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Love & Marriage- Huntsville (2019) Season 10 Episode 14 - Nell in a Handbasket
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00:00Destiny and Kimmy, because we all know one another.
00:02I think Destiny is everybody's friend.
00:04She's everybody's friend.
00:07Friend to everybody's is a friend to nobody's.
00:10The wife felt like all y'all ganged up on her.
00:13Was Destiny a part of that, too?
00:14Yeah.
00:15Did she really say she felt ganged up on?
00:17Yeah.
00:18It's a family. Everybody's tired.
00:20It ain't just by one person, it's by all of us.
00:22Well, one person is doing a mother f***ing lot.
00:25One person here is doing a mother f***ing lot.
00:28And that happened to be me.
00:30We keep it moving
00:32All day, all night
00:35Yeah
00:36Ain't no stopping us
00:38Drop that
00:39We keep it moving
00:40You know, you know
00:43We keep it moving
00:46All day, all night
00:51Yeah
00:52Yeah
00:54All day, all night
00:56Yeah
00:57Ain't no stopping us
00:59Yeah
01:00Yeah
01:00Yeah
01:01Yeah
01:02I'm coming up, babe.
01:23Don't get upset, because I done made myself a mimosa.
01:27I'm spilling on your carpet.
01:28Oh, no, don't on my carpet now.
01:30Sorry, I forgot to grab a napkin.
01:32Turn the TV off.
01:34Let you turn it off, because I was going to turn it off for you.
01:37Why are you going to come up here and turn my TV off?
01:39Because I need to talk to you.
01:40On what, about the other night?
01:41The family dinner, yeah, you already know.
01:43It was a lot.
01:44If you ask for these dinners, and then I'm the one,
01:50get upset, or they make me upset, take me to another level,
01:54and you just, you sit there, and you like.
01:58I'm like, what?
01:59I mean, I've been doing this all my life.
02:01Exactly.
02:01Do nothing.
02:02I'm not a comfort, what'd you say?
02:05Nothing.
02:05When it comes to them, you don't.
02:07You just sit there.
02:08I'm listening.
02:09You got to hear what's going on to figure out
02:12how to possibly have a solution to it.
02:14What do you want me to do?
02:15Just get up and smack the hell out of one of them, or something?
02:17That'll work for me.
02:18Me getting up and slapping somebody is not going to help anything.
02:22I understand how you feel, but someone has to make sure there's a clean, level head in all these situations.
02:32My wife, she can be very quick tempered.
02:35Just through experience, I've learned that, you know, when you react so quickly, you can react out of turn.
02:43So I've learned to sit back and wait because, you know, if I jump when she jumps, then that's like adding fuel to the fire.
02:51We can make things worse when they really don't have to be.
02:53When I did get mad, and I went off, and I got so emotional until I cried, and it hurt me so bad, you didn't say nothing.
03:08Okay, well.
03:10I think that could have been a perfect opportunity for you to say something to them.
03:14Okay.
03:16If that's how you feel, I understand, and I apologize.
03:20I would never put you in that position again.
03:23If you felt that was wrong, I apologize.
03:26I felt it was dead-ass wrong.
03:28Okay.
03:29Again.
03:30I didn't like it.
03:31I'll make sure I have something to say if it happens again.
03:34All right.
03:36I just have to wait and see with this family how things go.
03:41I don't know.
03:42It's where we stand.
03:50Hey, Kimberly.
03:52Oh, hey, Kimberly.
03:53It's so beautiful.
03:57It's beautiful.
03:58I bet it is.
04:12I bet it is.
04:15So we all get the call from Destiny.
04:17It's time to meet up.
04:19Usually it's a hoot.
04:20Good food, good fun.
04:22So let's see what's on the books for today.
04:24Would you like something to drink?
04:25Water?
04:26I'll just get some water.
04:27Okay.
04:28Why are you watering it up?
04:29Just need some.
04:30Just need some.
04:31Just need some.
04:32Just had, you had a little wild night or something?
04:34It's a chill day for her.
04:36You and Maurice had a little wild night?
04:38No, man, not at all.
04:40Not at all.
04:41We've been just working, working, working.
04:43We've been just kind of chilling.
04:46Yep.
04:46I need a wild night.
04:47That's what everybody been doing.
04:48Everybody's like, you just been working, working.
04:50You need a wild night?
04:51Yeah.
04:52We're getting to the end of the road.
04:53We're getting ready for these boys to graduate and get up out of here.
04:57Aw.
04:58Bittersweet.
05:00Mine is going to kindergarten.
05:02Dang, you just been starving, baby.
05:05So what's up?
05:05What you been up to?
05:06You know, working.
05:07You know, I had a business lunch.
05:11I had a business lunch with Martell and Chris.
05:15And Chris had an interesting perspective on the festivities night.
05:19And he mentioned that Nell felt ganged up on.
05:22And Tisha.
05:23Hear me out.
05:24Hear me out.
05:24Okay.
05:25Do I believe it to be true that she was ganged up on?
05:27No.
05:28But can I see her perspective that it felt that way?
