This Old House - Season 47 Episode 08- Asheville- Bricks, Blinds, and Brews
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00:00Welcome to a brewery.
00:01Cheers.
00:02Cheers.
00:02So I hear you are measuring for some shade.
00:05Yes, blackout shade.
00:06Oh, it looks so good.
00:07How do we get this prepped so it's going to look as nice as the house across the street?
00:11The house looks great.
00:12This is going to look better.
00:22That's it.
00:30Hey there, I'm Kevin O'Connor, and welcome back to this old house and to our projects
00:56here in western North Carolina, where we are working on several houses that were damaged
01:01by Hurricane Helene.
01:03We've got one in East Asheville, one in North Asheville, and several in Swannanoa, which
01:09is just a couple miles from here.
01:11This is the town of Black Mountain, and like so many towns around here, it has been attracting
01:16people for years because it is so beautiful.
01:20Look at the downtown right here.
01:21Great Main Street with lots of restaurants, arts, and culture.
01:24And we are just surrounded by mountains with glorious views.
01:31Those mountains also make this a natural watershed, and we've got the North Fork Reservoir
01:36just up there.
01:38Well, like so many towns in this area, this one was hit hard by Helene.
01:43In fact, the locals were terrified that that reservoir, which provides billions of gallons
01:48of fresh drinking water to the greater Asheville area, they were afraid that that would fail and
01:52wash out this town.
01:54Well, it didn't, but the town was cut off.
01:58No electricity, communications, or fresh water for weeks.
02:02Well, they picked themselves up off the meeting right here on the center green, and they got
02:06through the storm.
02:07And as you can see, they are back in business.
02:10Those restaurants and breweries and all that arts and culture is back, as it is in many of
02:16these towns and the surrounding areas.
02:17And I thought I'd have myself a look around and maybe sample a few.
02:21We have a look around, as well Gates said.
02:22And Peter found out with poke water.
02:27Nestled in the picturesque Blue Ridge Mountains and sitting on the intersection of two rivers,
02:33Asheville is a nature lover's dream where you can hike, bike and paddle.
02:37But you can also taste, sip, and toast.
02:41Cheers.
02:41Cheers to you.
02:42Earlier, we met up with Molly Irani of Chai Pani.
02:46There's something about the atmosphere of the mountains here in this town that inspires dreamers and creatives
02:53and people that really appreciate good quality, exciting ideas.
02:59This small city of under 100,000 residents has a food and beverage scene
03:03where those exciting ideas are evident on the plate.
03:07Home to over 250 diverse restaurants, two of Asheville's top spots, Curate and Chai Pani,
03:15serve up Spanish tapas and Indian street food.
03:18Wildly different cuisines, but both locally sourced.
03:22We have a massive density of small independent farms within 10 to 15 minutes of every restaurant in this town.
03:29And that's also unusual and unique.
03:30And they're creating incredible produce.
03:33And they also, we have great relationships with them.
03:35They will grow things that we specifically want them to grow.
03:39And the foodies have taken notice.
03:41Both restaurants are prestigious James Beard Award winners, often called the Oscars of the food world.
03:48It's pretty incredible how many times Asheville has been nominated for a James Beard Award,
03:52particularly for the size of city that it is.
03:55It's such a small group of restaurants are recognized in the country.
03:59I knew immediately that this wasn't just about what was on the plate.
04:03It was about the whole package, about our people, our staff, our team, about our hospitality, our culture.
04:09And it's not just world-class food that draws crowds, but also beer and lots of it.
04:16Boasting more breweries per capita than any other city in the U.S.,
04:20it isn't hard to understand why Asheville has earned the nickname Beer City, USA.
04:25You can sample everything from IPAs to stouts at over 50 craft breweries.
04:30It'll start with your old port lager back there, hazy, an Oktoberfest, and a Pilsner.
04:35Places like Highland, the city's very first craft brewery.
04:38Point Pints since 1994.
04:40Or Hillman Beer, a small, family-run business near Biltmore Village.
04:45What is it with Asheville and the beer?
04:47It's actually the water quality around here.
04:49For real?
04:50Yeah.
04:51Oh, it's not just like a cultural thing?
