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00:00Previously on The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City, my mom's moved in with me. Gwen and Gwen's
00:16boyfriend is here. I'm like running like a youth hostel and an elderly hostel at this point. My mom
00:23just had a big surgery in December. There's only a certain percentage of recovery here. Make peace
00:29with that relationship. What I witnessed on the plane, Meredith started going for Brittany
00:33and Lisa was in her ear just pouring fuel on the fire. This being spun into something it's not. I
00:39vented to a friend. I didn't even say. It's not something wasn't Meredith. I was there. It might
00:45take all of us saying that's not what happened. Hello. Hi. Oh God.
00:59You ready for lunch? You're starving. Me too. Oh, there's a lot of getting here. Bye fly.
01:14Mary's church service was beautiful. So nice. So beautiful. When we first got to the church,
01:29I felt like everyone's energy was off. Well, it was like that when we walked up. Yeah,
01:34it's me and they were like, why are you here basically? They come in there all smiles. Nothing's
01:40happened. Nothing's gone wrong. Them showing up so fake like nothing happened. That makes me even
01:45more uncomfortable. I know. What do you think is going to happen at lunch? I think that they're
01:49going to spin it and make it someone else's fault. It's going to be all of our faults.
01:53Hi guys. Hey. Thank you. Mary. Welcome, darling. Congratulations. This is so elegant. Your outfit
02:08is so beautiful. Oh my gosh. Thank you. After the plane ride, everyone is not forgiving. Everyone is not
02:15healed. So Lord help us all. Everyone in your church is so welcoming. Like I feel like that's what our church
02:21is built on is love. Hi. Broadway. Hi. Hi. Oh, Mary. Thank you. I ran right to you. Sorry. It's
02:31Dom Perignon. Of course it is. Of course it is. Thank you. Cheers. Wasn't that a beautiful service?
02:37It was unbelievable. Thank you, Mary. Hello, gentlemen. Hello. Hello. Hi guys. Hello. You were in your
02:43element. Hi. Welcome. Hi. It's the first lady of Faith Pentecostal. It was so beautiful and
02:53wonderful. Thank you for coming. I love the betta fish. This one might not be okay. Oh,
02:58he's like, no, he's moving. He's a snooze fast. We'll give that one to Mary.
03:03Oh, hello. Hey guys. You guys look so good. Everybody looks fabulous.
03:07Hello. Here we go. Oh, your guests are here. Hello. How are you, Mary? That was amazing. Thank you.
03:16Her guests are here. What is wrong with you? I felt your whole heart. I loved it. Oh, thank you. So sweet.
03:22Hi. Hi, baby. Okay. And there's beta fish, Lisa. Wait, where? They're over there. Oh,
03:31my gosh. Are you kidding? Do I get to go home with a fish? Yes.
03:34A goodie bag is usually a gift for me, not a responsibility for me. I mean, the more the
03:41merrier. I'm an empty nest. It doesn't mean I can't care for a fish. These fish, they kill each
03:46other. So you have to separate them. They're fighting fish, just like my friends. Should we get seated?
03:52So this is the Dom Perignon 2003? Yes, it is. Oh, my goodness. Should we do a cheers?
04:07Yes. Should I be looking for the tears of the deceased that made it happen? Not the tears of the
04:12deceased. You guys are drinking Dom Perignon 2003. In 2003, it was a heat wave. 5,600 people died,
04:20and it made the best grapes of all time. Oh, thank you so much.
04:30So I invited you all because this was an important day, and I felt like I needed
04:40a group around me of, I feel like, real friendship. If you notice, one's not here,
04:45which is Brittany. And I did let her know why she wasn't invited. I just want you to know that I'm
04:53having my event today, and I did not invite you because you told me that I was the most ungodly
05:01person that you've ever met. Okay. You are the least Christ-like person I have ever met in my entire
05:09life. Good life. I meant that in the moment because I felt like you were super mean and
05:15God wouldn't be mean to people, but it was a really terrible thing to say, and I'm sorry.
05:20I appreciate that. She did apologize, which shocked me, and she meant it. She meant it,
05:27and I just about hit the floor. I looked at my dog and I was like, should I invite her? Do you think
05:33that I should invite her? And I'm like, give me a pause if I should just change my mind and invite her?
05:42No. But he didn't give me a pause, so she's not here.
