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00:00:00Welcome to Tell Us in English. With the end of 2025 and the beginning of a new year,
00:00:122026, the President of Venezuela, Nicolás Maduro Moros, received journalist and international
00:00:19analyst Spanish journalist Ignacio Ramonet at this hour today for a special conversation
00:00:26about the countries present, about also the country's social and economic life at a time
00:00:31in which foreign powers are ramping up their pressure on the region and also against Venezuelans
00:00:38that in a context as well in which Venezuelans are showing the day today their commitments in
00:00:44the defense of their homeland and this has been shown on a daily basis for the past year, a year
00:00:50that also has been marked as well by many challenges for the Venezuelan people, that has been marked as
00:00:57well by continuous harassment by the US administration of President Donald Trump but nothing has put
00:01:06Venezuelans back on their goal which is preserving peace which is defending as well their social
00:01:12achievements which is also putting the people at the forefront of the political decision making of
00:01:18the country, the country that has as well been performing and following closely and with much respect their
00:01:27political agendas, their electoral calendars as well. The people have been going to the polls on several
00:01:35occasions on four occasions for the past year to elect the social projects that they want to prioritize in
00:01:43in their communes also people that have been enlisting and preparing to defend the country at any cost
00:01:51and whatever even if it takes in offering their own lives as well. Now let's listen to the statements
00:02:00and this special interview that Telesur is bringing to your TVs at this hour.
00:02:04of interviews of the end of the year it was the 1st of January of 2017 17 yes 17 when we published the 10
00:02:15victories of the President Maduro of the 17 which was a year of the 120 days of Guarimba the year of the
00:02:24constituent and the miraculous peace the year that we triumph in the election of the governor it's the most
00:02:30competitive one that we have had out of 23 we won 20 then we won the mayor offices of the country it was
00:02:39a year politically speaking very fruitful and then came all of this year's 18 19 20 in that moment the
00:02:49year's 2016 right because this was the 1st of January of 2017 there was like in the international press
00:02:56the idea that this was going very badly and that there was a campaign that was very open against
00:03:05your government and also against your person and in that we had not had still that didn't have the shape
00:03:15of an interview a formal one but there were interviews that we did in the last days of December
00:03:22and from there I did a text and it was transformed into a news report and in the news report we proved
00:03:30how in reality that year that they pretended to be a dark year a shady one it was a year that effectively
00:03:38of great victories for the revolution and for the country that is a little bit looking
00:03:46in the media's manipulation the media headlines it's a little bit where the center of cognitive war and
00:04:04the psychological war is year after year staying in the headlines and the show of the right and they
00:04:14don't go into the death that we live from the deepness with the people year after year moment after
00:04:21moment the skin of the news that is hidden and it hides the end of the reality it is a beauty caracas
00:04:29is very beautiful this is called the plaza of silence it was designed by the general president isaias
00:04:37medinangarita with a great architect and it was part of a vision that was had in a time of the 20th century
00:04:46with the working bank houses for the working class this plaza was filled by fidel in the meeting the
00:04:54biggest mitten on january 23rd of 1959 he came up already victorious and it was the first country that
00:05:01fidel visited here he was and that was iconic as the biggest meeting the biggest political action
00:05:09of the history of venezuela until commander chavez on october 4th of the year 2012 in the ending of his
00:05:18campaign filled the seven avenues including avenue believer which is what we're going to go through at
00:05:24the moment there was when the cordonaz of san francisco of course under the rain i had never gotten as
00:05:32drenched as that day with rain october the 4th the cordonaz of san francisco did you get a flu no here
00:05:40people don't get a flu because the weather is not that cold but we got very drenched even our socks had
00:05:47we're completely drenched driving in caracas is not easy and in venezuela because there is there
00:05:54are many bikes that have been made here and that is due to what they're cheap they're very cheap and
00:06:05there's systems of credit and there's everything they're electric they're of gas especially of gas and
00:06:10those bikes they're very simple to access the credit there's great companies that ensemble them and
00:06:20they have prospered very much and of course we have a problem which is the subject of the amount of
00:06:27accidents that we have and now we're starting a campaign that we're going to reinforce in january for
00:06:33the motor owners and their families to take care of because there has been many especially in december
00:06:38many accidents painful accidents look this bike here is going very slow he's very tranquil in his fast
00:06:49lane that is caracas precisely and here exactly we are now entering the avenue bolivar how many citizens
00:06:58does caracas has the great caracas because caracas the original one is where we are at the moment
00:07:04but the great caracas is almost five municipalities the municipality libertador which is where the
00:07:10capital is the municipality of chacao baruta and at the and the municipality of secret which is known
00:07:16as better it is calculated about six million people in all of the great caracas truly look this is the
00:07:24famous corner of loyada there's a commercial activity that had never been here it is impressive truly
00:07:32it gives an idea of the normalcy also of a life at this moment look let's start if you want formally
00:07:41our interview go ahead first i want to start and i want for it to be told that i truly appreciate that
00:07:50you give me once more this interview because i know that you have a very tight and busy agenda especially
00:07:59in the circumstances and i want to start with a subject of economy president because it has talked
