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Love & Marriage: Huntsville - Season 10 Episode 14 -
Nell in a Handbasket
Nell in a Handbasket
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00:00And what's going on in her life, in her marriage,
00:02and that damn Martell went live.
00:05Your friend need to keep my family's business
00:08out her mouth.
00:12I think Nell got triggered, because when I met with her,
00:15she said, Letitia Scott need to mind her .
00:19Mind my business about what?
00:22Nell wants to have a problem with me.
00:24You know that's stirring the pot.
00:26Is it?
00:26Yes, for me.
00:28I mean, it's easy to have a good conversation with me, Destiny,
00:30and Kimmy, because we all know one another.
00:32I think Destiny is everybody's friend.
00:35She's everybody's friend.
00:37Friend to everybody's is a friend to nobody's.
00:41The wife felt like all y'all ganged up on her.
00:43Was Destiny a part of that, too?
00:44Yeah.
00:45Did she really say she felt ganged up on?
00:47Yeah.
00:48It's a family.
00:49Everybody tired.
00:50It ain't just by one person.
00:51It's by all of us.
00:52Well, one person is doing a .
00:55One person here is doing a , and that happened to be me.
01:00We keep it movin'.
01:03All day, all night.
01:05Yeah.
01:06Ain't no stopping us.
01:08Drop that.
01:09We keep it movin'.
01:11You know.
01:12You know.
01:13We keep it movin'.
01:15All day, all night.
01:17Yeah.
01:18Yeah.
01:19All day, all night.
01:20Yeah.
01:21Ain't no stopping us.
01:22Yeah.
01:23Yeah.
01:24All day, all night.
01:25Yeah.
01:26Ain't no stopping us.
01:27Yeah.
01:28Yeah.
01:29Yeah.
01:30Yeah.
01:31Yeah.
01:32I'm coming up, babe.
01:53Don't get upset because I'd have made myself a mimosa.
01:57I'm spilling on your carpet.
01:58Oh, no, don't on my carpet now.
02:00I'm sorry.
02:01I forgot to grab a napkin.
02:02Turn the TV off.
02:04I'm glad you turned it off because I was going to turn it off for you.
02:07Why are you going to come up here and turn my TV off?
02:09Because I need to talk to you.
02:10On what?
02:11About the other night?
02:12The family dinner.
02:13Yeah, you already know.
02:14It was a lot.
02:15If you ask for these dinners and then I'm the one, get upset, or they make me upset, take
02:23me to another level, and you just, you sit there and you like...
02:27I'm like what?
02:29I mean, I've been doing this all my life.
02:31Exactly.
02:32Do nothing.
02:33I'm not a comfort...
02:34What'd you say?
02:35Nothing.
02:36When it comes to them, you don't.
02:37You just sit there.
02:38I'm listening.
02:39You got to hear what's going on to figure out how to possibly have a solution to it.
02:44What do you want me to do?
02:45Just get up and smack the hell out of one of them or something?
02:47That'll work for me.
02:48Me getting up and slapping somebody is not going to help anything.
02:52I understand how you feel, but someone has to make sure there's a clean, level head in all these situations.
03:01My wife, she can be very quick tempered.
03:05Just through experience, I've learned that, you know, when you react so quickly, you can react out of turn.
03:12So I've learned to sit back and wait because, you know, if I jump when she jumps, then that's like adding fuel to the fire.
03:20We can make things worse when they really don't have to be.
03:23When I did get mad, and I went off, and I got so emotional until I cried, and it hurt me so bad.
03:31You didn't say nothing.
03:37Okay, well.
03:39I think that could have been a perfect opportunity for you to say something to them.
03:44Okay.
03:45If that's how you feel, I understand, and I apologize.
03:50I would never put you in that position again.
03:53If you felt that was wrong, I apologize.
03:56I felt it was dead-ass wrong.
03:58Okay.
03:59I didn't like it.
04:00I'll make sure I have something to say if it happens again.
04:04All right.
04:07I just have to wait and see with this family how things go.
04:10I don't know.
04:12It's where we stand.
04:20Hey, Kimberly.
04:21Oh, hey, Kimberly.
04:22That's you.
04:23That's great for me.
04:24I bet it is.
04:25So we all get the call from Destiny.
04:34It's time to meet up.
04:48Usually, it's a hoot.
04:50Good food.
04:51Good fun.
04:52So let's see what's on the books for today.
04:54Would you like something to drink?
04:55Water?
04:56I'll just get some water.
04:57Okay.
04:58Why are you watering it up?
04:59Just need some.
05:00Just need some.
05:01Just need some.
05:02You had a little wild night or something?
05:04It's a chill day for her.
05:05You and Maurice had a little wild night?
05:07No, man.
05:08Not at all.
05:09Mmm.
05:10Not at all.
05:11We've been just working.
05:12Working, working.
05:13We've been just kind of chilling.
05:14Mmm-hmm.
05:15Yep.
05:16I need a wild night.
05:17That's what everybody been doing.
05:18Everybody's like, you just been working, working.
05:19You need a wild night?
05:20Yeah.
05:21We getting to the end of the road.
05:23We getting ready for these boys to graduate and get up out of here.
05:27Aww.
05:28Bittersweet.
05:29Mine is going to kindergarten.
