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00:00If Jenna confirms Dakota is still lying, I'm done.
00:04I said, are you dating Taylor?
00:06And he told me no.
00:07No, it's just for clout.
00:10All I wanted is a family.
00:13You're sitting there telling me that he came over
00:15and had sex with you?
00:16What does that say about you?
00:17That's what I'm saying.
00:19I was trash.
00:20Is that Miranda?
00:21Holy shit.
00:22Wait, she looks hot.
00:24Ladies.
00:25Miranda and her ex-husband Chase were the couple
00:27involved in the swinging with Taylor and her ex-husband.
00:30You've never touched a wiener.
00:32Never touched a wiener.
00:33I came here to take accountability, and so, yeah.
00:36We've had sex in the same room.
00:37Like, we had crazy parties in Mexico.
00:39Ryan, would you believe him?
00:41Fuck you, you're a liar.
00:43Your girlfriend's literally crying.
00:45What is your husband?
00:46Brett.
00:47I don't want to have a worthless shake.
00:49He just laid his hands on me.
00:50What the hell?
00:51You're up to my wife.
00:52I'm going to work.
00:54Have you watched Secret Lesson?
00:55No.
00:57I can't do this.
00:59Will you please cut the camera?
01:00I don't even know where my marriage is at.
01:03I just kind of thought that I don't want to be here anymore.
01:07I'm focusing on my mental health.
01:10Hope to talk to you soon.
01:13Yep, I'm pregnant.
01:14Hot dogs.
01:16Who's pregnant?
01:17It's me.
01:18No one is not.
01:20Who is behind you?
01:21I don't know.
01:22We're going to play Targna C Roulette.
01:25We have some new mom talk drama.
01:31It was awkward that every single one of my friends was silent.
01:35Demi has now gone off the rails.
01:38She doesn't think you're good at hair, and she told me not to go to you for hair, and that's
01:42why I went to a different salon, because she doesn't think you're good at all, and she
01:45said that she's stuck in a thing with you.
01:46Huh?
01:47To see what she's capable of doing online to her friend, if Taylor's in, I'm out.
01:52If you feel that way, the door's there.
01:54Okay.
01:55Bye, guys.
01:56I can't believe I'm about to say this out loud, but I think I want to come back into
02:01mom talk.
02:02Majority rule.
02:03She's back in.
02:04Confetti.
02:05Is that okay with everyone?
02:06Yeah.
02:07I guess we'll see.
02:08Demi and Brett, specifically, they have more skeletons in their closet.
02:12Does Jen know they're skeletons?
02:14Hmm.
02:15Some things went down in Italy, like she was literally playing truth or dare with a ton
02:19of single men.
02:20Did she kiss them?
02:21I can't.
02:22I can't.
02:23It's not even just Demi.
02:25It's a rumor that wasn't a rumor.
02:28Did you guys fuck?
02:29Yeah.
02:30It's not just like a one-time hookup thing.
02:32No, it's a full-blown fucking affair.
02:45I'm a little sad that we're not with the rest of the crew.
02:50Jessie absolutely confirms that she did block Demi and said, and I'd do it again.
02:56Oh, I wish I could say that I regret the way that I handled that.
02:59I don't.
03:00Demi officially walked away from Montauk.
03:02I have heard from multiple sources.
03:04There was more going on between Demi and Marciano during Vanderpump Villa.
03:08I think there's definitely a lot of moments that were not shown.
03:12Do you think the ladies will have opinions about your absence?
03:16For sure.
03:17They have opinions about everything.
03:18But yeah, I don't really care.
03:20Come ye saints and come ye sinners.
03:22Alleluia.
03:23Listen up.
03:24I'm the one you've been dreaming of.
03:25I've got everything you could ever want.
03:27Try me in your sleep, I'll bring you to your knees.
03:29Baby you're gonna believe.
03:30You.
03:31I'm the one you've been dreaming of
03:35I got everything you could ever want
03:39Try me in your sleep, I'll bring you to your knees
03:43Baby, you're gonna believe
03:45Baby, you're gonna believe
04:15Baby, you're gonna believe
04:45Baby, yummy
04:46Good job
04:48The last year has been a lot
04:51You're exhausted, I'm exhausted
04:53I feel like taking a good step back
04:56And I don't want to be alone and it sucks because I do
04:59I have to be alone now
05:00I know
05:01I have been praying more than I ever have
05:05And I came to a point where I wanted to take a step back
05:09And focus on my mental health
05:10I talked to my therapist and I decided that I wanted to attend a therapy retreat for the next two weeks
05:17Hi, Ever
05:18Who is that?
05:19You ready to go to church?
05:20Oh, wow
05:21Yeah, yeah, yeah
05:23Yeah, yeah
05:24Yeah, yeah
05:25I know, buddy
05:25Look how cool that is
05:27I hate getting clothes on me, too
05:29I'm glad you're here, though
05:31Yeah
05:31It's so hard to do this by yourself
05:33Oh, I know
05:33Like, getting ready
05:34When it's really hard, though, is when I have the other two
05:37Oh, yeah, I know
05:38I think about that
05:39Dakota is gonna take Everett because he's gonna be watching him while I'm gone at the retreat
05:44I don't like leaving my kids that long
05:47However, I feel like it's needed
05:49Dakota and I have been participating in toxic cycles
05:54So I want to go and better myself
05:58And his part is up to him
06:00Are you sure you don't want to come?
06:03To church?
06:04Yeah
06:04Um, I think I'm just feeling a little exhausted
06:07But thank you for the invite
06:08When it comes to church, I only go for, like, the foundations of it
06:12Like, love, family, service, and I like going
06:15But I like to go when I want to go
06:17It's, like, a personal thing for me
06:19And I know not a lot of people can live in the gray
06:21But for me, I can
06:23You want to say bye?
06:24I love you
06:25Say bye
06:25Bye
06:26Okay, here we go
06:26Okay
06:27There are some mom talk events going on
06:31While I'm gone
06:32But the girls are very supportive
06:34As all of us as mothers
06:36Your mental health comes first
06:37Because if you don't have that, you don't have anything
06:39I just hope all the girls will be able to survive
06:42A couple events without me
06:43So, we'll see
06:45Look out there
06:47Have fun at church
06:51Come on
06:52You ready?
06:56Let's get it
06:57Wow, these interviews are harder than that
07:08I'm fatter
07:09I can't even breathe
07:10Okay
07:10Let's get it
07:13You're so beautiful
07:17Thanks for having me
07:19I work with me
07:19Thank you
07:20I know
07:21I'm a little over 20 weeks pregnant
07:24And I'm starting to feel it
07:25Like, my back and my boobs be hurting
07:27But I need to show up to this event
07:30Because we don't really know what's going on with mom talk right now
07:33And we need to have a united friend
07:34So, I feel like it's really important for the rest of us
07:36To all be there
07:37Hi
07:37Oh, my God
07:38I need a vibe
07:39It's touching
07:40Oh, my gosh
07:41This is not good for my sweet tooth
07:43I know
07:44Those are sour
07:46I'm going to get, like, acid reflux
07:47I feel like mom talk is at its absolute lowest right now
07:51Taylor and Jen are on a mental health break
07:54And Whitney left mom talk
07:56Again, it's not a shock
07:58Recently, we all renegotiated our contracts
08:01But Whitney apparently didn't want more money
08:03She wanted tickets to the Oscars
08:05And a scripted role in another TV show
08:09And clearly, she's not here
08:11So, she didn't get it
08:12No one has heard from her in two weeks
08:15So, in my head, I feel like she's out
08:17All my prayers have been answered
08:19And the church is true
08:21Amen
08:25Leanne's here?
