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00:00Hello and welcome along to episode 7 of the Traitors Uncloaked, the visualized companion podcast with me, Ed Gamble.
00:07This is your obligatory spoiler alert. If you haven't seen that action-packed 7th episode yet, get it watched.
00:13Then come back and enjoy the chat fest we have ready for you.
00:16Coming up on Uncloaked, she's here, one of the most entertaining faithful ever, Harriet will be answering all our questions about that incredible hour of TV.
00:24We have the exclusive moment Harriet found out the identity of our traitors.
00:28Plus, celebrity faithful Clare Balding and series 1 OG Maddie give us all their reactions to the latest castle action.
00:40Welcome, welcome to both of you. Maddie, welcome back to Uncloaked.
00:43Thanks.
00:44Clare, welcome to Uncloaked for the first time.
00:46Thank you very much.
00:46And we know why you're both here. It's not to meet me, it's to meet the amazing Harriet.
00:50Oh my God, so excited about meeting her.
00:53Are you enjoying the series so far?
00:54Love it.
00:55Oh my gosh.
00:56It's amazing.
00:56Love the twists. Love the strong knitwear game.
01:00There's a lot of good knitwear flying around.
01:02There's a lot of good knitwear.
01:03Yeah. Tom Daly will be livid.
01:05Oh my God, can you imagine?
01:07We need to discuss the traitors' decision in the turret at the end. We're going to start at the end.
01:12They've decided to murder instead of recruiting.
01:15I think that's so dangerous. So dangerous.
01:17Even though they've narrowed it down to three players, and we know as a viewer, two of them have a shield, it's 33.3% chance that they'll get it right.
01:25We said this, didn't we, Claire? What is it?
01:27Yeah.
01:2866 to 1.
01:29It's 66 to 1, getting it right.
01:31Because two of them, she knows horse stuff.
01:34Apparently I do.
01:36Apparently I do.
01:37No, no, you know what I mean, like the probabilities.
01:40Anyway, it struck me as a big risk.
01:42Big risk.
01:42There's way more chance of getting it wrong, obviously, than getting it right.
01:46And if they had recruited, they could have said they'd murdered, but then Rachel or Stephen, who both have shields, could reveal their shield and go, they tried to murder me.
01:56Yes.
01:56And that, I would have thought, would have been the clever play.
01:59Do we think their choice to murder is the start of their plan to recruit Matthew?
02:04Because this is, so far, if they try and murder Jesse, that's what he asked them to do in the confessional.
02:10Do we have a deal?
02:10So they seem to be thinking, let's try and stick to what he asked so he still trusts us, and then we'll recruit him.
02:16Yeah, that's interesting.
02:16I think so.
02:17That would be a good idea.
02:18Yeah.
02:19But Stephen is not going to murder Jesse, because Jesse is the one thing he's got that proves he's faithful.
02:25And Jesse's so believable.
02:27Remember, she was in the room, and now they've got Fiona.
02:29You're right, with the library theory.
02:31Exactly, in the library.
02:33She needs to stay in the game for Stephen.
02:35I don't think they murder Jesse.
02:37Well, they can't anyway because of the shield.
02:38They can't, she's got a shield.
02:39But you think they won't even try and murder Jesse.
02:41It's potentially between Adam and James.
02:44There was the amazing scene where Harriet called out the traitors in the confessional.
02:49Let's remind ourselves of that moment and your reaction as you watched.
02:54I think we all know that the gig is up for Rachel.
02:57Oh my God.
02:59I am as certain as I possibly can be that Rachel is in that confessional.
03:07Rachel, you're right?
03:08I think tomorrow that it will be very interesting to see who acts in Rachel's defence, as I will have no compunction in going after her.
03:22And you know what?
03:23You can't murder me tonight.
03:24I think my heart stopped for a bit.
03:28Yeah, same.
03:29Because it's the setting as well, isn't it?
03:31And it being, you know, if I were Rachel, I think I'd have yelped like a puppy.
03:35Yeah.
03:36I know you're in there.
03:38What I liked is she did admit she was terrified.
