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Love & Marriage- Huntsville (2019) Season 10 Episode 14 - Nell in a Handbasket
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00:00And what's going on in her life, in her marriage,
00:02and that damn Martell went live.
00:05Your friend need to keep my family's business
00:08out her mouth.
00:12I think Nell got triggered because when I met with her,
00:15she said, Letitia Scott need to mind her business about what?
00:22Nell wants to have a problem with me.
00:24You know that's stirring the pot.
00:26Is it?
00:26Yes, for me.
00:28I mean, it's easy to have a good conversation with me,
00:30Destiny, and Kimmy, because we all know one another.
00:32I think Destiny is everybody's friend.
00:35She's everybody's friend.
00:37Friend to everybody's is a friend to nobody's.
00:41The wife felt like all y'all ganged up on her.
00:43Was Destiny a part of that, too?
00:44Yeah.
00:45Did she really say she felt ganged up on?
00:47Yeah.
00:48That's a family.
00:49Everybody tired.
00:50It ain't just by one person, it's by all of us.
00:52Well, one person is doing a .
00:55One person here is doing a , and that happened to be me.
01:01We keep it moving all day, all night.
01:05Yeah.
01:06Ain't no stopping us.
01:08Drop that.
01:09We ain't no stopping us.
01:10Drop that.
01:11You know.
01:12You know.
01:13We keep it moving all day, all day, all night.
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01:47I'm coming up, babe.
01:53Don't get upset because I done made myself a mimosa.
01:56I'm spilling on your carpet.
01:58Oh, no, don't on my carpet now.
02:00I'm sorry.
02:00I forgot to grab a napkin.
02:02Turn the TV off.
02:04I'm glad you turned it off because I was going to turn it off for you.
02:07Why are you going to come up here and turn my TV off?
02:09Because I need to talk to you.
02:11On what?
02:11About the other night?
02:12The family dinner.
02:12Yeah, you already know.
02:13It was a lot.
02:14If you ask for these dinners and then I'm the one, get upset, or they make me upset,
02:22take me to another level, and you just, you sit there and you like.
02:28I'm like what?
02:29I mean, I've been doing this all my life.
02:31Exactly.
02:31I'm not a comfort, I'm not a comfort, what'd you say?
02:35Nothing.
02:35When it comes to them, you don't.
02:37You just sit there.
02:38I'm listening.
02:39You got to hear what's going on to figure out how to possibly have a solution to it.
02:44What do you want me to do?
02:45Just get up and smack the hell out of one of them or something?
02:47That'll work for me.
02:48Me getting up and slapping somebody is not going to help anything.
02:52I understand how you feel, but someone has to make sure there's a clean, level head in
03:01all these situations.
03:02My wife, she can be very quick-tempered.
03:05Just through experience, I've learned that, you know, when you react so quickly, you can
03:11react out of turn.
03:13So I've learned to sit back and wait because, you know, if I jump when she jumps, then that's
03:19like adding fuel to the fire.
03:21We can make things worse when they really don't have to be.
03:24When I did get mad, and I went off, and I got so emotional until I cried, and it hurt
03:30me so bad, you didn't say nothing.
03:38Okay.
03:38Well.
03:40I think that could have been a perfect opportunity for you to say something to them.
03:44Okay.
03:46If that's how you feel, I understand.
03:49And I apologize.
03:51I would never put you in that position again.
03:54If you felt that was wrong, I apologize.
03:56It was dead-ass wrong.
03:59Okay.
04:00I didn't like it.
04:01I'll make sure I have something to say if it happens again.
04:06All right.
04:07I just have to wait and see with this family how things go.
04:12I don't know.
04:13It's where we stand.
04:14Hey, Kimberly.
04:38Oh, hey Kimberly.
04:40It's so great for me.
04:42I bet it is.
04:43So, we all get the call from Destiny.
04:47It's time to meet up.
04:49Usually, it's a hoot.
04:51Good food, good fun.
04:52So, let's see what's on the books for today.
04:54Would you like something to drink?
04:55Water?
04:56I'll just get some water.
04:57Okay.
04:58Why are you watering it up?
04:59Just need some.
05:00Just need some.
05:01Just need some.
05:02Just have you had a little wild night.
05:04It's a chill day for her.
05:06You and Maurice had a little wild night?
05:08No, man.
05:09Not at all.
05:10Not at all.
05:11We've been just working.
05:12Working, working, working.
05:13We've been just kind of chilling.
05:15Mm-hmm.
05:16Yep.
05:16I need a wild night.
05:17That's what everybody been doing.
05:18Everybody's like, you just been working, working.
05:20You need a wild night?
05:21Yeah.
05:22We getting to the end of the road.
05:23We getting ready for these boys to graduate and get up out of here.
05:27Aw.
05:28Bittersweet.
05:29Mine is going to kindergarten.
05:31Dang.
05:32Dang.
05:33You just been started, baby.
05:35So, what's up?
05:35What you been up to?
05:36You know, working.
05:38You know, I had a business lunch with Martel and Chris.
05:45And Chris had an interesting perspective on the festivities night.