08:29Just go
08:29Yeah, heart
08:30Who else is here?
08:32Well, where's Demi?
08:33Does it matter?
08:34I haven't seen Demi since
08:36She was trying to tell all the girls
08:37To choose between her or Taylor
08:39And we all sided with Taylor
08:41There was a little part of me
08:42That thought after this last mom talk meeting
08:44That Demi would come back to mom talk
08:46And everyone would make up
08:47But with the new season
08:49She was wanting to get paid
08:50Three times more than everyone
08:52And when she didn't get that
08:53She officially walked away from mom talk
08:54Whitney and Demi are out of mom talk
08:59But it somehow seems like they're still friends
09:00And they've created some sort of alliance
09:02They have been going to influencer events together
09:05But they're also still invested
09:06In what we are doing in mom talk
09:07So, I feel like time will tell
09:09If they're actually going to stay out of mom talk for long
09:11We don't drink alcohol or do drugs
09:14And so it's kind of our vice
09:15Whitney and I did ketamine
09:17It feels like Whitney and Demi are kind of taunting us
09:20And it's pretty bad timing
09:21Because we are busier than ever with non-stop events
09:24So, the rest of us who are in mom talk
09:26Have to just focus on staying strong
09:28And united during this time
09:30I am sick to my stomach
09:36A couple weeks ago
09:37I was told by Marciano
09:38That Marciano and Jessie
09:40Have been having an affair
09:41And I'm super nervous going into tonight
09:43I'm seeing Jessie for the first time
09:45Since I found out
09:46It's not that I necessarily want to tell Jessie
09:48At the media tour of it
09:49But I just feel like I can't see her face to face
09:51And act like everything is okay
09:52I love Jessie and I want to hear her side of it
09:55But this isn't talking about like
09:56Her shoes are ugly
09:57Like this is something that could destroy her family
09:59And I really don't know what to do
10:00Hi
10:01Hello
10:02Did you just grab my ass?
10:03Oh my god
10:04Oh yay
10:05What happened in the white dress?
10:13This is stunning
10:14You look so good
10:15You look good
10:16Thanks for sending me a picture of your dress
10:17I know I forgot
10:18I'm sorry
10:18Oh sorry
10:19Forgive you
10:20Although I might not be technically in mom talk
10:22The influencing world in Utah is small
10:24So we do find ourselves at a lot of the same events
10:27Not too long ago
10:28I wasn't sure that I wanted to be part of the group
10:30And I do still have friendship with Demi and Whitney
10:34But since Demi and Whitney have left
10:36I'm surprised by how much calmer the group seems
10:40And I'm starting to think that maybe this is a good place to be
10:44Now I just need to get the girls to officially vote me back in
10:48How funny is that?
10:49Just us
10:49Like waddling around
10:50So at the Minky Couture event when the DJ rings the bell
10:57You have to run to any number you find and wait
10:59And if the DJ calls that number then you win a prize
11:02And even though I'm over 20 weeks pregnant
11:04When there's a competition for a designer bag
11:06You bet you'll see my ass sprinting doing that bag
11:09Mikaela get that one
11:11How about the leader of mom talk?
11:15Just kidding
11:16That's me Mikaela
11:17Demi runs through the door
11:18All of a sudden she walks up
11:19Did you say the leader of mom talk?
11:21The number is
11:2239
11:24I was 38
11:25Dang it Mikaela we're losing
11:28This whole thing has been so stressful
11:30I hate having this information
11:33When it comes down to it
11:34This is Jessie, Jordan and Marciano's business
11:37I'm so confused right now
11:47Because I didn't ever think Jessie would be the person that would cheat
11:50I can't see her doing this
11:51And I just I don't know
11:53Marciano can be completely lying
11:54So I just want to protect Jessie
11:56And find out the truth
11:57And I know that's just by telling her first
11:59Hey
12:03Hey
12:05Are you here yet?
12:06I'm just about to get away
12:08Okay
12:08I'm going to come to your car and talk to you for a sec
12:10Okay
12:11Okay bye
12:12Is 22 your lucky number?
12:18It's not my lucky number
12:19Because 22 is the winner
12:26Hi
12:28Hey how are you?
12:29I love that dress
12:30Thank you
12:30You look so pretty
12:31You look pretty
12:31You look pretty
12:32Do you just want to go in my car?
12:33Yes
12:33Yeah where'd you park?
12:34I'm so proud
12:34See just right here
12:35Yes
12:35How are you?
12:37I'm good
12:38I'm good
12:38I like don't even know where to like start
12:42Okay
12:42With this
12:43This isn't like easy
12:46I'm literally going to cry thinking about it
12:48Because I feel just bad that this has to like come out like the way that it is
12:51So I met with Marciano
12:53To see what was the truth behind like him and Denis
12:59I just kind of want to like get the truth
13:01Yeah
13:01And I went into it and thinking that he was only going to say that
13:06And he told me that you guys have been having an affair the past couple months
13:13Okay
13:17There's so much more to that story but
13:30I'm so confused and so overwhelmed by this situation right now
13:34I'm just internally freaking out so much
13:39Because I've been hiding the secret of my affair for a while
13:46I'll tell you the truth
13:47I'll tell you the truth
13:48I've been hoping and praying this secret would never come out
13:52It's the biggest mistake I've ever made in my whole life
13:55But I now have to face what I did
13:58Own it
13:58And tell the truth
14:00Jordan and I have been struggling
14:04It's been really up and down
14:05And we did separate back in September
14:08No one knew
14:09And then I went to LA
14:10Marciano was there
14:11And I didn't go into it thinking anything was going to happen at all
14:14Like I didn't even know he was coming until the day before
14:16And then we were drinking and stuff
14:18I kissed him twice
14:19We did have an emotional affair if that's what you want to call it
14:23But on my end like I was just looking for like validation
14:27Like I was just so heartbroken and like hurt over like what was going on in my life
14:31That I just needed a distraction
14:32That's really what it was
14:33Jordan's known for six months
14:35So he's known the whole time
14:36As soon as I told Jordan about the affair
14:39I cut it off immediately
14:41We decided to keep this affair private
14:43Because we're going to stay together
14:44And we didn't need outside opinions and voices
14:47So I am furious at Marciano
14:50The last time we had talked
14:51It was like I have your back
14:53And to see him just turn on me so quickly
14:54Is so confusing
14:55Because I don't know what the purpose is
14:57He told me that you guys hooked up
15:01What does he mean by hooked up?
15:03Like what do you mean?
15:05Like had sex
15:05Are you kidding me?
15:08He said we had sex?
15:09Yes
15:10Oh my fucking hell
15:12I can't
15:13I can't
15:14We did not have sex
15:16Absolutely not
15:17Like no
15:19I really don't know who to believe at this point
15:22I want to believe my best friend
15:24I feel like that's logically the person
15:26That I should lean towards believing
15:28But I just feel like there's no way to tell
15:30Who's lying and telling the truth
15:32But he told me that you came at him
15:34That you
15:35The first second you saw him
15:36You like wrapped your legs around him
15:38And you're like embracing him this big hug
15:39Yeah I jumped up and hugged him
15:40And he grabbed my legs and pulled them up
15:42But I hugged him because he's taller than me
15:43So I had to go up
15:44Like he's a victim
15:45Like I came at him
15:46No it was mutual
15:47He literally said the words like he
15:48That you manipulated him
15:49Are you kidding?
