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00:00That's right, it doesn't matter the year or era we're in, there's always more to talk about when it comes to Batman.
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01:01And now I imagine you've come here to hear me talk about some spoilers for The Batman, so I'm gonna do that.
01:06That's a fair warning for people who might be among the uninitiated who have not seen The Batman.
01:10Also, that's me saying I'm not gonna have a play-by-play, as always for my spoiler talks.
01:15Not gonna break down the entire movie.
01:17I mean, a lot happens in this two-hour, 55-minute movie.
01:19That is me saying I'm not going to touch on everything.
01:22The major plot points that stand out to me, though, yeah.
01:25So as The Batman starts out, which is funny enough, I thought they were going one way, and it...
01:30I thought they were zigging, and they zag.
01:32Because you see this POV, and it's a super rich person's house, and you see this mom, dad, and kid, and I was like,
01:36okay, it's The Waynes, we're gonna see The Waynes again.
01:38It's not The Waynes, though. It's The Riddler's first victim.
01:41He clubs this person, which... with the tool.
01:44If you know what you're looking at, you have yourself your first Riddler clue.
01:47In a world where nothing is trivial when it comes to The Riddler.
01:50Some things may be circumstantial.
01:51But I appreciate the fact that this movie actually did what Spider-Man Homecoming did,
01:55where it's like, okay, people know the story of the dead relative, or relatives, in this case, The Waynes.
02:01We don't have to show it. They know it.
02:03Let's just see Batman do stuff.
02:05Or vengeance.
02:06His name is funny. His name is Vengeance.
02:08I mean, it's not Batman. It's Batman, because it's Batman to us.
02:11But in the movie, it's like, his name is Vengeance.
02:13We saw it in the trailer, but we didn't know he was actually saying his name.
02:17I'm Vengeance.
02:18Yeah, because, you know, you got Vengeance, and you're Batman exacting Vengeance.
02:22No, I mean, that's my name. I'm Vengeance.
02:24Oh!
02:25That's how people treat him. They're like, hey, Vengeance.
02:27Come here. All right, that's a good call, Vengeance.
02:29All right, Vengeance, you coming?
02:30All right, Vengeance, let's do this.
02:32Why are you dressed like a bat?
02:33This is what Vengeance looks like.
02:35So you just have a V on your chest, right?
02:37No. Didn't you see the miniseries?
02:39V stands for victory, not Vengeance.
02:41Okay, it's just getting weird now.
02:43I did like the breakdown of it showing how Bruce Wayne deals with the fact that he's been so nocturnal for the past two years.
02:49He has a journal. He takes notes just to keep his days in order.
02:52As someone who has always been a night owl, has continued to this day, there's no fixing this internal clock.
02:57Yep, your days do bleed together.
02:59It's actually really smart to make a journal, but I'm not going to.
03:03Because I just, I know me.
03:04And this movie has a lot going on in it, man.
03:07Like Oswald Cobblepottos the Penguin, which Colin Farrell crushed it in this movie.
03:11And then that leads to showing Catwoman, Selina Kyle's working in his establishment to get close to Carmine Falcone,
03:17which I didn't even know he was in this movie.
03:20I didn't know Carmine Falcone was in this movie.
03:22I didn't know John Turturro played him in this movie.
03:25Both pleasant surprises, which shows that in my spoiler-free video, I was like,
03:28well, they're huge plot points I just can't talk about.
03:31So that's why I do videos like this. I thought John Turturro was great.
03:35I thought the execution of having him in this movie was great, too.
03:38He didn't feel like Carmine Falcone from Batman Begins.
03:41It was actually very much in line with Long Halloween.
03:44It's great to have the same character, but not feel redundant.
03:47It's definitely its own thing. Talented filmmaking right there.
03:50A lot of characters in this movie that were amazing.
03:53And Robert Pattinson was good in the movie, too.
03:55I have some things to say about the rendition of Batman in this movie.
03:58This version of Batman, how it didn't fully feel like Batman for me.
04:02Take it easy, sweetheart!
04:04Not saying Robert Pattinson's bad in it.
04:06The best I can say it is,
04:09Batman in this movie feels so different from any other on-screen Batman I've seen.
04:13In a world that does feel in line with Batman,
04:16you look at Gotham in this movie.
04:18Best rendition of Gotham I've seen on screen.
04:20But that felt like Gotham.
