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00:00Good morning. I'm coming to you live from Dahlonego where there has been a significant
00:13development in the Rachel Hopkins murder case. As 7,500 friends and neighbors wake up this morning,
00:19they face the grim prospect that one of them could be a serial killer. Now as this is a rapidly
00:26evolving situation, know that information is still scarce, especially on the very first day
00:31of Gold Rush Day's festival, which typically is a time for celebration. But what I can confirm is
00:37the second victim is Helen Wang, the headmistress of St. Hillary's private girls school. While I
00:43have nothing more to share, know that as soon as I know something, you will too. I'm Anna Andrews,
00:47here in Dahlonega for WSK. We humans are capable of inflicting such misery.
00:56Such cruelty. Such pain.
01:07And yet the most dangerous thing we do is lie.
01:13To others. And to ourselves.
01:20Guess we should have interviewed her yesterday.
01:22Did Anna tell you what the hell she was doing here?
01:27Apparently Ms. Wang left her a message at her B&B. Asked her to meet her here this morning.
01:32On Saturday.
01:33She said she arrived. She saw the body. She called her cameraman and then called us.
01:38All right, look. You call Dahlonega Manor where Anna's staying. You just make sure that that story
01:43checks out. I'm gonna go talk to her.
01:45Yeah, have her phone.
01:46Did she give you access?
01:49No. I asked.
01:50But she...
01:51She laughed, did you?
01:52Yeah.
01:53Yeah.
02:11Stan, why don't you give us a minute?
02:12Yes, sir.
02:14Let's clear out, boys.
02:15You okay?
02:15Mm-hmm.
02:16You want to tell me what you're doing here?
02:18I already told your sidekick. Can I have my phone back, please?
02:21Where's your phone?
02:24Don't you walk me through it, huh? Step by step?
02:27Helen asked me to meet her here at 7. Found her dead at 7.05.
02:327.06, I called my cameraman. 7.08, I called my boss. 7.45, I dialed 9-1-1.
02:39Great. So you called your cameraman first, huh? That's what you did?
02:41You called cameraman, then you called 9-1-1?
02:43Well, she was already dead, and it's my job to report on it. So, yep, that's what I did.
02:46Deputies got here. I said all the doors were locked. How'd you get in if all the doors were locked?
02:50I don't know. You'd have to ask Helen.
02:52Okay, well...
02:52Pardon me. Excuse me.
03:01You know, I gotta ask you. What were you the night, Rachel, Dad?
03:05Why would you have to ask me that?
03:06You know why I gotta ask you that?
03:07In Atlanta.
03:10You prove that, Anna?
03:11Do I need to, Jack?
03:16I don't know.
03:20Are we down here?
03:23Yeah.
03:24You stay in the fucking building, you got that?
03:26Calls and emails are pouring in.
03:40Atlanta loves you.
03:43No, no, no. If only what?
03:45If only you could do something to spike it.
03:47Really drive the numbers up.
03:48So it doesn't seem like I'm playing favorites.
03:52I'll see what I can do.
03:53Go get them, tiger.
04:02I appreciate it.
04:03Yes, thank you.
04:04Who's that?
04:05It was a night shift clerk.
04:07Said the call came in after midnight, but the message wasn't delivered to Miss Andrews
04:10until early this morning.
04:12It was definitely a woman who left it.
04:16Two women.
04:16Best friends since high school.
04:18Murdered.
04:19A knife used in both their killings.
04:22A friendship bracelet placed in both their mouths.
04:24We're both connected to Clyde Duffy.
04:28No fingerprints anywhere.
04:30Not even the victims.
04:31Whole place wiped clean.
04:32Maybe we're looking at a professional.
04:35Maybe old Clyde hired somebody.
04:37Let's check his phone records.
04:39Just get a list of everybody he called over the last month.
04:41And bank account.
04:42See if he's made any major cash withdrawals.
04:45Hey, remember you asked me to do that background check on Richard Jones?
04:48Yeah.
04:49Came back.
