Brooklyn Park Police Chief Mark Rooley spoke alongside several police chiefs to raise concerns about recent actions by ICE agents that they say are violating civil rights and eroding public trust.
Rooley said law enforcement leaders support immigration enforcement as necessary for national and local security, but stressed that how it is carried out is critically important. He said police departments have long worked closely with federal partners, including ICE, and have seen agents perform their duties professionally in the past.
However, Rooley said that over the past two weeks, police departments have received numerous complaints from U.S. citizens who say they were stopped without cause and forced to produce paperwork to prove they were in the country legally. He said similar incidents have also been reported by off-duty police officers.
Rooley described one case involving a Brooklyn Park officer who was stopped by ICE while driving. He said agents boxed in her vehicle, demanded paperwork, and drew their guns during the encounter. When the officer attempted to record the incident, her phone was knocked from her hand. After identifying herself as a police officer, the agents left without comment or apology.
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Rooley said law enforcement leaders support immigration enforcement as necessary for national and local security, but stressed that how it is carried out is critically important. He said police departments have long worked closely with federal partners, including ICE, and have seen agents perform their duties professionally in the past.
However, Rooley said that over the past two weeks, police departments have received numerous complaints from U.S. citizens who say they were stopped without cause and forced to produce paperwork to prove they were in the country legally. He said similar incidents have also been reported by off-duty police officers.
Rooley described one case involving a Brooklyn Park officer who was stopped by ICE while driving. He said agents boxed in her vehicle, demanded paperwork, and drew their guns during the encounter. When the officer attempted to record the incident, her phone was knocked from her hand. After identifying herself as a police officer, the agents left without comment or apology.
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00:00Good morning, everyone. I'm Mark Rooley, Police Chief of the City of Brooklyn Park.
00:04Behind me is a bunch of amazing police chiefs that are here in support of a very short but very important message that we want to share with you.
00:12What you won't hear from any of us today is rhetoric of abolish
00:16immigration enforcement.
00:21The truth is, immigration enforcement is necessary for national security and for local security.
00:27But how it's done is extremely important. In fact, we have a long history of working exceptionally well with our federal partners,
00:35including ICE agents, and we have seen the best of them perform their job extremely well in the past.
00:43With that said, recently, as the last two weeks, we, as law enforcement community, have been receiving endless complaints
00:52about civil rights violations in our streets from U.S. citizens.
00:59What we're hearing is they're being stopped in traffic stops or on the street with no cause
01:06and being forced to demand paperwork to determine if they are here legally.
01:11As this went on over the past two weeks, we started hearing from our police officers the same complaints
01:20as they fell victim to this while off-duty.
01:23Every one of these individuals is a person of color who has had this happen to them.
01:30In Brooklyn Park, one particular officer that shared her story with me was stopped as she passed ICE going down the roadway.
01:38When they boxed her in, they demanded her paperwork, of which she's a U.S. citizen and clearly would not have any paperwork.
01:46When she became concerned about the rhetoric and the way she was being treated, she pulled out her phone.
01:51In an attempt to record the incident, the phone was knocked out of her hands, preventing her from recording it.
01:58The officer had their guns drawn during this interaction.
02:04And after the officer became so concerned, they were forced to identify themselves as a Brooklyn Park police officer
02:10in hopes of slowing the incident and de-escalating the incident down.
02:14The agents then immediately left after hearing this, making no other comments, no other apologies,
02:20just got in their vehicles and left.
02:21I wish I could tell you that this was an isolated incident.
02:25In fact, many of the chiefs standing behind me have similar incidents with their off-duty officers.
02:31This isn't just important because it happened to off-duty police officers,
02:35but what it did do is we know that our officers know what the Constitution is,
02:39they know what right and wrong is, and they know when people are being targeted.
02:43And that's what they were.
02:45If it is happening to our officers, it pains me to think of how many of our community members
02:51are falling victim to this every day.
02:55It has to stop.
02:56This behavior erodes the trust that these police chiefs have worked tirelessly
03:01for the last five years, and theoretically the last 60 years,
03:05to stop this exact behavior from happening.
03:08Now, I want to be really clear.
03:11I've called lots of other ICE agents and HSI agents and have talked to a lot of individuals about this.
03:19This is not widespread.
03:22This is a small group of agents within the surge in the metro area that are performing or acting this way.
03:29As a matter of fact, as rumors of this had spread,
03:31I've received phone calls from ICE agents and HSI agents indicating this is not how they act.