00:08:06a lot of geopolitics and obviously we're going to talk about geopolitics but it just came out a report
00:08:12of the eclac which is the organization of economy in latin america and this report says that the biggest
00:08:19growth of latin america this year 2025 is had by venezuela with a growth estimate of nine percent
00:08:27and then the question president is how in these circumstances a country that is blocked a country
00:08:33that is under unilateral coercive measures that are illegal a country that is also very threatened by
00:08:42the united states how do you accomplish this economical miracle that is a very good question do you see
00:08:50first i want to greet our guests here we have sila floros my wife special guest and also we have here
00:08:59the philosopher poet alfred nazaret nyanez that is paying attention here of all of the debate that we
00:09:07are having the pilot and co-pilot this is the second year the consecutive year that venezuela leads the
00:09:15growth of the real economy of latin america and the caribbean we have 20 continuous trimesters since
00:09:25in 2020 when we took off i remember that when i exposed to you the economical plan for the interview
00:09:34that you published on january 1st of the year 2022 that you can check we were talking about we had
00:09:42designed a plan of economical engines for each engine to start with its own force economical engines
00:09:50that were truly from a venezuelan root of its own pertinent to reality there were not things that we
00:09:59invented and that the development of each engine in its capacity of real growth and the articulation of
00:10:08all of the engines were starting to give already results in 2021 we had the two first trimesters of
00:10:16miraculous growth we were in the middle of the pandemic we were coming out of the pandemic and i
00:10:23made the idea of the method which was known as the method seven by seven that allowed us for to start
00:10:31that growth if you ask me from the spiritual point of view and it is said that it is a miracle but from
00:10:41the spiritual point of view of venezolan identity i would say that the growth of this new economy now of
00:10:4914 engines is the growth of the spirit the entrepreneurial spirit and of the way in which all society
00:10:57made itself it redid itself it reinvented itself the venezolan family the men the women the entrepreneur
00:11:06the businessmen the workers they all reinvented themselves from the simplest business of selling
00:11:13coffee of selling arepas the state also created the conditions of course from the most simple
00:11:20entrepreneur businesses people started redoing themselves it was all done and it was starting to
00:11:25produce what was always said to be impossible the foods of venezuela the meat the milk the chicken
00:11:32the corn the rice and many other examples that was before but with the money of the petroleum yes the
00:11:40petroleum stream deformed everything we did not choose to have a model that depended on petroleum we did
00:11:47not decide that when i was born in the year 62 they had already imposed the model of the capitalism that
00:11:54depended on petroleum and we were equal petroleum colony from the u.s what we elected was to start
00:12:02building the bases to break the relationship to build a new model and commander chavez left the lines
00:12:09in the plan of the homeland and we tried in the worst moment in the blockade that they did where they took
00:12:1799 of the petroleum incomes there was nothing there was no production in venezuela we were not able to
00:12:24import anything and we said let's move forward we're going to grow in this situation that was what
00:12:29happened venezuela grew itself from the spiritual point of view from the point of view of the doctrine
00:12:36on the economical policy we designed a policy that was absolutely correct of an economy that was real with
00:12:42real values that was articulating in a new productive force and what is what grew last year then we had
00:12:50nine percent of growth and that this year that is going to be about nine percent maybe more what is
00:12:56growing the real economy grows it also grows the economy that produces services goods that produces wealth
00:13:04in an advanced space that truly amazes we have very important elements look i'm sorry to comment
00:13:16look at that beauty how beauty that is the plaza of the victory it was just the 80th anniversary of
00:13:23the victory against the nazi fascists of hitler look at that plaza the union of russia venezuela and the flag of the
00:13:29soviet union yes so that the real economy growth each section of the 14 engines the real 14 engines and
00:13:38the great challenge now as i have been saying is that the 14 engines to apply a line of diminishing almost
00:13:47to disappear radically everything that is imported and do everything in venezuela the second to have a line
00:13:54of export of export of export that is not petroleum new sources of currencies and in the third place to
00:14:03fulfill the market to supply the market i could say that in a better formula which is to substitute
00:14:11radically all the imports all of them until we reach zero imports on each line and in second place produce
00:14:18everything to continue fulfilling 100 of the national market then also in the foods and everything
00:14:24in everything in everything we're talking about public services goods all the necessities that the
00:14:31country has the clothes the shoes everything the footballs everything everything produce everything
00:14:40cars of course and in the third place to continue growing in the grain engine of the exports are no
00:14:49petroleum to continue growing in the exports of foods that come from the sea from organic products of the
00:14:56land to continue exporting our coffee that is growing and the best in the world exporting chocolate cocoa
00:15:09we already did the path we are exporting each time more so it is an economy that has great challenges
00:15:16to continue articulating itself because no one can sing victory one thing is to move forward in a path but
00:15:25another one is saying no everything is ready this is still being done and being built and the 14 engines
00:15:32have proven great vitality and the good news that for the second year the consecutive year we lead from the
00:15:39venezuela that is under threat we lead the economical growth of all of latin america and the caribbean that