05:32Dang, you just been started, baby.
05:34That's great.
05:35So what's up?
05:36What you been up to?
05:37You know, working.
05:38You know, I had a business lunch with Martel and Chris, and Chris had an interesting perspective
05:47on the festivities night, and he mentioned that Nell felt ganged up on and Tisha.
05:53Hear me out.
05:54Hear me out.
05:55Okay.
05:56Do I believe it to be true that she was ganged up on?
05:57No.
05:58But can I see her perspective that it felt that way?
06:01I guess when people are calling you on your BS, then you could actually feel like
06:05you're being ganged up on.
06:06However, Nell came into the conversation with bad energy.
06:10I just feel like Nell just wasn't there to hear whatever it was we had to say.
06:15Even if, at the end of the day, you felt as though four out of five people had things
06:22to say to you, it was because of what you were saying.
06:25And the energy you was given.
06:26Three out of five.
06:27One, two, three.
06:28What'd I say?
06:29It was four.
06:30When she was hollering at me, you told her she was hollering at me.
06:33I did.
06:34That's not ganged up on.
06:35That's accountability.
06:36Right.
06:37People were trying to hold her accountable.
06:38No, she said she's ganged up on.
06:39That's my point.
06:40And no, no, no.
06:41I'm not negating that that is the other side of the...
06:42You made my entire point.
06:43Can we talk about something else now?
06:45Cheers to that.
06:47Just saying.
06:49I don't know what Destiny's doing with this Nell situation.
06:52She 100% was in the four out of the five saying, you're hollering, you're yelling, calm down,
07:01chill out.
07:02Her response is, but I wasn't ganging up, I was holding her accountable.
07:06Well, we all was holding her accountable.
07:08That's the whole point of the conversation.
07:10The part that I hate is that the Nell that I know and have seen, y'all haven't gotten a chance to meet.
07:15I met Nell when her mom was dying.
07:17And so, like, I saw her in a different light.
07:20Like, her praying for me and my marriage and, like, before I even got married and her crying to me about not being able to make my wedding,
07:27because her mom passed away a couple days before.
07:29So, like, I've seen another side of her.
07:31And since then, she's been kind of hard and, like, lashing out.
07:34And it's just kind of hard to be in this space because I'm like, I give her more grace than most people, I guess.
07:40I try to, though, Destiny.
07:42Maybe she wants to show that side with you because, like, it is okay for Nell to be cool with you and whoever else and not be cool with me.
07:49I'm okay with that.
07:50And I just don't want that energy because this group, like, both of y'all husbands do business.
07:56Like, we're bound to be around each other.
07:59So Nell's going to be around.
08:01I'm having a girls' trip, and we're going to a winery, and all of the girls are invited.
08:06All of the girls?
08:07We're going to all be there.
08:08See what I'm saying?
08:09You said that very well when she said all the girls.
08:12Yeah, because I really don't want to be around Nell.
08:15I'm really not here for a girls' trip with Nell and the ladies because hearing what Nell said to Destiny about me and, you know, my husband
08:25and about this stupid interview that Martell did.
08:27I didn't tell you this, and I should have, but I forgot.
08:30But when I met with her, she was like, she need not worry about my husband.
08:33She needs to worry about they throwing up on that video or that tape.
08:36I ain't never got to worry about another woman.
08:38Ever.
08:39For her to turn around and use that and talk about me and use it against me, I think that's the nail in the Nell coffin for me.
08:46If you're having a trip and you want me to be around her, okay, whatever, fine.
08:50I just want to be very clear.
08:52I don't like her.
08:53I don't like how she operates.
08:55I don't like how she moves.
08:56And I just don't like that type of person.
08:59I know Nell and Tisha are beefing, but Tisha has said way too many times that she could be in a room with someone that she doesn't get along with and still be an adult and be gorgeous.
09:09So I'm inviting the ladies to the winery because I really think that the ladies need to come together on a level where there's no husbands and there's no kids.
09:17There's no business.
09:18So let's have a good time.
09:20Speaking of my event.
09:22Oh, I have baskets.
09:23The baskets.
09:24What's this?
09:25We having a picnic?
09:26No, we're not having a picnic.
09:27So I went on a date.
09:28Who did you go on a date with?
09:30Will.
09:31Brought some stuff to hopefully let you know a little bit more about who I am.
09:36So googly eyes just got kicked to the curb just like that?
09:39No.
09:40No.
09:41No.
09:42Nobody's kicked to the curb.
09:43She's been saying Will a lot lately.
09:45I have not.
09:46You've only seen Will at flashivities and that.
09:49So you went on a date with Will, huh?
09:51What happened to googly eyes?
09:53Never mind.
09:54Because it's not my business.
09:55I see.
09:56I get it.
09:57It's not my business.
09:58You do you, boo-boo.
10:02Will?
10:03Is that the only person you googly eyes?
10:04Back to the basket.
10:05So in the basket, what I would like for you ladies to do is find small items from your
10:10home.
10:11You don't have to go out and get things that are sentimental and important to you.
10:15Put them in the basket and we're going to talk about it to like get to know each other
10:19a little bit more.
10:20It's like a show and tell.
10:21Are you saying you want us to get to know one another with the ladies?
10:25There's depth to all of us.