04:22Oswald Cobblepot felt like Penguin.
04:24Selina Kyle felt like Catwoman.
04:26Batman felt like what they did with Heath Ledger's Joker.
04:31And actually, it's the same argument.
04:32I've seen people like,
04:33Heath Ledger was great in the movie,
04:35but they don't dig that version of Joker
04:37because it doesn't feel like Joker to them.
04:39It doesn't feel like comic book Joker.
04:41It feels like a version of the Joker
04:42that was made to feel like a guy in the real world
04:45was just sick in the head, painted his face,
04:47he was a mass murderer.
04:48A Joker that we could see in the world
04:51sans the comic book element.
04:53Or it might be more apt to compare this execution to Joaquin Phoenix's Joker,
04:56which was even more of a reimagining of the Joker character.
04:59And that's what Batman specifically in this movie feels like.
05:02It feels like what it would look like
05:04if he turned on the news
05:05and saw a guy running around in a mask and a cape
05:09running down alleyways.
05:10You'd be like,
05:11is that guy trying to be Batman?
05:12No dick, I'm vengeance.
05:14It felt very much in line with that,
05:15which is a really bold move.
05:17I'll say that.
05:17It's a big swing to take.
05:19A Batman that doesn't feel like this mythical Batman
05:21feels like a person who just put on a costume
05:24and was like, I'm gonna fight crime.
05:25That point was really hammered home in the movie
05:27when he glided through the air.
05:29You know, like,
05:29I like seeing Batman with his cape and he's all gliding.
05:32No, not this Batman, not vengeance.
05:34He has a legit flying squirrel wingsuit.
05:36I mean, that is how he glides through the air.
05:38It does grow on you as a call they made in this movie.
05:41We're like, okay, they're taking it in a new direction.
05:43And if they spend a trilogy
05:44getting him to feel like this mythical Batman,
05:47I'm totally down.
05:48Because I thought the world was amazing
05:49and they just spent a trilogy
05:50getting Spider-Man to feel like Spider-Man.
05:53So, you know, that's kind of, it's a thing nowadays.
05:55But I suppose I found some connection in my head.
05:57When I thought of that,
05:58you remember that Mortal Kombat reboot
06:00or Mortal Kombat reimagining or short film
06:03back in 2011, 2011?
06:06Time flies.
06:08Where Reptile was a cannibal with a skin condition.
06:10Baraka was a plastic surgeon
06:12who put blades on his forearms.
06:13That was Mortal Kombat that took Mortal Kombat characters
06:16and was like, okay, let's say they were real
06:19in still kind of unrealistic ways.
06:21But we'll take all the magic and shit out of it
06:23and just make them people with skin diseases
06:25and plastic surgeons who are crazy.
06:27Kind of had a eureka moment
06:28when I made that connection
06:29between these two properties,
06:30Mortal Kombat Rebirth and the Batman.
06:32And how really they aim to do the same thing.
06:34And I enjoyed it when I saw it in Mortal Kombat.
06:37In fact, you look at the Riddler,
06:38the Riddler is in the same way
06:40that reimagining of what would the Riddler be
06:43if he was actually in the world.
06:45There's a part of me that was like,
06:46I could go for Riddler being 20% less eccentric.
06:50I don't know where I got that arbitrary ass number.
06:52I'm just saying a little less.
06:53Because I like collected Riddler,
06:55but if someone was crazy enough to be Riddler,
06:57he would probably be as unstable
07:00as Riddler in this movie is.
07:02It's funny because I feel like he wasn't unmasked.
07:04He wasn't caught until much later in the movie,
07:07probably comparatively,
07:08because it was like two hours into the movie,
07:10but that still means we have
07:10about an hour left of the movie.
07:13I don't even know if that time frame
07:14is not like I was checking my watch,
07:16which is a good sign.
07:17But Riddler's plan in this movie
07:19is to basically peel back
07:21and expose the corrupt bullshit
07:23behind the facade of the people in power.
07:26And that's where I come into conflict
07:27with the concept of this Riddler,
07:28this Riddler being a Riddler,
07:30but if he was in the real world,
07:32our world.
07:32Because in our world,
07:33we wouldn't need the Riddler.
07:34You just let politicians and people in power
07:36keep talking
07:37and their bullshit just
07:39ends up showing itself.
07:40So, no Riddler needed,
07:42but I can get behind.
