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00:00So did Demi tell you to say that you slept with Jessie since you're saying she told you what to
00:07say to Layla? Yeah. Demi has been so shady about everything. We knew there was something more there.
00:16I was like, dude, I don't feel good about this. And she's like, no, like you need to double down
00:21and like go even harder about the entire thing. And I'm like, I just feel manipulated because
00:25Demi's telling me what to say to Layla. And she was like hyping up, oh, we'll do the show together,
00:30all this shit. And she's not even filming. I'm curious why you're like entertaining with her.
00:36Is it because it's like, there's still something between the two of you. So you feel like a loyalty
00:40to her. The main thing was like the fact that, you know, we had a really good friendship relationship
00:45and I thought I could trust her. I was very like naive. I feel a huge weight lifted off of me,
00:53not only for me, but for Jessie and for mom talk. But I think it's completely messed up if Demi was
00:59coaching Marciano in this situation with Jessie. Let's end it on this. So with Jessie, did you go
01:04into the night wanting to have sex or you thought that's what was going to happen? I guess why did
01:10you take? That's crazy. Why did you take the Cialis? That's what we want to know. I was intoxicated and
01:15the last thing I wanted was stage fright. I don't have erectile dysfunction if everybody fucking cares.
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02:15Success baby and that's how it's done ladies call Jesse and let's tell her success
02:35Should we act like we didn't get it. Yeah, I was like, oh, it was so bad
02:45Okay, hey, okay, how did this go? It wasn't very good
02:53I knew it. I knew it. He said that you're lying
02:56Tell us everything tell us everything he told us
03:16Really not hold anything back. That's
03:20What the fuck like so she was like puppet master behind the scenes. That's what he said Jesse
03:25He told us every on everything. I was not expecting him to he was holding strong on the on the
03:32We kept asking we're like, so did you kiss and he's like a fit? Yeah
03:37Wait, like he admitted he kissed to me
03:42On the lips when they said goodbye
03:46I cannot believe this like what the fuck to me
03:50This whole thing is just so
03:53Messy like I don't want someone like that in my life anymore. It's just my card was up the second. I heard about contracts
03:59Oh, for sure. I'm really shocked right now. I know she's upset. We're not friends anymore because of the big mom talk meeting
04:05How can you guys be friends with something? She's disgusting. This is between you two for sure
04:09I agree. I was watching someone treat my friend and talk to knowing the type of person I am
04:16I would be defending each and every single one of you
04:21Demi was really upset that I didn't back her a hundred percent
04:24She continued to rage text me and I sent her a voice memo and I just said I wasn't interested in a friendship
04:29And then I blocked her on everything and so yes, we're not friends anymore, but I'm just disgusted by this behavior
04:34I'm just so relieved that like now you guys know wow
04:37Well, we got to the bottom of it
04:39We did it
04:46I see you looking, looking, looking, looking, looking
04:48I don't mean it's fine if you are flirting, flirting, flirting, flirting
04:52Okay
04:56How are you guys? Thanks for coming
04:59Oh my gosh, you look so good
05:02It's another busy week for mom talk with events tonight is jesse's party for her house of oils collab and I heard that taylor's supposed to come
05:09So i'm really excited to see her especially this mom talk is going on a quick little trip. We're going to st. George, utah
05:15We just need a good weekend to relax and stop worrying about all the happening
05:22Okay, these shoes are amazing
05:32We like don't hug
05:34I was in the car for six hours like I just saw you wait, you don't know you're gonna be fucking shocked
05:44There's just a lot that has gone down
05:47Yet again, it's crickets and uh joke's over let's let's uh spill the tea okay
05:53It's getting cold
05:54Hey, I wanted to tell you something
05:56Can you take a video of me and part of her in the back
06:00Okay
06:02I remember we talked about this the other night
06:04I used to have to be careful because she's still
06:06Is she still close with me? She is so when Layla said that it was kind of like
06:08Yeah, I don't know if I can trust her
06:10If she's closest with me
06:13It makes me feel like she would just do that
06:14That's what I'm worried about
06:16I was just talking about how maybe you don't want to tell Miranda everything that happened
06:18Maybe I'm just like breathing out
06:20Oh no, you're right, you're right
06:22You're like, what are you doing?
06:24Oh my god
06:26No, yeah, no
06:28Congrats
06:30Thank you, I know, it was so fun
06:32I know, it was really cool, it was really fun
06:34Oh you heard about me
06:36I'd run this town
06:38Taylor's interview, take one
06:40All you other bitches, quiet on set
06:42Taylor
06:44This is my room, this is MomTalk
06:48So I'm excited to be back
06:50I love it
06:52I love it
06:54I'm so excited to see Taylor
06:56I hope that she can finally move forward healing herself
06:58And it's just so nice to have her back
07:00I feel like MomTalk finally feels whole again
07:06How was the retreat?
07:08Tell us everything, how long were you there for?
07:1011 days
07:11Oh my gosh
07:12Every single, did you have any rest days?
07:14It was every single day talking about it
07:15Oh, every day from like 9am to like almost 10pm
07:18Yeah
07:19I learned a lot of tools
07:20I just, you know, apply that
07:22But that's good, I'm glad you got something out of it
07:24Cause I think you needed time for yourself just to reset
07:26And like, oh, it was the best thing ever
07:28MomTalk has been this small
07:30Jen, she's still in Arizona
07:32Yeah
07:33Demi and Whitney
07:34Oh, I know
07:35I'm surprised, maybe they're gonna have surprises here
07:37Oh, Demi would be
07:38She's like, this is my party
07:39I'm like, this is my event
07:41Before I left on the retreat
07:42I did hear that Demi and Whitney had left MomTalk
07:46And the show due to contracts
07:48Also, I just learned about Jesse and Marciano's
07:51Ordeal, affair, whatever's happened
07:53I can't ever say his name, Marciano, Marciano
07:56Whatever that guy's name
07:57But Demi?
07:58Demi?