04:50Assault and battery three years ago.
04:52Broke a woman's jaw.
04:56Be right back.
05:02You seen Anna?
05:23I'd give your wife some space if I were you.
05:26Trust me, she's not in the mood, man.
05:27Why don't you pay attention to your own fucked up marriage, yeah?
05:30You don't know anything about me or my fucking marriage, okay?
05:33I know you're a low down cheat.
05:34I know that.
05:34Oh, you know that?
05:35Yeah, I do know that.
05:36Really?
05:36Does that bother you?
05:37Yeah.
05:37Too bad I ain't a female.
05:38You might just break my jaw, huh?
05:48She went that way.
05:57Mr. Mayor, trust me when I tell you that I think it's about to get a whole lot worse.
06:11But I can help you if you'll let me.
06:13A televised town hall.
06:14More publicity.
06:16Why would I put gasoline on a fire?
06:17Fight fire with fire.
06:18No, you do not.
06:19You suck the oxygen out of it.
06:21You smother it.
06:22We need to stop, drop, and roll here.
06:24Sir, those days disappeared with dial up.
06:26I mean, these days, if you don't tell your own story, somebody else will.
06:30What exactly is our story?
06:31That this town, her people, and her mayor are strong, safe, and unafraid.
06:37You let America know that Dahlonega is very much open for business.
06:41And you get what out of this?
06:44I'm from here.
06:46And I care about this town.
06:47You know my mother still lives here.
06:49I didn't know any of that.
06:51I thought most celebrities were more than happy to prostitute their private lives for public consumption.
06:57No, I think maybe you and I had a different experience growing up in this town.
07:03You ever think that the successes you've had, who you are, are due in no small part to Dahlonega?
07:09I have.
07:10Pro tip, instead of resenting where you're from, maybe consider how privileged you were.
07:18Or, you know, change your attitude.
07:22To what?
07:25Thanks, Dahlonega.
07:28I see.
07:30Pro tip, if I may?
07:32Please.
07:33Well, Dahlonega runs on tourism.
07:37The 45 to 65 wine-sipping, leaf-peeping, law-and-order, disposable-income crowd.
07:44Correct?
07:44It is, yes.
07:46Okay.
07:47Well, you know who's a big fan of true crime?
07:50The camper-towing, underemployed, lunch-packing, online detective crowd.
07:56So, pros will get ahead of this right away.
08:01Or else, you're gonna let the internet deal with it.
08:04And then you know what I think is gonna happen?
08:05The invisible hand of public opinion is gonna grab a handful of that gorgeous hair of yours
08:10and stuff an economy-killing serial killer reputation straight up your ass, Mr. Mayor.
08:16And then, good luck with re-election.
08:21So, what do you say?
08:28It only takes a few seconds when both the carotid and the jugular veins are cut,
08:32but with a slash, it's hard to say whether or not the same type of knife was used.
08:37Sure that matters?
08:39Whether it's the same knife or not, certainly the same person that used it.
08:44We know that because of the friendship bracelet.
08:45That's a detail that was never released to the press, though.
08:49Murders must be linked.
08:51Well, wait a second.
08:53If the clippings were taken as a souvenir on the last case, are the...
08:56Well, she still has both eyes, if that's what you're getting at.
08:59But in both cases, there was a message left.
09:01First case, the fingernails, right?
09:03There's a word here, it's the forehead.
09:04It's the same person.
09:06The staples could be seen as another message.
09:10See no evil, maybe, or turn a blind eye.
09:13I...
09:14Lots of ocular trauma, though.
09:19Took some muscle to get staples to stick in soft tissue like this.
09:22Hey, Doc, you have a time of death?
09:25Well, not an exact one.
09:28Oh, rigor's pretty well peaked, though.
09:30Usually happens 12 hours after in a reasonably air-conditioned room.
09:34That bracelet, that's pretty much the exact same, isn't it?
09:44Yeah.
09:46Pretty much identical to the last one.
09:49Doesn't look worn.
09:51Threads seem...
09:53new.