05:48And he mentioned that Nell felt ganged up on and Tisha.
05:53Hear me out.
05:54Hear me out.
05:54Okay.
05:55Do I believe it to be true that she was ganged up on?
05:57No.
05:57But can I see her perspective that it felt that way?
06:01I guess when people are calling you out on your BS, then you could actually feel like
06:05you're being ganged up on.
06:06However, Nell came into the conversation with bad energy.
06:11I just feel like Nell just wasn't there to hear whatever it was we had to say.
06:15Even if, at the end of the day, you felt as though four out of five people had things
06:22to say to you, it was because of what you were saying.
06:25And the energy you was giving.
06:27Three out of five.
06:28One, two, three.
06:29What'd I say?
06:29No, you was four.
06:30When she was hollering at me, you told her she was hollering at me.
06:33I did.
06:33That's four out of five.
06:34That's not ganged up on.
06:35That's accountability.
06:36Right, people were trying to hold her accountable.
06:38Now she says she's ganged up on.
06:39And no, no, no.
06:40I'm not negating that that is the other side of the...
06:42You made my entire point.
06:44Can we talk about something else now?
06:46Cheers to that.
06:48Just saying.
06:50I don't know what Destiny's doing with this Nell situation.
06:53She 100% was in the four out of the five saying, you're hollering, you're yelling, calm
07:00down, chill out.
07:02Her response is, but I wasn't ganging up.
07:05I was holding her accountable.
07:06Well, we all was holding her accountable.
07:08That's the whole point of the conversation.
07:10The part that I hate is that the Nell that I know and have seen, y'all haven't gotten
07:15a chance to meet.
07:16I met Nell when her mom was dying.
07:18And so I saw her in a different light.
07:20Like her praying for me and my marriage and like before I even got married and her crying
07:26to me about not being able to make my wedding because her mom passed away a couple days before.
07:30So like I've seen another side of her.
07:31And since then, she's been kind of hard and like lashing out.
07:35And it's just kind of hard to be in this space because I'm like, I give her more grace than most people, I guess.
07:41I try to though, Destiny.
07:42Maybe she wants to show that side with you because like it is okay for Nell to be cool with you and whoever else and not be cool with me.
07:49I'm okay with that.
07:51I just don't want that energy because this group, like both of y'all husbands do business with Chris.
07:58Like we're bound to be around each other.
07:59So Nell's going to be around.
08:01I'm having a girls trip and we're going to a winery and all of the girls are invited.
08:07All of the girls?
08:07We're going to all be there.
08:09See what I'm saying?
08:10You said that very well when she said all the girls.
08:13Yeah, because I really don't want to be around Nell.
08:14I'm really not here for a girls trip with Nell and the ladies because hearing what Nell said to Destiny about me and, you know, my husband and about this stupid interview that Martell did.
08:28I didn't tell you this and I should have, but I forgot.
08:31But when I met with her, she was like, she need not worry about my husband.
08:34She need to worry about they throw up on that video or that tape.
08:36Babe, I ain't never got to worry about another woman, ever.
08:38For her to turn around and use that and talk about me and use it against me, I think that's the Nell in the Nell coffin for me.
08:46If you're having a trip and you want me to be around her, okay, whatever, fine.
08:51I just want to be very clear.
08:53I don't like her.
08:54I don't like how she operates.
08:56I don't like how she moves.
08:57And I just don't like that type of person.
08:59I know Nell and Tisha are beefing, but Tisha has said way too many times that she could be in a room with someone that she doesn't get along with and still be an adult and be cordial.
09:10So I'm inviting the ladies to the winery because I really think that the ladies need to come together on a level where there's no husbands, there's no kids, there's no business.
09:19So let's have a good time.
09:21Speaking of my event.
09:22Oh.
09:23I have baskets.
09:23The baskets.
09:25What's this?
09:25We having a picnic?
09:26No, we're not having a picnic.
09:27So I went on a date.
09:29Who did you go on a date with?
09:31Will.
09:32Brought some stuff to hopefully let you know a little bit more about who I am.
09:37So Googly Eyes just got kicked to the curb just like that?
09:40No.
09:41No.
09:41Nobody's kicked to the curb.
09:43She's been saying Will a lot lately.
09:45I have not.
09:47You've only seen Will's flexibilities and that.
09:49So you went on a date with Will, huh?
09:52What happened to Googly Eyes?
09:53Never mind.
09:54Because it's not my business.
09:55I see.
09:56I get it.
09:56It's not my business.
09:58You do you, boo-boo.
10:02Will?
10:03Is that the only person you Googling out?
10:05Back to the basket.
10:06So in the basket, what I would like for you ladies to do is find small items from your home.
10:11You don't have to go out and get things that are sentimental and important to you.
10:15Put them in the basket and we're going to talk about it to like get to know each other a little bit more.
10:20It's like a show and tell.
10:21Are you saying you want us to get to know one another with the ladies?
10:25There's depth to all of us.
10:27There's parts of us that all of us don't know.
10:29I think we know each other well.