04:52I mean, it is a little bit of the culture that works in with it.
04:55But we have, our water quality was like the equivalent of out west in Denver, Colorado.
05:01So the water is phenomenal.
05:03It comes from a pristine watershed that's bordered completely by the Blue Ridge Parkway.
05:07It's phenomenal. You hardly have to do anything to it to make really good beer.
05:11You don't have to add that other breweries might have to add in other regions.
05:15So a very cruel irony, that same water that gives us beautiful beer destroyed our town in ways that nobody could imagine.
05:24In late September 2024, Hurricane Helene dumped record rainfall on Asheville and its surrounding communities,
05:32leading to catastrophic flooding, triggering mudslides, destroying homes and businesses, and infrastructure.
05:40We all woke up on Friday morning in complete shock.
05:44Nobody was prepared for this.
05:46It was not on anyone's radar that we could have this level of destruction from a hurricane in the mountains of North Carolina.
05:52Many businesses lost their physical structures of their business, but then also none of us could operate because we also woke up without power, without water, without cell service, without communication between one another, without internet.
06:08So we flooded to about this high, so it was up over the tables, and it's not just, it wasn't just water, it was also mud, because our back, our whole back river, that's what came up and came in the building.
06:22Everything was muddy. You couldn't even decipher what was what and what it used to be.
06:26Everything was rearranged. Nothing was in the same spot.
06:28You're finding the safe halfway down, which was up in the office, halfway through the kitchen, kitchen stuff, down here, brewery equipment outside.
06:38It was just, just complete, complete destruction.
06:42The storm ravaged our entire perimeter, and obviously around town, much more damage than what we incurred here on site.
06:50One-third of Asheville's residents works in the hospitality industry, an industry that was now facing an unprecedented challenge.
06:59You know, there are no grant programs for businesses after disasters.
07:05If we have to close the ripple effect through the community, who depends on us for their financial well-being and the economic just cycle that happens in Asheville, it was absolutely devastating.
07:16So, that was our number one priority, is like, how do we get the restaurant operating as a restaurant again?
07:25People started just showing up, and I was thinking, I'm looking over at these guys in the kitchen, every single one of them showed up in the middle of the storm response.
07:34These young people that worked for us would come in, covered in mud, wearing their work boots, because they had been, like, rescuing people from the river and trying to save things.
07:44And they would walk into the restaurant and say, put me to work.
07:50But then, World Central Kitchen, an international food charity, arrived in town.
07:56We immediately jumped in and connected with World Central Kitchen as a first step, which was us preparing meals for the community.
08:04And World Central Kitchen is an incredible model, because they pay restaurants to prepare these meals so that we could then hire employees, start purchasing some product, get that economy going again,
08:15but more importantly, be able to hire our employees back to do something during the storm while we couldn't be open.
08:21We started making food with what we had in-house by filling up five-gallon water jugs running around town to the breweries who had potable water, because they use it in their brewing process.
08:34Restaurants feeding the community.
08:36Recovery Here isn't just about rebuilding.
08:38It's about working together, innovating, and continuing to give back.
08:43Yeah, well, when I pulled up, this place looked like a little oasis.
08:46It looked like it was ready to go.
08:47So, we were spared a lot of damage.
08:50There's no doubt about it, and we're thankful for that.
08:53And so, we need to give back.
08:56You've got a beer on the menu that's helping you give back.
08:59Is that right?
08:59Did I hear that correctly?
09:00Tell me about that.
09:01It's Highland Hays, and the intent is it's draft only, and the intent was to partner with our distributors in a four-state region and say,
09:10we have this beer, we want to support the hospitality industries, but every pint that we serve will go to support the local hospitality industry, which is suffering mightily.
09:22It took almost two months to get drinking water back to the residents and businesses of Asheville.
09:27And after lots of hard work, these businesses are back.
09:32Now, the only missing ingredient is visitors like you.
09:36Our restaurants are open.
09:37Our music venues are open.
09:39Our sports arenas are opening.
09:41We really need people to come visit.
09:43People should know Asheville's open for business.
09:45We are open for business, and we're ready for it, and we need it.
09:48Yeah.
09:48Yeah.
09:49Yeah.