07:59Yes
08:00Jesse cheating on Jordan with him
08:03I do feel like MomTalk is in a fragile state
08:05But I am ready to step back into this with the girls
08:09I just hope I'm ready for all the drama
08:12One, two, three
08:13Hey hoes
08:15Hey
08:17Fantasy
08:18Hey
08:19Reality
08:20Hey
08:21Watch me
08:22Hey
08:23Tighten up
08:24Bankroll
08:25Shoot your shot
08:27Hanging in there, it's really hard
08:29The fact that this is now coming out
08:30And I'm having to face friends
08:32Is hell
08:33At this point, Zach doesn't know,
08:35and I'm going to have to tell him.
08:38What's up, bro?
08:39You need a spot?
08:41Just a little one.
08:4365s?
08:45Exactly.
08:48What's up, dude?
08:49How are you?
08:50Good.
08:51I know, it's been too long.
08:52Jen is getting back into MomTalk next week,
08:55and so I do feel like it's important
08:57that I hang out with the husbands
08:58and be part of DadTalk.
09:00Who would have thought,
09:01but despite him giving my wife a lap dance,
09:03Jordan and I have become buddies,
09:05and I never thought I'd be admitting this,
09:07but Jordan has convinced me to make TikToks.
09:18I'm slightly embarrassed,
09:19but I'm trying to just embrace it.
09:21I definitely have a lot to tell you
09:23what's been going on with Jesse and I,
09:24and dude, it's been hell.
09:26Oh, yeah?
09:27So you obviously know what happened
09:29when the girls went to Italy.
09:31Kind of what Jen told you about with Demi
09:35and Marciano.
09:39I'm gonna take a seat for this.
09:40It feels heavy.
09:43So Jesse went out to LA.
09:45She's drinking,
09:45and that night she kissed Marciano.
09:49Damn, dude. Wow.
09:50He started giving her the attention
09:52that she felt as though she was lacking
09:54and basically started an emotional affair from there.
09:57And he came out and, you know,
10:00and told Layla that him and Jesse had sex.
10:04How confident are you that that didn't happen?
10:07I'm 100% confident.
10:08Marciano came clean about what actually happened.
10:11I'm relieved for my family to have it out there
10:14that he lied.
10:16I'm absolutely disgusted
10:17that he would manipulate
10:20to potentially ruin a family.
10:23I'm here for you,
10:25and I'll be honest with you,
10:25it's probably gonna get harder
10:27before it gets better
10:28because it's one thing to live it in real life,
10:31and then you get to relive it
10:32with all the judgments of the world.
10:35I want to say that I'm in the right headspace,
10:37but dude, it is an uphill battle.
10:39Dude, I feel for you.
10:41I'm not gonna lie to you.
10:42There was a period
10:42where I didn't think it was gonna last.
10:45With Jen, there was a time
10:47when Jen had honestly, like,
10:49fallen out of love with me
10:50just because of, honestly,
10:51like, the way, like, I treated her.
10:52Like, for so much of our marriage,
10:54she's had to show up for me.
10:55Like, it's always been, like,
10:56what's next for Zach?
10:57It wasn't until she had that, like,
10:58honest, like, mental breakdown,
11:00and it got really bad, dude.
11:02And it was the first time
11:03that I was able to be there for her
11:05and show her, like, this unconditional love.
11:07I think when she saw that
11:08and that I was willing to, like,
11:09fight for whatever,
11:10that's when she was like,
11:10okay, I want to fight for him, too.
11:12My biggest worries with Jen coming back
11:14and being part of MomTalk
11:15would be there's just so much drama.
11:17And so it makes it hard to support the group
11:19when I do feel like our relationship
11:21would possibly be in a better place
11:23without MomTalk.
11:25And so I guess we'll see what happens.
11:28It sucks, dude.
11:29Yeah.
11:29But at the same time,
11:31I made that commitment
11:32and I'm willing to step up,
11:35take accountability for my part
11:36and the mistakes that have been made
11:37and try to make this work.
11:40Yeah.
11:40Tonight's the Jet Set event for ACTA
12:02and some of the girls aren't coming tonight
12:03because we're going to St. George, Utah
12:06tomorrow for the girls' trip
12:07and there's a chance that Demi is going to be there.
12:10Demi has been texting me a lot
12:11asking if we're going to be filming tonight
12:13at the event
12:14and I've just been ignoring her.
12:16Didn't Demi message you
12:17that she was possibly going to come tonight?
12:18She even said something about,
12:20she was like,
12:20I texted Camille
12:21and Camille said she might come by.
12:23Back when MomTalk first started
12:25making her videos together,
12:26Camille was one of, like, the OG girls.
12:29I definitely think it's kind of a dig
12:31for Demi to show up tonight with Camille,
12:33especially because Camille
12:34isn't necessarily in the best place with Taylor.
12:37Camille was never involved in any of the swinging,
12:39but just how Taylor handled everything,
12:41I don't think Camille liked that.
12:43She can't stay in hiding for forever, you know?
12:45I just want to know why she would be in hiding.
12:49But no one wants to tell me.
12:51I can't tell you shit.
12:53Do I have to find out through Jessie specifically?
12:56Should I text Jessie and be like,
12:57can I just tell you?
12:58I did.
13:00I asked her.
13:01She has her phone with me.
13:02I'm very confused about what's going on.
13:04I just know that there's something going on with Demi,
13:06but I don't really know what it is.
13:08I want to be able to formulate an opinion for myself,
13:10and I don't want to give Demi the cold shoulder
13:13if I don't personally feel like it's warranted yet.
13:16Who wants to take a picture of us?
13:18Anyone?
13:18Can you take a picture of me and Miranda
13:19really quick on my camera?
13:21Oh, that's your camera.
13:22No.
13:22Oh, my God.
13:26I'm glad you guys are asking me
13:27because I'm going to push the record button
13:28three times before I push the right one.
13:31I'll teach you.
13:32I'll teach you the ways.
13:41Wait, there's Demi.
13:42Oh, no.
13:47She doesn't know that you're not talking to her.
13:49I didn't respond to her last text to me.
13:52Oh, she just looked over at me,
13:53and I glared at her.
13:54Why is Demi here
13:55when she literally isn't filming anymore?