05:48Okay. And I feel like if she can apologize,
05:53we should be able to come together and understand each other, understand why we're hurt, understand,
06:04you know, what really happened or what didn't happen, and just apologize.
06:10And say, you know what? I'm sorry if that offended you, or I'm sorry. Oh my gosh, that's a magical
06:15sentence. Are you listening, Lisa? Are you listening to what Mary's saying? Are you listening to what Mary's
06:20saying? Is this a bite? I talked to Lisa about it, but there was no, I'm sorry said,
06:25and you didn't say I'm sorry to me. And I was trying to tell you, I was deeply offended. What
06:29was you heard about? Well, I was hurt that like this really great, amazing trip ended up in Brittany
06:38being like corralled off a plane by us, sobbing. She can't even stand Brittany, and she can't stand
06:47Brittany. And they were caressing her and helping her. It was a very intense, horrible situation.
06:54And like, you both are like, nothing happened. She's crazy. And like, I didn't say nothing happened.
07:00I did nothing to Brittany. I don't agree with what she said. And I'm not going to be held
07:04responsible for what she said. I'm paraphrasing. We never discussed what even happened.
07:09Okay, tell me what happened that warranted our trip ending with one of our friends, like,
07:17never wanting to be in the same room as you or you again. She holds both of you equally accountable.
07:22Well, that's weird. I was reacting to her, right, but the very malicious actions,
07:28most appropriate. And the reaction was not right time, not right place. I mean,
07:32girl, it was much more than wrong place, wrong time.
07:36I'm Meredith's friend, and I feel like Meredith was beyond upset.
07:41I was upset on the plane, venting to my friend, crying. Yeah, she was crying.
07:44Well, because what we all witnessed was different. It was like, you were taunting
07:48Brittany and calling her names. She didn't try it. It was all like to me.
07:52It was in earshot so that Brittany could hear it. It was all to me.
07:57Everything she said over the ear, headphones and a movie or something on.
08:00And she could still hear you. Meredith was absolutely diabolical on the airplane.
08:05There would be brief moments of peace, and then it would slowly pick up again,
08:09and it would kind of crescendo. She has ranges of emotion and tone and volume.
08:14We were in the disgusting and vile range for a solid two hours.
08:18You are vile. You utterly disgust me. The fact that these girls exacerbated this
08:25and just something that it wasn't is kind of bull .
08:29I vented on a plane to a friend for maybe 30 minutes, and suddenly I'm the bad guy?
08:38We were there, we heard it, and we were present. And if all of us are saying what we heard,
08:43and it's all lining up against what she said that she actually did, then here we are.
08:50If Brittany's hair was wet, we took care of Brittany after the fight,
08:54because she was hyperventilating, sobbing, because she was terrorized for five hours.
08:57Oh my gosh. Okay. Well, I slept and watched two movies,
09:00so it was not five hours. Try again. What movies did you watch?
09:04I watched Crazy Rich Asians, because we had the same- Yeah, Crazy Rich Asians,
09:09and one other movie I don't recall the name of.
09:15Then what happened at the end of Crazy Rich Asians?
09:18What? Are we really doing this? I don't remember.
09:20You think I remember? Well, I usually remember movies I watch. Do you?
09:25Crazy Rich Asians has a big ending. It's a big moment. You'll remember. Think of it.
09:29I honestly don't remember. Did you watch it? I did.
09:32How does it end? How did it end? He goes on the plane, and he stops everyone,
09:41and is like, I want to marry you. I was going to do it by a pond
09:47or something, and then that didn't happen. And then they have a big party for them.
09:51Is it good? And weren't there synchronized swimmers?
09:54No. So I obviously fell asleep before the end, because I didn't see that part.
09:59Were you sleep talking? No, I was not. Because I was awake the entire flight,
10:04and I could hear you the entire flight.
10:11Well, that's impossible. I heard you yelling back there. Five rows in front of you,
10:15and I heard you yelling. It's not true. She was sobbing because of what you were saying about her.
10:22You should support her. You were screaming, screaming horrific things. I was not screaming.
10:25And we all saw the same thing, Meredith. You lost it. I think Meredith has a right to, like,
10:31lose her s**t sometimes. Not on a plane. I think not with a friend. No, you know what?
10:34Sometimes with friends, and you can't hold your emotions in. Okay, so it's unforgivable.
10:37Everybody dealing with those feelings. It requires an apology.
10:42Do you feel bad that Brittany is upset? I already told her I feel bad that she's upset.