09:54I can check in town to see where they might be sold.
09:58Seems like we're back at square one.
09:59We've just seen them.
10:00No matches in the database, and Mr. Duffy's infinite.
10:03That's what he says, anyway.
10:05We'll know for sure when the swab results come in.
10:08That said, given the amount of large-waisted strap-ons I found on his garbage,
10:13he could be telling the truth.
10:14I just puked in my mouth.
10:16Duffy was the killer.
10:17What's his motive?
10:19You know, he said he had those rules with Rachel about hooking up.
10:22He said, specifically, no one in Dahlonega.
10:25The jizz ain't his.
10:26His wife broke the rules.
10:27That's right.
10:28But it doesn't explain why he'd kill Miss Wank.
10:31Yeah, well,
10:33what we gotta figure out is where that call to Dahlonega Manor where it originated from.
10:37Why?
10:37I said it came in after midnight, right?
10:40Helen was dead.
10:40Right.
10:42Yeah.
10:44Let me know what you find.
10:45Yes, sir.
11:10What the fuck?
11:17Jack?
11:18You just did through my shit?
11:20Just look, I need to know what this is, okay?
11:23What?
11:24Where'd you get it?
11:25Are you serious right now?
11:26I'm dead serious.
11:26You broke into my room for this dirty-ass friendship bracelet?
11:31It's not the fucking necklace from Titanic.
11:34Where did you get it?
11:35Jesus Christ.
11:36Anna made them for all of us.
11:38Does Anna have one?
11:40You know, just because you're a cop doesn't mean I have to answer your stupid question.
11:43Look, I need your help with this, okay?
11:45Rachel and Helen, what were they to each other?
11:47Uh, Helen was a lesbo and Rachel swung both ways.
11:51Or at least she did in high school.
11:52And she had the hots for her wife, too.
11:53But Anna was too much of a goody-douchies.
11:56Is that why they all stopped being friends?
11:58Is that what happened?
11:59You know, it was so long ago.
12:00I don't even remember.
12:01Rachel probably got bored with her.
12:02Damn it.
12:03Hold on.
12:04What's going on, Sheriff?
12:05The mayor wants to do a goddamn dog and pony show for the press to keep his ass from being recalled.
12:09When?
12:11Tonight.
12:11I want you to head it up since you're more familiar with the details.
12:15Sir, you can't do that.
12:16It's been less than 24 hours since the murder.
12:18You don't want that information released to the public.
12:19Jack, it's not my call, okay?
12:21Just get your fucking ducks in a row.
12:22Get everybody to calm the hell down.
12:24And get moving on a solid.
12:25Not for fuck's sake.
12:26It's...
12:26Sir, it's a mistake, okay?
12:28God...
12:30God damn it.
12:31Good morning, Miss Andrews.
12:43Deputy Adams called to check up on your mother.
12:45We found her wandering again last night and wanted to make sure she's okay.
12:49Please feel free to call me in the sheriff's office.
12:51Have a good day.
12:55Ma?
12:55Mama?
13:00Mama?
13:02Mama?
13:04You in here?
13:17I begged my mom, so she got them as an early birthday present.
13:36But I can't wear the pants outside the house unless I cover the part that says juicy.
13:44What do you think?
13:45I think it's super cute.
13:51I got you something, too.
13:52You can wear it to your party next week.
13:56It's a wonder bra.
14:00Thanks, Rach.
14:02Try it on.
14:04Right now?
14:05Well, don't you want to see if it works?
14:08I won't look.
14:15Well...
14:24Oh my god.
14:29Your tits look amazing.
14:31They're so fucking hot.
14:32You guys here?
14:34Yeah.
14:34Up in the bedroom.
14:36I brought beverages.
14:38Shit.
14:39You look hot.
14:41I have another surprise.
14:42The new and improved Catherine Kelly.
14:48Hi, Anna.
14:49Thanks for having me over.
14:50I apologize for being such a bitch.
14:53And I told her it wasn't really peach.
14:55I was really relieved.