13:56She sees the cameras in front of her face,
13:58but she's still continuing to come into the party.
14:03We've all seen Demi take down anyone
14:05that comes into her path,
14:06so I'm honestly kind of scared.
14:08I don't know what the hell's going on.
14:08Oh, my God.
14:10Oh, my God.
14:10Oh, my God.
14:12Oh, my God.
14:13Oh, my God.
14:13Oh, my God.
14:13Oh, my God.
14:14Oh, my God.
14:15Oh, my God.
14:16Oh, my God.
14:17Oh, my God.
14:18Oh, my God.
14:19Oh, my God.
14:20Oh, my God.
14:21We should go take a picture by the plane
14:37before my night is ruined in two seconds,
14:40because I'm about to go off on somebody.
14:41I'm definitely at a loss of what to do right now
14:43with this situation.
14:44I don't necessarily want to talk to her,
14:46and I think avoiding her in this very small, intimate space
14:49is going to be nearly impossible.
14:51I'm getting a little bit nervous.
14:53Hi, guys.
14:54Hi.
15:01What the hell?
15:02What are you doing?
15:03I don't...
15:05You don't what?
15:09I'm, like, pretty fucking pissed at me.
15:11Why?
15:12I know you did, dude.
15:14What?
15:15What?
15:16No.
15:17We're not going to do this.
15:18No.
15:19We're not going to do this.
15:20I genuinely don't know what you're talking about.
15:21Demi, a friend doesn't do what you did.
15:22Demi.
15:23About what?
15:24And I'm pissed.
15:25Of what?
15:26I'm not going to say it right now in front of everyone,
15:27because it's going to expose Jesse.
15:28Okay.
15:29And come over here.
15:30Demi, you know what you did.
15:31Why are you playing dumb?
15:32I don't know what the fuck you're talking about.
15:33Really?
15:34No, I really, genuinely do not know what you're talking about.
15:36You haven't been conspiring with Marcion.
15:38No.
15:39And threatening him to say that they want sex
15:41to make it worse for him.
15:42I did not conspire with Marcion.
15:44Really?
15:45Yes.
15:46That's not what he's saying.
15:47Like, are you my friend or Marcion's friend?
15:49I'm not Marcion's friend.
15:50I'm Jesse's friend.
15:51And you're not my friend?
15:52From what I heard, I don't want to be your friend.
15:54Why are you being so bitchy to me right now, though?
15:56Because of...
15:57Instead of having a cordial conversation as my friend,
15:59if you were my friend, I would have called you
16:01and I would have said...
16:02I don't want to...
16:03From what I heard, I don't want to call you Demi.
16:04Let's go ahead and go to a text message
16:06where I literally go to him and say...
16:10I literally say, do not do it.
16:13It's like premeditated murder.
16:17You set everything up and then you decided to walk away
16:19right before the act was done
16:20and you're going to act like you're innocent.
16:28Okay, I say...
16:33I think it's very strange that Demi just has messages
16:36and essays and pages and pages and messages
16:39between her and Marciono.
16:40I do feel like her saying that she told Marciono
16:43to back out of the situation is bullshit.
16:45A lot of messages to me.
16:46Yeah, of course, I was getting filled in.
16:48So I said...
16:49Why?
16:50Like, that's what I don't understand.
16:51Hold on.
16:53Dude.
16:54But if you care about Jesse's feelings
16:55and how she's felt throughout this whole entire thing,
16:56why haven't you reached out to her?
16:57I don't care about Jesse right now.
16:59I don't care.
17:00We don't have a friendship.
17:01But you're saying right now you're trying to, like,
17:03be like, call it off, call it off, call it off,
17:04like, but you're not.
17:05Because I didn't want to meddle.
17:06I don't want to meddle
17:07and I don't want to get involved in it.
17:08Meddling is texting Marciono when he's filming.
17:10Have you trolled the full truth
17:12of what's happened in Vanderpump?
17:13Yeah, nothing happened in Vanderpump.
17:17Okay, now you're questioning me?
17:19Now you're questioning me?
17:20It's a curb.
17:21Someone's word against your word.
17:23There's two...
17:24She said, she said.
17:25Have I ever lied about anything?
17:27Why are you trying to pin me up against
17:29a fucking cheater and a liar?
17:31Yeah.
17:32Why are you comparing the two?
17:33I don't know.
17:34Jesse's the one fucking having an affair.
17:37I find it embarrassing
17:39that this type of conversation
17:41is having to happen in a public setting
17:43and it feels very unprofessional.
17:45I didn't really know that Demi
17:47was really capable of that.
17:48I'm like, oh, gosh.
17:50I think I've seen this film before.
17:51That's not the way to go.
17:52That's Taylor, she'll agree.
17:54It's crazy to me that you're questioning
17:56my character in this moment
17:58over someone like Jessie.
18:00Then call Jessie.
18:01She can say it from her mouth.
18:03Okay, call her.
18:04She won't answer, Michael.
18:05I'm blocked.
18:06Literally on everything.
18:07You want to hear my text to Marciano?
18:09As pissed as I am about Jessie,
18:10I don't want to be the one to blow her life up,
18:12especially because I wasn't even involved.
18:14Then there's the perception of it all,
18:16and I just don't think it's a good look
18:17for me to be involved,
18:18especially after season two of me already
18:20most likely being painted as the villain.
18:22And they called me four different times
18:24saying this is what they want to pay me.
18:26I'm calling her.
18:27I feel like at this point there's...
18:29Hey.
18:30Hey, what's up?
18:31I don't want to catch her off guard,
18:32but Demise here,
18:33and she's saying that she supposedly
18:35texted Marciano before he came out here
18:37and said that she didn't want to follow through
18:39with everything.
18:40Well, she still did it,
18:41so even if she had regrets,
18:43she still did it.
18:44Did what?
18:45Did what exactly?
18:46I'm not talking to you.
18:47Goodbye.
18:48Okay.
18:49You're not talking to me
18:50because you're a fucking liar.
18:51So let that tell you all you need to know,
18:53and you go ahead and decide.