03:41And you could see it.
03:42I was scared for her.
03:43I was scared.
03:44Because she was not expecting this at all.
03:45She had no idea that Harriet had any suspicion on her.
03:48But there's something about it being in a church when Harriet was coming for her as well.
03:54It makes it even more like, oh my God.
03:57Good scarf though from Harriet, wasn't it?
03:58Great scarf.
03:59Writer.
04:00Yeah.
04:00I don't think we focus on the same things when we're watching the show.
04:03Oh no.
04:04Maddy, do you think Rachel's going to crack under the pressure now?
04:06Well, with her FBI training, I think hopefully not, you know, because that stanza in good stead.
04:13Yeah.
04:14But yeah, she does go red a bit, doesn't she?
04:17And so maybe she's feeling the pressure of the church, you know what I mean?
04:22I think she's really solid though.
04:24I mean, I think genuinely, Harriet's the one that scared her the most.
04:27So if Harriet hadn't gone at the round table, they would have murdered Harriet.
04:31Because they would have had to.
04:33Rachel would have had to.
04:34And that would have put her under the spotlight way more than what actually happened.
04:37No, I agree with that.
04:38Way more.
04:39Yeah, totally.
04:39And I think Rachel kind of looked a bit scared during that confessional thing,
04:43which is one of the most terrifying confrontations we've ever seen on the show.
04:46Oh, yes, I agree.
04:47So the fact that she didn't completely crumble there was...
04:49And at breakfast, you know, you're sat down at breakfast, Harriet's coming in and throwing
04:53accusations straight away.
04:54She held it together.
04:55She was so lucky.
04:56She got into breakfast first then.
04:57Yeah.
04:57And then also you've got time to settle yourself and it's, you know, you've got time to have
05:01a coffee and a bit of a melon.
05:02She's thought about it, hasn't she?
05:04A little bit closer.
05:04And chamomile tea.
05:05Chamomile tea.
05:06Well, that calmed Harriet.
05:07It calmed Harriet.
05:08Yes.
05:08Well, that's a good look though, isn't it?
05:10You'd be like, well, someone's having chamomile tea.
05:12They must be stressed about something.
05:13They could be a traitor.
05:13Oh, good point.
05:14Yeah.
05:15Yeah.
05:16We do need to touch on all the shield drama in this episode.
05:19A lot of shields.
05:20A lot of shields knocking around.
05:23Seven?
05:23Yeah.
05:24Well, yeah, they were so shocked to see that seven players had taken shields, wiping £7,000
05:28off of the prize money.
05:30Now, obviously, both of you died in the wool faithful.
05:33Yes.
05:34Of course.
05:34I got a shield though once.
05:36Yeah, me too.
05:37And I really went for it.
05:38Isn't it a great feeling?
05:39Terrific feeling.
05:40Yeah, but it's a great feeling, but you got it legitimately in full view of everyone.
05:44Yeah, I worked and then just popped up.
05:44Would you have secretly taken a shield from underneath the statue?
05:49I think so.
05:50You would have done?
05:50Yeah.
05:51And then I think it's better when you keep it quiet and just try and be like...
05:55See, I wouldn't.
05:56You wouldn't?
05:57No.
05:57Terrible at that.
05:59Actually, just a terrible, terrible liar.
06:02You're not a terrible...
06:03Well, I don't know.
06:05I don't know.
06:08No, I think at that point...
06:09I think at that point...
06:10I know you're going to say birds and souls that you're not a terrible person.
06:13The kindest thing to say is you are.
06:14You are a terrible liar.
06:16Don't lie to me.
06:19Now, obviously, with the mission...
06:20Yes.
06:20With the shields...
06:21Yes.
06:22Sam's aim was for the group to just take one.
06:24That was the agreement.
06:25They're taking one shield and to not tell the others that it's Jessie who had the shield.
06:30Do we rate that gameplay?
06:31Yeah, I don't know what got into James' head, apart from feeling...
06:35But you let the rest of your camp down then.
06:38And I just think, if you're going to be a team player, be a team player.