05:31I guess when people are calling you out on your BS, then you could actually feel like
05:35you're being ganged up on.
05:36However, Nell came into the conversation with bad energy.
05:41I just feel like Nell just wasn't there to hear whatever it was we had to say.
05:45Even if, at the end of the day, you felt as though four out of five people had things to say to you,
05:53it was because of what you were saying.
05:55And the energy you was given.
05:57Three out of five.
05:58One, two, three.
05:59What'd I say?
05:59No, you was four.
06:00When she was hollering at me, you told her she was hollering at me.
06:03I did.
06:03That's four out of five.
06:04That's not ganged up on.
06:05That's accountability.
06:06Right.
06:06People were trying to hold her accountable.
06:08Nell, she said she's ganged up on.
06:09And no, no, no.
06:10I'm not negating that that is the other side of the...
06:12You made my entire point.
06:14Can we talk about something else?
06:16Cheers to that.
06:18Just saying.
06:20I don't know what Destiny's doing with this Nell situation.
06:23She 100% was in the four out of the five saying,
06:29you're hollering, you're yelling, calm down, chill out.
06:32Her response is, but I wasn't ganging up.
06:35I was holding her accountable.
06:36Well, we all was holding her accountable.
06:38That's the whole point of the conversation.
06:40The part that I hate is that the Nell that I know and have seen,
06:44y'all haven't gotten a chance to meet.
06:46I met Nell when her mom was dying.
06:47And so, like, I saw her in a different light.
06:50Like, her praying for me and my marriage and, like, before I even got married.
06:55And her crying to me about not being able to make my wedding
06:58because her mom passed away a couple days before.
07:00So, like, I've seen another side of her.
07:01And since then, she's been kind of hard and, like, lashing out.
07:05And it's just kind of hard to be in this space because I'm, like,
07:08I give her more grace than most people, I guess.
07:11I try to, though, Destiny.
07:12Maybe she wants to show that side with you
07:14because, like, it is okay for Nell to be cool with you
07:17and whoever else and not be cool with me.
07:19I'm okay with that.
07:21I just don't want that energy because this group, like,
07:26both of y'all husbands do business with Chris.
07:27Like, we're bound to be around each other.
07:29So Nell's going to be around.
07:31I'm having a girls' trip and we're going to a winery
07:34and all of the girls are invited.
07:37All of the girls?
07:37We're going to all be there.
07:39See what I'm saying?
07:40You said that very well when she said all the girls.
07:42Yeah, because I really don't want to be around Nell.
07:44I'm really not here for a girls' trip with Nell and the ladies
07:50because hearing what Nell said to Destiny about me and, you know, my husband
07:55and about this stupid interview that Martell did.
07:58I didn't tell you this, and I should have, but I forgot.
08:01But when I met with her, she was like,
08:03she need not worry about my husband.
08:04She needs to worry about they throw up on that video or that tape.
08:06Babe, I ain't never got to worry about another woman, ever.
08:08For her to turn around and use that and talk about me and use it against me,
08:13I think that's the Nell in the Nell coffin for me.
08:16If you're having a trip and you want me to be around her, okay, whatever, fine.
08:21I just want to be very clear.
08:23I don't like her.
08:24I don't like how she operates.
08:26I don't like how she moves.
08:27And I just don't like that type of person.
08:30I know Nell and Tisha are beefing,
08:32but Tisha has said way too many times that she could be in a room with someone
08:37that she doesn't get along with and still be an adult and be cordial.
08:40So I'm inviting the ladies to the winery
08:41because I really think that the ladies need to come together
08:44on a level where there's no husbands, there's no kids, there's no business.
08:49So let's have a good time.
08:51Speaking of my event, I have baskets.
08:53The baskets!
08:55What's this?
08:55We having a picnic?
08:56No, we're not having a picnic.
08:58So I went on a date.
08:59Who did you go on a date with?
09:01Will.
09:02Brought some stuff to hopefully let you know a little bit more about who I am.
09:07So googly eyes just got kicked to the curb just like that?
09:10No, no, no.
09:11Nobody's kicked to the curb.
09:13She's been saying Will a lot lately.
09:15I have not.
09:17You've only seen Will at flexivities and that.
09:19So you went on a date with Will, huh?
09:22What happened to googly eyes?
09:23Never mind, because it's not my business.
09:25I see.
09:26I get it.
09:26It's not my business.
09:28You do you, boo-boo.
09:32Will?
09:33Is that the only person you googly eyes?
09:35Back to the basket.
09:36So in the basket, what I would like for you ladies to do is find small items from your
09:41home.
09:41You don't have to go out and get things that are sentimental and important to you.
09:45Put them in the basket and we're going to talk about it to like get to know each other
09:50a little bit more.
09:50It's like a show and tell.
09:51Are you saying you want us to get to know one another with the ladies?
09:55There's depth to all of us.
09:57There's parts of us that all of us don't know.
09:58I think we know each other well, but then there's Trish, there's Nell.
10:03Although I'm excited to learn something about the ladies, I'm done with Nell.
10:07Like, I'm done with that relationship.