00:15:46is in great news president that success that is economical does not stop that for the time there's still an
00:15:56increase again an inflation so the question is in this context that is so difficult let's say from the
00:16:04geopolitical point of view that we were talking about what strategies does your government have to control
00:16:12the inflation to stabilize the currency and to improve the buying power of those who have pensions of the
00:16:22workers of those who have salaries well in the first place we have had a strategy that is absolutely
00:16:28correct which is the indexing of all of the incomes this is not talked about in the world but this is a
00:16:34formula that we we have which is the indexing that has allowed together with entrepreneurship to
00:16:40combine the works that were created employment right of indexing and also familiar businesses and
00:16:50of cooperatives among workers because venezuela has one of the internal markets that are the most powerful
00:16:57and we have what i call from september of last year of the year 2024 an overheating an internal overheating
00:17:07of commerce so in december this year the commerce and the sales and the consumption grew by 34 percent so
00:17:18there's an overheating that has been very significant and if there is an excess of the offered national
00:17:29and imported products already the nationals covered 90 of all the products of the national market and there
00:17:37is a growth of commerce to 34 this year again which means that there is a capacity of buying a real one a
00:17:48capacity of consumption in the venezuela family and the venezuelan family that is watching us
00:17:52knows that it's like this now that needs to be consolidated as a model the other subject
00:17:58which has to do with the permanent speculative attack on the currency is a subject that we have
00:18:05overcome by stages and by stages it is also turned in what we could say the central objective of that extreme
00:18:14right and of the campaigns of economical threat and economical blockade of the empire one of the
00:18:20objectives now with all of this subject of the attack to the petroleum ships to the selling of
00:18:25the petroleum of venezuela is to once again perturb the money life and the balances that we have
00:18:32accomplished and consolidated in previous stages it is a perturbation that we know how to face that we're
00:18:39going to and that when we do the podcast in a year we will see that we would have overcome it let's talk
00:18:48celia how do you feel very well yes there's no coffee around right no they didn't put yes yes there is
00:18:59help us with a coffee
00:19:01let's talk now we are already in los process very beautiful i don't know if the pictures will show
00:19:11it right this is the nationality plaza that is the name very pretty this is the metro this line that was
00:19:20built here is the metro of caracas this is a very beautiful area that i know very well because i
00:19:25grew this places this is your birth neighborhood it's around here yes we're going to pass by and
00:19:34i'm going to show it to you i like being around here and i be in these times of parties because
00:19:40there's a lot of people and it's very joyful yes correct we are on our way since you reminded me
00:19:48we're going to pass through where i was born very good look president i want to talk of something else
00:19:54that it is not talked too much which is the originality of the political model of venezuela
00:20:02this year 2025 you particularly not that is a new thing but you have stimulated very much this year
00:20:10the communal state right and in this context why have you decided to deepen the self-management
00:20:19popular self-management instead of centralizing the control in the modern moment that has so many
00:20:25threats against venezuela what is the commune is it the answer the political answer facing the model
00:20:33of liberal democracy that the west pushes is there a specific model of venezuela democracy in which you're
00:20:43thinking of i believe that that model was born with the blue book of 1990 commander chavez when he already
00:20:52talked of the olivarian democracy the popular democracy look this is the san pedro plaza right
00:20:58there i was baptized don't tell there i also had my first communion and i studied in the school of san pedro
00:21:05which is a nun school of nuns and yes well i grew around here this was how does what a beautiful church
00:21:20the mass of december the 31st pedro which was also the name of simon right here i studied in this school
00:21:28of san pedro these are memories that cannot be deleted and in this building i was born and raised in an
00:21:34apartment of 50 square meters right there's a balcony that you talk on yes that balcony but in that time
00:21:43it did not have a window it was an open balcony these buildings were years the 50s in the times of
00:21:49venez jimenez and you said that in your building italians portuguese spanish people lived right very
00:21:57cosmopolitan right yes when i was a child i understood because the mothers of my friends spoke italian
00:22:04in their homes and i also did because i was raised right my closest friend when i was 12 was also
00:22:11italian he was sicilian these were from the south and some were also from rome
00:22:20and i remember that i understood italian i did not speak it but being a child i understood everything that
00:22:27the mothers of my friends said and also portuguese then i learned how to speak a little bit of portuguese
00:22:33with some companions from brazil and many galicians also lived around here many galicians families
00:22:42here they were very hard working all of the spanish community the portuguese let me tell you that that
00:22:50you know as areperas that were made popular do you know this alfred nazareth the areperas that are so
00:22:58typical they were made famous by the portuguese that discovered the way of doing arepas and the little
00:23:05holders open in the middle the food that they put in and then they invented the poco de areperas
00:23:10well in another you get all of the filling that you want i love the areperas yes well for you to have
00:23:18that data there yes the arepa is venezuelan but the areperas are such as a business as the selling of the
00:23:31arepa region filled with things that is an invention of the portuguese community and now on the subject of
00:23:39democracy without any doubt thank you silica without any doubt the democracy of the west the democracy
00:23:48that is known as classic and also called liberal
