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Europe Today: Vestager, antigua 'mujer de los impuestos' de la UE, habla de Groenlandia e Irán

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00:30The government has said it cannot accept Donald Trump's desire to take control of their island.
00:36For now, NATO Secretary General Mark Rutte is avoiding the issue, piling praise on Donald Trump,
00:42insisting the alliance is working on ways to bolster Arctic security.
00:47This, as US Secretary of State Marco Rubio prepares to meet Danish and Greenlandish diplomats tomorrow.
00:54For more on what all this means for NATO, our EU editor Maria Tadeo is here with me in the studio.
00:58But first, let's just take a listen to both President Donald Trump and the NATO Secretary General Mark Rutte.
01:04If we don't take Greenland, Russia or China will take Greenland, and I am not going to let that happen.
01:11And Greenland, basically, their defense is two dog sleds. Do you know that?
01:15Do you know what their defense is? Two dog sleds.
01:18But one way or the other, we're going to have Greenland.
01:21What I always do is when people are helpful for the alliance and are doing good stuff,
01:26and I believe that Donald Trump is doing the right things for NATO.
01:29By the way, as we speak, we see Denmark speeding up their investments when it comes to defense,
01:35not only generally, but also when it comes to unique capabilities to defend territories like Greenland.
01:40So we are really working together here.
01:42So Maria Mark Rutte really seems to be in denial there over Greenland. It's getting awkward.
01:46It's getting awkward. And yesterday, that was a very painful press conference to watch
01:51because he was asked repeatedly, is there an issue now within NATO when one of its defense partners
01:58is clearly now making its territorial ambitions on the land of another country that is also part of the alliance?
02:04And he kept repeating, no, we are working together, and we all agree that Arctic security is important.
02:10Of course, certainly, Arctic security is important in the face of China and Russia.
02:14But there is a fundamental question here, which is the United States now for a year,
02:19Maeve, I remember this, or it started in a press conference in Mar-a-Lago in 2025,
02:23has been insisting and has been very consistent in the idea that they need Greenland.
02:27Trump says we need it, or the U.S. would need it for national security.
02:30And he also talks about the psychological effect that it would have in the country to own it.
02:36Now, for the time being, one of the ideas that is being floated just to show President Trump
02:41that NATO allies are taking this seriously is to put together a NATO mission or a mission modeled
02:47after NATO that would include a significant European component, again, to show security of Greenland
02:52and the Arctic is being taken seriously. But of course, there's also another point, too.
02:57This is the sort of language that we would say at different times would have been a sort of
03:02territorial expansion, imperialism, maybe some suggest there's colonialism behind this.
03:07And of course, it's not a secret that Greenland is also an island and a territory that's very rich
03:11in rare earth and minerals. All of this pining pressure, of course, on the Danish government
03:16to stop this language.
03:17So what more should the Europeans be doing here? Should they not be in crisis mode over Greenland?
03:21Well, and they are, in a way. Of course, they worry about the pressure on Denmark.
03:27They worry about the pressure on Greenland. We should also note, when you look at polls,
03:3087% of Greenlanders say they do not want to belong to the United States.
03:34There is a question about autonomy, but not changing when it comes to now Denmark to the United States.
03:40The other point is, of course, the Europeans, the French, the Germans, the UK. There has been many reports,
03:46again, this in the context of NATO, that they would be prepared to model and put forward a mission
03:50to show that they are taking the Arctic seriously for the Danish government. They have said, however,
03:55and this is one of the most extraordinary statements I've ever seen, actually, in the past year,
03:59that if the US were to make a move, then that would be the end of NATO, and that would be the end
04:04of the post-Second World War security framework. As I go back, this is a defensive alliance,
04:09one member making a move on another member. Of course, it's very hard to see how NATO would have
04:14any credibility if that were to happen.
04:16Okay. Maria Tadeo, your EU editor, thank you so much for that update.
04:20And shortly, we can dive deeper into the topic, as coming up, we'll be joined by the Danish
04:25politician, Margarethe Vysheyr, most famous for her role as EU Commissioner for Competition,
04:30when President Donald Trump labelled her back then the tax lady. She's known back home for being
04:35a government minister and party leader, and in Brussels for going after big techs. We're thrilled
04:40to have her here with us in the studio. Good morning.