19:00I feel like some of these things
19:02are starting to kind of get sorted out
19:04when I feel like everything just freaking
19:05got blown up again.
19:06And also, Demise acting like a complete
19:08and utter bitch right now.
19:09You're truly showing your two characters right now,
19:11and this is why no one wants to be friends with you.
19:14Hello?
19:15Hi.
19:16She's not by me.
19:17What was that?
19:18Like, I feel like that was so blind-sighting
19:19to just have her get on the phone with me.
19:21Sorry.
19:22I should have...
19:23I tried to give you a heads up before she started to,
19:24like, speak, but I...
19:25I had your back that whole entire time.
19:27I was like, I don't want to be your friend.
19:28I don't want to talk to you.
19:29Like, she's saying that Marciano was, like, lying,
19:31like, all these things,
19:32but I had your back the whole time.
19:33No, and I...
19:34I'm glad you did,
19:35but it didn't sound like it when you called me.
19:36Okay, one sec.
19:37One sec.
19:38One sec.
19:39Yeah?
19:40What's going on?
19:41Talk to me, Jessie.
19:42Okay.
19:43I'm gonna go do a live, actually,
19:44and tell everyone about Jessie.
19:46No, you're not.
19:47Yeah.
19:48No, you're not.
19:49Tell her.
19:50Demi, shut the fuck up.
19:51No, you're not.
19:52Demi, what the fuck?
19:53Wait, what is she saying?
19:54She's saying that she's gonna fucking go in live right now
19:56and say what you did.
19:57If you do that, that proves exactly who you are.
20:00What the fuck?
20:01And if she did that, she breaks any idea she signs.
20:04What the...
20:05Is Andrea here?
20:06Someone needs to fucking stop her.
20:07Fucking psychopath.
20:08Genuinely, what the fuck?
20:09She's insane.
20:10No, she's fucking insane.
20:11Now she's fucking screaming at Andrea right now.
20:13And...
20:14Oh?
20:15I fucking can't.
20:16They don't know if she's gonna go live?
20:18Yep, we don't know.
20:20I wanna die.
20:41I'll help.
20:42I'll grab your bag.
20:43You grab the snacks, Jess.
20:44Oh my gosh, thank you.
20:45I've got the most important bag for the snacks.
20:46She needs a man.
20:47For real.
20:48Half of us are single in this group.
20:50I know.
20:51What the hell is going on?
20:52We're heading to St. George today, and I'm really excited to get out of town this weekend.
20:55I really need the break, but I am still kind of stressed out because I heard about Layla's run-in with Demi at the Jet Set event.
21:02And of course Demi never went live.
21:04She's full of empty threats, but clearly Demi is doubling down on the me and Marciano had sex narrative.
21:10And I think it has gotten to Jordan, so I'm stressed that he's gonna start believing it again.
21:15Oh, other fucker.
21:18Jessie.
21:19What are you going here?
21:20Oh, sorry.
21:21I didn't know we were putting in here.
21:22He's like, what do you have in there?
21:23No, I over-packed because I never know what I want to wear.
21:25We invited Miranda because we figured we couldn't keep her in MomTalk limbo forever.
21:29This will also be a good test to make sure that Miranda is not the mole.
21:33And I think by the end of the trip, we'll officially decide if she's in MomTalk or not.
21:37I don't think I've done a car ride with all of you guys either.
21:39Oh, come in, bitches.
21:40Layla, tell what happened the other night.
21:42Oh, gosh.
21:43Okay, so I went to the act event and it was only me and Miranda that were there for MomTalk.
21:47And then I saw Demi.
21:48The only reason why she was comfortable coming is because at that point she didn't know that I hated her.
21:52Yeah, she thought it was you two and she could get you.
21:54I mean, are you guys still good?
21:56Oh, no.
21:58She texted me.
21:59What'd she say?
22:00She just said, because I didn't say anything after she left.
22:03I didn't, like, say anything.
22:04I didn't reach out.
22:05And because I'm like, what am I supposed to say?
22:08No.
22:09I'm not the mole.
22:10I'm not sharing any information.
22:13However, after seeing some of Demi's behavior, I am feeling like it's time to take a step back from my friendship with Demi.
22:21I'm like, what am I, what do I even, what do I say?
22:24Yeah.
22:25She knew what she was doing.
22:28How do I turn the car off, Layla?
22:29I don't know.
22:30The girls and I are going ATV minus the pregnant girls.
22:31Can we try a few things?
22:32Sure.
22:33Can I try gooey cake?
22:34And can I try jolted cow?
22:35She's not going to spoil my dinner.
22:36Have you guys driven ATVs before?
22:37No.
22:38I have.
22:39You guys have?
22:40Yeah.
22:41A couple.
22:42Are we gonna die?
22:43I, we don't know yet.
22:44I will tell.
22:45I love ATV-ing and I think a little pedal to the metal, that might be exactly what we're
22:46doing.
22:47I don't know.
22:48I don't know.
22:49How do I turn the car off, Layla?
22:50I don't know.
22:51The girls and I are going ATV-ing minus the pregnant girls.
22:52Can we try a few things?
22:53Yeah.
22:54Can I try gooey cake?
22:55And can I try jolted cow?
22:56She's not going to spoil my dinner.
22:58Have you guys driven ATVs before?
23:00No.
23:01I have.
23:02Oh yeah.
23:03You guys have?
23:04Yeah.
23:05A couple.
23:06Are we gonna die?
23:07Yeah.
23:08I love ATV-ing and I think a little pedal to the metal, that might be exactly what we
23:14need.
23:15Okay.
23:16You guys ready?
23:17Yeah.
23:18All right, let's move.
23:19Let's do it.
23:20Let's go.
23:21We got a big beat on the ticket to ride.
23:26We got to run fast if we want to make it in time.
23:28We got a sweet swing to the beat in the side.
23:31We got a, we got a, we got a, we got a.
23:34Oh my gosh, that was so fun.
23:49I literally have sand up my nostrils.
23:51I feel like I've been wanting to talk to you guys.
23:54Do we have to do that here?