03:37This is not what they do.
03:40Regardless, we're calling to action that we have more supervision over the surge,
03:46that this type of civil rights violations have to stop.
03:50With that, I'll turn it over to Chief Henry of the St. Paul Police Department.
03:57Thank you, sir.
03:58Thanks, everyone, for being here.
03:59Again, my name is Axel Henry.
04:01I'm the police chief for the City of St. Paul Police Department.
04:03I want to echo the sentiments that were just said
04:06and share with you that we've had employees for our city
04:08that have experienced some of the same things.
04:11Thankfully, not with firearms drawn,
04:13but traffic stops that were clearly outside the bounds
04:15of what federal agents are allowed to do.
04:19We recognize by standing here today that some might say,
04:22you're only speaking up because this is happening to the cops.
04:25Others will say that we're speaking out against ICE,
04:29and that means we want rapists on the street.
04:31Neither of those things are true.
04:32We want to find some common ground.
04:36Law enforcement has more authority than a general citizen.
04:42That means we have more responsibility in how we behave.
04:46We have to find common ground here,
04:49and we have to figure out a way that these processes,
04:51which are clearly failing if American citizens are being grabbed
04:56or stopped or seized, this can't happen.
04:59We have to make sure that everyone's civil rights are intact.
05:05I truly want to believe that there isn't anybody
05:08on either side of the political aisle
05:10that thinks that people's civil rights aren't important.
05:14They have to be the cornerstone of everything we do.
05:18Yesterday, our country honored Dr. Martin Luther King,
05:23and I was struck by the fact, and I'm paraphrasing,
05:27but he once said,
05:29we must learn to live together as brothers
05:31or we will perish together as fools.
05:34We can't be foolish.
05:36We can't be those fools.
05:38So we are asking that we come together
05:41and figure out a way for this state and this country
05:43to resolve these things before things get any worse.
05:47Good morning, everyone.
05:53Dewana Witt, Sheriff of Hennepin County.
05:56Just yesterday, our nation honored the legacy
05:58of Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.
06:02...to at least remember the history,
06:07not only to remember the history,
06:08but also live in its lessons.
06:11The theme of this year's MLK Breakfast,
06:13make a career of humanity.
06:17And that is what myself and others are trying to do.
06:21We're trying to make sure that humanity remains
06:24in the noble profession of policing.
06:27As I know what it feels like to be stereotyped,
06:30judged, and profiled,
06:32I know firsthand what it means to be seen
06:34before being understood.
06:37Our nation, and particularly our agencies and state,
06:40have worked hard to confront the wrongs of the past.
06:45The work that has never been perfect
06:47and is still a progress in the making.
06:52We know that we have a lot more to do.
06:55But there has been real progress,
06:57and it's very important that we do not lose sight of that.
07:01But today, unfortunately,
07:04we are seeing that progress erode.
07:06I am seeing and hearing about people in Hennepin County
07:10stopped, questioned, and harassed
07:13solely because of the color of their skin.
07:16Solely being the operative word here.
07:19This is not okay now, and it's never been okay.
07:22And now, that same discrimination
07:24is also spilling into the law enforcement community.
07:29Dr. King reminded us that
07:31the time is always right to do the right thing.
07:33And for those of you in a position of leadership,
07:37now is not the time to be quiet.
07:40When we are,
07:42when we have concrete examples of profiling,
07:44we need to do the right thing.
07:47We cannot let people in our communities
07:49think that our local law enforcement leadership
07:53is okay with the actions
07:55that we simply know are not just only wrong, but illegal.
07:59We can't just say this is a noble profession
08:02and not treat it as such.
08:05So what does it mean to be noble?
08:08It means someone admired
08:10for high moral character,
08:13showing qualities like honesty,
08:16courage, generosity, honor,
08:20and often acting in unselflessness
08:22and integrity.
08:24Integrity!
08:25One of the pillars of this profession.
08:27Five years ago,
08:30our city,
08:31specifically Minneapolis and Hennepin County,
08:33became ground zero for civil unrest.
08:37Since that time,
08:38local law enforcement
08:39has been doing the hard, necessary work
08:41to rebuild trust within our communities.
08:45Rebuilding a community
08:46and an environment
08:47where people should feel safe.
08:50Rebuilding our law enforcement agencies
08:52with the people
08:53who honor the humanity
08:55that we want in our communities.
08:58You see, trust isn't just an abstract idea.