15:53But like why would Marciano like make this up?
15:55I don't know
15:56Like I almost want to like call him right now
15:59Would you be open to that?
16:00Yeah let's do it
16:00Hey what are you doing?
16:08Working out
16:08Um I just have a question
16:10I was able to talk to Jessie
16:12And Jessie's saying that you guys never had sex
16:15So I just like
16:16I did admit to everything else
16:21She admitted to everything else
16:23So she said that like you guys kissed
16:25But she like swore in like her kid's life basically
16:27That she never had sex with you
16:29I said that that was what was going to happen
16:31I don't know what you want me to say
16:32If that's her prerogative
16:33Then that's her prerogative
16:33Like I don't know what you want me to say
16:36That's fine
16:37If that's what she's saying
16:38Then I'm just
16:38At this point
16:40Like
16:40Hey Marciano I'm here
16:42Hey Marciano I'm here
16:44So
16:44But you know like genuinely
16:45You know that didn't happen right?
16:47Oh my god
16:48Okay
16:50I remember I took a Cialis
16:53And I remember like
16:54I
16:54Had like
16:55Cum stains in my shorts
16:58But okay
16:59Whatever you say
17:01We did not have sex
17:02That didn't happen
17:03Okay
17:06It didn't
17:07You know that
17:07Okay
17:09Sounds good
17:10Okay bye
17:11That Marciano is saying
17:14We had sex
17:15Is mind boggling to me
17:17It's like for me
17:18I'm the one who did something wrong
17:20But you're making it sound
17:21Ten times worse
17:22When I know I didn't do that
17:24I'm freaking Layla
17:26Where is she?
17:28Where is that skinny bitch?
17:30I'm surprised Jesse's not here
17:31And hasn't said anything to us
17:32Because I'm like
17:33We're supposed to go to this together
17:34Where the heck you at ho?
17:40Damn this food looks good
17:41What are those?
17:42Potatoes?
17:42Peanut potatoes I think
17:43I wish we had our location
17:45Alright
17:46Here we go
17:47Look at her
17:48Ah
17:48Coach
17:50Shoulder bag
17:52Can't answer
17:53I'm so confused
17:5543
17:56Wait
17:57Wait that's me
17:59That's me
18:00That's me
18:01Congratulations
18:03Ain't no party by Kamiki party
18:05That's not what happened
18:06Like I don't know
18:07Like how I'm going to prove this
18:09But I will prove this
18:10I'm so sorry
18:12Like everyone's going to be affected by this
18:13I feel so bad
18:14It's going to be okay
18:19It's going to be okay
18:20No this is like my worst nightmare
18:21Like this is something that like
18:23Me and Jordan have been struggling with
18:25And like I didn't ever think would come out
18:26Because we've worked through it
18:27But like now he's going to be affected
18:28Our kids are going to be affecting our families
18:30Like I just feel so bad
18:31You're not a bad person Jesse
18:33You were going through a hard time
18:35You and Jordan were literally on a break
18:36Like I just don't want anyone to blame Jordan
18:38Like I just it's my fault
18:39I think I'm going to go
18:40So I can talk to Jordan
18:41I'm sorry
18:41And then I'll fill you in tomorrow
18:43But um
18:43Thank you for telling me
18:44So you know I haven't told any of the girls
18:45They had no idea
18:46Thank you
18:46They didn't even know that I walked out right now
18:48So
18:48Okay I'm going to tell everyone
18:49I'm a little bit panicked
18:52Because I never thought Marciano would talk about our affair on camera
18:56And when this airs it's all going public
18:58And I have a lot of people in my life that are still actively Mormons
19:02And infidelity is definitely frowned upon in the church
19:06And I'm really afraid of the backlash that's going to come with it
19:09The worst part of this whole thing is that Marciano is lying
19:23He said we had sex and we didn't
19:25I'm terrified that Jordan's going to believe him over me
19:27I've worked really hard to earn his trust back
19:29And now it feels like all of that progress is just going to go out the window
19:32Hey um
19:36So Layla talked to Marciano and he told her everything
19:39What?
19:41It's all coming out and I'm freaking out
19:43Yeah
19:44I can't do this
19:49Okay I'm coming home
19:56Why not stay right here forever
19:59I cried myself to sleep last night
20:11But then I had to wake up and be a mom
20:14And not let my kids know what's going on
20:16I don't want them to feel that from me
20:19Just having to like do that while I'm dying inside is really hard
20:24I filled Jordan in last night on everything that happened
20:27He was obviously not happy
20:29His first reactions were like
20:30We're not talking about this
20:31Like I don't want to do this
20:33And it reopened some wounds
20:34But as we started discussing it more
20:36He did agree that we're going to share this story
20:39And we're going to try to get through it the best we can
20:42Hey, baby
20:43Hey
20:44Um, I just took the kids to school
20:47How were you feeling after last night?
20:50Just wanted to chat and kind of like see where you're at
20:53I just feel broken
20:58Me too
20:59I'm sorry
20:59I'm sorry
21:00I'm the one that did that to you
21:01I don't deserve to be treated this way
21:04I don't deserve the deceit
21:06I'm sorry for now how it's coming out
21:08I don't know why I did it
21:10Um, obviously we've had our struggles
21:13But I think it has more to do with me
21:15And I was being stupid
21:17And I was going through a lot
21:18And I made stupid decisions
21:19And I'm really sorry for what I did to you
21:21There's dark parts of me that just
21:24Sometimes I want to throw up my hands
21:26And just say I don't want to do this anymore
21:28Can I live with that lingering disrespect?
21:33Can I live with that emasculating feelings
21:35That your decisions gave me?
21:38His narrative is completely changing now
21:40And there are things that make me question the story
21:42Um, I just want to reiterate
21:46That I've been honest with you about what's happened
21:49And if there was more to the story
21:51I would tell you right now
21:53But the question that I have to ask myself is
22:06Are you still the person that I want to be with?
22:11Seeing how upset Jordan is
22:13Just kind of solidifies the thoughts I've been having
22:16That this is all my fault
22:18And this is so detrimental
22:20To our relationship
22:22And to him as a person
22:23Just like knowing what I've done to our family
22:25And like
22:26That I've put us in this situation
22:31Makes me really sad
22:32And I just feel so regretful
22:35And I'm so disappointed in myself
22:37I think the only like silver lining
22:40I feel right now
22:41Is you can tell your friends and your family
22:43And get comfort hopefully
22:45And I think that'll be healing for you
22:47For me
22:49I have to tell the girls
22:50And I'm just
22:51I'm so scared to talk to them
22:53I am really nervous to tell the girls about this
22:57Because once this gets out
22:58It's another scandal for MomTalk
23:00And that's really shitty
23:01Because MomTalk
23:03We've been trying to get back together
23:04And like be a sisterhood again
23:06And I feel like this is just gonna break things apart
23:08I'm so sorry
23:12Hello
23:26Hi
23:27Dude does your baby get so hard?
23:30Like look how hard it is right now
23:31It probably goes on its back
23:32And just like pushes up
23:34Where's Jessie by the way?