10:10Bye.
10:12And we're going to have a good time.
10:13Don't forget your basket.
10:14Okay, Destiny, I'm about to go tell you.
10:15I got to go get my kids from school.
10:17But I need for you to stay because you got to get a tab.
10:19Uh-oh.
10:19How the hell I get a tab at your restaurant?
10:22That's your party.
10:23You know what?
10:24Make sure she pay for all of us.
10:25Okay, bye, Destiny.
10:26Love you.
10:27Bye.
10:27I'm so sick of them.
10:28You got to put that on Marceau's tab.
10:33Coming up on Love and Marriage Huntsville.
10:36Chris said that you felt like you were being ganged up on.
10:40I did.
10:41By everybody.
10:42I'm not trying to play victim.
10:43I just really feel like I was being ganged up on.
10:48Now we're like clean slate moving forward today.
10:51Yes.
10:52Does she feel like she owes me an apology?
10:54Who?
10:55Lurnell.
10:56I'm keeping the name out of my mouth.
10:58My family dinner, to me, it wasn't the best for me.
11:24But today is a new day.
11:26I'm going to meet up with Destiny.
11:27We're going to have some girl time.
11:28We're going to make some beautiful floor arrangements.
11:31And hopefully making these floor arrangements bring me the peace and calm that I need.
11:36Well, hello.
11:37Hi.
11:38I'm bringing Nell to Albert's Flowers at Black-owned local flower shop because I know this is what
11:43she loves.
11:43She loves flowers.
11:44She loves arrangements.
11:46I'm hoping that being here will get her calm, relaxed, and in her element so that she can
11:53have a real conversation.
11:54The last time I saw her was at Fletch-tivity, so it was a little intense.
12:00Yeah, I'm loving this.
12:02Oh, that's beautiful.
12:03That really is pretty.
12:05You came in here showing out.
12:06Does anybody need you to come in here showing out?
12:08What is going on with mine?
12:10What does it look like?
12:12It's different.
12:14Is that your answer?
12:15There's nothing wrong with yours.
12:18I'm sure Chris told you we had a meeting about one of Martell's properties and being dual
12:24agents on it, and then it came up about Fletch-tivities that, well, Chris said that you felt like
12:33you were being ganged up on.
12:36I did.
12:37By everybody?
12:39Yes.
12:40What did y'all think y'all doing here?
12:42Gang up on me?
12:44Who?
12:45I didn't say you.
12:46Oh, okay.
12:46I didn't say you.
12:47I'm strictly talking about 1.0 and 2.0.
12:51With you, I said I'm not talking to you.
12:54I was really talking to Leticia and Kimmy, but I feel like you just kind of jumped at
13:00like, well, wait, I haven't done nothing, but you were so quick.
13:04To say that I wasn't a part of it.
13:05Right.
13:06Why won't I be quick on it?
13:07But it was the way you did it to me, and that's when Leticia was like, oh, my God, oh,
13:12my God, the victim, and I'm like, I'm not trying to play victim.
13:15I just really feel like I was being ganged up on.
13:19I have a problem sometimes communicating, especially when I have so much going on.
13:25I know, I know.
13:26And now you got these grandbabies.
13:27My kids, right, you know, my niece, my marriage, it's a lot.
13:31You know, my business, I deal with other people's kids.
13:34So by the time I get to this group of ladies, I'm tired.
13:39I just want peace, really.
13:41Just don't poke me.
13:42I have so much going on in my own personal life right now that this mess that Leticia
13:48Scott got going on with her and me, you know, I don't even have time for it right now.
13:54It's so much miscommunication in this group.
13:56And then when we get to the acknowledgement of miscommunication, it still goes nowhere.
14:02Like, I can acknowledge the fact that it could have been perceived as you being ganged
14:06up on.
14:06Now feeling ganged up on, I can kind of see that.
14:09Do I really think it was intentional?
14:10No, but I can see how it felt that way.
14:13So you're good enough to go on a trip with all of the ladies?
14:17Hey, I'm good.
14:21So I'm taking all the ladies on the trip.
14:23Like, I know how to conduct myself.
14:26I'm taking all the ladies on a trip.
14:27We're going to a winery and we're going to have an amazing time.
14:33And I have, I went on a date recently.
14:36Don't be laughing.
14:37What you giggling for?
14:38Who'd you go out with this time?
14:40Well, I went on a date with Will.
14:43And Will brought a basket, which I thought was so cute.
14:47And in the basket, he put personalized items to, like, tell me more about himself.
14:51So I stole his idea.
14:53I got all the ladies' baskets.
14:54I want everybody to put personalized little mini items.
14:57Tell about yourself to the group.
14:59It's kind of like a show-and-tell.
15:02Well, this is your basket.
15:04Don't be shady.
15:05You said you're going on a trip.
15:07I might be sick that day.
15:08You ain't sick.
15:09I ain't feeling good.
15:10All of a sudden, I'm feeling good.
15:11Listen, I'm being serious.
15:12I'm being real serious right now.
15:13This is your basket.
15:15And you are the only person that has already gotten a gift from me inside of the basket.