09:49It's really heartwarming to be in town right now and to see what it feels like.
09:53So come, be part of this community, you know, help us recover, help us build, and help and experience what we have to offer.
10:01Cheers.
10:02Cheers.
10:02Cheers.
10:03We're glad to be here.
10:03Cheers.
10:10Hey, Kat.
10:11I got to say, the place is really looking good.
10:15I love the paint job.
10:16I love the color in this room.
10:18Thanks.
10:18This is actually going to be our son's room, and he actually picked out the color.
10:22He did.
10:23Yeah.
10:23I bet he'd like it now that he sees it on the wall.
10:26He did a nice job painting, too.
10:27Absolutely.
10:28All right.
10:28So I hear you are measuring for some window shades.
10:31Yeah.
10:32We want to do some inside mount shades that are blackout.
10:37Okay.
10:38This can be tricky.
10:38We want to measure the bottom, the middle, and the top.
10:43And we want to find out the smallest measurement and use that when we write it down.
10:47Okay.
10:48And we have to measure up and down.
10:50We want to make sure that everything is parallel.
10:52That makes sense.
10:52All right.
10:53So I brought something to help you measure.
10:55Hey.
10:55I like to take two sticks, and I put a little angle like that.
11:01On the other end, I cut a little angle like that, and I swing them around.
11:05So the angle is pushing out on each side.
11:09I lay it down on the window.
11:11Now, I push it tight there.
11:13I drag it over here.
11:16I push it tight.
11:17I bring the sticks together.
11:18I bring the sticks together.
11:19I want to make sure that I'm parallel with the window.
11:22Let's have that pencil so I can take and just mark this like this.
11:27Just put a mark on each stick.
11:28Just put a mark on each stick.
11:29Make sure that the line lines up.
11:31Now, if I take the sticks away, and you hold that with the two lines lined up nice and tight
11:39so it doesn't move, my long points right across here, and I have 38 and 3 sixteenths of an inch.
11:52Okay.
11:53Now, I'm going to take and I'm going to check it.
11:56That's perfect right there.
11:58Now, I'm going to take and move it up to the middle.
12:01Much wider in the middle.
12:05So, let's check the top.
12:07So, slide that ladder over.
12:09Again, I want my lines lined up.
12:14Put it in.
12:19Make the stick parallel with the opening of the window.
12:22And that is on the line.
12:26And that's perfect.
12:27No movement at all.
12:28Okay?
12:29Now, you've got a lot of windows to measure here.
12:33So, if we take the stick, because we'll put this back together.
12:38Hold it tight.
12:40I'm just going to take one quick piece of tape.
12:44Put it on here like that.
12:49And I can walk around to that window over there.
12:54Oh, that's great.
12:55We'll check and measure each window.
12:57Once we get that done, we can go to the store and get them cut.
13:00Sounds good.
13:01All right.
13:02All right.
13:06All right.
13:07We've got them all cut.
13:08Now, we're going to install one and see how it fits.
13:10Great.
13:11First thing we need to do is we put the mounting brackets across the bottom of the headstock.
13:16And I know that they have to be four inches in on each side.
13:19And I want to center them in the opening so that the shade or the blind doesn't interfere
13:25with the finger latch when you rise the window up and down.
13:29And an inch and three-quarter is our center mark.
13:36Now, we're going to find the center of the opening.
13:39So, it's 38.
13:40It'll be 19.
13:4119 or 16.
13:43And it comes out inch and three-quarters again.
13:48All right.
13:51Now that I have the three positions marked, I'm going to take a drill.
13:54I want to pre-drill holes for the screws to go in easier but actually hold better.
14:02All right.
14:03Now, what we're going to do is we're going to screw three of these brackets right here.
14:06I drilled a hole for that hole right there.
14:19All right.
14:20Let's see how it fits.
14:21Now, we have to angle these slightly, push them in like that, and then we got to twist
14:28them up.
14:29Ooh.
14:32Nice.
14:33Great.
14:34Look at that.
14:35And you have a new blind.
14:37Oh, it looks so good.
14:39All right.
14:40That's the first of many.
14:42We have them all cut.
14:43Do you think you guys can put them up?