14:57Yeah.
14:58Me too.
15:00Anyway, you both look awesome.
15:02Let's get some pics.
15:03Oh, I don't take regular photos.
15:04Bullshit.
15:05You look sexy as hell.
15:06Just smile this time, though.
15:09Cheese.
15:10Oh, honey.
15:12Anna, have you ever thought about straightening your hair?
15:16Wait, let me put my top back on.
15:18Come on, pose.
15:19Like a model.
15:21Yeah, like a supermodel.
15:21Yeah, like a supermodel.
15:22Yeah, come on, sexy lady.
15:23Yay.
15:24Ow, ow!
15:25Okay, body.
15:26Yeah.
15:28Anna?
15:31Anna?
15:32Yeah.
15:40Where were you?
15:44Just outside in the garden.
15:45I saw your car.
15:51What?
15:55That big mouth Jack probably told you he had to come get me again.
16:00Why don't you come on over here and sit with your mama for a minute?
16:02Come on.
16:03I'm glad you came by.
16:13With everything that's going on, I think you should stay here.
16:17It's safer.
16:18And ain't nobody coming out all this way.
16:20You know I can't stay in that room, Mom.
16:26Yeah.
16:26Maybe I don't know how we do it.
16:35But at some point, if we gonna keep on living,
16:40we gonna have to find a way to make peace with the past.
16:46Mama.
16:51When I'm done here, which is gonna be soon, I'm gonna go back to Atlanta.
16:56And I think you gotta come with me, Mom.
17:01To live?
17:02Mm-hmm.
17:03In Atlanta?
17:03So I can take care of you until we can figure out what's next.
17:06Ooh, honey.
17:10Anna, honey, I love you.
17:12But this is my home.
17:14And I don't need a babysitter.
17:18Alice, is something going on with you?
17:22Maybe.
17:31Okay, so then we're gonna...
17:37We're gonna need some help.
17:44I hear you.
17:48I hear you.
17:48I hear you.
18:08This is Gerald. How can I help you?
18:10Detective Patel here with the Dahlonega Sheriff's Office.
18:12I need an origin number for a call made to Dahlonega Manor at 12.02 a.m. this morning.
18:18Sure thing.
18:19But you know, before that, I want to follow up on a request for phone records I put a rush on three days ago.
18:25Customer name?
18:26Hopkins, Rachel.
18:28Yeah, so that was cancelled.
18:33What? Cancelled by who?
18:35Uh, Detective Harper.
18:39Run both, please, immediately.
18:48What's going on, Boston? Who are you talking to?
18:51Uh, another wackadoo lead.
18:54Yeah, well, there's some more wackadoo leads for you.
18:58This man's a whole mess for you.
19:00It's a damn goddamn waste of time.
19:06Good to see you.
19:06Good to see you.
19:07Good to see you.
19:12So, what exactly are we hoping to achieve tonight?
19:16Answer questions. Calm nerves.
19:20Dissuaged fears.
19:22You're kidding.
19:24Sarcasm.
19:26Right.
19:26Okay, honey Oakley.
19:36Why you got a gun in your purse?
19:38Because if I open carry didn't ruin my outfit.
19:42Any good with it?
19:43I don't know.
19:47You, I feel like you should know if you're going to carry it around with your lipstick and your Tylenol.
19:52I got it when I was working nights on the crime desk. Better to have it and not need type thing.
20:00Yeah, I'll say.
20:01Let's hope you don't need it.
20:05News time.
20:06Good evening, everybody.
20:17Now, the purpose of this town hall tonight is to separate rumor from fact, to provide you with some answers and hopefully some comfort.
20:26And for those of you watching at home tonight, so often when we hear about murders on television, we forget that the victim is a person who is left behind friends, family, community, and so many questions.
20:39And for us, that in times of fear, finding those who you trust is even more important.
20:48So, I want to thank you, Mayor Woodruff, for putting together this event at such short notice and for having WSK as a trusted source to cover it.
20:57Yes.
20:58Yes.