09:01Trust means victims of violence feel safe,
09:04calling 911.
09:06Trust means witnesses coming forward,
09:09crimes getting reported.
09:12Trust means that communities
09:13welcome law enforcement
09:14as partners in their community.
09:17You see, we just don't want to be
09:18a part of our community.
09:19We want to be partnered with our communities.
09:20And what's going on now
09:21is stifling that progress.
09:25And on a very basic level,
09:28trust means parents
09:29are not afraid
09:29to let their children
09:30go to school or church.
09:34Business owners
09:34are able to open
09:36and thrive
09:37off of their hard work
09:38of being business owners.
09:41The trust is fragile right now
09:43and it is essential.
09:46It is an essential element
09:47to public safety.
09:48Today, that trust
09:51is being damaged,
09:52broken,
09:53by the questionable
09:54and sometimes unethical
09:56actions of some,
09:58some federal agents,
10:00particularly
10:00in these last recent weeks.
10:03I want to be clear
10:05that I am not saying
10:06all federal agents,
10:07as all of us know
10:08that we have become victim
10:09if somebody
10:10or one person
10:11in law enforcement
10:12does something wrong,
10:13we all pay the cost.
10:15We cannot afford
10:16to be stereotyping
10:17or generalizing anyone.
10:21Our communities
10:22have less trust
10:23in all law enforcement
10:24when this happens,
10:25not just the federal agents
10:27but our local law enforcement
10:28and we're here to stay.
10:31Those harmful actions
10:33causes a ripple effect
10:34through all of our professions
10:36and through all of our agencies.
10:38What I want to assure you
10:41is we are here
10:41because we all believe
10:42that our jobs
10:43are to be done
10:44professionally,
10:46lawfully,
10:47and obviously treating people
10:48with dignity and respect.
10:51Not just marginalized communities
10:53but every single person
10:55who calls Minnesota home.
10:59This time,
11:00this moment,
11:02is the time
11:03to do what's right.
11:04We demand more
11:07from our federal government.
11:09More professionalism,
11:11more accountability,
11:12more humanity.
11:14We demand lawful policing
11:16that respects human dignity.
11:19We should not be at a point
11:20in this profession
11:21or any profession
11:23where you have to teach people
11:26how to treat people.
11:28This is the same demand
11:30we have for our own
11:31public safety professionals
11:32who serve, live,
11:33raise their own children
11:34in our communities every day.
11:37I can tell you
11:38at the Hennepin County Sheriff's Office
11:39our deputies will continue
11:40to serve and always have
11:42professionally, lawfully,
11:43and with the respect
11:44of every person's humanity
11:46as I'm sure all of these agencies
11:47that are represented here today
11:50are also doing.
11:52And with that,
11:52we will all continue to show up
11:54even though times are hard,
11:56even though our law enforcement
11:57is exhausted,
11:59they're being challenged,
12:00they're having to go home
12:01and face their own families
12:03and answer these questions.
12:05We are lucky to have men and women
12:07in this profession
12:08that continue to show up
12:09despite the adversity.
12:11So we want to thank you
12:13for having us here today
12:14and at this time
12:15we'll take questions.
12:16And, yes, sorry.
12:21Warren, I would like to ask
12:23Can you talk about
12:24kind of the emotional distance
12:26and really wanting to
12:28put criminals away
12:30and seeing the constitutional violation
12:35and the racial profiling
12:36that is part of this
12:38mass operation here
12:40with that as the same tool?
12:42Good morning.
12:45My name is Imran Ali.
12:46I am R-A-N-A-L-I.
12:48I'm an attorney here in Minnesota.
12:50Work a lot with law enforcement
12:52from corner to corner.
12:53I think it is.
12:55I mean, that is exactly what it is.
12:56That's a very difficult
12:58issue that's before us.
13:01But the reality still remains
13:03is that the Constitution
13:03applies to everyone.
13:05And we have,
13:09and I think it's echoed,
13:10you know,
13:10with the speakers
13:11that we've had today,
13:12we have federal ICE officers
13:15that are in their line of duty, right?
13:17They have to do what they do, right?
13:19I mean, they're ordered to do so
13:20and they're carrying out
13:21those lawful efforts.
13:23And what we see, though,
13:25is we see people
13:26that are obstructing in that.
13:28As a lawyer,
13:28that's still a violation of the law.
13:30What we can do is
13:32we can talk about the tactics
13:33and the emotion that's there.
13:36And there's a place for that.