14:44Yeah.
14:45I think Jeremy and I can figure it out.
14:46All right.
14:47Thanks for your help.
14:48My pleasure.
14:49Kat and Jeremy's house is freshly painted and they get that nice, crisp, clean look when
14:56you're using fiber cement siding and wood composite trim.
14:59Well, you want to get it right and there is a technique.
15:02So, to help us with Jim and Ali's house across the street, we brought in Mauro.
15:06Mauro.
15:07Wow.
15:08Good to have you in Carolina.
15:09Glad to be here.
15:10So, the siding and the trim on Jim and Ali, same as across the street.
15:15Yes.
15:16We're working with two different materials here.
15:18For siding, we have the fiber cement boards.
15:21You love this stuff.
15:22I love this stuff.
15:23Holds bench really well.
15:24I love it.
15:25And for the trim, we have this wood composite materials.
15:29They have this side with some texture, some graining on it.
15:33And over here, we have the nice and smooth.
15:35And the core is basically just wood flour.
15:37It's nothing but sawdust.
15:39Yeah.
15:40A little bit of glue and sawdust.
15:41Put it all together.
15:42Everything expands and contracts.
15:44Do these expand and contract at the same rate?
15:47At a different rate?
15:48This composite measure will contract, will expand a little bit and contract a little bit.
15:54Different from the fiber board.
15:56Okay.
15:57So, how do we get this prep so it's going to look as nice as the house across the street?
16:01The house looks great.
16:02This is going to look better.
16:03Game on!
16:04All right.
16:05First thing that we got to do, we're going to fill up all the nail holes and we're going
16:10to use an extra wood filler.
16:12So, we can fill that up.
16:13And then for the fiber boards, we're going to use an elastomatic caulking that we're going
16:17to fill up the nail holes.
16:18The nail holes is not that big, but we're going to sink in the nail a little bit.
16:22Okay.
16:23And fill them with caulking.
16:24And then when the side button up with the trim, then we're going to run a bit of elastomatic
16:28caulking all the way down here.
16:30All right.
16:31All right.
16:32That will seal it up nice and then with the movement of the material, the caulking will
16:35follow up the growth.
16:36So, maybe I do the nail holes and maybe you do the caulking and we can talk technique
16:40when we're into it?
16:41Absolutely, yeah.
16:42Let's get to work.
16:43We've got a house to beat.
16:44That's it.
16:45Always on the grain direction.
16:58So, Mauro.
16:59Yes.
17:00You're using wood filler.
17:01I'm using caulk.
17:03Why the difference?
17:04Well, here we're dealing with wood composite.
17:07A wood filler works better here.
17:08And then the fiber cement, the caulking is going to be more like a flexibility and durability.
17:14Different materials.
17:15Different solution.
17:16Different solution.
17:17Different solution.
17:18Different pillars.
17:19This, we're going to caulk.
17:20We're not doing anything here, but we're going all the sides all the way down.
17:34The last time I was here, I met fellow Mason Don Caldwell to assess the damage that was
17:39done to the chimney during the storm.
17:40We did find some brick that was lodged into the flue and that's when we brought in Alan,
17:45a local chimney sweep, to clean the chimney for us so we could get a better assessment.
17:49We did discover some damage and decided it was going to be costly and take up a lot of time.
17:54We know the homeowners do have some options and that's why I'm here to see Alan today.
17:58Alan.
17:59Hey, Mark.
18:00How are you?
18:01Doing great.
18:02You too.
18:03I can see they made a decision.
18:04They have.
18:05They have.
18:06They decided to go with a wood burning insert.
18:09You know, the fireplace, it just had a lot of problems.
18:11It was going to take a lot of money, a lot of work to bring it back to an operable fireplace.
18:16They decided to go for the cheaper option, but this is also a more efficient option.
18:21This will provide heat for the home as well.
18:23Yeah, so by using this, that's going to negate the work that we thought we were going to have to do.
18:27Correct.
18:28Okay.
18:29We're going to line the chimney with a stainless steel insulated liner and that should negate
18:33any kind of cracks or gaps or clearance issues inside the chimney.
18:36Okay, great.
18:38So before we're going to put this pipe in, a couple of things I noticed.