10:26There's parts of us that all of us don't know.
10:28I think we know each other well.
10:30But then there's Trish.
10:31There's Nell.
10:32Although I'm excited to learn something about the ladies, I'm done with Nell.
10:36Like, I'm done with that relationship.
10:39Bye.
10:41And we're going to have a good time.
10:42Don't forget your basket.
10:43Okay, Destiny.
10:44I'm about to go.
10:45So I got to go get my kids from school.
10:46But I need a few steaks.
10:47You got to get the tab.
10:48Uh-oh.
10:49How the hell I get the tab at your restaurant?
10:51That's your party.
10:52You know what?
10:53Make sure she pay for all of us.
10:55Okay, bye, Destiny.
10:56Love you.
10:57Bye.
10:58I'm so sick of them.
10:59You better put that on Marceau's tab.
11:01Oh!
11:03Coming up on Love and Marriage Huntsville.
11:06Chris said that you felt like you were being ganged up on.
11:08I did, by everybody.
11:11I'm not trying to play victim.
11:13I just really feel like I was being ganged up on.
11:17Now we're, like, clean slate moving forward today.
11:20Yes.
11:21I hope so.
11:22Does she feel like she off me in the poll?
11:23Who?
11:24Lernell.
11:25I'm keeping the name out my mouth.
11:38There's so much to me.
11:39But if I had to let you go.
11:41Just take the time to see.
11:44There's a grim new change.
11:46Don't go.
11:48My family dinner, to me, it wasn't the best for me.
11:53But today is a new day.
11:55I'm going to meet up with Destiny.
11:56We're going to have some girl time.
11:58We're going to make some beautiful floor arrangements.
12:00And hopefully, making these floor arrangements bring me the peace and calm that I need.
12:05Well, hello!
12:06Hi!
12:07I'm bringing Nell to Albert's Flowers, a Black-owned local flower shop, because I know this is
12:12what she loves.
12:13She loves flowers.
12:14She loves arrangements.
12:16I'm hoping that being here will get her calm, relaxed, and in her element so that she
12:22can have a real conversation.
12:23The last time I saw her was at Fleshtivity, so it was a little intense.
12:27Yeah, I'm loving this.
12:31Oh, that's beautiful.
12:33That really is pretty.
12:34You came in here showing out.
12:36Does anybody need you to come in here showing out?
12:39What is going on with mine?
12:40What does it look like?
12:41It's different.
12:43Is that your answer?
12:44There's nothing wrong with yours.
12:47I'm sure Chris told you we had a meeting about one of Martell's properties and being dual agents
12:54on it.
12:55And then it came up about Fleshtivity's that, well, Chris said that you felt like you were
13:03being ganged up on.
13:04I did.
13:05By everybody?
13:06Yes.
13:07What did y'all think y'all doing here?
13:08Gang up on me?
13:09Who?
13:10I didn't say you.
13:11Oh, okay.
13:12I didn't say you.
13:13I didn't say you.
13:14I'm strictly talking about 1.0 and 2.0.
13:17With you.
13:18I said, I'm not talking to you.
13:19I was really talking to Latisha and Kimmy.
13:22But I feel like you just kind of jumped at like, well, wait, I haven't done nothing.
13:27But you were so quick.
13:28To say that I wasn't a part of it.
13:29Right.
13:30Why won't I be quick on that?
13:31But it was the way you did it to me.
13:32And that's when Latisha was like, oh, my God, oh, my God, the victim.
13:35And I'm like, I'm not trying to play victim.
13:38I just really feel like I was being ganged up on.
13:50I have a problem sometimes communicating, especially when I have so much going on.
13:55I know.
13:56And now you got these grandbabies.
13:57Right.
13:58You know, my niece, my marriage.
14:00It's a lot.
14:01You know, my business, I deal with other people's kids.
14:04So by the time I get to this group of ladies, I'm tired.
14:09I just want peace, really.
14:11Just don't poke me.
14:13I have so much going on in my own personal life right now that this mess that Latisha Scott
14:19got going on with her and me, you know, I don't even have time for it right now.
14:24It's so much miscommunication in this group.
14:26And then when we get to the acknowledgement of miscommunication, it still goes nowhere.
14:31Like, I can acknowledge the fact that it could have been perceived as you being ganged up on.
14:36Now feeling ganged up on, I can kind of see that.
14:38Do I really think it was intentional?
14:40No.
14:41But I can see how it felt that way.
14:43So you're good enough to go on a trip with all of the ladies?
14:46Hey, I'm good.
14:51So I'm taking all the ladies on the trip.
14:53Like, I know how to conduct myself.
14:56I'm taking all the ladies on a trip.
14:57We're going to a winery.
14:58And we're going to have an amazing time.
15:02And I have, I went on a date recently.
15:05Don't be laughing.
15:06What you giggling for?
15:07Who'd you go out with this time?
15:09Well, I went on a date with Will.
15:11And Will brought a basket, which I thought was so cute.
15:15And in the basket, he put personalized items to, like, tell me more about himself.
15:20So I stole his idea.
15:22I got all the ladies' baskets.
15:24I want everybody to put personalized little mini items.
15:27Tell about yourself to the group.
15:28It's kind of like a show and tell.
15:31Well, this is your basket.
15:34Don't be shady.