15:20This is a little Bible.
15:21You want to know why I got you that gift?
15:23It's because of how special you were to me as I was going through being engaged, married, divorced.
15:31You always prayed for me.
15:32You always showed up as a very prophetic woman.
15:36And I know the power inside of you.
15:39I've seen it.
15:41And the ladies have not.
15:43I know.
15:44And I know they play and they poke about you being a life coach and being a mentor.
15:52But you have been that for me.
15:53So it's hard for me seeing y'all have y'all battles when I know your heart.
15:59Because I know you.
16:01And I've seen you.
16:02I've seen you in all your power.
16:04But I haven't seen you since your mom died.
16:07It's hardened you.
16:09It's put a shell around you.
16:11And I want everybody to be able to see a woman that I love and I know.
16:18She's still there.
16:21She's not available to some people.
16:23I can see what I'm being played with.
16:27But she's still there.
16:29I know what I have with you is real.
16:35I'm just not there with everybody else, Desi.
16:38Right?
16:39I haven't been through nothing with them as I have with you.
16:45I do not let a lot of people get close to me.
16:48That's just who I am as a person.
16:50I've always been that way.
16:51I do not let everyone know how I feel or what I'm dealing with or what I'm going through unless you have that special place or friendship within me.
17:04Even with us, we've had some rough patches.
17:08And I want my nail back.
17:09Coming up on Love and Marriage Huntsville.
17:21Oh, you didn't ask her?
17:22She felt like she all made an apology?
17:24I didn't ask you.
17:24I didn't ask you.
17:25I didn't do anything.
17:26Why y'all keep pointing the finger at me?
17:27I didn't ask her.
17:28It is not me.
17:29I didn't ask you.
17:30Don't be in the middle of it.
17:31I'm not in the middle of it.
17:32Y'all are going to be in the middle.
17:33I was like, I'm not putting you in the middle.
17:34You put yourself in the middle.
17:35You didn't know.
17:35I did it.
17:55Hey, chick.
17:56Y'all ready?
17:57Y'all ready?
17:58As ready as we going to be.
17:59What's up?
18:00What's up?
18:01Considering the tension between Tisha and Nell,
18:05I think it's best for us to ride in separate cars
18:08so everybody can have their space and their peace.
18:11And I think the winery is the best place to bring us together
18:13because wine always helps.
18:16And there are the other ladies.
18:19Oh, OK.
18:20Yeah.
18:21So we ready to go?
18:22When I first get into the car, the energy is like,
18:25it's not bad, but it does feel like a dropped Miss Daisy moment.
18:28Not that she's like, oh, Miss Daisy.
18:31It just feels like a dropped Miss Daisy moment.
18:34So Destiny, how is this going to go?
18:36What do we got to look forward to?
18:37I need an itinerary.
18:39Hour by hour.
18:40Have you ever been to a winery before?
18:42Yes, I have.
18:43Have you, Kimmy?
18:43Of course not.
18:44She don't like wine.
18:45Hey, hey, hey.
18:47I'm growing up.
18:48I'm so happy.
18:49It's big girl stuff.
18:50My chimneys was so fun, but I was just like...
18:52It was a lot going on.
18:54I was trying to stay peaceful.
18:56Y'all was not trying to stay peaceful.
18:58Hey, I was on the inside minding my own business.
19:02I was now.
19:04Y'all don't see coming to a mutual understanding in the near future.
19:10I don't know.
19:10I mean, I don't have...
19:11I really don't have a problem with Letitia.
19:14Is everybody else very receptive?
19:16It came out well and received well,
19:18and everybody's going to have a really good time?
19:20Absolutely.
19:21That's great.
19:22I had a conversation with Nell about
19:23just coming in and having fun.
19:26That's what this trip is about.
19:28It's like getting to know people a little bit deeper.
19:31So we don't have to have these, like, blow-up moments.
19:33So now we're, like, clean slate moving forward today.
19:36Yes.
19:37I feel like she owes me an apology.
19:39Who?
19:40The one you just told us you had a conversation with that.
19:42Who's that?
19:42You know who.
19:44Lernell.
19:45I'm keeping the name on my mouth.
19:47I'll say it.
19:49I mean, I don't know.
19:49How did the couple...
19:50I didn't ask her any of those questions.
19:52I didn't ask you.
19:53So you didn't ask her?
19:54She felt like she owe me an apology?
19:55I didn't ask you.
19:56I didn't ask you.
19:56I didn't do anything.
19:58Why y'all keep pointing the finger at me?
19:59I didn't ask her.
20:00It is not me.
20:00I didn't ask you.
20:01My God.
20:03Y'all got my head hurt,
20:04and we ain't even got to this trip yet.
20:05Your head shouldn't hurt.
20:06It is.
20:07Don't be in the middle of it.
20:08I'm not in the middle of it.
20:09Y'all come on to be in the middle.
20:10I'm not putting you in the middle.
20:12You put yourself in the middle.
20:13No, I did it.
20:13The sheer fact of the matter is
20:15we wouldn't be in this situation
20:17if Destiny didn't tell Tisha.