10:46You don't feel bad that Brittany's upset. I already told you.
10:48I feel badly that I hurt Brittany's feelings. Unfortunately, Brittany does not feel badly at
10:53all that she hurt my feelings. So there's nowhere to go. And at the end of the day,
11:01she doesn't like me, and I don't like her. We don't need to be friends. Everyone can move on.
11:06Feeling badly as s**r is different from s**r. Are you s**r you hurt her feelings?
11:10I'm s**r that she heard me venting and it hurt her. Yes, I am. Okay.
11:16But I am entitled to my feelings. You are. You are. Yeah, but Meredith,
11:19you lost the right to cry when you guys harassed her on the plane.
11:27I lost the right to my feelings? You lost the privilege to speak about it. Okay, well then
11:34you, that's great. Look at me. So stop talking to me then. A little more. A little more. Yes. Thank you.
11:41You told me I lost my privilege to speak. Okay, so hang me on the four words I said,
11:46because I'll explain why I said those words. I said them because I felt like we got on the plane
11:53having your back. And whatever happened on the plane swapped that right on its head. And it went to you
12:00and Lisa looking like bullies. You were mad. You were telling us all to take notes. And you left the plane,
12:07and you left the plane. And you guys did not seem upset at all. Brittany, however, had to be like
12:13physically carried through customs by us. So for me to say you lost your privilege
12:17to hang your hat on the victim, you did. Because whatever happened on the plane tipped the scales
12:23and you're in the wrong. Whatever happened on the plane tipped the scales and you're in the wrong.
12:41I lost my privilege to speak, so I won't speak. That's fine. For Heather not to give me benefit
13:00of the doubt and a little bit of grace is actually shocking. She should just be a human being and not
13:05a judgmental bitch. It is okay for you to be upset. Thank you. So Lisa, had I treated you like
13:14that on the plane, would you thought that was okay? I think she felt like, holy that was a nightmare.
13:20And I don't know how I'm going to navigate my way out of this. I did not feel that at all.
13:24Why didn't you go through customs with this?
13:25I actually have global entry and should have used it.
13:37Wait, you have global entry? I didn't realize that. I was like, it's not on my app or anything,
13:42so I didn't realize it. It wasn't on my ticket. I don't know why.
13:44Because we had to stand in line for a minute. I like this lie because it's so obvious that she's lying.
13:49You don't add global entry to your ticket. Global entry is something that you have.
13:54You're identified as this person. It's not like TSA pre-check on your ticket.
13:59It's not something that you forget to add. It's something that you don't have, Lisa.
14:04Like, why didn't you use it? You did not use it. I didn't realize it until I was in the line.
14:07But then you stayed in line by yourself for five hours and didn't use it?
14:14Don't worry about it. Why didn't you stay by Britney, though?
14:17Um, I needed space. I had my AirPods in and I was listening to Kendrick Lamar.
14:22Not Kendrick. The way I was saying, I do love Kendrick. I'm a Kendrick girl.
14:26But Lisa, we were all there. I can't imagine having to sit next to Meredith in that moment of rage.
14:33I'm not attacking you. I don't think you are. I really not. I love you. I care about you.
14:43And, you know, you were hurt. And I know that.
14:46I didn't have a lot of support at that point. Meredith, we love you.
14:53We support you. I supported you in that moment. I did not like what Britney did to you.
14:59And I think everyone would agree. Meredith, I mean, you basically said to me,
15:04if I pick Britney and side with Britney when you're hurting, we're done.
15:08I don't want to feel like that with you. I didn't say we're done.
15:10I said it was noted.
15:11But that's exactly what Britney said to you. Like, if you're going to side with Meredith.
15:15I know, but I can add to this. I didn't threaten you.
15:17That's exactly what Britney said. I just said, I'm aware of that. Okay, I see it.
15:21If you're going to side with Britney, it's noted. So, that's not what was said to Lisa.
15:24Lisa was threatened. She said, I'm going to come for you if you don't agree with me.
15:27No, she said, I'm going to have a problem with you if you don't agree with me.
15:30But you did say, one thing you did say in a very classy way was like,
15:35In a classy way? No, no, no. She basically said it's you or Britney to her.
15:40You did say that. I did not say that.
15:42Thank you. Okay, thank you. Yeah, I did not say that.
15:46Did it ever occur to you that maybe some of the things your friends are saying
15:50did come out of your mouth because you were emotional and that's okay?