15:35You said you're going on a trip.
15:36I might be sick that day.
15:37You ain't sick.
15:38I ain't feeling good all of a sudden.
15:40Listen.
15:41I'm being serious.
15:42I'm being real serious right now.
15:43This is your basket.
15:44And you are the only person that has already gotten a gift from me inside of the basket.
15:49This is a little Bible.
15:51You want to know why I got you that gift?
15:53It's because of how special you were to me as I was going through being engaged, married, divorced.
16:00You always prayed for me.
16:02You always showed up as a very prophetic woman.
16:06And I know the power inside of you.
16:09I've seen it.
16:11And the ladies have not.
16:12I know.
16:13I know.
16:14And I know they play and they poke about you being a life coach and being a mentor.
16:22But you have been that for me.
16:23So it's hard for me seeing y'all have y'all battles when I know your heart.
16:29Because I know you.
16:30And I've seen you.
16:32I've seen you in all your power.
16:34But I haven't seen you since your mom died.
16:36It's hardened you.
16:37It's hardened you.
16:38It's put a shell around you.
16:40And I want everybody to be able to see a woman that I love and I know.
16:45She's still there.
16:46She's still there.
16:49She's not available to some people.
16:52I can see what I'm being played with.
16:54But she's still there.
16:58I know.
16:59I know.
17:00What I have with you is real.
17:04I'm just not there with everybody else.
17:06That's me.
17:07Right?
17:08I haven't been through nothing with them as I have with you.
17:15I do not let a lot of people get close to me.
17:18That's just who I am as a person.
17:20I've always been that way.
17:21I do not let everyone know how I feel or what I'm dealing with or what I'm going through.
17:28Unless you have that special place or a friendship with me.
17:34Even with us, we've had some rough patches.
17:38And I want my nail back.
17:45I love you too.
17:48Coming up on Love and Marriage Huntsville.
17:51So you didn't ask her?
17:52She felt like she owe me an apology?
17:53I didn't ask you.
17:54I didn't ask you.
17:55I didn't do anything.
17:56Why y'all keep pointing the finger at me?
17:57I didn't ask her.
17:58It is not me.
17:59I didn't ask you.
18:00Don't be in the middle of it.
18:01I'm not in the middle of it.
18:02Y'all are supposed to be in the middle.
18:03I'm not putting you in the middle.
18:04You put yourself in the middle.
18:05You didn't know.
18:06I didn't.
18:25Hey, chick.
18:26Y'all ready?
18:27Y'all ready?
18:28As ready as we gonna be.
18:29What's up?
18:30What's up?
18:31Considering the tension between Tisha and Nell, I think it's best for us to ride in separate
18:37cars so everybody can have their space and their peace.
18:41And I think the winery is the best place to bring us together because wine always helps.
18:46And there are the other ladies.
18:49Oh, okay.
18:50Yeah.
18:51So we ready to go?
18:52When I first get into the car, the energy is like, it's not bad, but it does feel like
18:57a drop of Miss Daisy moment.
18:58Not that she's like, oh, Miss Daisy.
19:01It just feels like a drop of Miss Daisy moment.
19:03So, Destiny, how's this gonna go?
19:04What we gotta look forward to?
19:05I need an itinerary.
19:06How about it?
19:07Have you been to a winery before?
19:08Yes, I have.
19:09Have you, Kimmy?
19:10Of course not.
19:11She don't like wine.
19:12Hey, hey, hey.
19:13I'm growing up.
19:14I'm so happy.
19:15It's big girl stuff.
19:16My chimneys were so fun, but I was just like...
19:17It was a lot going on.
19:18I was trying to stay peaceful.
19:19Y'all was not trying to stay peaceful.
19:20Hey, I was on the inside mind of my own business.
19:21I was now.
19:22Y'all don't see coming to a mutual understanding in the near future.
19:39I don't know.
19:40I mean, I don't have, I really don't have a problem with Leticia.
19:43Was everybody else very receptive?
19:46It came out well and received well and everybody's gonna have like a really good time?
19:50Absolutely.
19:51That's great.
19:52I had a conversation with Nell about just coming in and having fun.
19:56That's, that's what this trip is about.
19:57It's like getting to know people a little bit deeper.
20:00So we don't have to have these like blow up moments.
20:03So now we're like clean slate moving forward today.
20:06Yes.
20:07She feel like she owes me an apology.
20:08Who?
20:09The one you just told us you had a conversation with that.
20:11Who was that?
20:12You know who?
20:13Lernell.
20:14I'm keeping the name out of my mouth.
20:16I'll say it.
20:17I mean, I don't know.
20:18How did the cover?
20:19Okay.
20:20I didn't ask her any of those questions.
20:21I didn't ask you.
20:22So you didn't ask her?
20:23She felt like she owes me an apology?
20:24I didn't ask you.
20:25Did you feel like she owes me an apology?
20:26I didn't ask you.
20:27I didn't do anything.
20:28Why y'all keep pointing the finger at me?
20:29I didn't ask her.
20:30It is not me.
20:31I didn't ask you.
20:32My God.
20:33Y'all got my head hurt and we ain't even got to this trip yet.
20:35Your head shouldn't hurt.
20:36It is.
20:37Don't be in the middle of it.