23:35I'm like she better be here to do my hair
23:36I don't think she's coming
23:38Also I hope not
23:39Because I parked in her spot
23:40So
23:41Jessie didn't show up at the Minky event
23:44And now she's not here
23:45To get our hair done for Layla's birthday
23:46We have not heard from her
23:48No texts
23:49No calls
23:49When Jessie is sick
23:50She still comes around
23:52She'll be puking and come hug you
23:53Which I think is disgusting
23:55But anyways
23:57I feel like I'm getting a little concerned
23:58Because it's very out of the ordinary for her
24:00I feel like she's being weird
24:02She is being weird
24:03And she's so responsive
24:04And she's not being responsive
24:05I'm still getting over everything that happened last night
24:14A lot of things are definitely not adding up
24:17But at the end of the day
24:18This isn't my story to tell
24:19And I feel like it's only fair
24:21To let Jessie tell the other girls herself
24:22Hi
24:23Hi
24:24Happy birthday
24:25Who's gonna curl my hair?
24:26Happy birthday
24:26Our hairstylist is missing
24:28At this point I'm just gonna take a step back
24:30And try to focus on my birthday this week
24:32Wait your birthday is soon too huh?
24:34When is it?
24:35The 17th
24:36How old are you turning?
24:3825
24:38My birthday gift was Whitney leaving MomTalk again
24:41I'm dead
24:42So who from MomTalk's all going?
24:45Your birthday party tomorrow
24:47The four of us
24:48It's just us four again
24:50It's me, you, Miranda, and Jessie
24:52But I also invited Kate
24:54So that means that I feel like Chase will probably come
24:57What are you talking?
24:58If he's coming everyone's leaving
25:00Why would you want to be around him?
25:02Because I'm trying to be good with people
25:03Well don't be
25:05Chase is Miranda's ex-husband
25:08Obviously Chase was involved in the swinging situation
25:10I used to see Chase a little bit as well
25:12And now he's seeing my friend Kate
25:14And I feel like it's so awkward to invite her
25:16But not her boyfriend
25:17I mean just like who would do that?
25:19I'm not gonna be anything that he's at
25:21If it was like someone in MomTalk
25:23We'd suck it up and still go
25:25Like Mikaela would go if Whitney was going, right?
25:27But she just wouldn't enjoy it
25:28I can't handle toxic men
25:29I can probably handle toxic women a lot better
25:31It's the men
25:32I feel like if he goes
25:33He's gonna start something
25:34I already feel it
25:35Layla got duped by Demi
25:37She got duped by Whitney
25:38And now she's getting duped by Chase
25:40I can be duped by women
25:42But not toxic men
25:43So I feel like Layla is being a little bit naive
25:45In this situation
25:46And with everything going on right now
25:48We should be protecting MomTalk
25:50I just cannot
25:51I know that some of the girls
25:54Have their feelings about Chase
25:55And MomTalk barely survived the Halloween party
25:58They're talking about you
25:59Your boyfriend's a fucking liar
26:01You're lying
26:01Hey, we're not doing this here
26:02No, no, get out
26:03So that was fun
26:05But Kate and Miranda both are assuring me
26:08That Chase has been doing a lot of changing recently
26:10And he's just becoming a better person
26:12And he has a really cute brother named Mason
26:14That I kind of want to get to announce
26:15He's just a walking red flag
26:18But if he's dating Kate
26:20And if she's gonna start coming around more
26:21But is she gonna start coming around?
26:22But why would she come around more?
26:23We don't even know her
26:24Because she's my friend
26:27I'm really trying to work on finding my voice in this group
26:32And I just don't want to make anyone uncomfortable
26:33But I don't know what to do in this situation
26:36What are you wearing to your birthday?
26:41So the vibe is slutty
26:42Not when we're pregnant
26:43It's not
26:44Yes, it is
26:45You can be slutty and pregnant
26:46How do you think you got pregnant?
26:49On accident
26:50Just kidding
26:51I was going to say, but you did it
26:52What's up, dude?
27:05How are you?
27:05Good, how are you doing, man?
27:07Oh, you know
27:07You want a drink?
27:09Yeah?
27:09What do you got?
27:10I got your favorites
27:11Yeah, don't show me your alcohol
27:12Yeah, no, no, not those favorites
27:14Dakota's been someone who I've gotten really close to
27:21Let's go sit down for a minute
27:22I want to talk to you about something
27:23He's the first person that I'm going to be telling about the Marciano situation
27:27He's the only person that I know that's dealt with relationship struggles on such a public level
27:33And keeping this bottled up has been hell
27:36Dude, I wanted to invite you over because you've been like super
27:41You've been super vulnerable with me
27:45And I've been holding something in for a minute
27:51And it's just been eating me alive
27:53So when Jesse went out to LA for press
28:00Marciano was there and they went out to the bars
28:02And she ended up having some drinks
28:05And they ended up kissing a couple times
28:09And she basically had like an emotional affair for a few weeks
28:13It's just been tough
28:17Because I haven't had anyone to talk to about it
28:19Bro
28:20Dude, first off
28:22Bro
28:23Bro, I wish you would have came to me soon, Gordon
28:30I'm pretty surprised
28:32Mostly just because Jordan kept it from me for so long
28:35That's just a lot to carry around
28:37Obviously from what I've gone through in my life
28:40I'm not judging Jesse
28:41And I can't
28:43I just feel for both of them
28:45I just hope that they can figure it out
28:47It's going to be tough
28:49It's about, you know, explaining this to my oldest daughter
28:54That situation is so hard
28:58Because just being a dad now for myself
29:01It really puts things in perspective about like just your family
29:04And just the lanes that you'll go to protect that
29:08That's a tough spot to be in
29:10It's super emasculating
29:12A hundred percent
29:12It would, uh, it would do the same to me
29:15Just remember, dude
29:16At the end of the day
29:17It's between you and Jesse
29:19Like, don't listen to anybody on the outside
29:23Yeah
29:23Everything coming out
29:25I can say from first-hand experience
29:27It sucks
29:28Now you're going to be hearing from the whole world
29:30Making fun of him
29:31Or calling his wife things
29:33Jordan growing up Mormon too
29:35The men are the providers
29:37That's what he's always seen his whole life
29:38Now it's completely opposite
29:40There's nothing wrong with that
29:42It's great
29:42But I just think for a man
29:44That adds another layer of feeling not enough
29:48Dude, I'm just here for you
29:50You know, from now on
29:51You freaking tell me shit, dog
29:53Dude, how do you, how do you take your hard times?
29:56Like, what do you do to cope?
29:57I say this because it has been the only thing
30:00That has ever helped me
30:01Like, just praying
30:04And I mean, I'm
30:05Pray with your heart, dude
30:06Like, put everything into it
30:07And if you don't believe in God
30:09No, I do
30:09Just believe in a higher power
30:11No, no, no
30:11I believe in Jesus
30:13Yeah
30:14So it's like
30:14For me, I turn everything to that
30:19I'm really dreading telling friends and family
30:22About what's occurred
30:23It really sucks
30:24And tonight is Layla's birthday party
30:28I'm dreading it
30:29Focus on doing what's best for you
30:32And your family
30:33That's it
30:33Everything else, out of your control
30:35What everybody says
30:37Yeah
30:37Fuck them
30:38Be someone to confide in
30:46Cause everybody else is going crazy
30:50We're gonna go pick up mama right now, baby
31:02Flowing like a fire in the darkness
31:08Hi, baby
31:10Hi
31:11How was it?
31:14It was, it was long
31:16Therapy is exhausting
31:19Did you do it?