20:19Well, now, see?
20:20The question was, did you ask Tisha?
20:21You feel like an apology should have happened?
20:23That's what we're talking about
20:24the conversation you had with her.
20:25So I'm just asking you
20:26Yes, and I said already
20:27that she's taking accountability
20:28and she's trying to be in a good place
20:30and have a good time.
20:31And you said the same thing,
20:32but then you're like,
20:32well, she need to say this in my face.
20:33Which one is it?
20:36You know what?
20:36I'm done with talking about her.
20:38Okay.
20:38I'm not gonna let Tisha spoil this trip.
20:40I just don't know
20:41where this energy be coming from.
20:43You know what?
20:44I think we should pull over
20:45and I'm gonna go check on them.
20:46What do you mean, pull over?
20:47No.
20:48No.
20:49The answer's no.
20:51Okay, perfect.
20:56Hello.
20:57Hi.
20:57Hi.
20:58We're gonna swap out, you know.
21:00Is this wife swaps or something with this?
21:01Yes, let's wife swap it.
21:03Wait.
21:03Not a wife.
21:04Well, you are still a wife.
21:06Never mind.
21:06Wife swap.
21:07Bitch, don't play me.
21:08Wife swap.
21:09I am not a wife.
21:11You don't need it.
21:12Trisha, you coming over here?
21:13Yes.
21:13Yay!
21:14Now we having a fun time.
21:17Uh-oh.
21:17Whatever.
21:18What the hell?
21:19Bitches.
21:20This makes me sick of their asses
21:21that it got on my nerves.
21:23Bye.
21:24Hi, Trisha.
21:25I haven't seen you in forever.
21:26I know.
21:28Why did she switch out?
21:29What did she tell you?
21:29She just said, we're finna switch.
21:32I think she got tired of us.
21:34What'd I miss?
21:35We be holding Destiny accountable.
21:36That's all.
21:37Yeah.
21:38Holding Destiny accountable for her conversations.
21:40Because, you know, she be in the middle.
21:42She be in the middle of Nell and Tisha and those back and forth.
21:46Um, how did your ride with Trish go?
21:50It was lovely.
21:52I want to make sure that people have a good time, enjoy this winery, get to know each other
21:57a little bit better because I think that there's a lot of surface relationships and people don't
22:01know the depths of each other and if it's to go alone and get alone when we're in this space,
22:06I get it.
22:07If it's that, that's what it is.
22:09But as long as we getting along.
22:10What's going on with you and the hubby boyfriend to be?
22:14Hubby to be?
22:16What's the day we're going to say?
22:17I'm glad that that's still the title.
22:19That works for me.
22:20It is.
22:20Now, it was a little touch and go.
22:23I ain't going to lie to you because we both was like, yeah, nah.
22:27Uh, I think the chaos that came back into the picture just...
22:32And that's gone, so...
22:35I know, right?
22:35So now the flowers are back.
22:37Yeah.
22:38So have we been on a date with Twan?
22:41I went to a, what you would call a business, like lunch, but it was real interesting because,
22:50you know, him and I both agree there's an attraction there.
22:53It's like forbidden fruit because of, even though Lance gave his blessing, but...
22:59Yeah.
22:59I'm going to tell you something.
23:01We shut the restaurant down.
23:04Like, didn't want to leave.
23:06Ooh.
23:07Yeah.
23:07I was not expecting that, and I don't think he was either.
23:11Ooh.
23:13Yeah.
23:15Scared the out of me.
23:17Um.
23:18Well, we're at the wandering game, baby.
23:20We got to talk about this later.
23:22Because that's, that's serious.
23:27Yeah.
23:29How you just going to leave us?
23:32Oh, what had happened was...
23:33Golly, boy.
23:36Welcome to Juberta Winery.
23:39We're going to do a tasting, sit down for lunch, and more wine.
23:42This is a six-portion flight.
23:45Okay.
23:45And these are basically our dry style wines.
23:48Now, the first one is the Riesling face, and we can try that, and tell me what you think
23:53of it.
23:54This is our Sand Mountain Blanc.
24:01Next one is a, it's a white blend, a little bit of Chardonnay.
24:05It is what we call white trash.
24:12Then we're going to move on to the rosé.
24:19At this very moment in time, everybody's here in good spirits, talking to each other,
24:24drinking wine, having a good day.
24:27Right here.
24:31Very cutesy.
24:33Pretty.
24:35So how was the ride?
24:37The ride was fine.
24:38It's pretty.
24:39Long.
24:40A whole long hour.
24:42How was your ride, Dustin?
24:43It was great.
24:43Very peaceful.
24:45Oh.
24:46Was it peaceful after you switched cars?
24:47Yep.
24:48After you switched cars.
24:49I think that was some shade.
24:51It was shade, and I'm taking it.
24:52But we need it, though, because it's not...
24:54She asked my question.
24:55How was the shade?
24:58Thanks for your honesty.
24:59I'm going to always be honest.
25:00Thank you for it.
25:01You're welcome, baby.
25:02Wait a minute!