06:41Yeah, I think he got carried away.
06:43I think Adam's really disappointed in him because Adam knows.
06:46Yeah.
06:46Right, we have so much to discuss with our latest banished player.
06:50Harriet is about to join us here on Uncloaked.
06:52But first, here's the exclusive moment she found out who the traitors are
06:56immediately after leaving the castle.
07:01It was a banishment that was needed in order to establish the truth of my faithful status.
07:09And also, I think, to be fair, I had had quite a big exit.
07:15It was perhaps time not to be the last at the party.
07:19I think that it was probably my moment to depart, and I did it on my own terms.
07:25I don't think many can say that with this game.
07:28My number one thoughts on traitors, on who the traitors are, are Rachel, maybe Roxy,
07:37and then, for the most glorious plot twist of all, James and Jessie with Sam.
07:45But, you know what?
07:47It could be anyone.
07:49I can't wait to see if my suspicions are correct.
07:54Oh, my goodness me.
07:56Oh, my goodness me.
07:58Here we go.
07:59Deep breath.
08:00Stephen!
08:05Oh, Stephen!
08:08A good Lewis boy there.
08:10I like that.
08:12Representing for the Western Isles.
08:14That is tremendous.
08:16Oh, he has done a brilliant job.
08:20Good for him.
08:20I mean, you know, in the worst possible way, but good for him.
08:24And the next one is...
08:26It's Rachel.
08:35It's Rachel.
08:36Oh!
08:41Sorry, forgive me.
08:43It's just really nice to be right.
08:45And what is lovely about this is that now I can really cheer on Team Faithful,
08:54and I just really hope that if they end up up against Rachel,
08:59I think that I've done enough to ruin Rachel's credibility at the end.
09:06And Harriet's with us now!
09:08Welcome, Harriet.
09:12Welcome to Uncloaked.
09:13Thank you for having me.
09:14We loved watching you find out who the traitors are there.
09:17Obviously delighted to be confirmed that Rachel's a traitor.
09:21Yeah, that was a frightening moment.
09:24I mean, I'd put so much on it.
09:25You've seen how I was at round table.
09:28You've seen how I was at breakfast.
09:29If her name had not been there, it would have been, I think,
09:34the biggest humiliation of my life.
09:36And so it was just such a relief.
09:39And it doesn't make...
09:39You know, all the other mistakes just fade into complete insignificance.
09:43That, you know, yeah, just nailing that.
09:46You know, however much it didn't do me any good, I was right.
09:51You know, I was right.
09:52And that is a vindication I'll take to my grave.
09:55It's really interesting speaking to you now that you had any worry that Rachel wasn't a traitor.
10:00Because from our perspective, you were so sure, 100% sure,
10:05you were going into that confessional going, Rachel's behind there.
10:09Imagine what it would look like if it was like if it was James stood behind there.
10:13The thing is that, you know, you work yourself up to do something.
10:17And I'd like really sort of screwed my courage up to go in there.
10:21And so I had to believe that it's this is it, this is it, this is it.
10:25And then afterwards, it completely collapsed.
10:28I came out of that and was just a complete crumbling wreck of what if I've got that completely wrong?
10:33I've put my entire house on this horse.
10:36And what if that horse is a donkey?
10:38Why did you decide not to keep Rachel close?
10:41Because if she had no idea, you could have got all the way to the end of her.
10:43Well, I think this is what we definitely wanted to ask from episode six,
10:47where you're saying things like, I want to keep my enemies closer.
10:50And you keep your cars close to your chest within the space of maybe 12 hours.
10:54You're then going, it's you, Rachel.
10:56I know it's you.
10:57You're in there.
10:59Open up.
11:00If I hadn't, if smoke and mirrors hadn't come up as a challenge,
11:03if I hadn't won it, if I hadn't smashed the mirror that had the smoke,
11:07I think I would have kept going.
11:09I will say it was actually quite a strain being friendly with someone I was so sure was a traitor.
11:16Because at some point I knew that I would have to vote for somebody.