13:37And that place is to be discussed,
13:39to be discussed a lot
13:40and also in the courtroom.
13:42And so to give pause
13:44that what's happening here,
13:47there are mechanisms in place.
13:49There are lawsuits
13:50that we all know about.
13:52We've seen them almost every day.
13:53Something's going out.
13:54Those will play out in the court.
13:56But what can't happen,
13:57what cannot happen
13:58is video after video
14:01of our local law enforcement officers
14:05being yelled at
14:06and threatened to by the public
14:08when they're simply there
14:09to work on behalf of the community.
14:12And I've heard from dozens
14:13and dozens of officers
14:14and I've seen those videos.
14:16That can't happen.
14:17And that's what is increasing
14:19this temperature.
14:20It's the rhetoric
14:20and what we're seeing.
14:22Yeah, the question was about
14:39contacting authorities
14:40in Homeland Security
14:41or ICE, Border Patrol
14:43and what was,
14:46is there going to be
14:47any accountability
14:47from the conversations?
14:49Great question.
14:51A complex answer.
14:53I've reached out
14:54to anybody that's willing to hear.
14:56One of the real concerning problems
14:59that I have with this surge
15:00in the metro
15:01is the span and control
15:02in that there are so many
15:05different groups
15:05that do not know
15:06what other groups are doing
15:08or who is out at any location.
15:10And so when you call ICE leadership
15:12or you call Border Patrol leadership
15:15or you call Homeland Security leadership,
15:17they're unable to tell you
15:19what their people
15:19were doing that day.
15:20They're hard to find
15:21a leader to give you to.
15:23They like to give you
15:24a website to go file a complaint
15:26but the complaint requires
15:27identity of the agents.
15:29The agents don't have
15:30name tags on.
15:32They cover their face.
15:33They don't have body cameras.
15:35And the groups that seem
15:37heavily through Border Patrol
15:39that are running
15:40up and down streets,
15:42there's no indication
15:43where they are
15:44on any given day.
15:44So what I get
15:46is lots of questions
15:47that I'm unable to answer
15:49about who did what
15:51or where they did it.
15:53What I will tell you
15:54is I have contacts
15:57through 30 years
15:58of law enforcement
15:58with many different agents
16:00in ICE, HSI and others.
16:04And those individuals
16:06who I've spoken to
16:07make several things clear to me.
16:10This is not right.
16:11They see it occurring
16:12and absolutely believe
16:15it needs to stop immediately.
16:17And they want to make it
16:17quick that it's not
16:18their groups.
16:19They're aware that
16:20there are groups
16:21that seem to be
16:22have less supervision
16:24that they believe
16:26are involved in this.
16:27But the vast majority
16:29of these groups
16:29are doing focused,
16:31legitimate immigration work
16:33that they're tasked to do
16:34and is well within
16:35the bounds of being legal.
16:38to that point
16:41you're alleged
16:42that there seems
16:43to be a small contingency
16:45of federal agents
16:46that are operating
16:47under this racial
16:48profiling strategy.
16:51What evidence
16:52do you have
16:53that this is not
16:53something that's coming
16:54from the top down
16:55from the highest ranks
16:57of our level?
16:57The question is
17:04what evidence do I have
17:04that this is not
17:05coming from orders
17:07from the top
17:07from Washington, D.C.
17:08to act this way?
17:09One, I just fundamentally
17:10don't believe that.
17:11Our federal government
17:12and partners
17:12that we've worked with
17:13that I've worked with
17:14for 30 years
17:14have an exemplary record
17:16of performing
17:17exceptional law enforcement
17:18services.
17:19When we had
17:20horrific events
17:21this summer
17:21and partnered with
17:23some of the finest
17:23men and women
17:24that I've ever had
17:25the benefit
17:26to be around
17:27to help us investigate
17:28a very complex
17:29political assassination.
17:31I've seen the best
17:31of what the federal
17:32government has.
17:33This is not it
17:34with a small group.
17:35With that said is
17:36what we see every day
17:38the contacts that we have
17:39are agents that are
17:41working really hard
17:42in a really tough situation
17:43to do it right.
17:45And I just fundamentally
17:47don't believe
17:48that it's coming
17:49from the top.
17:49In fact, I believe that
17:51I don't think the leaders
17:53in Washington, D.C.
17:54fully understand
17:55what some of their groups
17:56are doing here
17:57on the street
17:57and how much damage
17:58that they're causing
17:59and that's why
18:00we are here
18:01to kind of bring
18:02this to light.