25:04I need a shot.
25:05Can we start this over?
25:08Coming up on Love and Marriage Huntsville.
25:11I asked a question, then you get an answer.
25:13Then you answer the next question.
25:14I asked you a question.
25:15You got smart with me, so that's the energy that we're going to have.
25:17Who got smart with you?
25:17You did.
25:18I don't have a reason to get shade.
25:19I'm trying to have a good, amicable trip, and I don't understand the energy.
25:23Yeah, for no reason.
25:25How was your ride, Destiny?
25:27It was great.
25:27Very peaceful.
25:28Was it peaceful after you switched cars?
25:30Yep.
25:30I think that was some shade.
25:32It was shade, and I'm taking it.
25:34Thanks for your honesty.
25:34I'm going to be just in the car with us.
25:36What Destiny did in that moment on the car ride to the winery, you should never ask your
25:43friend to excuse someone being disrespectful to them, and that is hurtful for me, because
25:49I really do love Destiny, and I cherish our relationship, but I also have to protect me.
25:55I love me more.
25:57Can we start this over?
25:58Mm-hmm.
25:58So what was y'all talking about?
26:00You.
26:01What'd y'all say about me?
26:02What I knew?
26:03What I did?
26:03Because you got out the car.
26:05Well, I was just trying to split myself evenly between both parties.
26:09And thank you.
26:10That was very thoughtful.
26:11Very sweet.
26:11I'm so professional.
26:12Y'all talking about me just getting out of the car.
26:14That's it.
26:14What else did y'all talk about?
26:15Don't tell her what happened in our car.
26:17They're not sharing information what happened in their car.
26:19First of all, I asked a question, then you get an answer.
26:21Then you answer the next question.
26:23I asked you a question.
26:23You got smart with me, so that's the energy that we're going to have.
26:25Who got smart with you?
26:26You did.
26:27How did I get smart with you?
26:28You got to be like, what'd you say when I first asked him?
26:30You got to ask her what I said.
26:32Why you switched cars?
26:33What is his energy, Tisha?
26:34Because you gave me that energy.
26:35I did not.
26:36Yes, you did.
26:37I asked you to switch cars.
26:38What did I say?
26:38Then you said.
26:38She said it was peaceful.
26:39There's more peaceful.
26:40No.
26:40I said that was shade.
26:41You was like, absolutely.
26:42So I'm like, oh.
26:43I said you asked a direct question, and if the answer came off Shady, it was direct.
26:46I don't have a reason to give shade.
26:47I'm trying to have a good, amicable trip, and I don't understand the energy.
26:50Get the toll.
26:51The toll is like, yeah, for no reason.
26:54I'm surprised that Tisha is feeling a way about me saying that the ride in the other car
26:59with Nell was peaceful.
27:00I was doing my best to remain neutral because it wasn't really my fight.
27:05This is a time for the ladies to get to know each other on a different level, agree to disagree,
27:09give some grace, and just have a good time.
27:14That was everybody's ride.
27:15The ride was very peaceful.
27:16There you go.
27:17Y'all hear that?
27:18We just started over.
27:19We started off on the wrong foot, so let's get back.
27:21I just want to make sure we good.
27:23If you felt like I got smart with you, that was not my intent.
27:26I thought you were joking.
27:27To be honest, when you said, was it he smart?
27:28I'm like, yes.
27:30So that's how I perceived it.
27:32I mean, it's enough smoke over here.
27:34I don't need nothing from you.
27:34Well, they may not be in my feelings.
27:36We're good.
27:37Okay.
27:37I am determined to overlook Tisha's tantrums so that we can enjoy this outing.
27:45So everybody brought a basket.
27:47Y'all got my message about putting something sentimental or something to tell about yourself
27:50in the basket.
27:52So this is my basket.
27:54Can y'all see it?
27:56I have a picture of Law and I when he's a little baby.
28:01And this picture is very sentimental to me because before him, I had five miscarriages.
28:07So he means so much to me.
28:10This is from a very hard time in my life.
28:12When Law was two months old, he ended up in the hospital fighting for his life.
28:16And I remember just being by his bedside, waiting for him to come back to me.
28:23And I keep this little girl because it reminds me of his strength and him being a fighter, just
28:28like his mama.
28:28I always like to wear my family's weight on me.
28:34And me lifting weights, it's like lifting them up.
28:37And I brought a picture of us younger because, like, without my family, I don't know where
28:46I'd be right now.
28:48Obviously, I couldn't have a basket without Jalen.
28:51Jalen, um, dang, I ain't gonna cry.
28:56Jalen is, like, my everything.
28:59And then everybody knows my candle.
29:03Don't act like you don't.
29:05So I put my candle.
29:07I love my candle.
29:09And y'all helped me name my first scent, so I appreciate that.
29:13Aw, that's so sweet.
29:14That's my basket.
29:15At the end of the day, I am happy that I decided to come to the winery because we're
29:20around each other a lot, the ladies in this group.
29:23And it's great that we get a chance to learn more about each other.
29:27Who wants to go next?
29:29Okay.