11:21You know, if I sort of kept on going,
11:23I would need then to start voting for people that I didn't believe were traitors
11:27in order to stay in with her.
11:29And that was a level of duplicity I didn't feel comfortable with.
11:32And I basically painted myself into a corner.
11:36And so I decided to set fire to it.
11:39It was really...
11:41No, fair play.
11:42Burn the book.
11:43It was not yours.
11:48All of them.
11:49All of them.
11:50There's only one author there.
11:51You know when Rachel, they wrote on the thing and they were like,
11:55no, take her.
11:56That should be your line of your next novel.
11:59Oh, that's a good idea.
12:00We were writing and we were like, what a great line.
12:03It was so clever.
12:03They were so clever with that.
12:05Because I did then spend the rest of the time going,
12:08what do I do now?
12:09Do I...
12:09Oh, God.
12:10Yeah, it was a proper...
12:12Yeah, that was a good answer.
12:14The mind games on this was quite phenomenal.
12:17They were very, very smart in how they carried it out.
12:21No, they said.
12:23Take her.
12:23Take her.
12:24Take her.
12:25Harriet, what was it like to finally see Rachel's reaction
12:28to the exchange and the confessional booth
12:30to see what was going on behind that wall?
12:32That was a good moment.
12:33Yeah.
12:33That was very cathartic.
12:35And we've not seen her shaken in this game, really.
12:37Oh, she's been brilliant.
12:39Even with the Fiona stuff.
12:41She honestly blinded her.
12:43No one else had an idea.
12:45She is cool as a cucumber.
12:47So, yeah, there is a certain petty vindication
12:50in seeing her suffer just for that split second.
12:53She was terrified.
12:53I was terrified watching it.
12:55Yeah.
12:55I thought I was terrified.
12:56Stephen's reactions are incredible to everything.
12:58Oh, yeah.
12:59He was like, oh, my God.
13:01Because you could see how much...
13:02He was enjoying it like he was watching the television show.
13:04Yeah.
13:05His eyes.
13:05He was so excited.
13:06His eyes are so expressive, aren't they?
13:08They go so big.
13:09Yeah.
13:10And it was also relief that you weren't going after him as well.
13:13He was like, oh, I'm glad that's not me.
13:15Because actually, in your long list of suspected traitors,
13:18Stephen wasn't on it.
13:19No, he didn't come up.
13:19But you know there's that thing when you do the speed awareness courts
13:23and they show you the psychological thing.
13:24They tell you to watch a basketball play in play
13:28and you watch the basketball being thrown around the court
13:31and you're focused on that.
13:32So you miss the man in the gorilla suit
13:34who runs from one side of the court to the other.
13:36And I was so hyper-focused on Rachel.
13:39And Stephen, I think, had been really smart.
13:41We barely interacted.
13:42Other than that brilliant mission where we do the pictures,
13:45we had had nothing to do with each other.
13:48And so, you know, Jesse is obviously completely on to him.
13:51I was completely on to Rachel.
13:53You know, I'm just sad that we didn't join forces
13:55and work together because I think we would have been,
13:57you know, phenomenal.
13:58Rachel's the basketball and Stephen's the gorilla.
14:00Yes.
14:01Yes.
14:01Okay.
14:02Harriet, now that you've seen how Matthew played his moment
14:05in the confessional with the traitors.
14:07Yes.
14:07How do you rate his game?
14:09Because it's the complete opposite of yours.
14:11I mean, it's highly intelligent and massively sneaky.
14:15And it actually has been, because I was afterwards,
14:19you know, his name wasn't on the list of traitors.
14:21So I was a bit like, how could I have suspected that lovely boy?
14:25Now that I've seen this, it's like, well, obviously,
14:28he was wanting to be, you know, he was a wannabe traitor.
14:31He was, you know, the traitor in waiting.
14:33It was quite remarkable to watch.
14:35And it was the comparison between you two and how you treated it.
14:40I've got a great deal of integrity.
14:41You were just like punk.
14:43You were just like, I know who you are.
14:45I'm coming after you.