10:31But then there's Trish, there's Nell.
10:33Although I'm excited to learn something about the ladies, I'm done with Nell.
10:37Like, I'm done with that relationship.
10:40Bye.
10:42And we're going to have a good time.
10:43Don't forget your basket.
10:44Okay, Destiny.
10:45I'm about to go.
10:45So I got to go get my kids from school.
10:47But I need for you to stay because you got to get a tab.
10:49Uh-oh.
10:49How the hell I get a tab at your restaurant?
10:52That's your party.
10:53You know what?
10:54Make sure she pay for all of us.
10:56Okay, bye, Destiny.
10:56Love you.
10:57Bye.
10:57I'm so sick of them.
10:59You got to put that on Marceau's tab.
11:01Oh.
11:03Coming up on Love and Marriage Huntsville.
11:06Chris said that you felt like you were being ganged up on.
11:10I did.
11:11By everybody?
11:12I'm not trying to play victim.
11:13I just really feel like I was being ganged up on.
11:18Now we're like clean slate moving forward today.
11:21Yes.
11:22Does she feel like she owes me in the policy?
11:24Who?
11:25Lurnail.
11:26I'm keeping the name out of my mouth.
11:27My family dinner, to me, it wasn't the best for me.
11:53But today is a new day.
11:56I'm going to meet up with Destiny.
11:57We're going to have some girl time.
11:59We're going to make some beautiful floor arrangements.
12:01And hopefully making these floor arrangements bring me the peace and calm that I need.
12:06Well, hello.
12:07Hi.
12:07I'm bringing Nell to Albert's Flowers at Black-owned local flower shop because I know this is what she loves.
12:13She loves flowers.
12:15She loves arrangements.
12:17I'm hoping that being here will get her calm, relaxed, and in her element so that she can have a real conversation.
12:24The last time I saw her was at Flesh-tivity, so it was a little intense.
12:30Yeah, I'm loving this.
12:32Oh, that's beautiful.
12:33That really is pretty.
12:35You came in here showing out.
12:36Did anybody need you to come in here showing out?
12:38What is going on with mine?
12:40What does it look like?
12:42It's different.
12:44Is that your answer?
12:45There's nothing wrong with yours.
12:48I'm sure Chris told you we had a meeting about one of Martell's properties and being dual agents on it.
12:56And then it came up about Flesh-tivities that, well, Chris said that you felt like you were being ganged up on.
13:06I did.
13:07By everybody?
13:08Yes.
13:10What did y'all think y'all doing here?
13:13Gang up on me?
13:14Who?
13:15I didn't say you.
13:16Oh, okay.
13:16I didn't say you.
13:17I'm strictly talking about 1.0 and 2.0.
13:21With you, I said I'm not talking to you.
13:24I was really talking to Latisha and Kimmy, but I feel like you just kind of jumped at, like, well, wait, I haven't done nothing, but you were so quick.
13:34She'll say that I wasn't a part of that.
13:35Right.
13:36Why won't I be quick on that?
13:37But it was the way you did it to me.
13:39And that's when the teacher's like, oh, my God, oh, my God, the victim.
13:43And I'm like, I'm not trying to play victim.
13:45I just really feel like I was being ganged up on.
13:49I have a problem sometimes communicating, especially when I have so much going on around my kids, like, you know, my niece, my marriage.
14:00It's a lot.
14:01I have so much going on in my own personal life right now that this mess that Latisha Scott got going on with her and me.
14:21You know, I don't even have time for it right now.
14:24It's so much miscommunication in this group.
14:26And then when we get to the acknowledgement of miscommunication, it still goes nowhere.
14:32Like, I can acknowledge the fact that it could have been perceived as you being ganged up on.
14:36Now feeling ganged up on, I can kind of see that.
14:39Do I really think it was intentional?
14:40No, but I can see how it felt that way.
14:43So you're good enough to go on a trip with all of the ladies?
14:47Hey, I'm good.
14:51So I'm taking all the ladies on the trip.
14:53Like, I know how to conduct myself.
14:56I'm taking all the ladies on a trip.
14:57We're going to a winery and we're going to have an amazing time.
15:03And I have, I went on a date recently.
15:06Don't be laughing.
15:07What you giggling for?
15:08Who'd you go out with this time?
15:10Well, I went on a date with Will.
15:13And Will brought a basket, which I thought was so cute.
15:17And in the basket, he put personalized items to, like, tell me more about himself.
15:21So I stole his idea.
15:23I got all the ladies' baskets.
15:24I want everybody to put personalized little mini items.
15:27Tell about yourself to the group.
15:29It's kind of like a show and tell.
15:32Well, this is your basket.
15:34Don't be shady.
15:35You said you're going on a trip.
15:37I might be sick today.
15:38You ain't sick.
15:39I ain't feeling good.
15:40All of a sudden, I just...
15:41Listen, I'm being serious.
15:42I'm being real serious right now.
15:44This is your basket.
15:45And you are the only person that has already gotten a gift from me inside of the basket.
15:50This is a little Bible.
15:51You want to know why I got you that gift?
