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00:00Dub Nation, it's Jimmy Butler.
00:02You're listening to Willard and Dibs on 95.7 The Game.
00:05Coming to you live from the Laughing Monk Studios.
00:10Does he ever suit up for the Dubs again?
00:13What do you think?
00:13Yes, of course.
00:14You think so?
00:15Yeah, no doubt.
00:15Oh, I think there's doubt.
00:17I get where you're coming from.
00:19He is untradeable.
00:22Right now.
00:24Right.
00:24A long time between now and when he's healthy again.
00:27I mean, you're asking a team to have that much money worth of expiring,
00:32like that much money worth of player that they want to give up to get in expiring?
00:37There aren't that many teams that have that many bad contracts, $54 million worth?
00:41I think that you underestimate how often teams think about things solely financially
00:46and want to get out from underneath big stars.
00:49But I think...
00:50Dallas wants it.
00:50Atlanta just did it.
00:52The Warriors are now...
00:53Dallas did it and they got a player back that they thought was going to help them.
00:56No, no, no.
00:56Dallas is about to do it again.
00:58Right.
00:58They just want out from underneath that sucker.
01:01Right.
01:01But it's because they tried it once and then they had to get out from underneath it again
01:05because they got the wrong guy in.
01:06Right.
01:07But I don't think Dallas is looking for, we want a great player in return.
01:12They are looking to get out from underneath the money.
01:15Again, Atlanta just did it.
01:17Dallas is probably going to do it.
01:19Pacers kind of did it.
01:21Once Halliburton got hurt, look at the way they behaved.
01:24Halliburton got hurt and they're like, you know what?
01:26Screw this.
01:26We're not winning next year.
01:28Here you go.
01:29There goes Miles Turner.
01:30See you later.
01:31Like, so...
01:32I mean...
01:33I mean, Davis has 58 million and then 63 million.
01:37Right.
01:37And they would like out from underneath it.
01:39Good luck.
01:39Yeah, I'm sure they would.
01:40I'm sure they would like it.
01:41Let's see how that works.
01:43And the Warriors would like to get out from underneath Butler.
01:45So, it happens.
01:48We'll keep going on the phones.
01:49Here's Anthony Slater today on ESPN with regard to the Butler injury, torn ACL, and how it impacts Jonathan Kaminga.
01:55In a small way, the timing wasn't horrible.
01:58It's two weeks until the trade deadline.
01:59They can alter plans.
02:01They have time.
02:01I mean, I'm sitting here in the arena now.
02:03Their front office, you know, I guess basketball operations are two floors down over there.
02:08And they're doing what we're doing today.
02:09They're assessing, you know, the aftermath of this.
02:12And then they're deciding what they should do in the next few weeks.
02:14What picks should be on the table?
02:15Should they be more aggressive?
02:16Should they be less aggressive?
02:17What players should they get now?
02:19Do they have to just throttle this back and accept the reality?
02:23But also, this, you know, cover your ears, Brian Windhorst.
02:27But this is going to add another chapter to the Jonathan Kaminga saga.
02:31I've already been given indications that today they're exploring the idea of restarting the engines, entering Jonathan Kaminga, potentially back into the rotation.
02:39And from the Kaminga side, his feelings towards the organization and Steve Kerr and this situation and his long-term desires have not changed.
02:46And I use organization key there because it's not just the Steve Kerr thing.
02:50But I have also been given indications he is telling them he will be ready if called upon.
02:55And I do think we're about to get another chapter of this.
02:57Oh, my gosh.
03:01It's just, it's never going to die.
03:03All roads.
03:05All roads lead to Kaminga.
03:06Super interesting, though, don't you think?
03:08What he said there at the end, first of all, not only the part about, yeah, like if they point to him, he will go.
03:13Also, did you catch that?
03:14Like his frustrations are not solely about Steve Kerr.
03:18Right.
03:18Not organization-wide.
03:20Not that, I don't think his teammates, but I've long tried to fight this battle.
03:25I've given it up because I've just lost in the whole world of social media.