14:46And Matthew went, oh, please.
14:48I want to be one.
14:51He's been quite quiet up until this point, though, hasn't he?
14:53So were you surprised to see him make that move?
14:56I think, given that we had voted him the fairest
15:00in terms of, you know, the nicest game player,
15:04everyone trusted him.
15:06Is there someone in there who's overestimated,
15:08whose voice is carrying more votes than just them?
15:10Do you know what I mean?
15:11There's always someone, and you know it from, you know,
15:14juries do it all the time.
15:15They're like that all the time.
15:17One juror can carry with them four, five...
15:19I think Rachel, Rachel, she has been...
15:23If I hadn't been bounced by smoke and mirrors,
15:26I was hoping I'd have the opportunity to gather some more evidence.
15:30But she has been so beneath the radar.
15:34Everybody loves her.
15:35And she's done so...
15:36But the thing, watching it now,
15:38the thing I can't believe no one else really picked up on
15:40is that every day she's been there as Little Miss Sunshine
15:43in her dungarees, her yellow tops, you know,
15:46looking like a primary school...
15:47And brilliant, you know.
15:48But then that last day, you know, that she's there,
15:52as I said, dressed to kill, in this sleek burgundy,
15:55looking a million dollars.
15:57And, you know, nobody's picked up on this switch
16:00that she's gone from, you know, some sort of kindergarten to...
16:05Now hiding in plain sight, which is more effective.
16:08Claire, who do you think had the better strategy?
16:10There was Harriet's play to take on the Tracers, of course,
16:12or was it Mattie's play to keep them on side?
16:15It depends if you're trying to win the game
16:17or you're trying to win life.
16:19For me, Harriet wins in life because the integrity is important
16:22and she was bold and strong and I love that.
16:26In the context of the game,
16:28Mattie is playing a blinder and it's more effective.
16:31No, no, I was completely without strategy by that point.
16:34The idea of winning the game had gone out the window.
16:37Mattie, if you'd have that opportunity in your series
16:39to speak to the Tracers in the confessional,
16:42what would you have said, apart from hello, Wilf?
16:44Hi, Wilf.
16:46Oh, I would have.
16:47I'd love to have seen that.
16:49It's you, Wilf.
16:50I did think, I think I'd be like,
16:53what's your name?
16:55You know what I mean?
16:56Yeah.
16:56Do you think that would have worked?
16:57No.
16:58I mean, it's a lovely thought,
17:00but they'd just have said, you know,
17:02whoever the opposite was.
17:03I think you did brilliant.
17:04I think the passion and everything,
17:07I probably would have done the same
17:09and been like, Wilf, come out.
17:11Harriet, you offered Roxy the opportunity
17:14to take your conversation with the Tracers.
17:17Why did you do that?
17:18Because if I went into that chapel,
17:20then I was going to have to do a confrontation with Rachel
17:22because I couldn't see any other way to play it
17:25and I couldn't think of any other questions.
17:26Roxy's point about saying,
17:29why would you offer that to me?
17:30You must be a Tracers.
17:31It does not make any sense to me.
17:32No, it makes no sense at all.
17:33Because a Tracers would want that opportunity
17:35more than a faithful.
17:36No, I think, though, the difficulty is for all of us
17:40that, you know, by the time that you're halfway through,
17:42and you know this,
17:43if anyone says anything remotely anomalous,
17:46it's leapt on and you're like,
17:48all right, that must mean.
17:49And so I think it didn't make sense to Roxy
17:53because she didn't have time to sit down
17:55and think about it.
17:56And, you know, with any of us,
17:58you get bounced with something weird.
18:00You're just like, oh, that's weird.
18:01You must be guilty.
18:02Rather than, oh, there's a logical explanation for this.
18:04Let's stop and think about it.
18:06Let's talk about the breakfast the next morning.
18:09You came into breakfast fired up.
18:11Yes.
18:12What made you decide to go on the offensive that morning?
18:15I didn't want to give them the opportunity
18:18to spin anything against me in advance.
18:22I mean, I knew what I'd said in the confessional.