15:53It's because of how special you were to me as I was going through being engaged, married, divorced.
16:00You always prayed for me.
16:02You always showed up as a very prophetic woman.
16:06And I know the power inside of you.
16:09I've seen it.
16:11And the ladies have not.
16:13I know.
16:13And I know they play and they poke about you being a life coach and being a mentor.
16:22But you have been that for me.
16:23So it's hard for me to see y'all, have y'all battles when I know your heart.
16:29Because I know you.
16:31And I've seen you.
16:32I've seen you in all your power.
16:34But I haven't seen you since your mom died.
16:37It's hardened you.
16:39It's put a shell around you.
16:41And I want everybody to be able to see the woman that I love and I know.
16:48She's still there.
16:51She's not available to some people.
16:53I can see what I'm being played with.
16:57But she's still there.
16:59I know what I have with you is real.
17:05I'm just not there with everybody else, Desi.
17:08Like, I haven't been through nothing with them as I have with you.
17:15I do not let a lot of people get close to me.
17:18That's just who I am as a person.
17:20I've always been that way.
17:21I do not let everyone know how I feel or what I'm dealing with or what I'm going through.
17:28Unless you have that special place or a friendship with a man.
17:33Even with us, we've had some rough patches.
17:38And I want my nail back.
17:45I love you too.
17:46Coming up on Love and Marriage Huntsville.
17:51Oh, you didn't ask her?
17:52She felt like she owed me an apology?
17:54I didn't ask you.
17:55I didn't do anything.
17:56Why y'all keep pointing the finger at me?
17:57I didn't ask her.
17:58And it's not me.
17:59I didn't ask you.
18:00Don't be in the middle of it.
18:01I'm not in the middle of it.
18:02Y'all can't be in the middle.
18:03I'm not putting you in the middle.
18:04You didn't know.
18:05I did it.
18:25Hey, chick.
18:27Y'all ready?
18:27Y'all ready?
18:28As ready as we gonna be.
18:29What's up?
18:30What's up?
18:32Considering the tension between Tisha and Nell, I think it's best for us to ride in separate
18:37cars so everybody can have their space and their peace.
18:41And I think the winery is the best place to bring us together because wine always helps.
18:46And there are the other ladies.
18:49Oh, okay.
18:50Yeah.
18:51So we ready to go?
18:52When I first get into the car, the energy is like, it's not bad, but it does feel like
18:57a drop of Miss Daisy moment.
18:59Not that she's like, oh, Miss Daisy.
19:01It just feels like a drop of Miss Daisy moment.
19:04So, Destiny, how is this gonna go?
19:06What we gotta look forward to?
19:07I need an itinerary.
19:09Hour by hour.
19:10Have you ever been to a winery before?
19:12Yes, I have.
19:13Have you, Kimmy?
19:13Of course not.
19:14She don't like wine.
19:15Hey, hey, hey.
19:17I'm growing up.
19:18I'm so happy.
19:19It's big girl stuff.
19:20My chippies was so fun, but I was just like...
19:23It was a lot going on.
19:24I was trying to stay peaceful.
19:26Y'all was not trying to stay peaceful.
19:28Hey, I was on the inside minding my own business.
19:32I was now.
19:34Y'all don't see coming to a mutual understanding in the near future.
19:40I don't know.
19:40I mean, I don't have...
19:41I really don't have a problem with Letitia.
19:44Is everybody else very receptive?
19:46It came out well and received well, and everybody's gonna have like a relationship.
19:50Have you had a good time?
19:50Absolutely.
19:51That's great.
19:52I had a conversation with Nell about just coming in and having fun.
19:56That's what this trip is about.
19:58It's like getting to know people a little bit deeper.
20:01So we don't have to have these like blow-up moments.
20:04So now we're like clean slate moving forward today.
20:06Yes.
20:07I feel like she owes me an apology.
20:09Who?
20:10The one you just told us you had a conversation with that.
20:12Who's that?
20:12You know who?
20:14Lernell.
20:15I'm keeping the name on my mouth.
20:17I'll say it.
20:19I mean, I don't know.
20:20How did the couple...
20:20I didn't ask her any of those questions.
20:22I didn't ask you.
20:23So you didn't ask her?
20:24She felt like she owe me an apology?
20:25I didn't ask you.
20:26Did you feel like I owe anybody an apology?
20:26I didn't do anything.
20:28Why y'all keep pointing the finger at me?
20:29I didn't ask her.
20:30It is not me.
20:31I didn't ask you.
20:32My God.
20:33Y'all got my head hurt, and we ain't even got to this trip yet.
20:35Yeah, it should hurt.
20:36It is.
20:37Don't be in the middle of it.
20:38I'm not in the middle of it.
20:39Y'all still gonna be in the middle.
20:40Like, I'm not putting you in the middle.
20:42You put yourself in the middle.
20:42You didn't know.
20:43I did it.
20:43The sheer fact of the matter is we wouldn't be in this situation if Destiny didn't tell
20:48what Tisha will now.
20:49See?
20:50The question was, did you ask Tisha?