31:20Oh, yeah
31:21Jen Affleck, take one
31:23Don't forget the Affleck
31:24When I took a break from mom talk
31:29From my mental health
31:30We decided to move back to Arizona
31:32Zach has still got five to six months
31:35To decide on whether he wants to go back to med school
31:38We're just using that time to focus on our marriage
31:40Because when I first found out I was pregnant
31:43I was, to be honest, like mortified
31:46I think everyone knows about postpartum depression
31:58But I think what's not talked about enough
32:01Is prenatal depression
32:03And that's what I dealt with
32:05Not being able to get out of bed
32:07Isolating yourself
32:09Feeling worthless
32:10But now I feel honestly grateful for this pregnancy
32:14Because this baby is what's gotten me to where I'm at now
32:19I wouldn't trade anything that we went through this last year
32:24Because it made me realize what's actually most important
32:28Like my kids
32:30And like my relationship with you
32:36And like who I want to become
32:40Zach and I have gone through a lot in the past year
32:45And yeah, through time, therapy, and healing
32:48We're finally in a better place
32:50So how are you feeling about the girls
32:53And are you wanting to get back involved with them?
32:56Feeling definitely a lot more hopeful
32:58Yeah, I just feel like sometimes you like look to these girls
33:02Like for support and empowerment
33:04And like you get let down a lot
33:06I hope that this next time
33:08You guys can be there for each other
33:10Yeah
33:11A lot of what I've gone through
33:13I think a lot of other girls have gone through too
33:16They just haven't talked about it
33:17And
33:18That's a good point
33:19I feel like
33:20We need to have more of those deep conversations
33:23So we can be there to lift and support each other
33:26In a few weeks
33:27Zach and I are going to be driving back to Utah
33:30And we're going to decide
33:31If we should have the baby in Utah or in Arizona
33:34To be honest, since leaving MomTalk
33:37I definitely have a lot of FOMO
33:38But I know that I'm going to have to have a lot of tough conversations with the girls
33:43Hi, can I do the number 12 crispy tender dinner?
33:49Sorry, ranch?
33:50Sorry, can I do ranch as well?
33:52My wife's pregnant
33:54So I think the cravings are hitting her
33:56I'm still scarred from everything that happened with Demi and Jessie
34:03Hopefully they can give me an apology for the way that they've treated me
34:08But I'm also very stressed
34:11Because the last time I had a conversation with Jessie
34:14I said something about her husband having a small wiener
34:17Yeah
34:22Now that's everything
34:26Knock, knock
34:44You guys look so good
34:47We've been so anxious
34:48I know, my tummy hurts
34:50No, wait, we're both like, we're going to have to shit when we walk in
34:53No, I'm sorry
34:55You know we have the anxious shits
34:57Why would you do that?
34:58I know, I'm such a bad friend
34:59I'm really scared to talk to Missy and Michaela
35:01I love them so much
35:03And their friendships meant everything
35:04So I don't want to lose that
35:06What are you doing?
35:07I'm all right
35:08I'm going to give you a backstory
35:11Basically, Jordan and I have really been struggling for years
35:16And it got really bad
35:17And in September
35:21I cheated on Jordan
35:23It was with Marciano
35:28I'm sorry, it's just
35:33It's been really hard
35:34But anyway, Jordan's known the whole time
35:36Basically, it was two kisses
35:38That's it
35:39I am in absolute shock
35:41I don't think my brain is processing
35:43Like what Jessie just told us
35:44I've never seen Jessie cry or break down
35:47So I'm just trying to be a good friend and be here for her
35:50But there's also a part of my mind that's like
35:52I still just don't have words
35:55Don't have words
35:56I've been like sick to my stomach
35:58Because like you guys have been so amazing to me
36:01I wouldn't blame anyone if they didn't want to be my friend
36:04No
36:04Oh my gosh
36:06If they're not going to be your friend over that
36:07That's not a true friend
36:08Like I don't think any less of you
36:09I don't either
36:10I'm like a Marciano still here to support you
36:11Thank you
36:12Not to say like
36:14Oh, I'm so happy you did this
36:15And it's amazing
36:15But it's not going to make me like
36:17Think any less of you
36:18Or like put any shame and guilt on you
36:20We all make mistakes
36:21No one's place to judge
36:22Yeah
36:22It's okay
36:23I don't deserve sympathy at all
36:25No, it's okay
36:25But we still love you
36:26Shouldn't have happened
36:29But we did continue to text for a few weeks
36:31And that was it
36:32So anyway, I guess he decides to say
36:35Also, I had sex with Jessie
36:37Oh, what?
36:40My brain is like scattered
36:42I know
36:43And me and Marciano had ended amicably
36:45Like
36:45I've been trying to wrap my head around him
36:49That is so disgusting to me and slimy
36:51Yeah
36:51Oh, I don't like that one
36:52But he blacked out
36:53And he fell asleep on my bed
36:54And it was after we kissed one time
36:56And I was up all night sick about it
36:58So I was coherent the whole night
37:00I didn't get any sleep
37:00And then he was like
37:01Well, there was like a cum stain in my underwear
37:03So like I figured
37:03I'm like
37:05Have you ever heard of like a horny guy
37:07Having pre-cum in his sleeve?
37:08Like that happens
37:09Like also you're on drugs
37:10I can't control what your body's doing
37:12What is wrong with people?
37:14Like
37:14No, genuinely
37:15People are okay
37:16No, it's fine
37:17It's all my fault
37:17Like this is my own doing
37:18Like I created this nightmare
37:20But like
37:21Now I need to fix it
37:22And
37:22I know the truth
37:23That's all that matters
37:24The people I love
37:24Like that's all I need to focus on
37:26But I will not
37:27Sit back and let him spin that narrative
37:29Because I know what happened
37:31Like
37:31Yeah
37:31Nisi and Mikayla are so supportive
37:34Of what I'm telling them
37:35But I don't know if they fully believe me
37:37Because I do know that it looks bad
37:39I'm just
37:40Speechless
37:42I don't even know what to say
37:43Yeah
37:44Oh my gosh
37:45What a nightmare
37:46Right now with what I'm going through
37:48I need MomTalk support more than ever
37:50So
37:51I really need to find a way
37:52Where I can prove my innocence
37:54And shut down this rumor
37:55Love you guys
37:56Love you for having us over
37:57And confiding in us
37:58Thank you guys again for listening to me
37:59I'm so sorry again
38:01That is not what I expected that to be
38:03No
38:04I was in shock
38:05I was shook it
38:06I needed a good cheese fry after that
38:11You have no idea
38:12How confused I am right now
38:15I bet
38:16Like I
38:16Every
38:17Like I think I keep replying
38:18Jessie telling us she had an affair
38:20Over and over my head
38:21Before I met Jessie
38:23I did hear rumors
38:24That she cheated in her past relationship
38:26So part of me questions
38:28Whether this is the whole truth
38:29Well I'm like
38:30I was with her the whole time
38:31In the actual villa
38:33She's really good at like
38:34Acting like nothing's wrong
38:36People pleasing
38:36She did leave a lot
38:37To get like pretzels and a coke
38:39She was like
38:40I'm gonna get pretzels
38:40I'm gonna go get a coke
38:41She's like
38:41I'm gonna shit
38:42And I was like
38:43I know you're not eating that much
38:44Jordan's always just really in your face
38:46And he is kind of a dick
38:48But I had no inkling
38:50That something was wrong
38:51With their marriage
38:52And just motivates me
38:53To make sure that my marriage
38:55Is in a good place
38:56Because it's the first time
38:58In my life
38:58That I think I've felt
38:59Safe
39:01With somebody
39:02And I talked to Jessie
39:03About it so many times
39:04Well just about like
39:05Do you think they had sex?
