22parce que seuls, effectivement, ils ne peuvent pas gérer
03:24à la fois l'Est et l'Ouest, le Nord et le Sud.
03:27Voilà, et il y a souvent, Marion, un décalage
03:29entre les discours politiques et la réalité militaire.
03:32Sans coopération, le contrôle du très stratégique espace arctique,
03:37le Guiouk, par les seuls Américains,
03:39aurait tout d'un projet chimérique.
03:41Franck-Alexandre pour la chronique, ligne de défense.
03:46Franck-Alexandre pour la chronique, ligne de défense.
03:50Franck-Alexandre pour la chronique, ligne de défense.
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