18:25And I was at that point believing that there'd been,
18:28you know, five people crammed in that chapel.
18:30And so everyone was against me.
18:33I just had to get my cards out on the table
18:37as far as I was concerned and not let anybody,
18:41you know, people could then make of it what they would,
18:44but at least I would know that I had controlled
18:47my own narrative as much as was humanly possible.
18:50There was no strategy by this point.
18:52You know, it was kamikaze.
18:54It was as simple as that.
18:55I'd say that rational thought had sort of departed the building.
18:59I'm very glad you used the phrase
19:01cat amongst the pigeons, though,
19:03because in the previous episode,
19:04Stephen had said cat amongst the chickens.
19:06Which I love.
19:06I love that.
19:07But it was good to have a correction on that.
19:09That did make me laugh when I heard that.
19:12That did make me laugh.
19:14Why did you decide to reveal your identity
19:17as a former barrister at breakfast to everyone
19:21rather than just the traitors the night before?
19:21Again, I didn't want them having something
19:23that they knew and everyone else didn't.
19:25Yeah.
19:26It wasn't, I think...
19:29I mean, I probably shouldn't have said it
19:30in the chapel the night before.
19:32I should have held that to myself.
19:33But, I mean, again, I just sort of slightly lost it.
19:37And I had had enough of playing nice,
19:40like, you know, a nice lady in a scarf.
19:42But the first question, really, I had afterwards
19:46was, was Rachel all right?
19:48Because within the game, I'm delighted.
19:51On a human level, you know,
19:53of course I wasn't wanting her to feel bad
19:55and I didn't want me to feel bad.
19:57And there's all of the WhatsApp
19:59and everybody is incredibly supportive of each other.
20:03I mean, there's an aspect of, you know,
20:04you remember the time I tried to destroy you?
20:06I mean, I know I said then
20:12I was hoping for a faithful victory.
20:15I am, there is a part of me now
20:16which is a bit like, hang on a minute,
20:19none of them listen to me.
20:20Why should they get better?
20:22Yeah, it's like, come on, fair.
20:23I think Stephen and Rachel, you know,
20:26up to that point at least, definitely...
20:29Deserve it.
20:29Definitely deserve it.
20:30And I mean, I hate to say I'm team traitor,
20:32but at least I'd have been beaten by Brazil, you know.
20:35It's kind of...
20:36Your speech at the start of the roundtable
20:38was absolutely incredible.
20:40It was your second barnstorming speech of the day.
20:42Let's just get a little flavour of it now.
20:44We move on then to the day of Hugo
20:46and you said to me,
20:48you'll put a target on your back, don't do it.
20:51And I laid out my case against Hugo
20:54and I was really struck by the fact
20:56that you went straight off into Ross.
21:00We know now that Ross was a faithful.
21:03I felt that there was something wrong.
21:05I felt I'd been played.
21:08Did you prepare for what you were going to say
21:10at the roundtable?
21:11Oh, yes.
21:11Yeah.
21:12You'd run through everything in your head beforehand.
21:14Oh, yes, repeatedly.
21:15I'd written it down and I'd written it down
21:16and I'd written it down
21:17and then I had sort of made it shorter and shorter
21:20to memorise it
21:21because it was all in my head.
21:23How did you feel in that moment
21:25when you're laying out your argument?
21:27Are you confident or are you nervous or...?
21:29I think that at that stage
21:32I was past nerves
21:33because I didn't...
21:35I knew no one was with me.
21:36I had already got that sense
21:38from how people had been...
21:41Everyone was being very nice
21:42but nobody was like,
21:45we really want to hear it.
21:46I mean, you did a terrific job
21:47but isn't it extraordinary
21:48when you feel the wave turn against you
21:51and you know groupthink is happening
21:52against you
21:53and there is that moment of slight,
21:57I can't do anything to stop this
21:58so I'm just going to...
22:00I'm going to accept this graciously
22:01and I actually haven't got it in me to fight
22:04because defending yourself is really difficult.
22:07Attacking someone else is much easier.