23:56I don't want the sand in my eyes.
23:59Oh, it rips out my extension.
24:01I am excited for this trip, but also to figure out what we're doing.
24:05Mom talk is in shambles.
24:07So I would like all of us to sit down and conversate about our whole situation.
24:11Now that like Demi and Whitney are out, I feel like we are in a healthier setting where
24:15there's not like this like major contention and resentment towards one another.
24:20At least I feel that way.
24:21Yeah.
24:22I feel like we're always going to have our differences, our debates and everything.
24:25But there's like also.
24:26That's friendship.
24:27That's life.
24:28Yeah.
24:29That's relationships.
24:30Yeah.
24:31That's relationships in your life.
24:32I literally like.
24:33I can't see you at all, but we hear you.
24:34What's the matter if you see me?
24:36That's relationships.
24:37Oh my God.
24:38Oh my God.
24:39I'm sad.
24:40Go mom talk.
24:41We can have more of this discussion tonight with Mikayla and Macy as well.
24:44And we can brainstorm moving forward.
24:47Group therapy.
24:48Yeah.
24:49Basically.
24:50And we can move forward from there.
24:51You know?
24:52I like it.
24:53Let's do it tonight.
24:54All right.
24:55You guys ready to go to the next spot?
24:56Yes.
24:57Ready for round two?
24:58Miranda.
25:00I think.
25:01So tonight, this is like your opportunity that you need to take it to kind of like really
25:06say your stance on where you're at with mom talk.
25:08Take me or leave me.
25:10I just feel like it's been very back and forth and I'm going to have you back tonight.
25:13I'm like, admit it.
25:14You like me.
25:15You like me.
25:16I know you like me.
25:17Yeah.
25:18I'm cool and I'm fine.
25:19Yeah.
25:20What's the hold up?
25:21For months, I have been trying to show up and be there for these women.
25:25I don't understand how I haven't proven myself yet.
25:28I don't know.
25:29You guys, I don't know.
25:30Jesus fucking Christ.
25:31This can't.
25:32I can't.
25:33I'm literally going to like lose an eyeball.
25:34Let's rock and roll.
25:37Do something sexy.
25:39I'm down.
25:40I'm ready for anything.
25:41I am.
25:42I'm going ready.
25:43You're a good singer.
25:44Come on.
25:45No second chance to fly.
25:46So cute.
25:47Did you guys have fun ATV-ing?
25:48I want to hear about ATV.
25:49It was.
25:50It was so fun.
25:51It was so fun.
25:52Way more fun than I thought it was.
25:53Yeah.
25:54Did you drive at all, Jess?
25:55No.
25:56I was too scared.
25:57Take fun of me driving a car.
25:58Like, I was like, I can't kill us.
26:00Like, if I get distracted.
26:01No, but like, you're so safe in those things.
26:04Like, um, I knew someone that actually died in time.
26:06I've heard a lot of people die in those.
26:08Okay.
26:09Okay.
26:10And then she died.
26:11I'm glad we-
26:12I'm glad you told us this after.
26:13After.
26:14Well, sorry to change the subject, but as I was saying earlier, we need to like figure
26:19out how we're going to do mom talk moving forward.
26:21I have an intuition that-
26:23Oh.
26:24Intuition.
26:25I think either, I don't know if it's going to be Whitney or Demi or both, one of them
26:28is going to try to come back.
26:29One thousand percent.
26:30So, what is our game plan when they do?
26:32If you leave because you're having a mental health issue, you're like, hey, I need to step
26:35away.
26:36Like, I think that's completely fine and reasonable.
26:38But if you're like, peace, I'm out.
26:39I hate you guys.
26:40Whatever.
26:41Don't come back.
26:42I think I can yell to anyone in the group.
26:43Like Demi yelling at Layla in public.
26:45Or bang your hands on the table.
26:47That's going to be an immediate no.
26:49It needs to be a hard no.
26:51Demi has done terrible things to a lot of us and she's not to be trusted.
26:57So, it is important that we are a united front and we don't want someone
27:02in the mom talk that's demeaning us ever again.
27:04Okay.
27:05So, since we were kind of like back and forth for I don't know how long now over Miranda
27:08coming back in the mom talk, I think it's just time that we're just like confirming.
27:11Does that mean that Miranda's officially back in?
27:14She's going to come as a shock, but I do think the qualities that Miranda has are qualities
27:19that we need in mom talk.
27:21She can stay calm and when she's done wrong, she'll sit there and she'll listen and she'll
27:25be like, you're right.
27:26Like, I shouldn't have done that.
27:28So, yeah, there's a soft spot there.
27:30So, I just want to make sure we're all on the same page so we're not coming back to
27:33this discussion moving forward.
27:34So, if anyone has anything to say, say enough.
27:37I personally think it's like kind of ridiculous that she's been around for so long and she's
27:42still a question mark.
27:43Sometimes it's hard to like let people in because like what are their intentions?
27:46It's hard not to have those guards up.
27:48Yeah.
27:49So, for me, like obviously mom talk is a business, but for me it also is like a big friendship
27:53because...
27:54I'm sorry.
27:55Are you going to cry?
27:56No.
27:57No, I have indigestion.
28:00The way I feel is that you've tried hard to reestablish connections, but I don't trust
28:05to me.
28:06So, anyone that associates with her, I'm going to be nervous about.
28:08When it comes to people, I definitely do have a tendency to give people the benefit
28:12of the doubt like far too much.
28:14But obviously, after seeing her behavior at the event, I took that into account and I
28:20trust, you know, people around me.
28:22It is hard to like cut someone off before you know facts, but at this point it's like
28:27so many behaviors have stacked up.
28:28Right.
28:29And I'm proud of you.
28:30Picking the right side.
28:31Picking the right side.
28:32On the right side of history.
28:35The thing I do love about Miranda is that she's fair and rational.
28:39And now that she has seen for herself what Demi is capable of, I do believe that Miranda
28:43won't link any information to Demi.
28:45So, I'm not sure who the mole was, but I do feel good about trusting Miranda moving forward.