03:28But everybody thinks that Steve Kerr is just Lee Harvey Oswald out there acting alone, hating Jonathan Kaminga as if there aren't multiple, many, many, many, many opinions that have led to this situation.
03:42Well, and the big opinion for the Kaminga side is that if you go back two years, he wanted the contract that everyone else in his draft class was getting.
03:50He wanted five years and 150.
03:52He wanted that big money, and they didn't give it to him.
03:54And so I think that when you go back to that from their side, that's where the distrust lies because whether or not he got enough playing time, that's fine.
04:03That's Kerr.
04:04That's Dunleavy.
04:05That's whoever else it is.
04:06But Kaminga wanted more money than what he eventually got.
04:09So, yeah, I can see where the distrust goes a lot deeper.
04:12Let's go to Daryl in Richmond.
04:14Daryl, thank you for calling.
04:15What you got?
04:15What's going on?
04:18Hey, thanks for having me on, guys.
04:20Listen, I think this would be a win-win for everybody.
04:23If they trade Kaminga and Butler for Zach Levine and DeRozan and they also give up a pick, I think Kaminga gets to go to Sacramento where he's wanted to go.
04:34Sacramento gets off the two players that they want to get off.
04:37Yeah, they had to take that expiring contract, but that works in their favor plus the pick.
04:42We get two guys that gives us a puncher's chance, man.
04:46That's all we can really ask for in this situation because trying to get off Butler's contract is going to be hard.
04:52And Curry still has a chance to go out winning.
04:54So, wait, give me the deal.
04:55Daryl, give me the whole deal again.
04:57What's the deal?
04:59So, Zach Levine and DeMar DeRozan come to us.
05:03We send out Kaminga, Butler, and a pick.
05:07I don't, yeah.
05:08Okay.
05:09Daryl, thanks.
05:10I don't think Sacramento would do that.
05:14Like, I don't, I, I, maybe for the pick, but I'm with you on that, Debs.
05:21Like, I don't think Jimmy's contract is tradable today.
05:25I, I don't think.
05:27Like, sure, it's expiring next year, but.
05:30Right.
05:31The money is just gargantuan.
05:33By the way, I'd also battle back of the idea that Zach Levine and DeMar DeRozan give Steph a chance.
05:38I don't think much of Zach Levine.
05:40I don't either.
05:41I mean, he's empty calories.
05:42He's like Froot Loops.
05:44You love to have it.
05:44And, you know, not a lot of nutritional value, but.
05:47You'll have a couple of bowls for sure.
05:49And you watch the milk turn different colors.
05:51It's like, yeah, Froot Loops.
05:52Awesome.
05:53Can't wait to have another bowl.
05:54And then you eat your second bowl and you're like, man, I'm still hungry.
05:57Mom, can I have a couple of eggs?
05:59Whenever, whenever mom bought Froot Loops, I was like, what did I do right so I can do that again?
06:03That's right.
06:04What did you do that for?
06:05Empty calories.
06:06That's Zach Levine.
06:07Yeah.
06:07And so Jimmy Butler right now, like his contract for next year is 50 whatever million.
06:12And this is where it's different than Trey Young, a guy who actually can play basketball and his contract is not even 40 million.
06:18And it's not quite expiring yet.
06:20So if you want to look at all the different deals that are out there, Jimmy Butler off an ACL where you don't know how he's going to respond next year, even if he plays.
06:30And so, yeah, if you trade for him now, you're going to go ahead and eat about 25 million this year.
06:36And you're going to eat the whole 55 million next year.
06:39That's the thing.
06:40And you're not really getting a whole lot of basketball that you can count on.
06:43Yeah.
06:43Well, I mean, in theory, you'll get some basketball in some form next year.
06:47You might.
06:48Maybe.
06:48You might not.
06:49But, no, Sacramento is trying the same thing now.
06:51Again, if we sometimes it's kind of like the Jordan Poole, Chris Paul thing.
06:55I don't think the Warriors were looking at Chris Paul as a basketball player.
07:00Chris Paul was a contract.