20:38I'm not in the middle of it.
20:39Y'all throw me in the middle.
20:40Okay.
20:41Well, your head's like, I'm not putting you in the middle.
20:42You put yourself in the middle.
20:43You didn't know.
20:44I didn't.
20:45The sheer fact of the matter is, we wouldn't be in this situation if Destiny didn't tell
20:48what she should go now.
20:49See?
20:50The question was, did you ask?
20:51Did you feel like an apology should have happened?
20:53Because we're talking about the conversation you had with her.
20:55So I'm just asking you.
20:56And I said already that she's taking accountability and she's trying to be in a good place and have
21:00a good time.
21:01And you said the same thing, but then you're like, well, she need to say the in my face.
21:03Which one is it?
21:04You know what?
21:05I'm done with talking about her.
21:07Okay.
21:08I'm not going to let Tisha spoil this trip.
21:10I just don't know where this energy be coming from.
21:13You know what?
21:14I think we should pull over and I'm going to go check on that.
21:16What do you mean pull over?
21:17No.
21:18No.
21:19The answer's no.
21:20Okay.
21:21Perfect.
21:22Oh.
21:26Hello.
21:27Hi.
21:28Hi.
21:29We're going to swap out.
21:30You know.
21:31Is this wife swaps or something with this?
21:32Yes.
21:33Let's wife swap it.
21:34Wait.
21:35Not a wife.
21:36Well, you are still a wife.
21:37Never mind.
21:38Wife swap.
21:39Bitch, don't blame me.
21:40Wife swap.
21:41I am not a wife.
21:42Get on me.
21:43Trisha, you coming over here?
21:44Yes.
21:45Yay!
21:46One time.
21:47Uh-oh.
21:48Whatever.
21:49Bitches.
21:50I'm sick of their asses that it got on my nerves.
21:53Bye.
21:54Hi, Trisha.
21:55I haven't seen you in forever.
21:56I know.
21:57I know.
21:58Why'd she switch out?
21:59What'd she tell you?
22:00She just said we're finna switch?
22:02I think she got tired of us.
22:04What'd I miss?
22:05We be holding Destiny accountable.
22:06That's all.
22:07Yeah.
22:08Holding Destiny accountable for her conversations.
22:10Cause you know, she be in the middle.
22:11She be in the middle.
22:12And Nell.
22:13And Tisha.
22:14And those back and forth.
22:17Um, how did your ride with Trish go?
22:20It was lovely.
22:21I want to make sure that people have a good time.
22:23Enjoy this winery.
22:25Get to know each other a little bit better.
22:27Because I think that there's a lot of surface relationships.
22:29And people don't know the depths of each other.
22:31And if it's to go alone and get alone.
22:34When we're in this space, I get it.
22:36If it's that, that's what it is.
22:38But as long as we getting along.
22:40What's going on with you and the hubby boyfriend to Beyonce?
22:44Hubby 2B?
22:45What's good?
22:46What's the name?
22:47I'm glad that that's still the title.
22:48That works for me.
22:49It is.
22:50Now it was a little touch and go.
22:52I ain't gonna lie to you.
22:53Cause we both was like, yeah, nah.
22:57I think the chaos that came back into the picture just.
23:02And that's gone, so.
23:04I know, right?
23:05So now the flowers are back.
23:06Yeah.
23:07So have we been on a date with Twan?
23:10I went to a, what you would call a business, like lunch.
23:16But it was real interesting because, you know, him and I both agree.
23:21There's an attraction there.
23:23It's like forbidden fruit because of, even though Lance gave his blessing, but.
23:28Yeah.
23:29I'm gonna tell you something.
23:30We shut the restaurant down.
23:33Like didn't want to leave.
23:35Ooh.
23:36Yeah.
23:37I was not expecting that.
23:39And I don't think he was either.
23:41Ooh.
23:43Yeah.
23:44Scared the out of me.
23:46Um.
23:47Well, we're at the winery.
23:49Yay!
23:50We made it!
23:51We gotta, we gotta talk about this later.
23:54Cause that's, that's serious.
23:56Yeah.
23:57Bad, bad girl.
23:59Do it better.
24:00How you just gonna leave us?
24:01Oh, what had happened was.
24:03Golly, boy.
24:06Welcome to Juberta Winery.
24:09We're gonna do a tasting, sit down for lunch, and more wine.
24:12This is a six fortune flight.
24:14Okay.
24:15And these are basically our dry style wines.
24:17Now the first one is the Riesling base.
24:19And we can try that.
24:21And tell me what you think of it.
24:23This is our Sand Mountain Blanc.
24:29Next one is a, uh, it's a white blend, a little bit of Chardonnay.
24:35It is what we call white trash.
24:42Then we're gonna move on to the Rose.
24:49At this very moment in time, everybody's here in good spirits, talking to each other, drinking wine, having a good day.
24:57Right here.
25:00Table.
25:02Very cutesy.
25:03So how was the ride?
25:06The ride was fine.
25:07It's pretty.
25:08Long.
25:10A whole long hour.
25:12How was your ride, Dustin?
25:13It was great.
25:14Very peaceful.
25:15Oh.
25:16Was it peaceful after you switched cars?
25:17Yep.
25:19I think that was some shade.
25:20It was shade, and I'm taking it.