28:49I feel like Miranda should be back in.
28:50Yes.
28:51Yes.
28:52100%.
28:53I feel like at this point.
28:54Yeah.
28:55Welcome back to MomTalk.
28:58She's like, do I want back here?
29:00Especially given the fact that I played a pretty big role in MomTalk even becoming a
29:07thing, I'm hopeful that I can kind of get MomTalk back to its roots, support each other,
29:12make fun dancing videos, and look hot doing it.
29:19So, since we're here in St. George, I've really been thinking about it.
29:22And I kind of want to reach out to Marciano because he lives in Vegas.
29:27I know.
29:28That's like crazy.
29:29Not for anything inappropriate.
29:30I'm like, I'm going to go sleep there tonight.
29:32Lessons learned.
29:33No, I just, I feel like I need some more answers.
29:36Like, there's so much that I don't understand still.
29:39And especially after the act event the other night, I need to know, like, for sure if he's
29:43lying about anything.
29:45And then also get more information just for closure.
29:48I would give that one a little bit more thought.
29:51You know, but I only have one day to think about it.
29:53Somehow, Jessie is taking his time to hang out with Marciano in St. George.
29:58I thought she would get away from the Marciano situation.
30:01And now I'm realizing we just kind of sent her running into Marciano's arms.
30:06My gut's telling me I need to do this for closure and to get answers.
30:09Yeah.
30:10And I'm also still really mad at him for what he did to me.
30:12I think especially because, yes, you may not have been, like, in love with him.
30:16But obviously.
30:17You screwed me over.
30:18You screwed me over.
30:19Like, you were trying to make me think you cared about me.
30:21Yeah.
30:22Like, for what reason was that?
30:23Yeah.
30:24I felt really betrayed by Marciano.
30:25And I'm still really angry that he lied because I did think we had a connection.
30:29And we did become really close.
30:31So this is my chance to get closure.
30:33But I also feel like I need solid proof in case Demi still tries to say that we slept together.
30:38And I think the biggest thing is if Demi comes back around, I need answers.
30:41I know it sounds crazy, but I want both of us to take a lie detector test since Demi's
30:45still running her mouth.
30:46If Jordan isn't aware, I think that'd be really, like, on his end purple because it's
30:50so fresh.
30:51For sure.
30:52I can't actually think of anything worse to do.
30:53Right.
30:54Okay, well.
30:55I am very confused on why Jesse does need to see Marciano.
30:59I don't know if there's feelings there.
31:01Obviously, you have to question it.
31:03But also, he liked Demi and then liked Jesse.
31:06I don't know if, like, Jesse's not offended by it.
31:09But, like, I hate to be someone's second choice.
31:12And also, did she forget the fact that he tried to ruin her life?
31:15Marciano is a liar.
31:16No liars coming to tell you the truth now.
31:17Marciano is a liar.
31:18No liars coming to tell you the truth now.
31:23.
31:38Okay, should we call that polygraph lady?
31:40Maybe.
31:41Wait.
31:42Come in here.
31:43Yummy!
31:44You want some Kit Kats?
31:45Give them to me.
31:47i'll sit up i'm like fred eagle
31:52okay hello hi how can i help you jesse told us that she reached out to marciana this morning
32:01and he agreed to come to saint george jesse also asked us if we could arrange a lie detector test
32:07and of course me and mikaela went into detective mode once again when we found the lady who said
32:11she can come later today i do feel like a lie detector test is a bit extreme but i guess i'm
32:16not in jesse's shoes and if i were i may be kind of desperate to get my name cleared as well especially
32:21when you have demi on the outside kind of coming for her thanks for getting back to us we just have
32:25a few questions does the test like measure like their heart rate and stuff like how does that work
32:30exactly i was just curious it's measuring their response to the question okay and what i'm measuring
32:35is um their breathing their heart rate and sweat gland activity okay okay and what is the accuracy
32:42of this test got about a 96 accuracy and once the testing process is done for both of them
32:48uh the results probably take about maybe like an hour hour and a half to finish scoring but i just want
32:53to give you a heads up um okay because of national security issues i do not feel anything i'm not not
32:59to inflate my ego but i'm kind of a big deal i'm a big bitch i love it yeah we are too that's what we
33:03mean i will say i am really impressed by the polygrapher she seems very professional knowledgeable
33:10i feel like i even had my doubts on my detectors and after listening to her i feel a lot more confident
33:15in this test and the fact that she doesn't want to be on camera makes me trust her even more because
33:19she's just doing her job and doesn't want anything out of it thanks for uh letting me help you with
33:24the situation of course okay thanks for doing business with us absolutely have a good day
33:32bye bye okay doing business i'm like eminem incorporated thank you so much for doing business
33:40i was thinking we could make a tick tock today it's just like the basic salsa okay so it's
33:55like that yeah then this is the best part yeah so i'm gonna go out you stay there spin and then
34:03okay perfect you gotta catch me okay i can catch you taylor mentioned that her and all the girls are
34:12in saint george so i will see the girls next week taylor leila and i will be representing mom talk for
34:21my first event rejoining mom talk and partnering with emco beauty this is a big deal and even though i
34:29know that i'm gonna have to have a lot of tough conversations with the girls i am in a way better
34:35place so bring it on oh i wanted to tell you about meeting up with jordan and going to the gym with
34:43them oh yeah how was that he got into what's going on with him and jesse and i know they've been going
34:50through issues turns out they're actually separated obviously you remember italy and like everything that
34:58happened there with um demi and what's the what's the chubby italian's name marcello guy marcello
35:05so marciano marciano so fast forward apparently jesse had an affair with marciano
35:15yeah why was my marriage the focus the whole time like why were we tearing me down when
35:20yeah that was clearly deflecting definitely frustrated and angry i feel like this is
35:29starting to bring up old feelings towards her which i don't want to feel but i can't help but feel that
35:35because the last time we spoke she spent that whole time gaslighting me and telling me how much of a liar i
35:41was when behind closed doors she was doing that i definitely don't think i can jump back into mom
35:49talk without addressing the past and what's happening now here we go again just kidding yeah
36:03hello how you doing good how are you welcome to the freezing cold what are you guys doing just
36:10chilling we talked to the polygraph lady i'm nervous guys it'll be good i'm not nervous for like
36:17i'm nervous about just i don't know what marciano i'm getting are you having a conversation in your room
36:21i think so jesse wanting to see marciano and have him in her room yeah it's not a good idea and i do