00:23:53it entered into eternal exhaustion it doesn't represent the people so democracies without people
00:23:59their democracies that are manipulated their democracies for the minorities and each time more
00:24:04their democracies that work from the multi-millionaire from the great consortiums and their democracies
00:24:11that are under the manipulation of social media and the manipulation emotional manipulation of social
00:24:17media so the community the citizen has no power in those democracies in the fundamental it doesn't mean
00:24:24that there's no positive experiences in what they call the democracy in the west of course there is
00:24:29so as from the beginning our original project inspired him while he was in simon rodriguez in ezequiel samora
00:24:38in the blue book commander chavez talks on redoing democracy through a popular constituent process
00:24:45and redoing the formula of democracy to build a democracy of every day a democracy that is permanent
00:24:51a democracy with the people but the power is given completely to the people and what is power
00:24:58in the first place the power is political it's deciding deciding the public policies in the second
00:25:07place it is also deciding the pre assumptions of the nation and the power of culture power of education
00:25:15so that is what we are building commander chavez founded the communal councils founded the council of the
00:25:21communes and you can remember how he gave me that task but he also gave it to all of us he told me
00:25:30nicolas grabbing my shoulder i give you the task of the communes the same way i would give you the task
00:25:37of my life when he said that i felt here in my shoulder next to him the weight of the centuries but
00:25:45fortunately our people grabbed that weight and now it's not heavy anymore look my shoulders are free
00:25:53because our people are now exercising the direct democracy so this year we had four national
00:25:59consultations of course for ap efe cnn upi afp for the western media democracy that is direct does not
00:26:10exist for them what exists is the permanent attack against the bolivarian venezuela but here i challenge
00:26:19whoever wants to debate whether they have any name or the position that they hold i challenge them to
00:26:26debate in each neighborhood or any neighborhood that they want of caracas with our people not with
00:26:31me with our people so they can see how a new democracy is being built we do not pretend to be a model for
00:26:39anyone but we do feel proud of what we are building so the people is being empowered forging itself
00:26:48forming itself for consultations one every three months and also this year we approved
00:26:57the number of 33 000 popular projects finance built that our works
00:27:04health places health clinics popular ones called cdi schools high schools
00:27:15reality in roads infrastructure homes for grandparents homes for the youth and many other examples
00:27:22resolution and problem solution where do the projects come from from the neighbors assembly
00:27:28and how are these projects approved it's not approved by a major minister or a president i do not approve
00:27:34this community look do this thing or not they approve it with their vote by the people 33 000 projects it was
00:27:41invested over 330 million dollars where the those 330 million dollars came from it came from the 14 engines
00:27:51the taxes that are charged he sells to the outside petroleum those petroleum ships that go out are then
00:27:57turned in community works are turned in necessity in solution to the necessity so i believe that we are
00:28:05building a vigorous democracy of permanent cycle of direct participation where the people have the power and
00:28:14only the people decide that's why i do and i use his mind the expression of chavez which have i said
00:28:24it is not a man it is a people it's not maduro is a republic is a people and what maduro does is be the
00:28:35interpreter of a power which is the popular power how many communists are there's currently in the country
00:28:42president there's 49 000 communal councils 49 000 yes and there's 4 100 communes but we are organized for
00:28:58the trimestral consultations in 5336 communal circuits how is this well whenever there is communes
00:29:08the commune articulates the communal councils and it is a communal circuit but when there's still no
00:29:15communes they were organized communal circuits for the people to be able to vote at the side so it is
00:29:20our own model we did not copy it from anyone and that is both in the cities and in the countryside in the
00:29:30capital and in the provinces from north to south and from east west if you go to the furthest mountain
00:29:38in the group of houses in the field in the neighborhood that you desire if we went to any
00:29:44neighborhood what happened is that the people celebrated the 31st at this hour but wherever you
00:29:49want to go at this time any place you can go and there is a communal council a community there's
00:29:57spokes offices leadership 70 percent of the leadership are women so it is really what i call 2025 has been
00:30:08the big bang of the democratic power of Venezuela is part of the national power
00:30:15mr president you have criticized and the nouns you just did it a while ago
00:30:23the existence of a media war and cognitive war against venezuela against the bolivarian process how
00:30:31does your government fight for the truth of what happens here reaches the international public opinion
00:30:39especially in a moment as this one in which the communication is dominated by social media
00:30:47we created a national system that started already also to have an international impact which is what
00:30:55i called a book i published as well like a manual which is from the streets to social media and from
00:31:04social media to the media from the media to the walls and radio limbs which is the name in Venezuela
00:31:11which in other places is called the powerful mouth so we have been building a system there's still
00:31:16many things to be done but truly i feel very happy of how millions of men and women here in venezuela and
00:31:26in the world defend the truth of venezuela the war is cognitive because the war is for the brain the brain
00:31:33it handles the emotions and it handles concepts the war is cognitive and for a cognitive war
00:31:44needs to create force of conscience of value spiritual force and give the battle with the truth
00:31:51our biggest weapon is not a nuclear rocket
00:31:54our biggest weapon is the truth of venezuela which is irrefutable which is demolishing and that