07:43That's what makes the villain great
07:44is you can get behind the idea
07:47of exposing lies
07:48and corruption.
07:49But he's going about it all the wrong ways,
07:51including murder
07:52and mass murder shootout
07:54at the end of the movie.
07:55There were some scenes in this movie,
07:56like this movie from the trailer,
07:58it was like,
07:58oh, it looks like Seven with Batman.
08:00Then they get in the Riddler's place
08:01and I was like,
08:02this is like straight up from Seven.
08:04I do wish I had seen more Andy Serkis as Alfred.
08:06And you can make the argument,
08:07well, you've seen Alfred
08:08and Bruce Wayne in movies before.
08:10We get the relationship,
08:12but not this Alfred and Bruce Wayne.
08:14You're looking at Michael Caine.
08:15He was the butler.
08:16He cared for this kid.
08:17And then that kid became a man
08:18who left,
08:19trained with ninjas,
08:20came back,
08:21and then Alfred met him at the airport.
08:22And he had his back until the end
08:24where he was like,
08:24I'll fail too.
08:26I'll fail too.
08:27This Alfred trained Bruce Wayne to fight.
08:30He actually trained him to be Batman.
08:32I will say since Alfred felt like
08:34he was kind of in the background in this movie,
08:36he didn't feel like a main support character.
08:38That lack of screen time
08:39caused me to think
08:40when Alfred got blown up,
08:42I thought he might have actually died.
08:44Can't say I've experienced that
08:45in another Batman movie.
08:47I thought,
08:47well, this whole new direction,
08:49and you know,
08:49it's a whole new take on Batman.
08:51Alfred could die.
08:53And when Bruce Wayne gets to the hospital
08:54and he's told his touch and go,
08:55and we're hoping he pulls through him,
08:57like, okay, Alfred will be fine.
08:58But it wasn't like in Batman Arkham Origins
09:00where you're supposed to believe
09:01Alfred might be in peril.
09:03Maybe he'll die.
09:04And it never crosses your mind,
09:05not for a second,
09:06because you're like,
09:07this is a prequel to Arkham Asylum
09:08and Arkham City,
09:09and he is alive in there,
09:10so he's gonna be fine.
09:12As much as I wanted to see more Alfred,
09:14and I wanted more of that connection
09:16between Alfred and Bruce Wayne
09:17and this dynamic for this take on them,
09:20it did lead to me being like,
09:22Alfred might have died.
09:23I've never felt that before.
09:25Ever.
09:25So going to the end of this movie,
09:26the Riddler has this plan
09:28that actually mostly comes to happen.
09:31It gets down to the wire here.
09:33Batman finds out too little too late
09:34Riddler's plan
09:35because he doesn't know what that thing is
09:37that lays carpet down
09:38and puts it under the wall,
09:40and obviously neither do I,
09:42so I guess Gotham would be fucked
09:43if I was a protector.
09:44People be on YouTube videos like,
09:46he doesn't fully feel like Batman.
09:48He feels like a YouTuber
09:49dressed up like Batman.
09:50So these detonations go off
09:51in these key parts of Gotham,
09:52which makes the harbor
09:54just come in and flood Gotham.
09:56And then the Riddler
09:56on his super dark web chat room
09:58has gotten a lot of friends
10:00that all dress up like him,
10:02and they're up there
10:02with sniper rifles
10:03and just going to start popping shots,
10:05which I was like,
10:06oh, okay.
10:07So there's going to be
10:08some hard blue checkmark rage
10:10about this.
10:11I mean, there should be
10:12if there's consistency.
10:13Remember when Twitter thought
10:15that there's going to be
10:16some mass shootings
10:16in movie theaters
10:17because Joker was a movie,
10:19and it didn't happen?
10:20Now there's a Batman movie
10:21with an actual mass shooting.
10:23I suppose if there's
10:24not blue checkmark outrage,
10:25I'll give them props
10:26for chilling out
10:27over the course
10:28of the past couple of years.
10:29I'm just saying though,
10:30if consistency is consistent,
10:32and it never is on Twitter.
10:34Long story short,
10:34Batman saves the day
10:35doesn't change the fact
10:36that Gotham got really fucked
10:37with a lot of water.
10:39I do hope in the next movie,
10:40Zoe Kravitz comes back
10:42as Selina Kyle
10:43because I thought
10:43she was great in the movie.