39:06I just
39:07I don't know what to believe
39:08Something feels very off
39:12About this
39:12With this new scandal
39:14That is about to
39:15Quite literally rock mom talk
39:17I feel like trust
39:18Is more important now
39:19Than ever
39:20In order to really trust Jessie
39:21We need to know
39:22That she's telling
39:22The whole truth
39:23I don't think anything
39:24Could have prepared us
39:25For this
39:26Oh lordy
39:27That's why I'm
39:29That's why in the church
39:29They don't like you to drink
39:30Because things like these happen
39:31We have alcohol
39:32She shouldn't have left the church
39:35I'm just kidding
39:36I'm just kidding
39:45So tonight we are in Salt Lake
40:05For Layla's birthday dinner
40:07It's all the mom talk girls
40:08Plus Miranda
40:09The dad talk guys
40:10Are just across the street
40:11We're going to meet up with them
40:13After our dinner
40:13We're here for Layla's birthday
40:15How's it going?
40:17How are you?
40:18Good
40:18Okay
40:19Thank you
40:19I appreciate it
40:20Tonight is all about
40:22Celebrating Layla
40:23However
40:24There is some mom talk business
40:26That needs to be conducted
40:27And that is the fact that
40:29Demi texted me and Michaela
40:30As soon as we got home
40:31From Jessie's
40:32And then Jessie told us
40:34That Jordan caught Brett
40:35Driving by her house
40:37When Jessie was telling us
40:38About the affair with Marciano
40:40And then Demi started making
40:41Offensive videos about mom talk
40:43Approved
40:44Excellent argument
40:46Approved
40:47I don't know what Demi wants
40:49Out of this situation
40:50Like is she trying to hurt mom talk?
40:52Something definitely feels off here
40:54Have you guys been talking more
40:55About what was going on
40:56With Jordan and Jessie?
40:59Yeah
40:59Tonight's the first time
41:07That Jordan and I
41:08Are going to go to a public event
41:10Together since we started
41:11Telling people about my affair
41:13Hi
41:13Hi
41:14What's up?
41:15What's up?
41:17Jordan did think it was a good idea
41:18That we do this together
41:19To just show that we are
41:21A united front
41:22And it means a lot to me
41:23I'm getting the steak
41:43I need my iron
41:45My meat
41:46Okay
41:50I just wanted to address
41:51A little bit of the elephant
41:52In the room
41:53And it's not us
41:56Just kidding
41:56I'm like
41:57It's not me actually
41:58So
41:59So Demi texted me and Macy
42:01And was like
42:02Oh you guys know
42:03And we were like
42:03How did she
42:04Because we had to talk to her
42:05Now that you know
42:07We can talk about it
42:08Now that you guys know
42:08Dot dot dot
42:09Like can we talk about it
42:10And how would she know
42:11That that's what we're talking about
42:12And how would she know
42:13The exact timing
42:14That we were going to be there
42:15Yeah
42:15It's just weird
42:16Oh hell
42:17Now what?
42:19Why do you care so much
42:20About what's going on
42:21If you don't want to be
42:21A part of this experience
42:22Like stay the fuck out of it then
42:24Demi knows what?
42:27I'm so confused
42:28Demi
42:30She's been trying to reach me
42:31Ever since
42:32I met with Marciano
42:33At the hotel
42:34So yeah
42:35I've been kind of
42:35Dodging her phone calls
42:36For the last little bit
42:37I just
42:40It doesn't make sense to me
42:41But okay
42:41So how did Brett know
42:42To drive by at that time?
42:45He like was driving slow
42:47Like looking
42:47Which is creepy
42:48I'm just confused
42:49Why anyone's giving
42:50Demi information right now
42:51Because Demi chose
42:53To leave MomTalk
42:54And she was a really
42:54Bad friend to me last year
42:56I don't know who the mole is
42:57But I feel like
42:58Layla and Miranda
42:59Are the two best options
43:01I also don't know
43:02Why she cares so much
43:03If you're constantly
43:04Having your husband
43:05Drive by my house
43:06That means that you left
43:07But you're still obsessed
43:08With this experience
43:09It's definitely weird
43:11I don't understand
43:12I can show you
43:13My phone logs
43:13If you want me to
43:14So Brett conveniently
43:15Drove by Jesse's house
43:16I have no idea
43:17How she did that
43:17Do you want to see
43:18My phone logs
43:18Well you can delete things
43:19It just doesn't make sense
43:20That you'd be driving by
43:22And know that I was there too
43:23When I drove in Marciano
43:25Right now
43:26For a situation
43:26That has literally
43:27Nothing to do with me
43:28You're the only one
43:28Talking to Demi
43:29No one else
43:29I didn't tell her shit
43:30I genuinely have no idea
43:32It's my birthday dinner
43:33For crying out loud
43:34Can we just lay off
43:35Of me for two seconds
43:36And let me have
43:36One goddamn good birthday
43:37I don't know
43:39Who the source is
43:39I don't know
43:40Who the mole is
43:40But it's not me
43:41And I will die
43:42On that hill
43:43That's what
43:43Year 24 is for
43:45Is not taking
43:45People's bullshit
43:46I am gonna be
43:49Nervous about anyone
43:50Who's friends with Demi
43:51Like she is up
43:52Your guys' asses
43:53Trying to get information
43:54About me
43:54Trying to talk about this
43:55She already
43:55But she didn't
43:56Get new information
43:57I'm just telling you guys
43:58I'm gonna be very cautious
43:59And aware about
43:59What I say in front of anyone
44:01Like if I was like
44:02Feeding information to people
44:03I would have told Miranda about it
44:04So you don't know
44:09Anything that's going on
44:10Just right now
44:10I know nothing
44:11She still has no idea
44:13Right now
44:13What the hell
44:14We're talking about
44:15She's so lost
44:15I don't want to like
44:17Pressure you into telling me
44:18Anything that you don't
44:19Feel comfortable telling me
44:20Marciano
44:23He told Layla
44:23We had sex
44:24And we never had sex
44:25So I'm like
44:26You're disgusting
44:27Because I kissed you
44:28Twice
44:28Oh damn
44:29I did not see that one coming
44:31That's what happened
44:34Jessie is one of the most
44:36Honest people
44:37That I've met
44:38Which is what makes
44:39This so shocking
44:40However
44:41Based on my trust issues
44:42I have a little bit
44:45Of doubt
44:46Like maybe
44:48She could be lying
44:49How are you like
44:51Doing though
44:51Are you guys doing good
44:52Or as good as you can be
44:53It's fine
44:53I mean it's up and down
44:54I think the last couple days
44:55Have been hard
44:56Just because we're trying
44:57To navigate this now
44:57But there's going to be
44:59Judgment from people
44:59Who don't know
45:00All the details
45:01And then also people
45:02Saying things that aren't true
45:03Too that I'm having to fight
45:04Like this isn't just it
45:05Coming out
45:05Now I have to fight
45:06A narrative that's not true
45:07And that's I think
45:08What's been really hard
45:09Do I feel like mom talk
45:10Is crumbling right now
45:12Like our members
45:12Are dwindling down
45:14Feels like there's a mole
45:15In the group
45:15And we also don't know
45:16For sure if Jessie
45:17Is telling the whole truth
45:18And if we can't trust each other
45:20Then what do we even have left
45:21It's really hard
45:23And I'm doing okay
45:23But like it's
45:24A lot
45:25Yeah it's a lot
45:25And for it to come out
45:27Like this sucks
45:27But me and Jordan
45:29Are just gonna like
45:29Use it as a chance
45:31To better ourselves
45:31And like go to therapy
45:33And work through this
45:34And like hopefully
45:35Come out on the other side
45:36You know
45:36Yeah
45:37So how you doing?