18:03What evidence
18:03is the question
18:04that you asked?
18:05What actual evidence
18:05do I have?
18:06None other than
18:08agents that I've talked to
18:09and leadership
18:10in certain groups
18:11of teams
18:13have made it clear
18:14that this is
18:14unacceptable behavior
18:15that they've never
18:16been told this is okay.
18:17In fact,
18:18that they know
18:19it's not okay.
18:20They're held accountable
18:20to a higher standard
18:21which makes me believe
18:23what I fundamentally believe
18:24that this is a small group
18:25of individuals
18:27performing this
18:28and I will be honest,
18:29this really to me
18:30started two weeks ago
18:31which feels like
18:32was the last surge
18:33of Border Patrol
18:34when they arrived
18:35is when we started
18:36seeing this really
18:37change of behavior
18:38where it's street level
18:39jump outs
18:40or traffic stops
18:41which the federal government
18:43is not allowed
18:43to do traffic stops
18:44and tell people
18:46that they're stopping
18:46them for speeding
18:47which is what we're seeing.
18:48That's not allowed.
18:49They are not able
18:50to do that.
18:51They need to have
18:52reasonable suspicion
18:53that somebody
18:53is here illegally
18:54for them to stop them
18:56whether it's on the street
18:57or whether it's
18:57stop them in a vehicle.
18:59What is a small group?
19:00Are you talking about
19:01business evasions
19:02and handful evasions?
19:04The question is
19:05what is a small group?
19:06I absolutely have no idea.
19:07This is far outside
19:09of my purview
19:10as a local police chief
19:12but what I do know
19:13is it's really impacting
19:14my community,
19:16what my community does
19:17and how they feel
19:18and it's impacting
19:19our brand
19:20as police officers.
19:21Our brand
19:22of how hard we work
19:23to build trust
19:23to police in a way
19:25that builds legitimacy
19:26in what we do
19:27and when people
19:28armed with rifles
19:29that have just police
19:30across their vest
19:31get out and act
19:32a certain way
19:33of course our public
19:35thinks that's us.
19:36Many agencies
19:37that you've probably seen
19:38and many of them
19:39are behind me
19:39have had to put out
19:40pamphlets showing
19:43what a Brooklyn Park
19:44police officer looks like
19:46and what an ICE agent
19:47looks like
19:47to make sure
19:48that we tell community
19:48they are different.
19:49Those are not
19:50Brooklyn Park officers
19:51or St. Paul officers
19:52or Brooklyn Center officers.
19:54Those are ICE agents.
19:55To answer your question
19:56specifically,
19:57I have no idea
19:58what groups
19:59or who it is
19:59or how many
20:00but I know
20:01it is a small portion
20:03of the whole.
20:04Do you relate
20:05one more follow-up?
20:06What message
20:07you made a sense
20:07to the public
20:08in view
20:08of police chief
20:10who had decades
20:11of a long-term experience?
20:13What message
20:14you made a sense
20:15to the public
20:15when you are
20:16having a hard time
20:17getting answers
20:18from the Department
20:19of Human
20:19of Human
20:21Yeah, the question
20:22is what messages
20:23to send to the community
20:24if I as a police chief
20:25have a hard time
20:26getting answers
20:27how does that
20:28leave the community
20:28for them to get answers?
20:30I think it makes
20:31them feel lost
20:33and makes them feel
20:34concerned
20:34and makes them feel
20:35fearful
20:35and that's why
20:37and that's why
20:37we're here today.
20:38Chief,
20:39we are James
20:39for the
20:40JSTP
20:41really for people
20:42here
20:42in the long
20:43last few years
20:44they're getting
20:44these complaints
20:45I'm wondering
20:46is there anything
20:48that your agency
20:49or are you investigating
20:51any complaints
20:52that you assist
20:53or anybody else
20:54is bringing up
20:54in terms of
20:55investigating them
20:57do you have
20:58any jurisdiction
20:58to investigate
21:00these complaints?
21:00Yeah, the question
21:15is about jurisdiction
21:16and when we get
21:17those complaints
21:18what do we do
21:18with those?
21:19Again, really difficult
21:20because we have
21:21the federal government
21:22and we also have
21:23on the state side
21:24of it as well
21:24obviously I know
21:26that any law
21:28enforcement department
21:29in Minnesota
21:29is going to take
21:30any complaint
21:30that they get
21:31but what sort of teeth
21:33do they have?