22:08Yes, yes.
22:09Much easier.
22:10Yes.
22:10And those that are guilty,
22:12so the traitors,
22:12they deflect and they attack
22:14and they, you know,
22:15look over here,
22:16over here, over here.
22:17Yeah, yeah, yeah.
22:17And you just feel it happening
22:19as you just go,
22:20I can't win.
22:20And it was the first time
22:22I'd ever had to defend myself.
22:23No one had accused me before
22:24and I realised I didn't like it
22:26at all,
22:27being under suspicion.
22:28I really didn't like it
22:30and that I was going to have
22:32to keep doing it now
22:33and I didn't want that
22:34and halfway through,
22:36I just remember the switch in my brain.
22:38I was halfway through saying,
22:39you know,
22:39this is why you've got it all wrong
22:41to go on then,
22:42just say I'm a traitor,
22:43let's just get this over and done with.
22:45How did it feel
22:46to have the nation
22:47suspect you of being
22:48the secret traitor?
22:49For the period of time
22:50everyone thought I was
22:52and they were,
22:53you know,
22:54all my friends
22:54were messaging me
22:55saying,
22:56I hope you are,
22:57I hope you are,
22:57oh, I bet it's you.
22:59It is very hard
23:00when being falsely accused
23:02not to try
23:03and clear my name.
23:05I do think
23:05we might have been
23:06slightly complicit in that
23:07on Uncloaked, Harriet.
23:09I'm sorry
23:09because people noticed
23:11that we've put your portrait
23:12next to Stephen and Rachel.
23:14I was aware of this
23:15and I've been trying very hard
23:17not to say anything about it.
23:18Yes,
23:18well,
23:19we apologise.
23:20It was random portrait placing.
23:22We should point out
23:23that the portraits
23:24are still up
23:25for audio listeners
23:26in that order.
23:28It's Harriet
23:29next to Stephen
23:29who's next to Rachel.
23:31So I can see
23:31why people might have tried
23:33to put those clues together.
23:34Not a traitor.
23:35Never a traitor.
23:36Never would be a traitor.
23:37The secret traitor's twist
23:38This really has sent
23:39the nation mad.
23:41Well,
23:42that's it for part one
23:43but the chat continues
23:44on BBC Sounds right now.
23:45We'll have more reaction
23:46and analysis
23:47from Claire and Maddie
23:48and we'll be asking Harriet
23:49and feel free
23:50to give us some facial expressions
23:52based on this now.
23:54All about her fellow players
23:55including
23:56secret detective Amanda,
23:58secret couple
23:59Ross and Ellie,
24:01secret mother and daughter
24:02Judy and Roxy
24:04and of course
24:05secret traitor Fiona.
24:06That's in your bonus episode
24:09of Uncloaked.
24:10Ready and waiting for you.
24:11Scan the QR code
24:12on the screen
24:12and listen as you floss
24:14before bed.
24:15I'll return with all the reactions
24:16straight after episode eight.
24:18Will the traitors
24:18manage to murder
24:19another player
24:20and is Matthew
24:21getting closer
24:21to being recruited?
24:23Thanks to Claire and Maddie
24:24and of course
24:25to the incredible Harriet.
24:26I'm Ed Gamble.
24:27Stay faithful.
24:28Woo!
24:32And the traitors
24:33make their next move
24:35tomorrow at eight.
24:36Well it's one lie
24:37and countless laughs
24:38with Don French
24:39life insurance scam comedy.
24:42Can you keep a secret?
24:43Next.
24:43While an iPlayer
24:44when the job calls
24:45Grease answers
24:46press red
24:47for Amanda and Alan's
24:48latest renovation project.
24:50What an iPlayer
24:51is not so intense
24:52because of everything
24:53as long as possible.
24:54Oh you like
24:56Alberta is great
24:57there that helps
24:57� me
24:57make their next move
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25:01engaged
25:01to an iPlayer
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25:03to theena
25:04liberally
25:04ежд
25:04and
25:05as long as a
25:06woman
25:07you
25:07that keeps
25:08it
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