45:41Oh I haven't slept
45:42In a couple days
45:43So to have it all unravel
45:45It's super easy to spiral
45:47Yeah
45:48Because the whole world
45:50Is gonna know now
45:51I know
45:51And have that exposed
45:52For anyone to see
45:54I imagine is terrible
45:55It's emasculating as hell
45:57And it's embarrassing
45:58I don't want to be looked
46:00At less of a man
46:00Because my wife
46:02Did what she did
46:03And I don't want to be
46:04Looked at less of a man
46:05Because I decided
46:06To stay around
46:06Because of it
46:07If he's choosing to stay
46:08And work on it
46:10Then that's all that matters
46:10You know
46:11Sure
46:11We've been working through it
46:12So like it would have sucked
46:13If at the time
46:14It got exposed publicly
46:15Because we were like
46:15Not sure what was gonna happen
46:17So do you 100%
46:19Trust Jesse's story?
46:24I have those doubts
46:25I made a mistake
46:30Like I will never downplay that
46:31Like I did a really bad thing
46:33But I didn't do
46:34What he's saying
46:35Let's just maybe plan
46:37Anytime the girls
46:38Are going to LA
46:38Let's just go also
46:39We'll go out there
46:41What someone's gonna do
46:43Someone's gonna do
46:43And do you feel like
46:45You've 100% forgiven her?
46:46No
46:47You know
46:48I had
46:48All I gotta say is
46:50In the line of work
46:52That our wives are in
46:53My advice to you is
46:54If there's anything
46:55You guys need worked on
46:56In your own relationships
46:57Let it be the biggest
46:58Cautionary tale
46:59You've ever heard
47:00Like anything
47:00Where your relationship
47:02Might be lacking
47:02Like just work on it now
47:04But as long as
47:06The people that I know
47:07And love believe me
47:08And like know the truth
47:08And know me
47:09Like then that's all
47:10That matters
47:11You know
47:11If I find anything else out
47:13Like done
47:13Okay let's go to our
47:16Next little excursion
47:17To the next
47:18All night
47:19We up all night
47:21We up to the morning
47:23All night
47:24We up all night
47:25Hello
47:25Hi
47:27How are you?
47:29Okay it's time to get
47:30This party on track
47:31For our girl Layla
47:32I think it's clear
47:32We could all use
47:33A little bit of fun
47:34Right now
47:34But not too much fun
47:35Considering the group
47:36We're in
47:37How was it?
47:39Just like a talking about
47:40Hi how are you?
47:41How are you?
47:41Good to see you
47:42So you have a business event
47:43In the area?
47:44My friend
47:44She invited me and Jeremy
47:46To go meet her at a
47:47Another influencer event
47:49So it's just round in the corner
47:51So you're like
47:51Hopping in between the two?
47:53How are you?
47:54Good how are you?
47:55Good
47:55Thank you
47:57Thank you
47:57Thank you
47:57I know
47:59Be fucking for real
48:03Oh no
48:04Oh shit
48:05What the F
48:12Is he doing here
48:13We just can't get rid of him
48:16Hello
48:22You're here
48:23How are you doing?
48:26Chase has a podcast
48:27Where he likes to talk shit
48:29On everyone on MomTalk
48:30He insulted Jesse
48:31About her business
48:32You know the hair girl?
48:34Loaded
48:34I've heard some mixed reviews
48:36About Jay-Z Styles hair
48:37He insulted Taylor
48:38For her affair
48:39That she had
48:40Taylor Frankie ball arm
48:41He's gonna be
48:42Hating us dude
48:44And then he said something like
48:45I only have a social media platform
48:46Because my baby daddy died
48:47Died in a car accident
48:49I ain't gonna touch this one
48:52I'm just telling you what
48:52Like
48:53Yeah
48:53What made her rise to prominence
48:55Chase is a scumbag
48:56And no one even listens
48:57To his podcast
48:58So good luck with your
48:5920 views you get
49:00Not only am I worried
49:14About Chase finding out
49:15About the affair
49:16And exposing that
49:17On his podcast reviews
49:18But if he hears about
49:19The lie that Marciano's
49:20Saying about me
49:21He's gonna definitely
49:22Try to blow that up
49:23And make it bigger than it is
49:24That's his MO
49:25Especially with MomTalk
49:26Earlier Chase called me
49:44To apologize for things
49:46He said in the past
49:46About MomTalk
49:47Because I wanted to
49:48First and foremost say
49:49That I apologize
49:52Wholeheartedly
49:53For the things that I said
49:54On the podcast
49:55I probably should have
49:56This conversation
49:56With a couple other people
49:58Yeah
49:58I invited Chase tonight
50:00Because he said
50:01He wanted to come
50:01And apologize to all
50:02The other girls
50:03And their husbands
50:04And he's also dating
50:05My really good friend Kate
50:06So I felt like
50:06It was only fair
50:07To let him come tonight
50:08And give him the opportunity
50:09What's new with you?
50:10Are you still dating Mindy?
50:12No
50:12No
50:13We haven't had a few weeks ago
50:15How about you?
50:15I heard you
50:16I've seen him for a little bit
50:18Yeah
50:18And then we broke up
50:18Like two months ago
50:20Just didn't work out
50:21Just different morals
50:22Didn't align
50:22He wanted someone
50:23That was more like
50:24Active in the church
50:25And things like that
50:27And that's not me
50:27So
50:28Yeah
50:29What are you doing?
50:32I don't see Mary
50:33Because it's really similar there
50:34Do you want to go to the bathroom
50:35Really quick?
50:35Let's go
50:36We're going to run to the restroom
50:37Real quick
50:38Me and Chase
50:42We had a really good talk
50:43About just like
50:44Kind of laying on the sword
50:45And like apologizing
50:46Yeah
50:47I'm not going to be
50:48Having a conversation
50:49We had a lot of different things going so
50:51Are you guys okay?
50:52We'll talk later
50:53Is Jesse okay?
50:55Yeah
50:55She's good?
50:56Okay
50:56Kate has always been like
50:58A long time family friend
51:00But I know that Chase
51:02Is going to try and get his
51:03Five minutes of fame tonight
51:04And I'm just not in a place
51:06To give that to him right now
51:07How are we doing?
51:09Oh we're doing so good
51:10Layla I was not expecting
51:11You know our favorite person
51:13To walk in the door today
51:14I know
51:15I did
51:15Yeah he gave me a call
51:17He did what?
51:18He called me
51:19So?
51:20Who gives a shit?
51:24I feel like if I'm good with him though
51:26No I'm fucking pissed
51:28Because I invited someone
51:30To my birthday
51:31Yeah but don't tell us
51:31He's not coming
51:32He called me before this
51:34You wanted to tell us the dinner
51:34Why didn't you tell us then?