00:32:09when they open a gap like this to tell our truth truly the lights are turned on for
00:32:18for the well-being of our country we defend our right to peace
00:32:21we defend our right to the national sovereignty the international right that guarantees the self
00:32:29determination of the peoples we defend the right to the future and to development their fundamental
00:32:35rights guaranteed by the un and by all the international treaties the right to the development
00:32:42of the people the right to the future the right to peace and we defend a glorious history the history
00:32:50of the liberators of america so i believe that this system of streets networks media and walls is
00:32:57going to grab each time more force more body and it's going to allow us in the year 2026 and in the
00:33:04years to come for venezuela to be known by its truth and not through so much manipulation and so much
00:33:12dirty attacks that they do mr president precisely in that sense these surveys the recent surveys and
00:33:21the independence one they show that at this moment venezuela has a great consensus of the nation
00:33:31the majority of venezuelans reject the current threats of the us how do you interpret
00:33:38this popular support this popular support and what strategies are you implementing in your
00:33:46government to maintain the unity in this moment the venezuelan people i believe that the people
00:33:52especially in the world i would say because i speak from the heart of a man this one that is here
00:34:03that through these streets that we are circulating at this moment and the parish of el bay in this
00:34:10neighborhood he was raised as a simple person humble person i am not a tycoon i do not want to be i want
00:34:19to continue being what i'm going to be a simple man of the people that governs from the people and with the people
00:34:28now in the world they have to understand the public opinion of the u.s needs to understand that the
00:34:38peoples are peoples of the south have the right to exist to live they can't try to impose with the
00:34:46monroe doctrine or any other doctrine a new colonial model a new model of hegemony a new model that is
00:34:55interventionist a model within the countries we have to assign ourselves to be a colony of a world power
00:35:04and we the peoples that were slaves of new masters that is not viable in the 21st century totally not
00:35:12viable and they have to understand these numbers that there are i imagine that in the high levels of
00:35:21decision of the state in united states of the state in general of all of the institutions
00:35:32they must have data of how it is behaved because there's something that they now call big data and
00:35:40they do it with artificial intelligence that you can have the public opinion of all the countries
00:35:44according to the use of the networks can i come make a confession here we are for that for a confession
00:35:54can i tell him celia we have artificial intelligence that is advanced big data and artificial intelligence
00:36:02of many countries it is not complicated to have it now we have the technology
00:36:07technology not only is it one of the ways that we have to measure the public opinion but also of
00:36:17other countries so those world powers also have it and they have to know that the reaction
00:36:24the immune action of the venezuelan society facing the assault and the theft of its petroleum has been a 95
00:36:34percent of rejection they need to know that the current government of the us in venezuela and in latin
00:36:42america but i speak for venezuela i'm not going to give you data of latin america we can talk on it
00:36:47on another day another conversation they need to know that 95 percent rejects what is being done by the
00:36:54current government of the u.s of militarily threatened venezuela it is the immune reaction of the entire
00:37:00venezuelan society they need to know that this person that they have put as the chief
00:37:10of the right is very isolated and repudiated in venezuela today we could say the us has no political
00:37:18force aligned in venezuela because this lady named maria machado in venezuela called la sayona
00:37:25has the 85 percent of rejection of repudiation total of the venezuela society never nor her nor what
00:37:38she represents would have the capacity to rule this country and i know that they know that in the north
00:37:46they know that and in general in the world they know it and they have to know that we
00:37:50the patriotic forces of the country president maduro beyond the psuv beyond the great patriotic
00:38:00pool in this moment has over 70 percent of the backup in the fight that i'm giving for the defense
00:38:08of the national sovereignty and for peace over 17 those numbers we had never had them before
00:38:15and here there has been support to commander chavez in all of its stages and we have also acquired
00:38:23support in different stages that we have proved in in electoral processes there's very strong numbers
00:38:30that tell you the state of the national public opinion and how venezuela has accomplished a level of
00:38:37consensus of national union that had never been seen before i call it the union perfect
00:38:45popular military and political but we could even call it the widest union of all of these sectors the
00:38:53national union that we had never had
00:38:57that is the immune response the national one of the venezuela society to the aggression that is illegal
00:39:04disproportionate and threatening
00:39:07war mongering that we have suffered during 28 continuous weeks exactly let's talk now we're on the valley
00:39:19my parish yes look a movement of here people by at the last minute the eyes caracas is divided in
00:39:28parishes right yes parishes it was always like this in parishes between by churches yes it is the
00:39:35political territorial division political administrative ecclesiastical old correct this is the paris of
00:39:44and bias here you go up to the neighborhood of samora in the street that here you still have great
00:39:49friends and right you go to the samora neighborhood and you reach the mata so it was cold like that because
00:39:56there was a warehouse there when they killed kennel here's samora and here this is the 19th of april also
00:40:04called la seba as well here's metro as well this was la seba and here is longgaray this is an area that i
00:40:12know very well i knew it very well in those years 76 80 the 80s and something we had jobs in all of these