20:59Thank you, Mr. Mayor.
21:03Detective Parker.
21:04Ladies and gentlemen, I'll go ahead and share with you what I can, and then I guess we'll open it up for questions.
21:18Rachel Hopkins and Helen Wang, they were part of this community.
21:22They grew up here.
21:23They lived locally.
21:25They were both murdered.
21:28It was violent.
21:29It was heinous.
21:29It was gruesome.
21:30And we do believe that these murders were, uh, they're connected.
21:34These women were targeted.
21:36We do believe that they were committed by the same person and persons.
21:40What do you mean, like a serial killer?
21:42What the hell?
21:43Who is doing this?
21:44Look, I've worked homicide a better part of a decade, not just here in Lumpkin County, but Atlanta Metro.
21:51That's why I should.
21:52Well, I've worked with some of the best investigation teams in the country.
21:56And one thing I just want y'all to wrap your heads around is that the majority of these cases, they do go unsolved.
22:04Well, this ain't Atlanta.
22:07I understand it's not Atlanta.
22:08You're not going to be able to solve this?
22:09I never said that.
22:10I'm just saying what this is going to require is patience, yeah, and cooperation.
22:15And you're going to have to let us do our job.
22:17I thought your job was to protect the citizens of Belonga.
22:21That is our job.
22:29Most certainly is our job.
22:30Then what are you doing to keep our kids safe?
22:32Ma'am, I don't believe your kids aren't safe.
22:34I don't believe kids are being targeted here.
22:36Well, do you know who is the target?
22:38Our kids are in danger.
22:40Come on and say it.
22:41Yeah, I heard they were naked.
22:42I heard they took their eyes out.
22:44I heard that they were naked.
22:46I hear they were in a sex race.
22:48What's the blood spatter show?
22:49Okay, look.
22:50This is the fucking question, Jack.
22:51Are they naked or not?
22:52Why do you let my brother talk, Jordan?
22:54I don't know about that.
22:55I don't know about that.
22:55I don't know about that.
22:55Yeah, you can't do that, please.
22:58Ladies and gentlemen, that's not how this works.
23:00You've got a job to do.
23:02And this ain't that, so.
23:06I bet you goodnight.
23:07Where the fuck is he going?
23:09Hey, get back up there and do your job, you fucking coward.
23:12You leaving me, you blind your baby.
23:14Shut up.
23:14You shut your fucking pie hole.
23:16Ladies and gentlemen, what you saw there is a detective doing his job.
23:21All right?
23:23So now more than ever, it's important that we look after each other, that we care for each
23:28other.
23:28And I say now more than ever because I myself know what this killer is capable of.
23:34I found Helen Wang's body.
23:36Now, I've covered countless murders in the course of my career, heinous, grisly, ugly
23:45things.
23:47What I saw there was about as bad as anything I've ever seen.
23:54Now, I don't know much.
23:56I am no detective.
23:57But I have learned two things about people who kill.
24:01One is that the best indicator of future behavior is past behavior.
24:05And two, killer usually knows their victim.
24:11Which means one of us in here, maybe many of us, might know who the killer is.
24:18The killer could be in this very room.
24:28Where's Duffy?
24:29How come he's not here?
24:30You know them.
24:31You went to school with those girls.
24:33Yeah, Zoe, you went to St. Hillary.
24:35You were on the payment plan there.
24:36Yeah, your limp dick was on the payment plan, George.
24:39You know what?
24:41You said that to my fucking woman.
24:43You said that to my fucking woman.
24:44Oh, yeah.
24:44You're real.
24:45Yeah, let's watch it.
24:46No.
24:46No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
25:16Fuck you!
25:17Get the fuck off!
25:18You're tired of your death!
25:20All you do is talk!
25:21Get on the shit!
25:22Get on the shit!
25:22Fuck you!
25:23Fuck you!
25:23Damn!
25:27Love that girl.
25:29Hi, Lexi.
25:31FYI, I'll be filing a report from the field, which you'll need to run during the 10 o'clock hour.