15:53I know what I said.
15:55Well, why does Mary, Heather, and Whitney have the same story?
15:59And then you have a different story.
16:01I'm just trying to understand what happened.
16:03The only thing they're saying is that I asked Whitney for the TikTok.
16:05Why don't we stop playing the game of Clue and just say,
16:07Hey, they didn't like your behavior. They didn't like that you were upset.
16:11That's the bottom line. It is. But you did not stop. You didn't.
16:14Well, that's just not possible because I slept and everything.
16:17The fact that you don't remember concerns me. It really does.
16:20I do remember. Yeah, I do remember. I got on the plane.
16:23I vented to Lisa for a little bit. I put on a movie. I fell asleep. I woke up.
16:27No, I was venting to a friend.
16:28Meredith, I don't know if you remember everything now.
16:30And I've said, okay, I really am.
16:32It sounds like you're not remembering it.
16:33I'm not going to go back and forth on all this. I remember everything.
16:35And I'm not saying that.
16:36I'm just saying, I don't know what you're saying behind my back.
16:40So let's not go there, Whitney.
16:43She's not saying anything behind your back.
16:47I have not said anything behind your back except for voicing my concern about the situation.
16:51I guess I have misinformation, perhaps.
16:53You know, there's one person that I talked to who said something to Meredith.
17:00Uh-oh.
17:01I'll tell you.
17:03If Meredith doesn't want to, I will.
17:06You and I had lunch, and I talked to Meredith, and I said, what happened on the plane?
17:11She told me her side, and I said, well, it's being told to me that they saw you
17:15drinking in the club before you got on the plane.
17:19Did you see her drinking at the airport or on the plane?
17:21Yeah, in the airport lounge.
17:22Drinking on the plane, and it's being said that maybe you don't remember what you said, what you did.
17:29She told me she watched a movie.
17:32She went to sleep.
17:33Does she not remember?
17:34She blacked out.
17:35I do not have a substance abuse problem.
17:37I haven't even said that to you.
17:38And, Bronwyn, what were the implications that you walked away from the conversation?
17:43You were drinking heavily, and you didn't remember.
17:49Do you want to know how I feel?
17:50I'll tell you.
17:51I think it could be of three things, okay?
17:54So, either you have hatred in your heart.
17:58You have an anger problem.
18:00I don't have an anger problem.
18:01Or you have a problem mixing substances.
18:04Do you think it's fair that based on what I witnessed, I would assume those three things?
18:09No, because what you're saying you witnessed, I don't believe, and you're a known liar.
18:13Look, I think it sounds like you were wrong on the plane.
18:17I've tried to be supportive of you.
18:18I've tried to ask a lot of questions, and I tried to have your back
18:21because I thought that was a step too far.
18:23And I appreciate that.
18:24But then you outed it at this table.
18:26No, I gave her a chance to tell me herself, and she didn't.
18:29I never said a word.
18:31I never said what it was, and I never said who said it.
18:33Now I've damaged my relationship with Whitney, trying to help you.
18:38You do realize you were wrong, right?
18:41I mean, you feel like you were wrong.
18:43I was reacting to her behavior.
18:48What more is it you want from me?
18:50I don't know what I'm going to do with Brittany.
18:53So, that's all I can say for now.
18:55You don't have to have the answer, you know?
18:56Yeah.
19:13Here you go.
19:13I'm not my coordination.
19:15You get it.
19:15That's it.
19:16Yeah, yeah.
19:19Good.
19:20Yeah.
19:21Pull it.
19:24Pull it like your life depends on it.
19:26If you can talk, that means you're not working out hard enough.
19:29I don't agree with that.
19:31You're skiing.
19:33You're going down a mountain.
19:35The snow is hitting you in the front.
19:36Good.
19:37Nice.
19:37There you go.
19:37You're just soaking up the sand.
19:39Okay.
19:45On the top shelf there is a, like a pink, um, what is that called?
19:49A whisk.
19:50A whisk.
19:51Yeah, thank you.
19:52I was emailing this morning with my attorney about my citizenship.
19:56Oh, what's happening with that?
19:57Surprise!
19:58I am not actually an American citizen.
20:01I was born in Brazil and my parents are from the UK.
20:04So, I had dual citizenship in both.
20:07And a few years ago, I decided I wanted to become a US citizen and get to vote.
20:11And honestly, I might be the only person in America excited about jury duty.