04:42Good morning.
04:43Welcome to Europe Today.
04:44Well, great to be here.
04:45So lovely to have you here with us in Brussels. I want to urgently ask you many questions about
04:49Greenland. But first, your thoughts on Iran. What more can the international community do
04:54here? What more can the EU do?
04:56Well, I think the steps that has been taken so far, they are, you know, the right steps
05:00to say that, well, we're here. Just when the women were hitting the streets, we were there
05:07to say, well, we support your cause. And now again, to say, listen, the sanctions, they will
05:12be increased. There will be also external pressure, because the cries of the Iranians on the streets,
05:20the deterioration in their living conditions, you know, the courage that they show, I think
05:25that should inspire and impress the rest of the world.
05:27And what about President Donald Trump? His solution is to potentially intervene militarily.
05:32Is this something that you would support?
05:35Well, you know, I think that for the Iranians, the solution is not a military solution.
05:40It is, of course, for the president's regime to step down and for democratic forces to align
05:46themselves with a democratic way of ruling the country.
05:51Very challenging, indeed. Let's talk about Greenland and Donald Trump's desire to take
05:55Greenland. Could he potentially really do that?
05:57Well, I think even for President Trump, for one native country to attack another native
06:04country to acquire territory is really, really far reaching. And when you look at the asks
06:10of security and cooperation on minerals, there is, I think, a very open approach from the Greenlandic
06:18government and population, and of course, also from a Danish side. And there's been a longstanding
06:22cooperation. The treaty with the US goes back to 51, as when it comes to security.
06:27And what role should the European Union be playing here? What should the Europeans be doing?
06:33Well, Europe has increased its interest for Greenland over the last 10 years. Now there
06:39is a representation of the European Commission in Greenland. I think that's really important.
06:45There is a memorandum of understanding when it comes to the exploration of critical minerals
06:49and rare earth and what have you. So even though Greenland is not part of the European Union,
06:55well, it's a relationship that can be increased and the first steps they have been taken in previous
07:00years.
07:01Well, some previous politicians are today calling for them to be a member that Brussels should
07:06invite them back in. They did reverse their membership back in the day.
07:09Well, I think I think so many decisions are for the Greenland people for them to take. It's their
07:14country. They don't seem to be at all in any kind of mindset to sell their country. If they ever want
07:20to join the European Union again, it's for them to start that discussion.
07:24But if Trump did move in, could that be the end of NATO, as some are saying?
07:29Well, I think that is that is almost I know that President Trump says that he's not reigned in by
07:35anything but his own morals. But even for that, to do that for one NATO country to attack another
07:42NATO country for territory, that would be, I think, the most existential threats to NATO that we have
07:48seen. And also, you know, Denmark was one of the countries who answered the call from the US
07:54the only time that Article 5 have been triggered was when US did that and Denmark fought and, of course,
08:02lost lives and soldiers in that operation.
08:05And with all this talk about Greenland, one would almost forget the big spat between Brussels and
08:09Washington, D.C. over tech roads. Who's standing up to Donald Trump here?
08:14Well, I think the important thing is to say, listen, we have realised our dependencies, gas on Russia,
08:20critical minerals on China, security on the US, and also technology on the US. So, of course, it's about
08:27time for Europe to say, listen, we will enforce our rules for our market to be open and contestable.
08:32We will look for European suppliers, because there is a European demand. And of course, we want to live
08:38a life that is not, you know, 100% digitally dependent, because the society is about the relationship
08:43between people.
08:44And what about something that's a big concern for our viewers, that Grok's AI tool that's manipulating
08:49image of women and girls? What can the EU do here? We saw a very late response yesterday from the
08:54commissioner.
08:55Well, I think it's really important to be tough on this one, because you have this wicked combination
09:00of nudity and humiliating women. And basically, any woman could be, you know, a victim of this. So I think it's
09:09really important to stand up for it, both as people, but of course, also win the enforcement
09:14with the commission.