25:35Where are you going?
25:36Dahloneka.
25:37What?
25:39Have Eddie cover my desk.
25:40Okay.
25:41What the hell was that?
25:47A town hall.
25:48People talking.
25:49Yeah, talking about me.
25:50Well, I didn't say your name.
25:52If the people who know you think that you might have an insight into how or why Rachel or Helen was murdered, then that's not on me.
25:59Bullshit!
26:00I haven't talked to those bitches in years, and you know that.
26:02You fucking left, Anna.
26:04So why are you here?
26:05What are you trying to do?
26:07Shit on me?
26:07Shit on this town?
26:08I mean, Jesus fucking Christ.
26:10Used to hold in a grudge.
26:11It's been 20 fucking years.
26:13Wasn't even that big a deal.
26:14Where were you, Zoe, last night between the hours of 8 and 12?
26:18Huh?
26:23Funny.
26:24Funny.
26:26You know, they always underestimated me, those two.
26:28Just like everybody else in this town.
26:31Even my brother.
26:33That's because nobody knows what you're capable of.
26:37But I do.
26:40Does that scare you?
26:41Thinking about who might be next.
26:45Does it scare you?
26:53Better get out of here, Zoe.
26:55It's not safe.
27:11It's not safe.
27:34Oh.
27:35Oh.
27:35Oh.
27:35Oh.
27:36Uh.
27:36Oh.
27:37Oh.
27:37Oh.
27:37Oh.
27:39Oh.
27:39Oh.
27:39Oh.
27:40Oh.
27:40Oh.
27:41Oh.
27:41Doesn't like some small town drama to work up an appetite.
27:46Wanna grab a bite to eat?
27:48Uh, I can't actually.
27:50I've something else I gotta do.
27:52All right.
27:53I'll be up for a bit, so you can always knock
27:56if you need some company.
27:58Hey, thank you for your help tonight, Richard.
28:01I appreciate it.
28:02Yeah.
28:11Bravo.
28:17Hey, baby.
28:18What are you doing?
28:19Huh?
28:20Um, nothing much.
28:21What's up?
28:22Because I'll be there in half an hour.
28:24Wow.
28:25Hey.
28:26Hello.
28:27Fuck.
28:41Hi.
28:58Clyde.
29:00Can you share with us how you're feeling?
29:04This is frustrating.
29:06Not knowing anything, not being told anything.
29:09I mean, and that town hall.
29:13I'm just glad I didn't bother to go.
29:16How does that help any of us, really?
29:18I can only imagine how hurtful it must have been for you.
29:23All that matters to me is getting justice.
29:25Mm.
29:26Doing whatever I can to find whoever killed Rachel and Helen.
29:32I want whoever is targeting the good women in this town
29:35to be stopped and held accountable.
29:38Mm.
29:39So I am offering a $50,000 reward to anyone who knows anything
29:44about what happened to my wife.
29:47You heard it here first.
29:53In a town where everyone has questions, one grieving husband is offering $50,000 for answers.
30:05Reporting live from Dahlonega, Lexi Jones.
30:10We're clear.
30:11So sorry for your loss.
30:12You get all that?
30:13Yeah.
30:14Of course I got it.
30:15Good.
30:16Let's go.
30:17Think of it as a punctuation mark on the story.
30:20And who knows?
30:21Maybe it helps.
30:22But if you rerun any of the clips from the town hall, you'll have to rerun my clip too.
30:27Just to be accurate about it.
30:29Thanks, Jim.
30:30You have something you want to say to me?
30:31No, I just...
30:32I don't know why you do it.
30:33Do what?
30:34Do what?
30:35I don't know why you do it.
30:36Do what?
30:37I don't know why I don't know why I don't know.
30:38Well, I don't know why it's going to make me happy because I've never been working on
30:40the story.
30:41And who knows?
30:42Maybe it helps.
30:43But if you rerun any of the clips from the town hall, you'll have to rerun my clip too.
30:44Just to be accurate about it.