00:40:24neighborhoods with the movie club baseball groups football groups theater groups and of political
00:40:31work i grew up here 14 15 16 18 years and this is the high school where was the epicenter of a
00:40:38revolutionary movement the high school jose avalos unforgettable all of this the neighborhood of
00:40:47cerro grande very excited to be here we have to say that we it is the 31st we are saying goodbye to the
00:40:57year and it is very important this interview is going to be posted on the day first but let's say that
00:41:06it is very live right yes i thank you very much a podcast the first podcast that we do let's talk
00:41:17then on the military threat of the u.s the country has venezuela has for over five months supported with
00:41:27is withstood this military naval threat this deployment in front of the venezuela coast and the
00:41:35question that many people are asking themselves how do you interpret the intention of the united states
00:41:42what are the u.s looking for are they looking to pressure to break the unity of which we just spoke
00:41:49on the unity of the revolution the unity of the national bolivarian armed forces the unity of the
00:41:58bolivarian government and the people or are they trying to to start a true attack to proceed what it's
00:42:11called a regime change how do you interpret this attack i believe that there is an open debate in
00:42:20the society of the u.s here in venezuela as well what is the current government of the u.s looking for
00:42:29with all of these threats that are unusual illegal and they have also been said to be extravagant as well
00:42:38and what is their goal what are they looking for and it is evident that they look to impose through the
00:42:50path of threat intimidation and force all of this violates international law of peace that was established
00:43:00after the war with the founding of the organization of the united nations
00:43:09in 1945 precisely
00:43:13if a while ago it was the 80th anniversary of the founding of the united nations and the international
00:43:20law the u.n charter which is the backbone of all international law after the war
00:43:26prohibits and expressly condemns that a country threatens another one with the use of force
00:43:37it prohibits it it condemns it and it establishes as an international felony and it condemns and prohibits
00:43:46the use of the force of the state against another one among other elements this has a great legal
00:43:55content and officials while they're violating the international laws in a bold way and it also has
00:44:04a great ethical component moral because the people of the united states needs to wonder if the elected
00:44:13the current government were to start in military interventions again in latin america in the
00:44:20principle it was on the contrary they elected this president because it promised not to do interventions
00:44:28foreign countries that's why i say the public opinion of the us the social communicators but especially
00:44:34the working people the youth of the us the christian people my christian brothers of christian churches
00:44:40and i am a member of a church they need to ask themselves if it's ethical if it's moral and if
00:44:50it's christian to do what they're doing if they elected their government for it to start again the
00:44:58military interventions in latin america and the caribbean for look for regime change through force in
00:45:05latin america and the caribbean for it to give crews promoting crews as well in latin america and the
00:45:12caribbean for it to start the preparation for a great war one of those eternal wars because i have said it
00:45:21in my speeches and also in my song not war not crazy war right not crazy war yes peace i have said it
00:45:32but i said it even and then it was transformed in a song in everything then i have said no to a war in
00:45:43vietnam again or is it that they're proud in the u.s of what happened in vietnam i don't think so if you
00:45:51do a survey 80 percent of the u.s do not want a vietnam war they do not want a new afghanistan war
00:45:58or are they proud of afghanistan are they going to bring a vietnam war an afghanistan war an iraq war
00:46:06or a libya war here for the caribbean south america these are reflections these are reflections so the
00:46:12policies of the current government of the u.s is against what the u.s society aspires and what
00:46:20humanity aspires because humanity what it aspires for is dialogue diplomacy peace respect between the
00:46:28states respect between the peoples we are within our law i as the president i am within my law we are
00:46:38within our law the international law in the constitution we are defending what is the most
00:46:43sacred thing that we have our land or natural resources because what is the goal what is the
00:46:50goal of the current government of the u.s they already have said it they have already said it to
00:46:57take all of the petroleum of venezuela they have already said it the gold the rare earth the richness of
00:47:05venezuela so there's an expression in spanish that says not like that not like that we want peace
00:47:17we want respect to international law and we expect in the weeks and months that are to come for the
00:47:27society of the society of the u.s the world society to be able to generate answers to dissipate and end
00:47:35with all of this threat the most serious media have already said that some of the arguments that are
00:47:44advanced by the administration of the u.s in this pressure against venezuela for example saying that it was
00:47:53because venezuela is a country that produces cocaine they are they have already said that that is not
00:48:01truth these statistics i don't say it it is not said by the venezuelan government it is said by the media
00:48:08of the u.s it makes no sense it does not correspond to the scientific reality proven by anyone that knows on
00:48:18the subject only the matter of petroleum also the declaration of the president of the u.s has been
00:48:27the saying that he is against the nationalization of petroleum that was previous to chavismo even
00:48:39since it happened in the 70s years at the beginning of the 70s at the 76 actually so it makes no sense as
00:48:47well as you said there is like it cannot clearly be seen which is the concrete argument look on that
00:48:56i can comment venezuela has a model i would say perfect of combat to drug trafficking today we
00:49:06accomplished to make it to dutch the foreign aircraft of colombian drug trafficking number 40.