36:30think jordan will be upset period oh shoot you guys marciano's here he's in the lobby right now
36:38he just texted me he got here okay i'll be back thank you well she has a good ass the thing is it
36:44like she's tiny but then you've got an she's got an ass yeah she got a doll pull out
36:49i'm really nervous to see marciano because i do want answers but it is a little more
37:02complicated because it was definitely an emotional affair and we did start to have feelings for each
37:06other hi how are you doing good oh my god you got me flowers no why not wow they match your outfit
37:22i know look how did you know i know wow that was so nice of you thank you oh my gosh you look so
37:26beautiful oh god no i don't but thank you okay i don't know why marciano brought me flowers it's
37:33confusing to be honest regardless i do need to focus on my marriage clear up what happened get
37:39the truth out of him and i also am curious about all the things i've heard about him and demi
37:44i'm hoping he tells the truth for his sake so how are you how have you been oh you know same old
37:48same old i guess no complaints yeah how are you doing my life's been like yeah i don't know a lot
37:55has happened jordan and i were trying to work through it um and then we actually separated
37:59oh okay um it was just a lot you guys don't ruin their conversation
38:08i'm like you guys are so immature oh my gosh sorry about how certain things definitely went down
38:13i have the utmost respect for you i'll do anything for you for sure so anything that you obviously would
38:18ask me i will i will tell you oh oh i didn't even see them oh my god
38:27they're out there i'm here yeah they all know oh my god okay is that a problem no okay
38:35so i guess my question now is why did you lie to layla about us because i've been honest and it was
38:41really hurtful to me that like i know and that's what i feel so bad about yeah a thousand percent and
38:46like so sorry about that like it ate me alive about the entire thing where i was just like
38:51why the f did i do that but why did you know i'm gonna explain um when you know i feel like you were
38:59gone i knew we had a mutual understanding yeah but then i started to have you know words put in my
39:05head that it was never real i was used i was manipulated i was all these things where i was just like
39:11oh fuck okay so okay you're in your head thinking i ghosted manipulated you demi's there for you at
39:18the moment yes i know marciano was hurt by me ending things abruptly so it does make sense that he would
39:25join forces with demi because he wanted revenge in a sense and i want to move forward but his story
39:31keeps changing so i just need the truth to finally come out so i can prove my innocence and shut down this
39:37rumor so you told to me we didn't sleep together yeah but she didn't believe it and i was just kind
39:40of like okay well like so what do i do here honestly what needs to happen at some point is like
39:45we all get in a room and hash this out or we take lie detector tests would you be open to that ever
39:49like at some point you did lie about me so i want to make sure everything you're saying now is true
39:53so i have one here would you be willing to take it i'll take it too if you have nothing to hide
39:59i think it's a good thing to clear your name i honestly do okay i'm doing this for you right yes
40:03i feel like it would be good for both of us and then demi looks like the liar i mean is there
40:07anything you want to tell me before no no no i just i mean i'm doing it for you whatever well thank
40:11you i appreciate that
40:13you
40:28okay are they gonna see us at the curtain i can't hear anything
40:35i want to see if i can hear anything the polygraph specialist will be here any minute and honestly i'm
40:39dying to know how everything is going to go with jesse and marciano and i am impressed that me and
40:44michaela were able to wrap this all together so quickly i think this is going to be a new
40:48profession for me and michaela's that's big m m investigations so if you need someone you know who
40:54to call oh i guess that maybe she's laughing yeah i can't hear anything you guys should go to a temple
41:01session i know oh my i can right there yeah i was like oh yeah yeah only me i'm like yeah sorry i have to
41:08dip out early i'm gonna do a session tonight so i'll see you guys later i'm like put my name in
41:12the prayer roll i'm gonna put all your name in the prayer roll are you like you have your uh updated
41:18document have you been through the temple if you're asking me i was like no wait did you ever want to
41:23get married in the temple like in your future oh if you met the right guy he was like i'm you're
41:28obsessed with him you're in love with him he's super mormon okay as of today no but i will not say
41:35it's like going from my own like mormon family and then dating jake whose family has never been
41:45religious it's such a different dynamic such a different dynamic my sister's dating well i don't
41:50they're not like official but her guy he's never been a mormon and he just has all these great values
41:56as a person and he's very respectful and thoughtful and he's i'm just like that is like what i mean i think
42:03that's something that's common in utah is that we almost like correlate being a member with like
42:07if they don't have that they're not raised with like good values which like you can still be a
42:10good person and not be a member most of my friends weren't mormon so i feel like i knew that like
42:14obviously people can have like good morals and values be a good person without being mormon
42:17my parents just said it might make things more difficult like when you have kids if you if you're
42:21passionate and you want to be mormon and he doesn't then you're having a split marriage for sure yeah
42:26for sure would be hard i don't know i don't know and he could be mormon doesn't have to not be but i'm like
42:31i just don't want that double standard of like we can't do this this and this but we can have sex
42:36yeah he was literally my extra tea so yeah like i felt like he didn't like like drinking or like
42:41anything would give me for doing that but then one time we went to church one time we went to church
42:46together five minutes of us getting home he's like trying to like rip off my dress and like
42:49fuck me exactly i'm like maybe we should wait like a couple hours we did just get home from church
42:54yeah just hearing leila and taylor talk about how they never want to date a mormon guy again i think is
42:59really interesting because yeah they're definitely have probably picked the wrong mormon men there
43:05are some hypocritical ones i will say that who have like the bible verses in their instagram bios
43:10but then they're trying to get in your pants later that night i've experienced that as well
43:13but also it's like not all of them are bad i found a good one yay for jacob oh yeah were you
43:20married in temple you were wait did you wear garments ever since i've known you no i wore them for
43:25two years just over two years i was wearing garments did chase really yeah weird how did i miss all
43:32this i don't know not that i would ask you like what you had under the stuff you were doing did it