20:14I have an outfit in mind.
20:15I'm very ready to do my duty.
20:18My siblings were all born here.
20:20They all got their U.S. passports automatically.
20:21And then we had an oops.
20:25You can't call me an oops to my face, Missy.
20:32Hi.
20:32Oh my gosh.
20:33What do you think of the office?
20:34Stop.
20:34You guys haven't seen it yet, have you?
20:35Grand new office.
20:37What?
20:37I know.
20:38I've been working hard on it.
20:39When did you get all this stuff?
20:41Where's it from?
20:42I ordered it all from Wayfair, all from the same place.
20:44Sit in the chairs, they swivel.
20:46I can hardly recognize my life right now.
20:49I lived in this small home for 20 years, raised my kids there.
20:52Yeah, do a passe.
20:54Oh, get it.
20:56Now, I have this huge house with my own office with a pool and three daughters going to college.
21:02So, I can be here and I can be watching my birds.
21:06Wait, are you using bird glasses right now?
21:08Well, they're not bird glasses.
21:09They're called binoculars.
21:11That's my bad.
21:12And it's totally rewarding and fulfilling in a way that I never imagined.
21:18But I also noticed that the binoculars work on the pool boys.
21:22Oh.
21:23There's something about manual labor that just is fascinating.
21:26You are fascinated by this.
21:28Shouldn't pool boys be in swimsuits?
21:30Like, overage for a pool boy.
21:31Oh, yeah.
21:32Well, he's a pool man.
21:42Hey, Mare.
21:54Hi.
21:55How are you?
21:55Oh, you have it all ready for me.
21:56I'm good.
21:57How are you?
21:57I love this.
21:58I have had the craziest work day.
22:00Is there someone that can do my nail while I'm here, too?
22:03I broke one yesterday and it's driving me nuts.
22:07I'm so busy with work and slammed and all this nonsense with everyone from the lunch.
22:13I literally am like, what was that?
22:16I know.
22:17I was the most surprised by Heather.
22:19I don't expect her to take my side, but I expected a little bit of support as a friend.
22:25I felt like she was leading the charge against me.
22:29She had the biggest problem.
22:30Me and you, yeah.
22:31She was a judge and jury.
22:33That was weird, but quite frankly, not as big of an issue to me as Whitney.
22:38Why is she sitting there trying to judge my mental health and my drinking?
22:45These are damaging false rumors to spread about somebody.
22:49When did Whitney get a degree in psych?
22:52Is she a psychologist now?
22:53For a woman who's on every journey under the sun from healing to religion to whatever,
22:59I think she should focus on herself.
23:03Like, why is she focusing on me?
23:05How do you plan to move forward with Whitney?
23:08I don't.
23:10It seems to me like they're trying to exacerbate the situation with Britney.
23:15I had a conversation with Britney.
23:16I met up with Britney.
23:17Oh, how did that go?
23:19She emotionally feels like she experienced a lot.
23:26So we really haven't talked since the trip.
23:29What I've been hearing, which is that you don't feel like you contributed to me.
23:33I don't.
23:34I feel like you were absolutely as complicit as the person accosting me.
23:39Well, I think your recollection of what happened on the flight is inaccurate.
23:43How?
23:43I feel like I was helping you out whether you want to believe it or not.
23:47It was literally like the sixth worst thing that has ever happened to me in my entire life.
23:52Is there anything that you can actually say, I'm sorry, Britney, for not dot dot dot?
23:59But I did apologize to you.
24:02I feel badly that you didn't feel like I was supporting you when I felt like I was.
24:07I feel like we're in a good space.
24:10We're never going to agree on what happened on the plane.
24:14That's never going to happen.
24:15But I do feel bad that her feelings were hurt.
24:17Here's the thing, Lisa.
24:18As far as it goes with Britney, I'm sorry for her.
24:22Yeah, she felt like sorry for her as a human being, period.
24:26And that's why I'm just going to be the bigger person and move on.
24:29Has she been horrible to me?
24:30Yes.
24:31Yes.
24:31But do I feel sorry for Britney that she can't hold a relationship?
24:35She's, you know, struggles professionally.
24:37One hundred percent.
24:38It's kind of like just a sad specimen.
24:40She was asking me how you feel.
24:41And I said, I think you should talk to Meredith.
24:43I'm happy to talk to Britney.
24:47Hey, Siri, call Heather Gay.