00:49:13who did the venezuelan sequoies to the pilot my recognition today it was neutralized in combat in
00:49:23the venezuelan valleys the last the president chief of the train del llano of guarico and four of his
00:49:32criminal minions it was the last one that was left we have a perfect model to combat drug trafficking and
00:49:38the criminal gangs so all of the cocaine that is moved in this region is produced in colombia all of
00:49:44it all of the cocaine were the victims of colombian drug trafficking not from today from decades and
00:49:53we have accomplished with our model to control the impact that colombian drug trafficking had in
00:50:02venezuela in the past 10s so we have a tremendous comeback in the border we dedicated thousands of
00:50:09millions of resources to have police soldiers operational because the border the colombian border
00:50:17is completely deprived of military and political protection we have created three zones of peace
00:50:24in all the 2200 kilometers of border with colombia but there's no collaboration from the colombian side
00:50:31so all of the work we had to do it and these 40 aircraft the 40 were coming from colombia
00:50:39with the law in our hands the law of introduction it was warned with time it was done everything
00:50:47that needed to be done and then the rockets of the sequoia we today arrived to the 431 aircrafts of
00:50:56foreign drug trafficking and colombians that were rendered with the law in our hands so we have a
00:51:02an exemplary model that is very efficient so everything else looks it's part of
00:51:13a narrative that in the u.s doesn't even believe due to no motive and simply
00:51:20since they can't accuse me since they can't accuse venezuela of having mass destruction weapons since
00:51:29they can't accuse us of having nuclear rockets of being creating a nuclear weapon of having chemical
00:51:38weapons then they invented an accusation that the u.s knows that is as false as that accusation of the
00:51:45destruction mass weapons that took them to an eternal war the u.s knows that that is false so i believe
00:51:53that all of that needs to be put aside and start talking truly with data underhand and the government
00:52:00of the u.s knows it because we have said it to many of their spokesperson that if they want to seriously
00:52:07talk of an agreement of combat against drug trafficking we are ready that if they want the venezuelan
00:52:16petroleum venezuela is ready for the investment of the u.s like with to run whatever they want whatever
00:52:22they want and how they want it in the u.s they must know that if they want integral agreements of
00:52:28economical development also here venezuela as i have said once and a thousand times look what happened with
00:52:35the subject of migrants i have to say because we reached an agreement on the 31st of january of
00:52:46this year with the envoy with rental it was working perfectly and three weeks ago the authorities of
00:52:51the government of the u.s renounced to continue sending migrants to venezuela and simply they didn't
00:53:01send any more migrants so they talk on the subject of migration but they are the ones that suspended
00:53:06the migration agreement among other subjects as well that if someday there was rationality and diplomacy
00:53:14they could be perfectly talked on and we have the maturity and the height and we're also people of our
00:53:20world remnant we're people of our world serious people and someday that could be talked with the
00:53:27current government or whoever comes later we are arriving through here what else do you have
00:53:34do we continue with our path the time has lasted right a very important question among the
00:53:43declarations that are being done look at this beauty this walk it is beautiful then we're going to
00:53:52come down from the car for you to see here our heroes and female heroes as well in this
00:53:58beautiful monument look at that beauty cilia beautiful
00:54:04i dedicated to you cilita
00:54:08i would say president that one of the decorations the last decorations of washington is that there's been like
00:54:14an attack through land in venezuela against a supposed factory of drug creation precisely your
00:54:23government up to this moment has not confirmed not unconfirmed that information what could you tell us
00:54:31about it look that can be a subject that we might talk in a few days in a second version of this pod car
00:54:39right surely in some few days we could talk on it what i can say is that the defense national system
00:54:49that combines the popular militia and political force has guaranteed and guarantees the territorial
00:54:55integrity the peace of the country and the use and enjoyment of all of our territories and our people
00:55:04are safe and in peace i can that is all i can say it is also said that you had a conversation with the
00:55:12president trump right and lately it has been said that there was a second conversation can you confirm
00:55:20if this second conversation happened with president trump there was seen some speculations on a second
00:55:27conversation we have had ramadan one single conversation he called me on friday november the 21st from the
00:55:36white house and i was in the palace of mira flores we talked for 10 minutes and it was a conversation as
00:55:44i said respectful very respectful what did president trump tell you well the first thing that he said was mr
00:55:55president maduro and i said mr president donald trump and i believed that it was even amicable that
00:56:04conversation but from there the evolutions past conversation or after the conversations have not
00:56:13been agreeable let's hope and i give everything to god god almighty creator of the heaven and earth especially
00:56:23in a day like today december 31st with a wonderful sky majestic with that color while the afternoon is
00:56:32falling in these peaceful and beautiful caracas i deliver everything to god god knows what it does
00:56:39we act with ethic moral and with patriotism and love to our homeland for 2026 which is the year
00:56:49that i have called the year of the admirable challenge for us to overcome the perturbations
00:56:59the problems and be able to continue consolidating a country like venezuela for it to be a country in
00:57:05peace and to the people of the u.s i say what i have been saying here venezuela has a brother people
00:57:13to the people of the u.s even i say here you have a friend government i know the u.s very well i have
00:57:23driven through new york boston baltimore philadelphia new jersey queens manhattan
