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00:00If Jenna confirms Dakota is still lying, I'm done.
00:04I said, are you dating Taylor?
00:06And he told me no.
00:07No, it's just for clout.
00:10All I wanted is a family.
00:13You're sitting there telling me that he came over
00:15and had sex with you?
00:16What does that say about you?
00:17That's what I'm saying.
00:19I was trash.
00:20Is that Miranda?
00:21Holy shit.
00:22Wait, she looks hot.
00:24Ladies.
00:25Miranda and her ex-husband Chase were the couple
00:27involved in the swinging with Taylor and her ex-husband.
00:30You've never touched a wiener.
00:32Never touched a wiener.
00:33I came here to take accountability, and so, yeah.
00:36We've had sex in the same room.
00:37Like, we had crazy parties in Mexico.
00:39Ryan, would you believe him?
00:41Fuck you, you're a liar.
00:43Your girlfriend's literally crying.
00:45What is your husband?
00:46Brett.
00:47I don't want to have a worthless shake.
00:49He just laid his hands on me.
00:50What the hell?
00:51You're up to my wife.
00:52I'm going to work.
00:54Have you watched Secret Lesson?
00:55No.
00:57I can't do this.
00:59Will you please cut the camera?
01:00I don't even know where my marriage is at.
01:03I just kind of thought that I don't want to be here anymore.
01:07I'm focusing on my mental health.
01:10Hope to talk to you soon.
01:13Yep, I'm pregnant.
01:14Hot dogs.
01:16Who's pregnant?
01:17It's me.
01:18No one is not.
01:20Who is behind you?
01:21I don't know.
01:22We're going to play Targna C Roulette.
01:25We have some new mom talk drama.
01:31It was awkward that every single one of my friends was silent.
01:35Demi has now gone off the rails.
01:38She doesn't think you're good at hair, and she told me not to go to you for hair, and that's
01:42why I went to a different salon, because she doesn't think you're good at all, and she
01:45said that she's stuck in a thing with you.
01:46Huh?
01:47To see what she's capable of doing online to her friend, if Taylor's in, I'm out.
01:52If you feel that way, the door's there.
01:54Okay.
01:55Bye, guys.
01:56I can't believe I'm about to say this out loud, but I think I want to come back into
02:01mom talk.
02:02Majority rule.
02:03She's back in.
02:04Confetti.
02:05Is that okay with everyone?
02:06Yeah.
02:07I guess we'll see.
02:08Demi and Brett, specifically, they have more skeletons in their closet.
02:12Does Jen know they're skeletons?
02:14Hmm.
02:15Some things went down in Italy, like she was literally playing truth or dare with a ton
02:19of single men.
02:20Did she kiss them?
02:21I can't.
02:22I can't.
02:23It's not even just Demi.
02:25It's a rumor that wasn't a rumor.
02:28Did you guys fuck?
02:29Yeah.
02:30It's not just like a one-time hookup thing.
02:32No, it's a full-blown fucking affair.
02:45I'm a little sad that we're not with the rest of the crew.
02:50Jessie absolutely confirms that she did block Demi and said, and I'd do it again.
02:56Oh, I wish I could say that I regret the way that I handled that.
02:59I don't.
03:00Demi officially walked away from Montauk.
03:02I have heard from multiple sources.
03:04There was more going on between Demi and Marciano during Vanderpump Villa.
03:08I think there's definitely a lot of moments that were not shown.
03:12Do you think the ladies will have opinions about your absence?
03:16For sure.
03:17They have opinions about everything.
03:18But yeah, I don't really care.
03:20Come ye saints and come ye sinners.
03:22Alleluia.
03:23Listen up.
03:24I'm the one you've been dreaming of.
03:25I've got everything you could ever want.
03:27Try me in your sleep, I'll bring you to your knees.
03:29Baby, you're gonna believe in you.
03:30No.
03:31No.
03:32No.
03:33No.
03:34No.
03:35No.
03:36No.
03:37No.
03:38No.
03:39No.
03:40No.
03:41No.
03:42To your knees, baby, you're gonna believe
03:45Take us running through temptation
03:56Take us running through temptation
04:04Take us running through temptation
04:08Take us running through temptation
04:13Take us running through temptation
04:17Take us running through temptation
04:21Take us running through temptation
04:25Time for work
04:26All guests, no break
04:27All work, no play
04:29Make no mistake
04:31No give or take
04:32Let's go
04:33Don't stop, just like that
04:35Something gonna work
04:37Hey, guess what?
04:38You're gonna go to church with daddy
04:41Dada
04:43Here you go
04:44Mmm, big bite
04:45Yummy
04:46Good job
04:48The last year has been a lot
04:51You're exhausted, I'm exhausted
04:53I feel like taking a good step back
04:56And I don't wanna be alone
04:57And it sucks because I do
04:58I have to be alone now
05:00I know
05:01I have been praying more than I ever have
05:04And I came to a point where I wanted to take a step back
05:08And focus on my mental health
05:10I talked to my therapist
05:11And I decided that I wanted to attend a therapy retreat for the next two weeks
05:17Hi, Ever
05:18Who is that?