21:34What sort of enforcement
21:34do they have
21:35under the law?
21:36That is different
21:36again, the big issue
21:39here is it seems
21:40that people are just
21:41that rhetoric
21:42is just passing
21:42like this
21:43everybody's passing
21:44and then they're
21:46saying things
21:47and they're not
21:48getting it
21:49in their head
21:50but it's clear
21:54that those avenues
21:56that can be utilized
21:57for the United States
21:58citizens that feel
21:59that something
22:01is happening
22:01we've seen those
22:02lawsuits
22:02and those lawsuits
22:03are appropriate
22:04and the courtroom
22:05where those are
22:06discussed
22:06that's appropriate
22:07as well
22:07but as far as
22:08the mechanism
22:09for us to
22:10investigate those
22:11on a state side
22:12it's just not there
22:12We'll take a couple
22:14more questions
22:15We know that we've
22:36talked with leadership
22:38within our federal
22:39authorities
22:41and there has been
22:42question about
22:43the amount of training
22:44is the training
22:44consistent with
22:45what they were getting
22:46say six years ago
22:47are they going
22:48through flexi
22:49and then what is
22:49the vetting process
22:50like
22:51those have been
22:51conversations again
22:52at some of the
22:53highest levels
22:53that we've had
22:54again they don't
22:55share that stuff
22:56with us
22:56but I get the sense
22:58that there are
22:59some mutual
23:00feelings
23:01and that the training
23:03some of them
23:03are not well trained
23:04and again I want
23:05to be careful
23:06because we do know
23:06that there's some
23:07that has impeccable
23:08training
23:09and are good
23:09at their jobs
23:10but we are seeing
23:11an influx here
23:12you know
23:12to the question
23:14earlier
23:14you know
23:15what's a small number
23:16Minnesota
23:18we're seeing this
23:19in different areas
23:19it's not just
23:20the metro area
23:21we're hearing about
23:22it in other areas
23:23it's the impact
23:24this is one of those
23:25things where you
23:25don't worry about
23:26the numbers
23:26we need to talk
23:27about the impact
23:28on what that
23:29one, two, three,
23:30four, fourth
23:31incident is causing
23:32to all Minnesotans
23:34well we have
23:53spoken to some
23:54leadership both
23:55locally
23:57with their supervisors
23:58but also there's
23:59been a series
24:00just as recently
24:01as this morning
24:02and I think
24:02there's actually
24:03another one
24:03scheduled for this
24:04afternoon
24:04where higher up
24:06elected officials
24:07are meeting with
24:07law enforcement
24:08leaders from all
24:09over the state
24:10as you can imagine
24:11some jurisdictions
24:11are a lot smaller
24:12than others
24:13but we're pulling
24:14that together
24:14to get that
24:16combined message
24:17what we're trying
24:17to get out there
24:18is that this isn't
24:19just a one-off
24:20this isn't something
24:21that's being experienced
24:22in the way that maybe
24:22it's being described
24:23all the time
24:24on the news
24:24that these are very
24:25specific complaints
24:27that are happening
24:28literally everywhere
24:29in our state
24:30and so we're trying
24:30to gather that
24:31as a combined voice
24:32and we're really
24:33trying to make it clear
24:34we understand
24:35that there is a feeling
24:36right now
24:37that if you stand up
24:38and say something
24:39there might be a
24:40retaliation against you
24:41none of us want that
24:42none of us are suggesting
24:44that there isn't a
24:45legitimate lawful authority
24:46to operate here
24:47as federal agents
24:48but we are trying
24:49to come together
24:50to say can we please
24:51find a pathway forward
24:53can we find a way
24:54to make sure
24:55that we can do
24:56these things
24:57without scaring
24:57the hell
24:58out of our
24:58community members
24:59and freaking
25:00everyone out
25:01people are afraid
25:02right now
25:03and I get it
25:04we watch the news
25:05and we see very
25:06very angry groups
25:07of people
25:08out protesting
25:09but the people
25:10that we're dealing
25:11with as police chiefs
25:12are the people
25:13that are scared
25:14to death
25:14that are afraid
25:15to go outside
25:16not because
25:17their status
25:18is in question
25:19but because
25:20they're hearing
25:22and they're seeing
25:22that they know
25:23people that are
25:23getting stopped
25:24by the way
25:24that they looked
25:25and they don't
25:25want to take
25:26that risk
25:26thank you
25:28thank you all
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