25:22But we need it, though, because there's no question.
25:24How was it shade?
25:26It's shade, but we need it.
25:28Thanks for your honesty.
25:29I'm gonna always be honest.
25:30Thank you for it.
25:31You welcome it.
25:32Wait a minute.
25:33Wait a minute.
25:34I need a shot.
25:35Can we start this over?
25:38Coming up on Love and Marriage Huntsville.
25:41I asked a question, then you get an answer.
25:42Then you answer the next question.
25:44I asked you a question.
25:45You got smart with me, so that's the energy that we're gonna have.
25:47Who got smart with you?
25:48I don't have a reason to get shade.
25:49I'm trying to have a good, amicable trip, and I don't understand the energy.
25:52At the tone.
25:53Yeah!
25:54For no reason.
25:55How was your ride, Dustin?
25:56It was great.
25:57Very peaceful.
25:58Was it peaceful after you switched cars?
25:59Yep.
26:00I think that was some shade.
26:01It was shade, and I'm taking it.
26:03Thanks for your honesty.
26:04I'm gonna always be honest.
26:06What Destiny did in that moment on the car ride to the winery, you should never ask your
26:13friend to excuse someone being disrespectful to them.
26:17And that is hurtful for me, because I really do love Destiny, and I cherish our relationship.
26:22But I also have to protect me.
26:25I love me more.
26:26Can we start this over?
26:28Mm-hmm.
26:29So what was y'all talking about?
26:30You.
26:31What'd y'all say about me?
26:32What I do?
26:33What I did?
26:34Cause you got out the car!
26:35Well, I was just trying to split myself evenly between both parties.
26:39And thank you.
26:40That was very thoughtful.
26:41Very sweet.
26:42Sounds so professional.
26:43Y'all talking about me just getting out of the car.
26:44That's it.
26:45What else did y'all talk about?
26:46What happened in our car?
26:47They're not sharing any information what happened in their car.
26:49First of all, I ask a question, then you get an answer.
26:51Then you answer the next question.
26:52I asked you a question.
26:53You got smart with me, so that's the energy that we're gonna have.
26:55Who got smart with you?
26:56You did.
26:57How did I get smart with you?
26:58You got to be like, what'd you say when I first asked him?
27:00You got to ask her what I said?
27:01Why'd you switch cars?
27:02What is this energy, Tisha?
27:04Cause you gave me that energy.
27:05I did not.
27:06Yes, you did.
27:07As you switched cars, then you said...
27:08She said it was peaceful.
27:09There's more peaceful.
27:10No.
27:11I said that was shade.
27:12You was like, absolutely.
27:13You asked a direct question, and if the answer came off Shady, it was direct.
27:16I don't have a reason to give shade.
27:17I'm trying to have a good, amicable trip, and I don't understand the energy.
27:20Get the toll.
27:21The toll?
27:22The toll?
27:23What is it?
27:24I'm surprised that Tisha is feeling a way about me saying that the ride in the other
27:29car with Nell was peaceful.
27:30I was doing my best to remain neutral, because it wasn't really my fight.
27:34This is the time for the ladies to get to know each other on a different level, agree
27:38to disagree, give some grace, and just have a good time.
27:43That was everybody's ride.
27:44The ride was very peaceful.
27:46There you go.
27:47Y'all hear that?
27:48We just started over.
27:49We started off on the wrong foot, so let's get back.
27:50I just want to make sure we good.
27:52If you felt like I got smart with you, that was not my intent.
27:55I thought you were joking.
27:56To be honest, when you said, was it he smart?
27:58I'm like, yes.
27:59So that's how I perceived it.
28:01I mean, it's enough smoke over here.
28:03I don't need nothing from you.
28:04Well, they may not be in my feelings.
28:05We're good.
28:06Okay.
28:07I am determined to overlook Tisha's tantrums so that we can enjoy this outing.
28:15So everybody brought a basket.
28:16Y'all got my message about putting something sentimental or something to tell about this.
28:19or something to tell about yourself in the basket.
28:22So this is my basket.
28:24Can y'all see it?
28:26I have a picture of Law and I when he's a little baby.
28:31And this picture is very sentimental to me because for him I had five miscarriages.
28:37So he means so much to me.
28:40This is from a very hard time in my life.
28:42When Law was two months old, he ended up in the hospital fighting for his life.
28:47And I remember just being by his bedside waiting for him to come back to me.
28:52And I keep this little gal because it reminds me of his strength and him being a fighter.
28:57Just like his mama.
28:59I always like to wear my family's weight on me.
29:03And me lifting weights, it's like lifting them up.
29:07And I brought a picture of us younger because like without my family, I don't know where I be right now.
29:16Obviously, I couldn't have a basket without Jalen.
29:21Aw.
29:22Jalen, um, dang, I ain't gonna grab.
29:25Jalen is like my everything.
29:28And then everybody knows my candle.
29:31Don't act like you don't.
29:34So I put my candle.
29:36I love it.
29:37I love it.
29:38I love my candle.
29:39And y'all helped me name my first scent.
29:41So I appreciate that.
29:42Aw, that's so sweet.
29:43That's my basket.
29:44At the end of the day, I am happy that I decided to come to the winery because we're
29:50around each other a lot, the ladies in this group.