25:09What's up, babe?
25:10I'm on my way.
25:11Do you have a truck?
25:13It's so big.
25:14So I need you to come out in your driveway and help guide me in, okay?
25:23Ah, .
25:27Pull straight.
25:28Towards you?
25:29Yeah, pull straight.
25:30I can back up, too.
25:32No, we're clear.
25:33Just go fast.
25:35Why fast?
25:35Keep going.
25:36Fast, fast, fast.
25:37All right, I'm on the wall.
25:38Faster, faster.
25:39Wait, don't hit the mailbox.
25:40Stop.
25:41Back it up.
25:42And then perfect.
25:44Stop.
25:45Stop.
25:46Are we going to a funeral?
25:47Yeah, it's the funeral of the mattress.
25:49I did not want to keep my marital mattress for 20 years because of some sentimental feeling.
25:56I was just frozen in time.
25:58And it's starting to rain, which I think is appropriate.
26:01Tears from heaven.
26:02It's cleansing.
26:03Look, this is not a mattress tossing.
26:06This is a funeral.
26:07Let's do this.
26:08Okay.
26:09It's a funeral for the life that is now gone forever.
26:13I think I just broke the box springs with my heels.
26:15Well, yeah, you're aerating the box springs.
26:17It's going to pierce.
26:18I've got to get the shoes off.
26:19Give me some balance.
26:21Oh, my gosh.
26:21Don't worry about me.
26:23Let's turn it around so that the stained sides are not on the camera.
26:27Okay.
26:28Turn it this way.
26:30Look away.
26:32Oh, I'm not going to look.
26:34I killed a few men on this mattress.
26:36It looks like you killed more than a few men on here.
26:38And a few chickens.
26:39Okay.
26:39Rest assured, these are not sex stains, okay?
26:42We got momentum.
26:43Not one sperm was spilt on the mattress.
26:47Go way low, Whitney.
26:49Whoa!
26:50God does not like waste, and I was a good Mormon.
26:54This mattress went from our very first apartment in Huntington Beach to our first house for 20 years,
27:00and then to this house.
27:02This wrote two books.
27:03This bore three babies.
27:06This lived 14 years of marriage.
27:08Yeah, I saw it.
27:09And now it's time?
27:11It's time.
27:11For something new.
27:12I'm sure there's a metaphor somewhere in there, but like, I'm keeping my expectations low.
27:17Do you have the address?
27:18Yes, I do on my phone.
27:20It's a mattress recycling place.
27:22I just want a bed to sleep on that isn't stained with 20 years of broken dreams.
27:28So, Valters.
27:30Valters.
27:30I know.
27:33Have you seen her, Meredith?
27:35I haven't seen her talk to either of them since lunch.
27:37I mean, Meredith has been a solid friendship for me for years, and so I just have never been at war with her.
27:45I've never been really in a situation where I didn't know how to defend her.
27:50But right now, she's put me not only at odds with her, but at odds with, you know, the future of our friendship.
27:56I'm her scapegoat.
27:58I've realized this.
27:59Like, she always just has to have someone to be mad at and to point the blame.
28:04But I genuinely am concerned for her.
28:07I'm worried that she really did black out.
28:09I've told you many times in private, like, it reminds me of what my dad was like.
28:14It's got to be so triggering.
28:15It is.
28:17When someone blacks out, from my experience, it's usually a mix of alcohol, drugs,
28:24or a bad combination of prescriptions that you shouldn't have.
28:27So by Meredith not taking accountability, that's another trigger for me of dealing with addicts in my life.
28:32Like, my father for years never had a problem.
28:36And it just sucks because I was fully planning on talking to Meredith and telling her my concerns for her as her friend.
28:42I would have never, ever told Bronwyn what I experienced on the plane
28:46had I know that little coward would run straight to her like a venomous, hungry snake.
28:53Thanks.
29:02Hi.
29:07Hi.
29:07Hi.
29:11I like your outfit.
29:12I like yours.
29:13You look so pretty.
29:14Thanks.
29:20Perfect.