09:15OK, Margaret Tavish, thank you so much for joining us and for sharing your insights on a number of
09:19stories. Thank you.
09:21But now it is time to focus on France, where the fire leader, Marine Le Pen, is starting a crucial
09:26appeal in court today that could determine whether she can run in next year's presidential
09:30elections or not. Marine Le Pen was convicted last year for allegedly misusing EU funding
09:36to pay her party staff back home as MEP assistants here in Brussels. For more, we can cross over
09:42now to Paris to bring in our correspondent, Sophia Katskenkova, who's just outside the courthouse
09:47for us this morning. Good morning, Sophia. Just remind our viewers of the details of this case.
09:55Good morning. So, as you said, Marine Le Pen's appeal trial opens this Tuesday afternoon at
10:02the Paris Court of Appeals just behind me, and it will be decisive for her political career.
10:10She's appealing a conviction, as you said, Maeve, for misusing EU parliament funds. Judges last year
10:16ruled that the money meant to pay EU parliamentary assistance was actually used to fund staff working
10:23for her national party between 2004 and 2016. So, for that, she was sentenced to four years in prison,
10:32two of which were suspended, a 100,000 euro fine, and most importantly, banned from holding a public
10:39office for five years with immediate effect. And so, this ban currently blocks her from running for
10:47the 2027 presidential election. So, this appeal is one of her last legal chances to overturn or soften
10:55at the original ruling. The hearing will last about a month, and a verdict is expected before the summer.
11:03Back to you, Brussels. So, a lot at stake here. Sophia, what could the potential outcomes be? I know we
11:08have to wait a couple of weeks.
11:12Yeah, so, as you said, the stakes are extremely high, and there are three main scenarios. Either she
11:19manages to overturn the original ruling, which is seen as highly unlikely, as legal experts have told me,
11:27and this would clear the way for her to run in 2027. A partial win, so that means either a reduced or
11:35suspended ban could also keep her in the race. But if the original sentence is confirmed, or even worse,
11:43toughened, her presidential ambitions would effectively be over. And this would make Jordan
11:49Bardella, her 30-year-old protege and leader of her national rally party, the natural candidate for
11:56the presidential election. And polls already suggest that he may be more popular than Le Pen and capable
12:03of winning a presidential election. And for the EU, the implications of this could be huge.
12:10Indeed, that's why the story is being watched very closely here from Brussels. Sophia, Katzinskova,
12:14thank you so much for that update. But now, all eyes back to Iran. The European Parliament has responded to
12:20the attacks on peaceful protesters by banning Iranian diplomats, and the EU is also eyeing more sanctions.
12:25Jakob Yanis takes a look at how the international community could act.
12:32Welcome to the ultimate game of risk, a battlefield of diplomacy, conflict and conquest.
12:38With massive protests on the streets of Tehran, the dice has been rolled. Now the players must choose their options.
12:46First, the US. Move one is to strike. Last year proved the US can hit Iranian nuclear facilities. And now,
12:57fresh from Venezuela, a targeted air campaign is the hard power option.
13:03Move two is about oil. Trump now controls Venezuela's resources, so he can drive Iran's exports to zero
13:11without spiking global oil prices. And there is also a technology card. Deploying styling terminals
13:19that will help to break the internet blackout and coordinate the opposition. Now, the EU. No military
13:27strikes, but strong economic cards. Move one is the trade trap. Germany accounts for a third of all EU
13:36to Iran trade. They supply the vital machinery and chemicals that keep Iran's industry alive.
13:43Maybe it should be limited. Move two is hard diplomacy. Brussels could finally designate the
13:51Revolutionary Guard as terrorists, freeze their assets and isolate the regime completely.
13:58Finally, Iran's option is to secure the regime at any cost.
14:03But life is not a board game where plastic figures are removed from the map. In Iran,
14:11real people are being murdered. With hundreds reported deaths, one question arises. How many
14:18more lives will the next turn take?
14:21And that report by Jakob Janis brings this edition of Europe Today to an end. Thank you so much
14:32for tuning in. Join back again tomorrow morning. See you then.
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