30:47Thanks, Jim.
30:55You have something you want to say to me?
30:57No, I just...
30:59I don't know why you do it.
31:02Do what?
31:03Go through all this trouble
31:05just to take the shine off Anna.
31:10You already have the anchor desk, honey.
31:13Who cares what she does in the field, you know?
31:17Well, I care.
31:20Because she's after what's mine.
31:29And I am not going to let her have it.
31:38Am I?
31:40No.
31:47No.
32:02Get in the corner.
32:03Yeah.
32:10Detective Patel.
32:11Hey, uh, it's Wally.
32:14I couldn't reach Detective Harper,
32:16so I figured I could be a ring.
32:18Okay.
32:18Yeah, I see.
32:19His DNA sample is cross-contaminated.
32:24Got strands from two different people in it.
32:27Thanks.
32:28Um...
32:29Yeah.
32:30Okay.
32:31I will let him know.
32:32Cool.
32:33Have a great night.
32:34Are they all wearing them?
32:48Mm-hmm.
33:00Are they all wearing them?
33:01Mm-hmm.
33:06Mm-hmm.
33:07Mm-hmm.
33:08Mm-hmm.
33:10Mm-hmm.
33:15Mm-hmm.
33:18Hey, Anna.
33:41Hey.
33:42Thanks.
33:43You're coming.
33:44Yeah.
33:50You know, I know that you, uh, that you weren't in Atlanta, you know, the night that Rachel
34:02died.
34:03You saw me, didn't you?
34:11You know I was with her?
34:19I didn't hurt her, Anna.
34:24You know that, right?
34:27Did you see anything?
34:38Anybody else that was there?
34:40Do you know who did it?
34:42I didn't do it, if that's what you're asking.
34:45Okay.
34:46There's two of us.
34:52I'm sorry you saw that, Anna.
34:56Didn't mean anything.
34:58Yeah, but it meant even less to her.
35:04So why were you with her, Jack?
35:06It's amazing you were with that gorilla of a cameraman of yours, right?
35:11Except my gorilla of a cameraman wasn't found butchered the next morning with me in charge
35:15of finding out who did it.
35:16Yeah, that's fair.
35:17You know.
35:18Maybe I should've said something.
35:19I don't know.
35:20Oh, baby.
35:21I cannot wait to hear this.
35:22You just say I did, right?
35:24You just follow that through, and then they kick me off the case, and then what?
35:28Who's gonna solve it?
35:31Someone around here gonna solve it?
35:33Someone who's never been on a homicide case, let alone solve one?
35:36Who's gonna do it if it's not me, if I just step off of it, huh?
35:38All right, so you corrupt your own case, break the law, but insist on staying on it instead
35:42of, I don't know, saying, hey, fellas, that there's Rachel Hopkins.
35:46I don't know who killed her last night, but I sure know who fucked her, me.
35:49But no, you couldn't do that.
35:51Oh, you are the only capable cop this side of Atlanta, so you managed to be both the victim
35:56and the hero of your own story.
35:57It is unbelievable.
35:58That's what you do.
35:59Guess I'm really sorry that you feel that way.
36:02No, you're not.
36:04That's what people say to make themselves feel better.
36:10You're not sorry for how I feel.
36:12For you to be sorry about how I feel, you'd have to understand first.
36:16Right.
36:17But you don't do that.
36:18Guess not.
36:19I told you I didn't feel good about leaving her that night, didn't I?
36:26Yes, Anna, you did.
36:27What, you think I don't know that?
36:28You think I don't think about that?
36:29I think I don't carry that with me?
36:30She's mine too.
36:31She's mine too.
36:32She's my baby too.
36:33I never get to see her again either.
36:34I never get to hold her.
36:35Sing to her, hold her hand.
36:36I hate myself for it.
36:37I blame myself for it.
36:38No, no, no, no.
36:39That's not what I'm saying.
36:40I'm not saying it's your fault, Jack.
36:41I'm not saying it's your fault, not mama's.
36:42I know that.