10:44I mean, I don't know
10:45if she has a reason
10:46for her to come back,
10:48but I hope she does come back.
10:49Selina Kyle doesn't always
10:50have to be Catwoman
10:51because of the
10:51Carmine Falcone thing
10:52for many decades
10:53where she did
10:55her Catwoman thing
10:56not because of that.
10:57So we'll see what happens.
10:58Oh yeah, the end,
10:59the very end.
11:00Riddler's captured,
11:01he's in his cell,
11:01and then you hear
11:02someone chattering
11:03in the next cell at him,
11:04and it's clearly Joker.
11:05But not like Joker
11:06or Joker,
11:07new Joker.
11:08We have ourselves
11:09another Joker
11:09that's gonna happen,
11:10which I'm not really sold
11:12on another Joker
11:13right now.
11:14It's probably the execution of it,
11:16you know?
11:16It's just like,
11:16oh hey, Joker,
11:17and it's just other person
11:18and it's like,
11:20oh I guess they're bringing
11:21Joker in again.
11:21I enjoy things like that
11:23being events
11:24where it's like,
11:24oh Joaquin Phoenix is Joker
11:26and it's a big deal
11:27and it's this big thing
11:28that's happening
11:28and you're leading up to it
11:29because it's,
11:30it's the fucking Joker.
11:32Heath Ledger being cast
11:33as Joker
11:34was a huge part
11:35of the build up
11:35of the Dark Knight,
11:36you know?
11:37Joker,
11:38I get why
11:39they're having Joker
11:40in this world so soon
11:42because the movie Joker,
11:44which isn't this Joker,
11:45but is still the character,
11:47is the highest grossing rate
11:48in our film of all time.
11:50Well,
11:50I'm of a different mindset
11:51from studios,
11:52you know?
11:52I enjoy such things
11:54being events.
11:55It's the lack
11:56of having that thing
11:57so often,
11:58you know?
11:58The years in between
11:59those moments
12:00where we have a new Joker
12:01that makes Joker special.
12:02But Hollywood studios
12:03have a very different mindset.
12:04They're like,
12:05oh that movie made a lot of money?
12:06Sweet,
12:06here's all the Joker stuff.
12:07And that's what they're gonna do.
12:08That's what they did
12:09with Star Wars,
12:09you know?
12:09Star Wars used to be this thing
12:11that was just like,
12:12oh every three years or so
12:13we get a Star Wars movie.
12:14And then it was like,
12:14every year you have
12:15your Star Wars movie.
12:16Just kind of like,
12:17oh okay,
12:17new Star Wars is happening.
12:19I know.
12:19It ceases to be special.
12:21Looks like they're gonna
12:21do that with Joker.
12:22Different studio,
12:23same Hollywood bubble,
12:24so it's gonna happen
12:25the same way.
12:26And for nothing else,
12:27this kind of Joker cameo
12:28reminded me of
12:29the Harley Quinn cameo
12:31in Arrow.
12:31Where it was like,
12:32they were doing
12:33Suicide Squad in Arrow.
12:34I think it was season two.
12:35Otherwise known as back
12:36when Arrow was really good.
12:38It was Harley Quinn's
12:39silhouette behind a door
12:40and Amanda Waller
12:41hits the door.
12:41And that's all you get.
12:42It kind of reminded me of that,
12:43which worked for Arrow
12:44in that made for TV
12:46kind of way,
12:47in a TV show kind of way.
12:49But this feeling like
12:50a TV show thing
12:51just didn't really land with me.
12:52But in the end,
12:53The Batman is,
12:54it's gonna range
12:55like this for you.
12:56You're either gonna like it
12:56or love it.
12:57I can't see a lot of people
12:58hating the movie.
13:00You know,
13:00to hate it,
13:00be like,
13:01oh it sucks.
13:02I mean,
13:02some will,
13:03but that's not gonna be
13:04most of the conversation.
13:05Most of the conversation
13:06is gonna be like,
13:06okay,
13:07so that movie
13:07that was good.
13:08Let's talk about that.
13:09All right,
13:09so The Batman,
13:10now that it's out,
13:10have you seen it?
13:11What did you think about it?
13:12And how did you like the portrayal
13:13of Batman the character
13:15in this movie?
13:16Did he feel like Batman to you?
13:17Did he not?
13:18Are you cool with it?
13:19It's a conversation.
13:20Whatever you think,
13:21comment below,
13:21let me know.
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