29:30So actually, uh, with my basket, I didn't have anything in it.
29:39I really couldn't think what to put in it.
29:44I really didn't want to put anything in it.
29:50Coming up on Love and Marriage Huntsville.
29:53You've been getting in my face.
29:54You've been getting in my husband's face.
29:56Wow, I've been doing this.
29:57You've been getting in my face at my birthday party last year.
30:00So I'm back to that.
30:01We got in my husband's face at Trish's birthday party.
30:04It seems like Nell wants to have an issue with me.
30:06And if she want to have an issue...
30:07That's not true.
30:13Actually, uh, with my basket, I didn't have anything in it.
30:20I really couldn't think what to put in it.
30:22My thoughts of Nell not putting anything in her basket, it was a little disappointing.
30:29I do wish that Nell would have put in a little bit more effort, um, especially with the ladies seemingly open to get to know her.
30:37Can I ask a question?
30:38Sure.
30:38Why did you not want to put anything in your basket?
30:42It was nothing that I felt like I needed to share or wanted to share.
30:47In this group, we're talking about being transparent.
30:49So we're trying to learn more about each other.
30:52This basket sharing moment is important for us to, you know, just learn something about each other that we don't already know.
30:59But at the end of the day, Nell is going to do what she's going to do.
31:03So was it because you didn't want to share?
31:05I couldn't think of anything I wanted to share in that moment.
31:09I think I've been very transparent.
31:12But in this group, transparency is used more as revenge.
31:19Bait.
31:20Calculation.
31:21They pick and choose what they want to share, and I can do the same.
31:24And that's what I've chosen to do moving forward.
31:26Okay, so this is my basket here, and I have a couple of things in it.
31:37I have a golden egg because I have a heart of gold.
31:42That's my weakness and my strength.
31:44Friends.
31:45This is friends because I value my relationship with my friends.
31:51Most of my girlfriends are pretty much like my family because, of course, I don't have sisters.
31:56I'm the only girl.
31:57I have two younger brothers.
31:58And so my friendship is very, very, very important.
32:01If I allow you in my space, I love you and I care for you.
32:05That's why when my friends turn on me and hurt me, it hurts really, really bad because I love so hard.
32:14So, um, last but not least, after friendship, snake, because once you bite me one time, it's a wrap for me.
32:25Tisha!
32:26You can always count on that chick for a little shade.
32:31Every single time, her.
32:34Because I love so hard, so I can't let you get to me again.
32:37Tisha brings out the prop snake, and it's obviously aimed for me.
32:42This is typical behavior for Tisha.
32:45Throw the rock high in her hand, hit below the belt.
32:49That's what she does.
32:50Tisha came on this trip with the chip on her shoulder and the snake in her basket.
32:57It's like, how does that make us move forward in any form or fashion?
33:01And then she's slithering at that nail in me, like, what are you doing, girl?
33:04What?
33:05Okay.
33:06Uh, uh.
33:07That's it for me.
33:09It was a very good basket and very interesting.
33:11Well, it was my basket, so, hey, I'm happy y'all like it.
33:14And it's kind of interesting good.
33:15Well, I've enjoyed all of y'all and the sharing of your basket and all the things that mean
33:21something to you and they're important to you.
33:22So, I hope it gives us a little bit more insight on each other on a deeper level.
33:27I feel like we could have gotten a little bit more from you, but I know we're taking
33:31steps.
33:32Like what?
33:33And that's actually why I asked the question, to be perfectly honest.
33:36Because I felt like there was a moment of when you said you weren't sure you wanted
33:40to put anything in there.
33:41Like, we want you to put stuff in there.
33:48We want to get to know you better.
33:49We want you to let us pass the outer layer.
33:53And that was exactly why I asked the question.
33:55That's fine.
33:56And I can receive that.
33:57I have a lot on my plate with my life right now.
34:08I have a huge family.
34:10I have adult children.
34:11I have a child care center.
34:12I have a lot going on.
34:14And it's like I'm not in the best space with the group.
34:20Even though you apologized to me, I know we had a moment.
34:24And then me and Leticia are still at it.
34:27But I'm not that close to you all to share some of my deepest things.
34:33That's the way I move.
34:35Like, for me to just share deep things, I have to be really close to you.
34:42Didn't she say something about us not being transparent?
34:45I mean, I'm just saying.
34:47Nell needs to learn how to communicate better.
34:49Her age, she needs to know how to properly communicate to us.
34:53Yes, Nell, I think you did great.
34:54You know, for a start, I mean, A for effort.
34:56However, I don't know if it's going to be possible for all of us to move forward in this group
35:00because everybody's not being transparent.
35:04It's not okay that when somebody in the group go back and talk about another person
35:08to other ladies in the group, you know, and it gets back to the person that you're talking about
35:13and you can't say it in their face.
35:15So that's my problem with these ladies in this group.
35:18Well, one particular lady in the group.
35:25So that's my problem with these ladies in this group.
35:28Well, one particular lady in the group.
35:30You know, I feel like if you got something to say about me and about my marriage,
35:34about my husband and what I should be paying attention to,
35:37don't go say it to Destiny, don't go say it to Trish, but, you know, say it directly to me.