36:43The thing that I just, I, I, I.
36:45The thing I can't wrap my head around is after everything that we lost, after, after,
36:47I never get to see her again either. I never get to hold her.
36:53Sing to her, hold her hand. I hate myself for it. I blame myself for it every single...
36:56No, no, no. That's not what I'm saying. I'm not saying it's your fault, Jack.
36:59I'm not saying it's your fault, not Mama's. I know that.
37:01The thing that I just... I... I...
37:02The thing I can't wrap my head around is after everything that we lost,
37:07after... after how low and broken we were,
37:12you picked then to leave me.
37:15I mean, it's not even that you did. It's how you did it.
37:20You didn't, you didn't, you didn't, you didn't say anything.
37:24You just, you just bolted. No explanation, no...
37:28The thing is, and I swear to God, I could have...
37:31I could have got through that.
37:34Losing everything. Losing my career.
37:37Losing you.
37:40You fucking knew it. You knew I was looking for you.
37:43You knew it, and you were just okay with that.
37:45There's nothing in this world you could have done to me. Nothing, that I'm...
37:48I've never been that cruel to you, Anna, ever.
37:51Is that how it happened, Jack? That's how you remember it?
37:53It's not how I remembered it, Anna. It's how it happened. It's a fact.
37:57I tried, you stopped.
37:59I honored my commitment, my vow.
38:01I pulled my end of the fucking bargain, Anna.
38:03And things got hard, and you tucked tail, and you fucking quit.
38:09That's what you did.
38:10And all I did is, I tried to take your pain away.
38:13That's all I tried to do.
38:14I tried to be there for you, to hold you,
38:16and to let you know that no matter what, we could get through anything together.
38:20I wanted to fix it. I wanted to make you better.
38:22That's all I wanted.
38:22I didn't want you to make me better, Jack.
38:26I didn't want you to fix it. I just wanted you to...
38:28I just wanted you to listen to me.
38:30When do I not listen to you?
38:32How can you say that I don't listen to you?
38:34I never didn't listen to you.
38:35Whatever you said, I was just there to...
38:36Bobby, shut up!
38:39For once,
38:44you wanted me to hold you,
38:47so that's why you helped me.
38:49You wanted me to agree with you,
38:53to tell you everything was going to be all right,
38:55that we'd get through it together.
38:58I already lost one, baby Jack.
38:59I didn't need another one.
39:00For fuck's sake, do you know how unfair that is?
39:02I'm sorry, I've not...
39:02Do you know how fucking unfair that is for you to say that to me?
39:05But nothing is fair, Jack!
39:05Do you know how fucking unfair that is?
39:07Nothing is fair.
39:08I thought you would have learned that after Charlotte went fair.
39:15You need a break, Hannah.
39:18You work too much.
39:19Mama can look after the baby.
39:25Oh, don't worry.
39:25We can leave her.
39:27You're imagining things.
39:30Charlotte's just fussy.
39:32She'll be fine.
39:36She wasn't fine, was she?
39:38That when you kept telling me that I'll be fine,
39:50you're fine, you're fine,
39:51it just...
39:52It felt like a request,
39:55just to get over it.
39:57And I didn't want you to fix me, Jack.
40:00I just wanted time.
40:03Time to live in the pain, to feel it.
40:07I...
40:07Oh, and Charlotte left.
40:09All that was...
40:13Left in me was just this impossible emptiness,
40:15this...
40:16hole.
40:20I just didn't know what to do.
40:22I had to go, Jack.
40:23I had no choice,
40:24because that hole was Charlotte.
40:26It was all that I had left of our baby girl,
40:30and you kept trying to take her away from me,
40:32so...
40:34I just couldn't let you.
40:46I'm so sorry.
40:56Hey.
40:59Wait.
41:00I'm so sorry.
41:04I'm sorry.
41:34I'm so sorry.
41:36I'm so sorry.
41:45I'm so sorry.
41:48I'm so sorry.
42:04I'm so sorry.
42:19Okay.
42:25Okay.
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