29:20i'm still recovering from what happened to me on the plane ride i'm still very raw but it did give
29:28me clarity on what i need to focus on right now and that is reconnecting with olivia brady yes hi
29:36welcome to purple sky i'm ashley we need some professional help thanks why don't you share
29:43with me kind of what brings the two of you here today do you want to go ahead do you want me to go
29:49or do you want to go um i mean i don't even i don't even know where to begin that's the problem it's
29:54like things were good until she divorced my dad okay and that's fine that had its own hardships
30:02but she did get married fairly quickly he was kind of her whole world and we weren't her priority
30:13we weren't even close to being her priority when she married her second husband she honestly became
30:21more of a mom to my new step siblings than to me and my sister because she wanted her husband to
30:29appreciate her more love her more and i moved out of my mom's house to live with my dad we didn't talk for
30:36a while from my perspective it was seven years of her neglecting her children she put all of her
30:47time and attention into her new step kids like she would celebrate their wins but then not ours
30:56and just kind of left my sister and i i feel like we have a connection and so even though like
31:04you haven't done and made the best decisions i still find myself wanting a relationship with you
31:13yeah but my brain's telling me that i'm gonna get hurt more than i'm gonna get any love out of it
31:22i wish there was some way to tell her that i've learned that i've grown and maybe that's why i want
31:27to understand why i did that because i don't feel like i would ever do that again i would never ever ever
31:33like allow myself to be put in the cage where i can't be a mom to my kids well i mean i think what
31:39the two of you are describing right is like a really good representation of trauma that's what it is
31:45right it's this realization of even if it's different this time it feels the same even if it's not yes so
31:52if you could tell me like what is the number one goal for you and coming and working on your relationship
31:57what would it be i don't want anything for me i just want you to have what you need for you to move
32:03on but that's not how family therapy works like you get things too
32:09like you're just as deserving as her to like move on and heal from what happened in your relationship
32:14i just don't feel like i am i don't feel like i'm worthy of anything for some reason i feel the same
32:22way what like i feel like
32:27i lived so many years thinking that i wasn't lovable and i feel like i often struggle with that and so
32:35like letting people get close is hard and i just feel like
32:39like the second they get to know me they're just gonna leave again that's heartbreaking because she
32:47like has so much to give and if i had only made different choices
32:53my kids wouldn't be wouldn't have any of this trauma
32:57i really appreciate taking accountability that way obviously the goal is to rebuild the relationship
33:01together but i'm curious do you think you have forgiven yourself no i haven't at all i can't
33:08yet i can't even like begin to describe like the remorse and the self-loathing i feel what's it
33:17like for you to hear your mom say that like she doesn't forgive herself weirdly enough it feels kind
33:23of like reassuring to hear that she does realize that what she did was wrong and because i feel like
33:33your response to a lot of things is to shove it under the rug and act like everything's perfect and
33:40we're a perfect family and we have a perfect relationship to hear her take accountability
33:48actually makes me feel better
33:49i just appreciate you wanting to give me a chance it means the world to me thanks
34:02okay do you get it now bonsai bye me i was trying to explain it to you and i knew you were not
34:17understanding it but i didn't get it goodbye hi hi how are you i'm bronwyn hi my mom margie and my daughter
34:26glenn hi guys welcome in this first part's a little tricky you got to find the tree that really
34:32calls to you bonsai is all about the beauty that you see in the tree and once you've found your
34:37special tree we'll meet you back at your table we'll make a really big mess okay okay are we all
34:42making a plan for your room one for my chameleon and one for me first step with your chopstick open
34:47up the root base how loose does it need to be hers feels pretty loose i'm not a very zen person
34:52should we have a conversation with her you're done but with everything that's going on with my
34:57parents and then todd and after mary's lunch i need some zen in my life i probably shouldn't have
35:03worn valentino to sit here and do this so i'm hoping that these bonsai trees are little miracle
35:09workers how many chameleons do you think could hit it could handle she's talking about breeding her
35:14chameleon now no i don't want to breed him he's been looking for a mate he has been how do you know
35:21he's looking for a mate sticks his penis out and walks around so i'm thinking i was going to post
35:27something somewhere of being like are there any female chameleons in the area and set him like a
35:32little date so he can just get it out of his i think i should but it's not here okay so where is it
35:44portland what are you going to do in portland i don't know i just think it's a cool place
35:50like you told me you didn't want to go to byu and you wish you could have gone to new york and
35:54done the things you wanted to do and like have a new experience yeah so like i have to have a new