43:36involve having clothes on okay we were friends okay for for a long time let me tell you we were friends
43:42five years before that started are we gonna start swinging down our five year anniversary never oh we're
43:48already past that guys are savage hi how are you thank you nice to meet you your hair is beautiful
44:03oh thank you so who's going first i'll go first oh you're going first okay yeah that's good i never
44:09thought i'd ask someone to take a lie detector test or let alone do one myself crazy what's crazy just
44:16this whole thing this whole thing i know like the fact that it's at this point is wild how long have
44:20you been doing this for 14 years oh wow um i'm gonna ask that for the exam you keep your feet flat on
44:25the floor oh i'm like can i even reach the lie detector test is like an intense process actually
44:32made me kind of nervous but they put things on your fingers and they put bands around your chest and
44:37you're just hooked up to so many different things and then they do a blood pressure cuff and it's
44:41really tight the whole time so your arm goes numb and then it makes you dizzy and you can't breathe so
44:45i wouldn't recommend it to anyone if they didn't need to do it this is the year 2025 yes do you plan
44:52to lie to any question on the test no regarding this situation involving marciano have you lied about
44:57any of it no besides the one kiss on the lips have you had any other sexual physical contact with demy
45:05no okay besides those two kisses have you ever had any other sexual contact marcy no
45:15did demy ever ask or tell you to lie about jesse
45:21no okay regarding the situation involving marciano have you told any lies about demy
45:29no okay i honestly think demy will stop at nothing she's been trying to take down anyone that gets in
45:35her way and now she's attacking my reputation and it sucks because like when something negative happens
45:40to someone in mom talk it affects the whole group and their reputation so i need to take this test
45:45because i do feel like it's the last thing i can do to clear my name and to protect mom talk have you
45:50ever had sexual intercourse with marciano no have you ever had sexual intercourse with jesse
45:56you got your tequila oh my gosh you look nice i dressed up a little better than last time i invited
46:18marciano to dinner because we are waiting for the lie detector results and i felt like he should be there so
46:23that we can both you know see the results together and explain if needed but also demy was conspiring
46:28against me so if we can get him to open up to all of us i know all the girls have questions and we need
46:34answers what are you thinking i'm just staring at how beautiful you are oh my god okay i haven't seen
46:44you in a while i know that but like that's just awkward for me you used to not care when i said that
46:50well yeah because we were having an affair like so why would it change
46:55let's go can we get our slow-mo so jesse and marciano just finished the lie detector test and
47:02now we're going to grab some dinner while we wait for the results they said they should take about an
47:05hour or so so i'm like super anxious nervous excited to see the results i feel like i'm not
47:11worried about what jesse's results are but i am very interested to see what marciano's results will be
47:16what is happening he's not coming to dinner with us though right i forgot i even had this pretty
47:32girls you guys are like all matching hi ladies hi taylor marciano nice to meet you a lot about you
47:40oh that's awesome this is my first time seeing marciano i get it i see what they see now i'm just
47:48kidding i don't uh no i don't get it no i don't get it i don't understand it okay so he's gonna come
47:56to dinner so that we're all together when we get the results i do think that him coming to dinner is
48:01playing with fire absolutely cute it is an interesting concept isn't it jesse inviting her fair partner to
48:09dinner he's coming to dinner with us which is weird to me oh lordy i think it's better that jesse
48:19invited him to dinner with all of us than by herself i think that deserves some points
48:25aren't we breaking the patriarchy he's not the head of the family no this is the hot seat oh my god
48:33all right well just so i can like clear the air you know how you said you and jimmy kissed can you
48:36reenact that kiss with leila bro that's crazy no that's that's oh yeah did we elaborate i want to
48:44know what the kiss was like was it was it like a peck or was it like a kiss or was it like more than a
48:53a kiss but not a make out which one it wasn't a make out was it one peck two pecks like a maybe
48:59like in between was there any more than a pack more than a pack more than a pack was it like ours
49:08because i would know which one the second one okay so like a kiss without a tongue but like a passionate
49:16kiss obviously i do see there's this giddiness and that's not a good look obviously you're still
49:21married and this is going to be really hurtful for jordan and yes you're separated but there has
49:26to be this like level of respect i've been there too so if i were to give advice it would just be like
49:31learn from my mistakes and i wouldn't be at dinner with him probably yeah okay we got the results results
49:41are in okay who should we do first um marciano have you ever had sexual intercourse with jesse no no
49:52significant reaction besides that one kiss on the lips have you ever had any other sexual physical
49:59contact with demie no no significant reaction what i'm shocked okay so according to the lie detector
50:09results to me and marciano didn't have any sexual physical contact but what's annoying is that the
50:14question was worded in a weird way so we still don't know if they actually kissed did demie ever
50:20ask or tell you to lie about jesse no and why that's a lie i knew that was going to happen why
50:28did you say i didn't know it was very i said she was so good at manipulating that you're like did
50:32she did she tell me to lie i'm gonna let you read this one have you ever had sexual intercourse with
50:39marciano it says no true yeah so you're good on that one number two besides those two kisses have
50:46you ever had any sexual physical contact marciano no inconclusive wait what
51:04we haven't talked yeah in a minute how are you feeling about mom talk are you ready to come back
51:11it's pretty frustrating to be doing everything in my power to save this marriage when jesse is not
51:16there is equal poor behavior in the relationship you know she did have an affair i get that she's
51:20your friend and you're backing her up i'm trying to step into my shoes for just a second on this
51:23that's for you and jesse to talk about how do you deal with your mental here i get called white
51:30lost a lot and i was raised around predominantly white people so that's how i kind of didn't know
51:35who that side of myself was it's very nice to just talk to somebody that just gets it you guys are just
51:40gonna go shoot the at a restaurant it's up you need help sometimes it's even worse than this
51:46i don't know what to do there's so much pain coming
52:00what do you want
52:12what do you want
52:18what do you want
52:20what do you want
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