18:41The dampers in the way and so are some of these fire bricks.
18:44So the first thing I'm going to do is get my grinder and I'm going to make some relief cuts in the damper.
18:49And then I'm stuck with these two fire brick that are going to be in the way.
18:55So I got my hammer drill with a flat chisel on it and just pop these brick out.
19:00And I think I've given myself plenty of room to get the pipe in and make a clean connection.
19:09All right, so we've got our insulation rolled out here.
19:11It's a ceramic fiber insulation.
19:13It's half inch thick.
19:14We've got it rolled out.
19:16We're actually going to roll the liner into it and wrap the liner with it.
19:19And it's required by most manufacturers that their liners are insulated to maintain their warranty.
19:24And also the insulation keeps the flue liner warmer so that the chimney draws better.
19:30And also the chimney will collect less creosote.
19:34Next we're going to install this stainless steel sock or mesh that goes around the liner.
19:39Once the adhesives burn off, the stainless steel mesh will hold everything together.
19:50All right, Alan, it looks like I'm pretty cleaned up upstairs.
19:54Good deal.
19:55You guys are doing good out here.
19:56We're ready to drop it in the chimney.
19:58We're going to carry it up on the roof and then drop it in from the top.
20:00All right.
20:01I'll go inside.
20:02Keep my eyes open.
20:08All right.
20:09That looks good, man.
20:10You can come on down.
20:11Okay.
20:12All right.
20:13So we're actually going to elevate the wood stove insert a little bit.
20:15We're elevating it so that it has a more symmetrical look here.
20:18And just that was the customer's preference.
20:21So we use these fire bricks.
20:22That's going to elevate the unit.
20:24I really like the fact that we're using fire bricks.
20:26So that's great.
20:27And this one's going to go in the back.
20:30Take my next one.
20:32Put that in the front.
20:33So I noticed that we have the electrical installed.
20:36That's for the fan.
20:37Correct.
20:38That's been put in by an electrician and inspected.
20:40Let's get the fiber cement board in.
20:42Okay.
20:43And why are we using that?
20:44That's non-combustible.
20:45Okay.
20:46And now we're ready for the unit.
20:47Okay.
20:51All right.
20:52Lower it down very slow.
20:59There we go.
21:00All right.
21:01It's in place.
21:02All right, James, you can come back down.
21:03All right.
21:04You got to attach it with screws.
21:14I apply the silicone first to the terracotta liner,
21:16and then I attach the stainless steel top plate.
21:19It'll also act as a support for the chimney liner.
21:24And the last thing I do is to install this custom fabricated chimney cap.
21:30All right, Mark, you got that last screw.
21:32Yeah.
21:33I'm going to finish putting on this last piece of the backing plate.
21:36Looking good, guys.
21:37I got the chimney cap on, the top plate up there finished.
21:40Got the finished face plate to go on the backing plate here, and we'll be all done.
21:44All right.
21:45All right.
21:49All right.
21:50I believe we're all finished.
21:51All right.
21:53Guys, that looks great.
21:55I mean, I think we got to have a fire.
21:57Am I wrong?
21:58Absolutely.
21:59All right.
22:00Let's light it up.
22:01All right.
22:02I love the flame, guys.
22:05It's pulling right up.
22:15All right, guys.
22:16This is great.
22:17I want to thank you for letting me help.
22:19Until next time, I'm Mark McCullough.
22:21I'm Alan Justice.
22:22And I'm James Essert.
22:23From North Asheville for This Old House.
22:26All right, guys.
22:27Let's get warm.
22:28Great fire.
22:29All right.
22:37Next time on This Old House.
22:39We're going to build a concrete vanity with an integral sink for Paula's main bathroom.
22:43Okay.
22:44What those fibers are, they're like a steel cable, a hundred little filaments of fiber.
22:48And that's what gives it the strength.
22:49I always recommend soil testing just to know what you're working with, what the composition is.
22:53Then you have a baseline, right?
22:54Absolutely.
22:55Especially in a flood event like this, where we don't really know how the soil's been impacted,
23:00we'll get information that'll help us know how to go forward with that.
23:04That's next time.
23:19We'll see you next time.
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