35:42I've said all I need to say to you.
35:45What? And you haven't said nothing to me.
35:46We have talked about this.
35:47No, we haven't.
35:48When we tried to talk about it, your energy was extremely high and you didn't want to talk about it.
35:52If I said anything about you, it was before I sat down and talked to you at the coffee shop.
35:59Oh, so your conversation with Destiny was before that?
36:02Before the coffee shop?
36:04When you talked to Destiny about me and you told her that I need to watch the video of my husband
36:08and about keeping your name on my mind.
36:09I did say that.
36:10That was before we had our conversation at the coffee shop?
36:13Well, see, that's the thing.
36:15Whatever the timeline was, I will tell you this.
36:17I have said some about you.
36:20When I talked to you at the coffee shop, at that time I had not spoken to Destiny.
36:24After the coffee shop?
36:25Yes.
36:26I think both of them are hurt and offended at this point.
36:30And I don't think either of them are doing a very good job of squashing this.
36:34And so I think that there's something under there that they haven't been able to get past.
36:43And I don't think Tisha's interested.
36:45It seems like Nell wants to have an issue with me.
36:47And if she want to have an issue with me...
36:47That's not true.
36:48What I was trying to do at the game night was talk to you and see why you went to Trish
36:55and said that I wasn't being transparent and you told Destiny that I need to keep your
37:00name out of my mouth and you also told Destiny that I need to be concerned about the video
37:05of my husband.
37:06And that was not okay.
37:08And so my thing is that we would never be okay because I don't like how you move.
37:14I don't like the fact that we met and I broke down in front of you and I thought we had
37:20a moment, but yet and still you go back and on me to Destiny.
37:24That's not okay with me.
37:25And that's not something I expect from a woman of your age who said I'm a mentor or I am a
37:31life coach.
37:33If you had an issue with me, we said at the coffee place, come and talk to me.
37:37Don't go talk about me to Destiny.
37:39Don't go talk about me to Trish.
37:40Don't go talk about me to Kimmy.
37:41You can come directly to me and tell me what the problem is.
37:44I've never not stated where I stand with any and everything.
37:49If I said it once, I said it again.
37:50I don't have an issue with you.
37:51I haven't said anything about you.
37:53When I met with Destiny, my thing was once again, here we go, Letitia got her name in
38:00her mouth.
38:01Like, why does she keep talking about this thing with my son, my grandchild?
38:09Why, why, why, why, why we, why we keep here?
38:11Why we keep, why we keep talking about my issues with Nell?
38:15Like, I don't like her.
38:17Because she is the type of person that when you say, hey, this right here hurts, if you
38:21cut right here, it hurts.
38:22And they poke you right there.
38:24No, that's not, that's not true.
38:26And I don't like people like that.
38:27Tisha is telling a damn lie.
38:36For Tisha to say that I'm a cruel person, it shows how little she knows me.
38:42And it's not who I am.
38:44That is not what I stand for.
38:46That is not even my character.
38:47That is who she is.
38:49So she's deflecting on her own self.
38:52You've been getting in my face.
38:54You've been getting in my husband's face.
38:56Wow, I've been doing that.
38:57You got in my face at my birthday party last year.
39:00You got in my husband's face at Trish's birthday party this year.
39:04So do we move on?
39:05Do we talk about something?
39:06Well, even at Fleshtivity, you brought all these things back up.
39:09I did?
39:10We clearly can't move forward because even with me apologizing for certain things,
39:14there's still underlying surface things there.
39:19This trip has officially not gone as planned.
39:22Turned up, Tisha came to just fight with everybody.
39:25Yeah, this is not what I wanted.
39:28It's like you excused everything you did.
39:30I'm not excusing anything, babe.
39:31I took ownership of mine.
39:32Okay, and I took ownership of mine.
39:34Oh, have you?
39:35Yes, I have.
39:36I heard ownership of .
39:37You tell me what I didn't take ownership of.
39:38No, I don't care, babe.
39:39I don't neither, okay?
39:41Check.
39:46Next on Love and Marriage Huntsville.
39:47When I look at you dead in the eye and say, hey, Tisha, I'm doing the best I can.
39:52Just because you don't see it happening, there's a lot of stuff that you don't see.
39:55I would think that, heck, after 20 years of being together, I'd think that maybe once
40:01you could just understand that I'm the guy that kind of maybe you could listen to.
40:05I still think that you have some portions of yourself that haven't been vulnerable enough
40:12or open enough or accountable enough to the parts that you can do better.
40:17I'm doing this therapy because, first of all, nobody has all the answers.
40:23I don't need a bunch of cliche.
40:25I need stuff I can actually use on a regular basis, something that matters.
40:31I think it's easy for you to blame me.
40:35Do you know what the problem is with you and Letitia?
40:38You and Marceau.
40:40The problem with you and Letitia is me and Marceau?
40:43Yeah.
40:43She better leave me alone.
40:46Letitia?
40:47Yeah, before I come for her damn marriage on some that I do know for sure.
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