29:53And it's great that we get a chance to learn more about each other.
29:57Who wants to go next?
29:59Okay.
30:00So actually, with my basket, I didn't have anything in it.
30:06I really couldn't think what to put in it.
30:11I really didn't want to put anything in it.
30:16Coming up on Love and Marriage Huntsville.
30:22You've been getting in my face.
30:24You've been getting in my husband's face.
30:26Wow, I've been doing this.
30:27You only got in my face at my birthday party last year.
30:30We got in my husband's face at Trish's birthday party.
30:33It seems like Nell wants to have an issue with me.
30:35And if she want to have an issue.
30:36That's not true.
30:37Actually, with my basket, I didn't have anything in it.
30:50I really couldn't think what to put in it.
30:54My thoughts of Nell not putting anything in her basket was a little disappointing.
30:58I do wish that Nell would have put in a little bit more effort, especially with the ladies seemingly open to get to know her.
31:05Can I ask a question?
31:07Sure.
31:08Why did you not want to put anything in your basket?
31:12There was nothing that I felt like I needed to share or wanted to share.
31:17In this group, we're talking about being transparent.
31:19So we're trying to learn more about each other.
31:22This basket sharing moment is important for us to, you know, just learn something about each other that we don't already know.
31:29But at the end of the day, Nell is going to do what she's going to do.
31:33So was it because you didn't want to share?
31:35I couldn't think of anything I wanted to share in that moment.
31:38I think I've been very transparent.
31:41But in this group, transparency is used more as revenge, bait, calculation.
31:51They pick and choose what they want to share, and I can do the same.
31:54And that's what I've chosen to do moving forward.
31:57Okay, so this is my basket here, and I have a couple of things in it.
32:06I have a golden egg because I have a heart of gold.
32:10That's my weakness and my strength.
32:14Friends.
32:15This is friends because I value my relationship with my friends.
32:20Most of my girlfriends are pretty much like my family because, of course, I don't have sisters.
32:26I'm the only girl.
32:27I have two younger brothers.
32:28And so my friendship is very, very, very important.
32:31If I allow you in my space, I love you and I care for you.
32:35That's why when my friends turn on me and hurt me, it hurts really, really bad because I love so hard.
32:45Um, last but not least, after friendship, snake, because once you bite me one time, it's a wrap for me.
32:55Letitia!
32:56You can always count on that chick for a little shade.
33:01Every single time, her.
33:03Because I love so hard, so I can't let you get to me again.
33:07Letitia brings out the prop snake, and it's obviously aimed for me.
33:12This is typical behavior for Letitia.
33:15Throw the rock, hide her hand, hit below the belt.
33:18That's what she does.
33:23Tisha came on this trip with the chip on her shoulder and the snake in her basket.
33:27It's like, how does that make us move forward in any form or fashion?
33:30And then she's slithering at that nail in me, like, what are you doing, girl?
33:34What?
33:35Okay.
33:36Uh, uh.
33:37That's it for me.
33:38It was a very good basket and very interesting.
33:41Well, it was my basket, so, hey, I'm happy y'all like it.
33:44Mm-hmm.
33:45And it's kind of interesting good.
33:46Well, I've enjoyed all of y'all and the sharing of your basket and all the things that mean something to you and that are important to you.
33:52So I hope it gives us a little bit more insight on each other on a deeper level.
33:57I feel like we could have gotten a little bit more for you, but I know we're taking steps.
34:01Like what?
34:02And that's actually why I asked the question, to be perfectly honest.
34:05Because I felt like there was a moment of when you said you weren't sure you wanted to put anything in there.
34:11Like, we want you to put stuff in there.
34:15We want to get to know you better.
34:19We want you to let us pass the outer layer.
34:22And that was exactly why I asked the question.
34:25That's fine.
34:26And I can receive that.
34:27Mm-hmm.
34:28Um, I have a lot on my plate with my life right now.
34:38I have a huge family.
34:39I have adult children.
34:40I have a child care center.
34:42I have a lot going on.
34:44And it's like I'm not in the best space.
34:47Um, with the group.
34:50Even though you apologize to me.
34:52I know we had a moment.
34:54And then me and Leticia are still at it.
34:57But I'm not that close to you all to share some of my deepest things.
35:02That's the way I move.
35:04Like, for me to just share deep things, I have to be really close to you.
35:11Did she say something about us not being transparent?
35:14I mean, I'm just saying.
35:16Nell needs to learn how to communicate better at her age.
35:19She needs to know how to properly communicate to us.
35:22Destiny, I think you did great.
35:23You know, for a start.
35:24I mean, A for effort.
35:25However, um, I don't know if it's going to be possible for all of us to move forward in this group.
35:29Because everybody's not being transparent.
35:32Um, it's not okay that when somebody in the group go back and talk about another person to other ladies in the group.
35:40You know, and it gets back to the person that you're talking about and you can't say it in their face.
35:44So that's my problem with these ladies in this group.
35:47Well, one particular lady in the group.
35:51So that's my problem with these ladies in this group.
35:57Well, one particular lady in the group.
35:59You know, I feel like if you got something to say about me and about my marriage, about my husband and what I should be paying attention to,
36:06don't go say it to Destiny, don't go say it to Trish, but you know, say it directly to me.