20:51Did you feel like an apology should have happened?
20:53That's what we're talking about the conversation you had with her.
20:55So I'm just asking you to let the place that conversation.
20:56Yes, and I said already that she's taking accountability and she's trying to be in a good place and have a good time.
21:01And you said the same thing, but then you're like, well, she needs to say the in my face.
21:03Which one is it?
21:06You know what?
21:06I'm done with talking about her.
21:08Okay.
21:08I'm not gonna let Tisha spoil this trip.
21:10I just don't know where this energy be coming from.
21:13You know what?
21:14I think we should pull over and I'm gonna go check on that.
21:16What do you mean pull over?
21:17No.
21:19No.
21:19The answer's no.
21:21Okay, perfect.
21:22Oh.
21:26Hello.
21:27Hi.
21:27Hi.
21:28We're gonna swap out, you know.
21:30Is this wife swaps or something with this?
21:31Yes, let's wife swap it.
21:33Wait.
21:33Not a wife.
21:34Well, you are still a wife.
21:36Never mind.
21:36Wife swap.
21:37Bitch, don't play me.
21:38Wife swap.
21:38I am not a wife.
21:41You don't need...
21:42Trisha, you coming over here?
21:43Yes.
21:43Yes.
21:43Yay!
21:45Now we having a fun time.
21:47Uh-oh.
21:47Whatever.
21:48What the hell?
21:49Bitches.
21:50This place, I'm sick of their asses that it got on my nerves.
21:53Bye.
21:54Hi, Trisha.
21:55I haven't seen you in forever.
21:56I know.
21:57Why'd she switch out?
21:59What'd she tell you?
22:00She just said we're finna switch.
22:02I think she got tired of us.
22:04What'd I miss?
22:05We be holding Destiny accountable.
22:06That's all.
22:07Yeah.
22:08Holding Destiny accountable for her conversations.
22:10Because, you know, she be in the middle.
22:12She be in the middle of Nell and Tisha and those back and forth.
22:16Um, how did your ride with Trish go?
22:20It was lovely.
22:22I want to make sure that people have a good time, enjoy this winery, get to know each
22:27other a little bit better, because I think that there's a lot of surface relationships
22:30and people don't know the depths of each other.
22:32And if it's to go alone and get alone when we're in this space, I get it.
22:37If it's that, that's what it is.
22:39But as long as we getting alone.
22:40What's going on with you and the hubby boyfriend, Beyonce?
22:44Hubby 2B?
22:46What's good?
22:46What's the name?
22:47I'm glad that that's still the title.
22:49That works for me.
22:50Yeah, it is.
22:50Now, it was a little touch and go.
22:53I ain't gonna lie to you, because we both was like, yeah, nah.
22:58I think the chaos that came back into the picture just...
23:03And that's gone, so...
23:05I know, right?
23:05So now the flowers are back.
23:07Yeah.
23:07So have we been on a date with Twan?
23:11I went to a...
23:13What you would call a business lunch.
23:17But it was real interesting, because him and I both agree there's an attraction there.
23:24It's like Forbidden Fruit, because of...
23:27Even though Lance gave his blessing, but...
23:29Yeah.
23:29I'm gonna tell you something.
23:32We shut the restaurant down.
23:34Like, didn't want to leave.
23:35Oh, yeah.
23:37I was not expecting that, and I don't think he was either.
23:41Oh, yeah.
23:45Scared the out of me.
23:47But we're at the water, and you're angry, baby?
23:50We gotta talk about this later.
23:54Because that's serious.
23:55Yeah.
23:58Bad, bad girl.
23:59Do it, man.
24:00How you just gonna leave us?
24:02Oh, what happened was...
24:03Golly, boy.
24:06Welcome to Juberta Winery.
24:09We're gonna do a tasting, sit down for lunch, and more wine.
24:13This is a six-portion flight.
24:15Okay.
24:15And these are basically our dry-style wines.
24:18Now, the first one is the Riesling vase, and we can try that, and tell me what you think of it.
24:24This is our Sand Mountain Blanc.
24:31Next one is a...
24:33It's a white blend, a little bit of Chardonnay.
24:36It is what we call white trash.
24:37Then we're gonna move on to the rosé.
24:49At this very moment in time, everybody's here in good spirits, talking to each other, drinking wine, having a good day.
24:57Right here.
25:00Table.
25:01Oh, very cutesy.
25:03Aw, so pretty.
25:05So how was the ride?
25:07The ride was fine.
25:08It's pretty.
25:09Long.
25:10A whole long hour.
25:12How was your ride, Vester?
25:13It was great.
25:13Very peaceful.
25:15Oh.
25:16Was it peaceful after you switched cars?
25:17Yep.
25:18After you switched.
25:19I think that was some shade.
25:21It was shade, and I'm taking it.
25:23But we need it, though, because it's not my question.
25:26How was it shade?
25:28Thanks for your honesty.
25:30Thank you for it.
25:31You're welcome, baby.
25:32Wait a minute!
25:34I need a shot.
25:35Can we start this over?
25:37Coming up on Love and Marriage Huntsville.