51:36Why didn't you tell us
51:36Because it's my birthday thing
51:37You can still give us a heads up
51:39Without your friends
51:40When you're uncomfortable
51:41Around a man
51:42That has a racist online
51:43For a year
51:44It is appropriate
51:45To give up
51:45Exactly
51:46We're not over it
51:48We don't want to be
51:49Around that kind of person
51:50Who would have been like
51:50Hey by the way
51:51He is coming
51:52Like he is
51:52Like sorry
51:53What would that have changed?
51:54Then maybe wouldn't have come at all
51:56Honestly just like
52:02Really fucking pissed right now
52:04I wanted to give him
52:04The opportunity to come tonight
52:06And just kind of
52:06Leave the past in the past
52:08I'm in this era right now
52:09I'm trying to stand up for myself
52:10So this upsets some of the girls
52:12Me inviting him
52:13Then that's their issue
52:15He didn't think it was that big a video
52:16It's not even about that
52:17Then what is it?
52:18I don't give a shit
52:19To explain it to you actually
52:20Okay
52:21Because you're being like
52:21Is that me too?
52:23It pisses me off
52:24Because you don't give us
52:25This perspective telling us
52:27Is there a good time?
52:28Can we chat?
52:29Yeah
52:30You'll probably
52:32You'll get that opportunity
52:33It's just not going to be tonight
52:34Sure
52:35Let's just say this
52:37If he's a leech
52:38And wanting to leech onto something
52:39If someone doesn't want
52:40A leech to be on them
52:41They have the right
52:42To just not go to an event
52:43Okay yeah
52:43You guys have every right
52:44To leave right now
52:45I'm not staying here
52:48You guys make literally
52:50Everything so fucking negative
52:51All the time
52:51Well great
52:52Happy birthday
52:53Okay thanks so much
52:55All Chase does is trash talk
52:58Mom talk for clout
52:59Because that's the only way
53:00He can get views
53:01And to me
53:02It's very disrespectful
53:03That Layla would allow him
53:04To come
53:05Jessie really mad at me
53:07I think
53:08I think like
53:08Something is going on
53:09With our friend
53:10I don't know what's going on here
53:13They just started fighting
53:14If we are your friends
53:15Then you would have told us
53:16So clearly we're not friends to you
53:18So you're going to choose
53:19This disgusting man
53:20Who's talked so much shit on you
53:21And all your friends
53:21Over us
53:22I can't
53:24I'm sorry
53:25What the hell is going on
53:27I feel like
53:29He's said things about
53:31People in life
53:31I'm not going to discredit
53:32What he's done
53:33I'm staying until
53:35Jessie leaves I guess
53:36After someone apologizes
53:37I move on
53:38You're validated
53:39In that
53:39We do not need
53:40A big dramatic fight
53:41At Layla's birthday party
53:42Especially because of
53:44What just happened in my life
53:45What I'm now bringing
53:46To mom talk
53:46I just want to get
53:47In the middle of this
53:48And try to remedy it
53:49I feel like the reaction
53:51Is so over the top
53:53And unnecessary
53:53And I feel like
53:54That's what's like
53:54That's their feeling
53:55And so they just
53:56Then communicate that
53:58Then rather than
53:58Like blowing up
53:59And like cussing
54:00I'm just so tired
54:01Of this shit
54:01Being at this party
54:03Feels overwhelming
54:04Jessie and I are
54:05In a place of crisis
54:06And for Jessie
54:08To be getting involved
54:09In the drama
54:10Feels
54:11Like I don't have any value
54:13I shouldn't have to
54:14Give, give, give, give, give
54:15And they don't want to
54:16Bring that in
54:17That's fine
54:17That has nothing to do with me
54:18There's just no reason
54:19I'm just sick of
54:21Painting this smile
54:22This doesn't sit well
54:23With me
54:24And I can't be here
54:25Right now
54:25But we should
54:28Don't leave him
54:29He's not leaving
54:30With Jessie here
54:31He just left
54:34Dude, I just
54:38I just can't be
54:38In here anymore
54:39I met Van Ryder
54:43Jessie's yelling
54:46At Layla
54:46And then Jessie's
54:48Talking shit
54:49About Chase
54:50And it's just like
54:50Dude, like
54:51If you want to come pick me up
54:52If you want to come pick me up
54:52I just can't be around this anymore
54:54Right now I feel
54:59Frankly, emotionally abandoned
55:00By my wife
55:01Makes you really think about
55:03Who you made your choice
55:05In deciding to marry
55:07And it is something that
55:09I do need to take some time
55:11To figure out for myself
55:12And
55:13I don't know what's going to happen
55:15Jordan left, by the way
55:34What do you mean?
55:35He went home
55:36Like, went home?
55:37Are you sure?
55:37And today I saw him
55:38Going in the elevator
55:39Oh my god
55:40Welcome in, bitches
55:49Hey, let's go
55:50Are we going to die?
55:51We don't know yet
55:51Woo!
55:52Love Talk Survive!
55:54Any of you guys done anal?
55:56Either you swing
55:57Or you have anal sex
55:58She has a good ass
55:59I've been wanting
56:00To talk to you guys
56:01Do we have to do that here?
56:03Love Talk Survive!
56:04Love Talk Survive!
56:06It's like a common theme
56:07In our friendship
56:08It's toxic men
56:09You have to act
56:13And be a certain way
56:14For people to love
56:15And accept you
56:16And for God to accept you
56:17You know I support you
56:18Either way
56:19Yeah
56:19There's a lot of things
56:21I don't resonate with anymore
56:22When it comes to the church
56:23I just wanted to fit in
56:24Really badly
56:25In Utah
56:25I get called whitewashed a lot
56:27The fact that you even
56:28Were going to try
56:29And keep this a secret
56:30You're my mom
56:31Stop sticking up for him
56:32Please
56:33We're fighting for our marriages
56:34And the girls are just
56:35Putting us through hell
56:36He's feeling rejected
56:38It's getting harder
56:40If the roles were reversed
56:42You guys wouldn't be okay
56:43With it
56:43No one said leave Jordan
56:44I wish we got that
56:45Why did you lie to Layla about us?
56:50I was being influenced
56:51Influenced by who?
56:56Everyone's just a little concerned
56:57That you're still
56:58Posted to me
56:59We have a leak
57:01In mom talk
57:02I don't like to give anyone
57:04Blind loyalty
57:05Would you be open
57:06To the lie detector test?
57:07You ready?
57:08Moment of truth
57:09He's literally sitting right here
57:10Holy good fuck
57:12What are you doing?
57:15Why are you here?
57:16We're not going to have people
57:16Coming and going
57:17Why are you here today?
57:18I'm going to start
57:19My own mom talk
57:20I'm sorry
57:21I'm sorry
57:21Sorry
57:22We need to come together
57:24They can be the crazy ones
57:25You know nothing
57:26You know nothing
57:28She turned the whole group against me
57:30That proves exactly who you are
57:32That will make your life
57:33A miserable fucking hell
57:34Look at the bottom of this
57:36Alright
57:36How do you want to start this?
57:39Mom talk is sisterhood
57:41We're going to get through anything
57:56We're going to get through anything
57:57We're going to get through anything
57:58We're going to get through anything
57:59We're going to get through anything
58:00We're going to get through anything
58:01We're going to get through anything
58:02We're going to get through anything
58:03We're going to get through anything
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58:05We're going to get through anything
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58:07We're going to get through anything
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58:10We're going to get through anything
58:11We're going to get through anything
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