36:12I've said all I need to say to you.
36:14What, and you haven't said nothing to me?
36:15We have talked about this.
36:17No, we haven't.
36:18When we tried to talk about it, your energy was extremely high and you didn't want to talk about it.
36:22If I said anything about you, it was before I sat down and talked to you at the coffee shop.
36:29Oh, so your conversation with Destiny was before that?
36:32Before the coffee shop?
36:33When you talked to Destiny about me and you told her that I need to watch the video of my husband and about keeping your name on my mouth,
36:39that was before we had our conversation at the coffee shop?
36:42Well, see, that's the thing.
36:44Whatever the timeline was, I will tell you this.
36:47I have said some about you.
36:49When I talked to you at the coffee shop, at that time I had not spoken to Destiny.
36:54Okay, so you talked to Destiny after the coffee shop?
36:55Yes.
36:56I think both of them are hurt and offended at this point.
36:59And I don't think either of them are doing a very good job of squashing this.
37:05And so I think that there's something under there that they haven't been able to get past.
37:12And I don't think Tisha's interested.
37:14It seems like Nell wants to have an issue with me.
37:16And if she want to have an issue with me-
37:17That's not true!
37:18What I was trying to do at the game night was talk to you and see why you went to Trish and said that I wasn't being transparent.
37:28And you told Destiny that I need to keep your *** name out of my mouth.
37:32And you also told Destiny that I need to be concerned about the video of my husband.
37:35And that was not okay.
37:37And so my thing is that we would never be okay.
37:42Because I don't like how you move.
37:44I don't like the fact that we met and I broke down in front of you and I thought we had a moment.
37:50But yet and still you go back and *** on me to Destiny.
37:53That's not okay with me.
37:55And that's not something I expect from a woman of your age who said I'm a mentor or I am a life coach.
38:02If you had an issue with me, we said at the coffee place, come and talk to me.
38:07Don't go talk about me to Destiny.
38:09Don't go talk about me to Trish.
38:10Don't go talk about me to Kimmy.
38:11You can come directly to me and tell me what the problem is.
38:14I've never not stated where I stand with any and everything.
38:18If I said it once, I'd say it again.
38:20I don't have an issue with you.
38:21I haven't said anything about you.
38:23When I met with Destiny, my thing was once again, here we go.
38:27Letitia got my mother *** name in her mouth.
38:31So what did Destiny say to you?
38:33Why does she keep talking about this thing with my son, my grandchild?
38:38Why we keep here?
38:41Why we keep talking about my issues?
38:44With Nell, like, I don't like her.
38:47Because she is the type of person that when you say, hey, this right here hurts.
38:50If you cut right here, it hurts.
38:52And they poke you right there.
38:53No.
38:54That's not okay.
38:55That's not true.
38:56And I don't like people like this.
38:57I'm not that type of person.
38:58That's exactly what you did.
38:59I'm not that type of person.
39:00That's exactly what you did.
39:01No.
39:02Tisha is telling a damn lie.
39:06For Tisha to say that I'm a cruel person, it shows how little she knows me.
39:12That is not who I am.
39:14That is not what I stand for.
39:15That is not even my character.
39:17That is who she is.
39:19So she's deflecting on her own self.
39:22You've been getting in my face.
39:23You've been getting in my husband's face.
39:25Wow.
39:26I've been doing this.
39:27You've been getting in my face at my birthday party last year.
39:30You got in my husband's face at Trish's birthday party this year.
39:33So do we move on?
39:35Do we talk about something and we apologize?
39:36Well, even at Fleshtivity, you brought all these things back up.
39:39I did?
39:40We clearly can't move forward because even with me apologizing for certain things,
39:44there's still underlying surface things there.
39:50This trip has officially not gone as planned.
39:52It turned up Tisha came to just fight with everybody.
39:55Yeah, this is not what I wanted.
39:58It's like you excused everything you did.
40:00I'm not excusing anything, babe.
40:01I took ownership of mine.
40:02Okay, and I've took ownership of mine.
40:04Oh, have you?
40:05Yes, I have.
40:06I ain't heard ownership of .
40:07You tell me what I didn't take ownership of.
40:08No, I don't care, babe.
40:09I don't neither.
40:10Okay, check.
40:15Next on Love and Marriage Huntsville.
40:18When I look at you dead in the eye and say, hey, Tisha, I'm doing the best I can.
40:22Just because you don't see it happening, there's a lot of stuff that you don't see.
40:24I would think that, heck, after 20 years of being together, I think that maybe once you could just understand that I'm the guy that kind of maybe you could listen to.
40:36I still think that you have some portions of yourself that haven't been vulnerable enough or open enough or accountable enough to the parts that you can do better.
40:47I'm doing this therapy because, first of all, nobody has all the answers.
40:53I don't need a bunch of cliché.
40:54I need stuff I can actually use on a regular basis, something that matters.
41:00I think it's easy for you to blame me.
41:03Do you know what the problem is with you and Letitia?
41:07You and Marcel.
41:08The problem with you and Letitia is me and Marcel?
41:12Yeah.
41:13She better leave me alone.
41:14I'm gonna teach you.
41:15Yeah.
41:16Before I come for her damn marriage on some that I do know for sure.
41:20That's what I do know for sure.
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