25:41I ask a question, then you get an answer.
25:43Then you answer the next question.
25:44I asked you a question.
25:45You got smart with me, so that's the energy that we're going to have.
25:47Who got smart with you?
25:47You did.
25:48I don't have a reason to give shade.
25:49I'm trying to have a good, amicable trip, and I don't understand the energy.
25:52That's all.
25:53Yeah, for no reason.
25:56How was your ride, Vester?
25:57It was great.
25:57Very peaceful.
25:58Was it peaceful after you switched cars?
26:00Yep.
26:00I think that was some shade.
26:02It was shade, and I'm taking it.
26:04Thanks for your honesty.
26:04I'm going to always be honest.
26:06What Destiny did in that moment on the car ride to the winery, you should never ask your
26:13friend to excuse someone being disrespectful to them.
26:17And that is hurtful for me, because I really do love Destiny, and I cherish our relationship.
26:23But I also have to protect me.
26:25I love me more.
26:27Can we start this over?
26:28Mm-hmm.
26:28So what was y'all talking about?
26:30You.
26:31What y'all say about me?
26:32What I do?
26:33What I did?
26:33Because you got out the car.
26:35Well, I was just trying to split myself evenly between both parties.
26:39And thank you.
26:40That was very thoughtful.
26:41Very sweet.
26:41I'm so professional.
26:42Y'all talking about me just getting out of the car.
26:44That's it.
26:44What else did y'all talk about?
26:45Don't tell you what happened to our car.
26:47They're not sharing any information about what happened in their car.
26:49First of all, I ask a question, then you get an answer.
26:51Then you answer the next question.
26:53I asked you a question.
26:53You got smart with me, so that's the energy that we're going to have.
26:55Who got smart with you?
26:56You did.
26:57How did I get smart with you?
26:58You got to be like, what you say when I first asked him?
27:00You got to ask her what I said.
27:02Why you switched cars?
27:03What is this energy, Tisha?
27:04Because you gave me that energy.
27:06I did not.
27:06Yes, you did.
27:07Now, as you switched cars, then you said.
27:09She said it was peaceful.
27:10There's more peaceful.
27:11I said that was shade.
27:11You said absolutely.
27:12So I'm like, oh.
27:13I said you asked a direct question, and if the answer came off Shady, it was direct.
27:16I don't have a reason to give shade.
27:17I'm trying to have a good, amicable trip, and I don't understand the energy.
27:20Get the toll.
27:21The toll is like, yeah, for no reason.
27:23I'm surprised that Tisha is feeling a way about me saying that the ride in the other car
27:29with Nell was peaceful.
27:30I was doing my best to remain neutral because it wasn't really my fight.
27:35This is a time for the ladies to get to know each other on a different level, agree to disagree,
27:40give some grace, and just have a good time.
27:44That was everybody's ride.
27:45The ride was very peaceful.
27:47There you go.
27:47Y'all hear that?
27:48We just started over.
27:49We started off on the wrong foot, so let's get back.
27:51I just want to make sure we good.
27:53If you felt like I got smart with you, that was not my intent.
27:56I thought you were joking.
27:57To be honest, when you said, was it he smart?
27:58I'm like, yes.
28:00So that's how I perceived it.
28:02I mean, it's enough smoke over here.
28:04I don't need nothing for you.
28:04Well, they may not be in my feelings.
28:06We're good.
28:07Okay.
28:07I am determined to overlook Tisha's tantrums so that we can enjoy this outing.
28:15So everybody brought a basket.
28:17Y'all got my message about putting something sentimental or something to tell about yourself.
28:21And a basket.
28:22So this is my basket.
28:24Can y'all see it?
28:27I have a picture of Law and I when he was a little baby.
28:32And this picture is very sentimental to me because for him I had five miscarriages.
28:37So he means so much to me.
28:40This is from a very hard time in my life.
28:42When Law was two months old, he ended up in the hospital fighting for his life.
28:46And I remember just being by his bedside, waiting for him to come back to me.
28:53And I keep this little girl because it reminds me of his strength and him being a fighter, just like his mama.
28:58I always like to wear my family's weight on me.
29:04And me lifting weights, it's like lifting them up.
29:07And I brought a picture of us younger because, like, without my family, I don't know where I'd be right now.
29:17Obviously, I couldn't have a basket without Jalen.
29:22Aw.
29:23Jalen, um, dang, I ain't gonna cry.
29:26Jalen is, like, my everything.
29:29And then everybody knows my candle.
29:33Don't act like you don't.
29:35So I put my candle.
29:37I love it.
29:37I love my candle.
29:38Um, and y'all helped me name my first scent.
29:41So I appreciate that.
29:43Aw, that's so sweet, baby.
29:44That's my basket.
29:45At the end of the day, I am happy that I decided to come to the winery because we're around each other a lot, the ladies in this group.
29:53And it's great that we get a chance to learn more about each other.
29:57Who wants to go next?
29:59Okay.
30:00So, actually, uh, with my basket, I didn't have anything in it.
30:08I really couldn't think what to put in it.