07:01He was an asset, and the asset he was was that he took Jordan Poole's contract, and he allowed the Warriors to be done with it in one year as opposed to three or four.
07:12So if you look at it through that lens, Sacramento is looking to get out from bad contracts.
07:19I think they think they can do that without taking on what as bad of a contract as Jimmy's has just become.
07:29That was already going to be a hard contract to trade.
07:32The Warriors didn't want to trade it, so it didn't matter.
07:34But now it's all of that money for someone who's not going to play.
07:38Right.
07:39And then he's going to return coming off a torn ACL and be 37 years old.
07:42And he's going to return, quote, unquote.
07:45Like, there's no guarantee that Jimmy Butler is going to go to Sacramento and be like, yeah, it's November 18th.
07:51I'm ready to play basketball, guys.
07:53I mean, Jimmy Butler is a guy who has, you know, been known to play in spots where he wants to play and not play where he doesn't want to play.
08:02So if you're Sacramento and you look at the reality of Jimmy Butler coming off an ACL, and at that point you're probably going to be a bad team,
08:09are you expecting Jimmy Butler to come in and be a good soldier and play 50 games and, you know, try like heck at 37?
08:16You've got to be kidding me.
08:17Let's go Trevor in Rohnert Park.
08:19Hi, Trevor.
08:19Thank you for calling.
08:20Hey, what's up, guys?
08:23What's up?
08:23I'm looking at this situation, and I just look at it.
08:27There's only two options here.
08:29And one I can't believe I'm saying is that I would love to hear, and let me respond to this if you would.
08:36What would, what's the, why do we not trade Steph Curry and just get as many draft picks as we can and just start all over?
08:43I don't know why.
08:44I can't believe I'm saying that.
08:45But let me just ask you, what is the reasoning not to trade him now if you can't put a team around him
08:49that can compete again if we know that's going to happen?
08:53One billion dollars, Trevor.
08:55I think there's only two ways you can do this.
09:02You can trade Curry and stack draft picks and start all over from zero, or you have to trade, you have to empty the cupboard except for Steph Curry and try and go get somebody.
09:14Whether it's Giannis or whoever out there, you can grab giving drafts, future draft picks up and giving away just pretty much everybody.
09:22And that includes, and that includes Draymond.
09:24Yeah, Trev, I, like, you're a big, long-time Barrier Sports fan, right?
09:28Like, you're an actual fan of the team?
09:31Yeah.
09:32Okay.
09:32Absolutely.
09:33Well, you, okay, Trevor, thank you.
09:35You said that sort of the same way Steve Kerr, you know, I do.
09:38Right.
09:38Like, yeah, I, I, every single time someone, I do, I do, but whenever someone calls and says, trade Steph Curry, the same thought goes through my head.
09:48You don't understand the fan base, do you?
09:51You don't understand money.
09:52People, well, there's that.
09:54There's that.
09:54I mean, forget the fans.
09:55No, but, but.
09:56If I'm Joe Lacob and I've got the ultimate golden goose in the history of pro sports.
10:01But they're connected.
10:01Why is he worth so much?
10:03Because the fans love him.
10:03Because of the fans.
10:04Right.
10:05Like, people would be in the fetal position on the street crying if they got rid of Steph Curry.
10:11You can call that crazy, but it just is.
10:15Do you know, if I said the name Nico Harrison, what comes to mind?
10:21He would trade Steph Curry.
10:22Right.
10:22That's what comes to mind.
10:23Yeah.
10:24He got himself fired.
10:25Uh-huh.
10:26Got himself fired real hard.
10:27Mm-hmm.
10:28That guy needs security to go places.
10:30So, yeah, I, I, whenever someone says that, I'm like, you can make it make sense to me.
10:38Sure.
10:39NBA trade machine.
10:40But it doesn't make sense.
10:41One billion dollars.
10:43There's just no way.
10:44He's worth a bill.
10:47It might be worth more.
10:48Right?
10:49It might be worth more.
10:50Go and trade him and let's get five draft picks.
10:52God, there would be marches.
10:54There would be protests.
10:55Yeah.
10:55Yeah.
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