00:57:34washington i have driven a lot and i told to the president of the u.s that i know
00:57:39very well the constitutional avenue that is beautiful the pennsylvania avenue where the statue
00:57:47and home out of bolivar is the monument to lincoln which is a beauty and i have driven very much there
00:57:58and the people of the u.s must know that here they have a friend people that is friendly peaceful and
00:58:04also have a government that is friendly they must know it and that our slogan is very clear solita
00:58:10this is a gift i have here for ramonin excellent our slogan is very clear not war yes peace for you
00:58:20to take you to your family ramen thank you very much president great what do you have here we're
00:58:25already reaching the monolith last question president precisely on this we have seen you these last few
00:58:31weeks in these circumstances of pressure we have seen you very active in public and very loved by me
00:58:42popular masses and we're seeing at this moment and it's being seen by those who are watching you're not
00:58:49in a bunker you're not like protecting yourself from this threat you are surrounded by people and some of
00:59:00your interventions have been around the world precisely this slogan no war yes peace in it several
00:59:08songs that have been made i believe that social media have expressed a great sympathy towards you
00:59:16and i want us to end with a reflection a personal one how do you live personally psychologically
00:59:23spiritually you were talking on your condition of believer in the situation in which we're talking
00:59:31already of 28 weeks over five months of pressure and threat of a military threat by the first military
00:59:40power of the world i have a bunker that cannot be penetrated which is god almighty and i gave to him
00:59:49venezuela toward lord jesus christ and he is the king of kings the king here of our homeland i give myself
00:59:57to him every day and i give our homeland always not now always and also the people is our biggest shield
01:00:04our biggest inspiration our biggest energy because because of that people we have received everything
01:00:10that we are and because of that people we give everything that we are i simply it's not me
01:00:18i represent a project a historical project that brings 500 years of fight and i could say i am
01:00:26i am bolivar i am samora i am chavez because i am the people and letting oneself be hugged by the people
01:00:34hug the people and giving the power to the people is the reason to be at the essence of our historical
01:00:39project and through that path we will always be okay always in any circumstance our absolute decision
01:00:49is to be loyal to the oath of carrying our homeland to greatness but for venezuela to be big
01:00:58we do not need to harm anyone right the same way the us wants to be big again well they can be big
01:01:06through effort through the work through the peaceful vocation and not through threats nor through war
01:01:14stop no more more simple their convictions we are moved by convictions commitments oaths and a divine
01:01:23strength sacred that is lost from sight because god is with us and as our people say if god is with us
01:01:32who is against us so victory in any circumstance will always belong to us look i invite you if you
01:01:41accompany me for you to see the force that inspires us and see for you to see how we an entire people
01:01:48is what you're going to see look i put the mic here a good
01:01:54right right region let me borrow your cap help me there freddy alfred nasseret please
01:02:04we're coming down thing correct
01:02:10what do you think
01:02:10very good look reverend this is it's beautiful expression of the homeland the monument to the giant
01:02:26giants bolivar always bolivar sucre urdareta pies parillo here we have albert briont arismendi jose felix rivas
01:02:40francisco miranda who started everything
01:02:44manuel pia the great general bermudez
01:02:50and this year 2025 celia
01:02:55we were here on the day of women and
01:02:59and we also revealed because it was still missing there were just men
01:03:09but the independence was done on horse with men and women and as we had
01:03:15this wonder with bolivar we also had the wonder of having this female heroes great female heroes
01:03:28wonderful female heroes
01:03:30as wonderful as the light of that moon that is there
01:03:39and here us in this monument
01:03:42this is marcos perejimo as well this one was made by us here you can see a wonderful thing
01:03:55marta cumbalet and afro venezuelan women great leader independent leader
01:04:03anna maria campos who leaded the naval battle
01:04:07of the lake of the lake of maracaibo in the state of zulia our chief apaguana a chief
01:04:16that was filled with strength and with mystery
01:04:18bartoli nazista the great leader of high peru of bolivia was of juana ramirez
01:04:26a great leader of the east of the country of the independence cecilia bujica also
01:04:31here we have eulalia buros who was involved in barcelona josefa cameo as well
01:04:42and our great general manuela science josefa sanchez luisa caceres d'arizmende
01:04:49josefa juaquina the starter of the independence of all america luisa caceres d'arizmende gigantic hero
01:04:57this is the strength you see all of us are happy new year president happy year this is our force you
01:05:09see that is why the tranquility the serenity and the confidence that we are defending the just the
01:05:16most just cause it has ever been defended and that victory and peace belongs to us
01:05:21thank you president happy new year happy new year president cilia happy new year to the bolivarian
01:05:31people thank you very much till next year first broadcast of history thank you
01:05:45that was the exclusive interview with venezolan president nicolas maduro by journalist ignacio
01:05:51ramonet at the very beginning of a new year as they have done since 2017 among the key topics
01:05:58the president highlighted for example the significance of venezuela's economic growth
01:06:02in this political and geopolitical context the key of diversifying the country's economy and also
01:06:08building a model of participative democracy based in the communes all while also reiterating
01:06:14venezuela's call for dialogue peace and defense of sovereignty as usual we will continue updating
01:06:20you on these and other topics so stay tuned with telesuri english and from us we hope you have a happy new year
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