30:14I really didn't want to put anything in it.
30:20Coming up on Love and Marriage Huntsville.
30:23You've been getting in my face.
30:24You've been getting in my husband's face.
30:26Wow, I've been doing this.
30:28You only got in my face at my birthday party last year.
30:30So I'm back to that.
30:31My husband's face at Trish's birthday party.
30:34It seems like Nell wants to have an issue with me.
30:36And if she want to have an issue...
30:37That's not true.
30:38Actually, uh, with my basket, I didn't have anything in it.
30:50I really couldn't think what to put in it.
30:54My thoughts of Nell not putting anything in her basket, it was a little disappointing.
30:59I do wish that Nell would have put in a little bit more effort, um, especially with the ladies seemingly open to get to know her.
31:05Can I ask a question?
31:08Sure.
31:09Why did you not want to put anything in your basket?
31:13There was nothing that I felt like I needed to share or wanted to share.
31:17In this group, we're talking about being transparent.
31:19So we're trying to learn more about each other.
31:22This basket sharing moment is important for us to, you know, just learn something about each other that we don't already know.
31:29But at the end of the day, Nell is going to do what she's going to do.
31:33So was it because you didn't want to share?
31:35I couldn't think of anything I wanted to share in that moment.
31:39I think I've been very transparent.
31:42But in this group, transparency is used more as revenge.
31:49Baked calculation.
31:51They pick and choose what they want to share, and I can do the same.
31:54And that's what I've chosen to do moving forward.
31:57Okay, so, this is my basket here.
32:04And I have a couple of things in it.
32:07I have a golden egg because I have a heart of gold.
32:12That's my weakness and my strength.
32:14Friends.
32:15This is friends because I value my relationship with my friends.
32:20Um, most of my girlfriends are pretty much like my family because, of course, I don't have sisters.
32:26I'm the only girl.
32:27I have two younger brothers.
32:28And so my friendship is very, very, very important.
32:32If I allow you in my space, I love you and I care for you.
32:35That's why when my friends turn on me and hurt me, it hurts really, really bad because I love so hard.
32:45Um, last but at least, at the friendship, snake.
32:50Because once you bite me one time, it's a wrap for me.
32:55Tisha!
32:58You can always count on that chick for a little shade.
33:01Every single time, her.
33:04Because I love so hard, so I can't let you get to me again.
33:07Letisha brings out the prop snake, and it's obviously aimed for me.
33:12This is typical behavior for Letisha.
33:15Grow the rock, hide her hand, hit below the belt.
33:18That's what she does.
33:24Tisha came on this trip with the chip on her shoulder and the snake in her basket.
33:27It's like, how does that make us move forward in any form or fashion?
33:31And then she's slithering at that nail in me, like, what are you doing, girl?
33:34What?
33:35Okay.
33:37That's it for me.
33:39It was a very good basket and very interesting.
33:42Well, it was my basket, so, hey, I'm happy y'all like it.
33:44And it's kind of interesting, good.
33:46Well, I've enjoyed all of y'all and the sharing of your basket and all the things that mean something to you and that are important to you.
33:52So I hope it gives us a little bit more insight on each other on a deeper level.
33:57I feel like we could have gotten a little bit more from you, but I know we're taking steps.
34:02Like what?
34:03And that's actually why I asked the question, to be perfectly honest.
34:06Because I felt like there was a moment of when you said you weren't sure you wanted to put anything in there.
34:11Like, we want you to put stuff in there.
34:18We want to get to know you better.
34:19We want you to let us pass the outer layer.
34:23And that was exactly why I asked the question.
34:25That's fine.
34:26And I can receive that.
34:30Um, I have a lot on my plate with my life right now.
34:38I have a huge family.
34:40I have adult children.
34:41I have a child care center.
34:43I have a lot going on.
34:44And it's like I'm not in the best space, um, with the group.
34:51Even though you apologized to me, I know we had a moment.
34:54And then me and Leticia are still at it.
34:57But I'm not that close to you all to share some of my deepest things.
35:03That's the way I move.
35:04Like, for me to just share deep things, I have to be really close to you.
35:12Didn't she say something about us not being transparent?
35:14I mean, I'm just saying, Nell needs to learn how to communicate better.
35:19Her A, she needs to know how to properly communicate to us.
35:23Destiny, I think you did great.
35:24You know, for a start, I mean, A for effort.
35:26However, um, I don't know if it's going to be possible for all of us to move forward in this group.
35:30Because everybody's not being transparent.
35:33Um, it's not okay that when somebody in the group go back and talk about another person to other ladies in the group.
35:41You know, and it gets back to the person that you're talking about.
35:43You can't say it in their face.
35:45So that's my problem with these ladies in this group.
35:48Well, one particular lady in the group.
35:55So that's my problem with these ladies in this group.
35:58Well, one particular lady in the group.
36:00You know, I feel like if you got something to say about me and about my marriage, about my husband and what I should be paying attention to,
36:07don't go say it to Destiny.
36:08Don't go say it to Trish.
36:09But, you know, say it directly to me.
36:11I've said all I need to say to you.