36:00experience i have to figure it out for myself too you can't just stay in the same spot wise woman i
36:06really have never been alone i literally went from my parents house to a very short stint at college and
36:12then gwen i think it's long past time that i was an adult by myself but gwen's just more excited about
36:18spreading her wings in that way than i am muddy you're staying with me forever no i'm not ready to
36:25to peace out on you guys because i need i need some time but i i need to find my own space is it todd
36:32did todd upset you because i can get rid of him i want to see that i think todd's gonna get rid of you
36:38by all means don't tempt me with a good time okay honestly i know you're laughing but it's really
36:46uncool that the two of you have planned this at the same time to do this she can come visit me
36:50dessert me i brought you here to make bonsai trees why does that hurt your feelings no one says that
36:56they hate you they're just saying that you have to like experience new things okay you're not wrong
37:01it's just it's just hard and i don't want to i don't want to leave she thinks all the best days
37:07of her life are still ahead of her and these were the best days of my life was her being with yeah
37:11it's not that i don't want you guys i want you to be comfortable and i want her to go do all the
37:15things she wants to do and try all the things she wants to do but i do feel like i'm being left behind
37:23i have really put so much into showing up for my mom when she was sick showing up for her when she
37:30needed help with my dad and i feel like we've just gotten to a good place and i kind of settled
37:35into a routine and we can be giggly how many times are people going to accuse todd of cheating
37:40on me before i say i need somebody to tell me what's going on here it's like lucy la ball you got
37:44some splaying to do okay you want to try blowing out your candles oh oh muzzy did it for you muzzy's such
37:53a sneak she did it for you huh we're having these nice moments and i just kind of feel like the
37:58progress that we've just made it's like slipping through my fingers if she moves out when you were
38:03coming back and forth from san francisco to utah on the weekends yeah i knew that someday you'd be
38:10moving oh and it was hard i know so you know it was hard so don't do it to me you know what i mean
38:20yeah oh my gosh i'm just working on my bon time i know you're sobbing i know she's just they're
38:26playing we're done i feel like i'm gonna tanya harding both of you i'm gonna break both of you's
38:30legs and then when the two of you are like oh we can't take care of ourselves we have to stay here
38:34i'll be like shocking news muzzy wants to bring her secret boyfriend over i swear to god if that was
38:39the problem i would be so much already told me about it my friend i have a husband what do you mean
38:45i would so support this for her muzzy muzzy do it no thank you
39:09hi britney hi meredith reached out to me and asked me to meet up with her i want to hear if
39:21she's willing to own any of what happened if she's willing to give me some sort of apology i'm more
39:29than willing to own my part of it thank you for coming here today yeah it's really pretty yeah
39:36i wanted you to come today because i wanted to talk to you face to face
39:44i wanted to tell you that i am uh sorry that you heard me talking to lisa on the plane
39:53and that it was definitely the wrong place the wrong time
39:58and i feel terribly that i hurt your feelings i don't want to do that
40:02so i'm sorry for that
40:09you know i try to treat people with kindness and respect and um
40:18i don't feel like it's been an easy path for us you know i think it's been a little bit difficult and
40:24so i'm hopeful that we can move forward and you know at a bare minimum treat each other with kindness and respect
40:34yeah um
40:39thank you thank you for that apology that means a lot
40:42i still feel hurt and traumatized but i've been thinking a lot about forgiveness lately i've been asking
40:48for forgiveness in my own life so i'm choosing for myself to forgive meredith for what she did
40:55i mean i'm not aware of the intricacies and the nuances of your relationship
41:02and i think it was really
41:07it was a shady thing to do to bring up the tick tock
41:10and i i realized that it was a trigger for you and i'm sorry to be clear the real trigger
41:21was that you came in under the premise that you were trying to help me when you were trying to hurt
41:25me yeah you're right so i appreciate you being honest about that that is actually means a lot i
41:33didn't expect that yeah you're welcome i apologize that her feelings were hurt she apologized for
41:40intentionally hurting me with the tick tock so i'll take that move on in peace it's hard to have
41:47such contention because everyone's been really torn this last week and it's been a big it's been a big
41:54deal and i don't want it to be a thing anymore i i completely agree i don't know if we'll ever get there
42:00but um i think this civility right let's start the bar of that civility is a good place to start
42:09baby step baby step it's a baby step yeah
42:17next time on the real housewives of salt lake city do you think i can drive in this you don't drive
42:22that well when you're not in that i don't want to ever do business with my husband again
42:30wow you're a liar alcoholic pill popper can i get more alcohol that's a shame it comes to this
42:39i brought everybody a gift multi-drug urine test cup
42:55you
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