36:15What?
36:15And that you haven't said nothing to me.
36:16We have talked about this.
36:17No, we haven't.
36:18When we tried to talk about it, your energy was extremely high and you didn't want to talk about it.
36:22If I said anything about you, it was before I sat down and talked to you at the coffee shop.
36:30Oh, so your conversation with Destiny was before that?
36:32Before the coffee shop?
36:34When you talked to Destiny about me and you told her that I need to watch the video of my husband and about keeping your name on my mind.
36:39I did say that.
36:40That was before we had our conversation at the coffee shop?
36:43Well, see, that's the thing.
36:45Whatever the timeline was, I will tell you this.
36:47I have said some about you.
36:50When I talked to you at the coffee shop, at that time I had not spoken to Destiny.
36:54So you talked to Destiny after the coffee shop?
36:55Yes.
36:56I think both of them are hurt and offended at this point and I don't think either of them are doing a very good job of squashing this.
37:04And so I think that there's something under there that they haven't been able to get past.
37:11And I don't think Tisha's interested.
37:14It seems like Nell wants to have an issue with me and if she want to have an issue with me...
37:18That's not true!
37:18What I was trying to do at the game night was talk to you and see why you went to Trish and said that I wasn't being transparent and you told Destiny that I need to keep your name out of my mouth.
37:32And you also told Destiny that I need to be concerned about the video of my husband.
37:36And that was not okay.
37:38And so my thing is that we would never be okay.
37:42Because I don't like how you move.
37:44I don't like the fact that we met and I broke down in front of you and I thought we had a moment but yet and still you go back and s*** on me to Destiny.
37:54That's not okay with me.
37:55And that's not something I expect from a woman of your age who said I'm a mentor or I am a life coach.
38:03If you had an issue with me, we said at the coffee place, come and talk to me.
38:07Don't go talk about me to Destiny.
38:09Don't go talk about me to Trish.
38:10Don't go talk about me to Kimmy.
38:11You can come directly to me and tell me what the problem is.
38:14I've never not stated where I stand with any and everything.
38:19If I said it once, I said it again.
38:20I don't have an issue with you.
38:21I haven't said anything about you.
38:23When I met with Destiny, my thing was once again, here we go, Letitia got her mother s*** name in her mouth.
38:31Like, why does she keep talking about this thing with my son, my grandchild?
38:39Why we keep here?
38:42Why we keep talking about my issues?
38:45Like, I don't like her.
38:47Because she is the type of person that when you say, hey, this right here hurts, if you click right here, it hurts.
38:52And they poke you right there.
38:54No, that's not true.
38:56And I don't like people like this.
38:57I'm not that type of person.
38:57That's exactly what you did.
38:59I'm not that type of person.
39:00That's exactly what you did.
39:04Tisha is telling a damn lie.
39:06For Tisha to say that I'm a cruel person, it shows how little she knows me.
39:13That is not who I am.
39:14That is not what I stand for.
39:16That is not even my character.
39:17That is who she is.
39:20So she's deflecting on her own self.
39:22You've been getting in my face.
39:24You've been getting in my husband's face.
39:26Wow, I've been doing this.
39:27You've been got in my face at my birthday party last year.
39:30You got in my husband's face at Trish's birthday party this year.
39:34So do we move on?
39:35Do we talk about something and we apologize?
39:36Well, even at Fleshtivity, you brought all these things back up.
39:39I did?
39:40We clearly can't move forward because even with me apologizing for certain things,
39:44there's still underlying surface things there.
39:50This trip has officially not gone as planned.
39:52Turned up, Tisha came to just fight with everybody.
39:55Yeah, this is not what I wanted.
39:58It's like you excused everything you did.
40:00I'm not excusing anything, babe.
40:01I took ownership of mine.
40:02Okay, and I took ownership of mine.
40:04Oh, have you?
40:05Yes, I have.
40:06I ain't heard ownership of .
40:07You tell me what I didn't take ownership of.
40:08I don't care, babe.
40:09I don't.
40:10I don't need it.
40:10Okay, check.
40:16Next on Love and Marriage Huntsville.
40:18When I look at you dead in the eye and say, hey, Tisha, I'm doing the best I can.
40:22Just because you don't see it happening, there's a lot of stuff that you don't see.
40:25I would think that after 20 years of being together, I think that maybe once you could just
40:32understand that I'm the guy that kind of maybe you could listen to.
40:35I still think that you have some portions of yourself that haven't been vulnerable enough
40:42or open enough or accountable enough to the parts that you can do better.
40:47I'm doing this therapy because, first of all, nobody has all the answers.
40:53I don't need a bunch of cliche.
40:55I need stuff I can actually use on a regular basis, something that matters.
41:00I think it's easy for you to blame me.
41:03Do you know what the problem is with you and Letitia?
41:08You and Marceau.
41:08The problem with you and Letitia is me and Marceau?
41:12Yeah.
41:13She better leave me alone.
41:14I'm gonna teach you.
41:15Yeah.
41:16Before I come for her damn marriage on some that I do know for sure.
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