05:19You ready to go to church?
05:20What about that?
05:21Yeah, yeah, yeah
05:22Dada
05:23Dada
05:24Dada
05:25I know buddy
05:26Look how cool that is
05:27I hate getting clothes on me too
05:29I'm glad you're here though
05:31Yeah
05:32It's so hard to do this by yourself
05:33Oh, I know
05:34Like we're getting ready
05:35When it's really hard though is when I have the other two
05:37Oh yeah, I know
05:38I think about that
05:39Dakota is gonna take Ever
05:41Because he's gonna be watching him while I'm gone at the retreat
05:44I don't like leaving my kids that long
05:47However, I feel like it's needed
05:49Dakota and I have been participating in toxic cycles
05:54So I want to go and better myself
05:58And his part is up to him
06:00Are you sure you don't wanna come?
06:03To church?
06:04Yeah
06:05Um, I think I'm just feeling a little exhausted
06:07But thank you for the invite
06:08When it comes to church
06:10I only go for like
06:11The foundations of it
06:12Like
06:13Love, family, service
06:14And I like going
06:15But I like to go when I want to go
06:17It's like a personal thing for me
06:19And I know not a lot of people can live in the gray
06:21But for me, I can
06:23You wanna say bye?
06:24I love you
06:25Say bye
06:26Bye
06:27Okay, here we go
06:28There are some mom talk events going on
06:31While I'm gone
06:32But the girls are very supportive
06:34As all of us as mothers
06:36Your mental health comes first
06:37Cause if you don't have that
06:38You don't have anything
06:39I just hope all the girls will be able to survive
06:41A couple of events without me
06:43So, we'll see
06:45Look out there
06:46Oh
06:47Oh
06:50Have fun at church
06:51Good luck
06:53Ready?
06:54Let's get it
07:07Wow, these interviews are harder now
07:08I'm fatter
07:09I can't even breathe
07:10Okay
07:11Let's get it
07:12Let's get it
07:13Oh
07:14Oh
07:15You're so beautiful
07:16Thanks for having me
07:18I work with me
07:19Thank you
07:20I know
07:21Oh yeah
07:22I'm a little over 20 weeks pregnant
07:23I'm a little over 20 weeks pregnant
07:24And I'm starting to feel it
07:25Like my back and my boobs be hurting
07:28But I need to show up to this event
07:30Because we don't really know what's going on with MomTalk right now
07:32And we need to have a united friend
07:33So I feel like it's really important for the rest of us to all be there
07:36Hi
07:37Oh my gosh
07:38This is not good for my sweet tooth
07:39I know
07:40Those are sour
07:41I'm going to get like acid reflux
07:42I feel like MomTalk is at its absolute lowest right now
07:47Taylor and Jen are on a mental health break
07:50And Whitney left MomTalk again
07:52It's not a shock
07:53Recently, we all renegotiated our contracts
07:55But Whitney apparently didn't want more money
07:57She wanted tickets to the Oscars
07:59And a scripted role in another TV show
08:01And clearly, she's not here
08:02So she didn't get it
08:03No one has heard from her in two weeks
08:04So in my head, I feel like she's out
08:05All my prayers have been answered
08:06And the church is true
08:08Amen
08:09Leigh Ann's here?
08:10Just coming back to me
08:11Oh my God
08:12Oh my God
08:13Oh my God
08:14Oh my God
08:15Oh my God
08:16Oh my God
08:17Oh my God
08:18Oh my God
08:19Oh my God
08:20Oh my God
08:21Oh my God
08:22Oh my God
08:24Oh my God
08:25Oh my God
08:26Oh my God
08:27Oh my God
08:28Oh my God
08:29Oh my God
08:30Yeah, heart
08:31Who else is here?
08:32Well, where's Demi?
08:33Does it matter?
08:34I haven't seen Demi since she was trying to tell
08:36All the girls to choose between her or Taylor
08:39And we all sided with Taylor
08:41There was a little part of me that thought
08:43After this last MomTalk meeting
08:44That Demi would come back to MomTalk
08:46And everyone would make up
08:47But with the new season
08:49She was wanting to get paid
08:50Three times more than everyone
08:51And when she didn't get that
08:53She officially walked away from MomTalk
08:56Whitney and Demi are out of MomTalk
08:58But it somehow seems like they're still friends
09:00And they've created some sort of alliance
09:02They have been going to influencer events together
09:04But they're also still invested in what we are doing in MomTalk
09:07So I feel like time will tell
09:09If they're actually going to stay out of MomTalk for long
09:11We don't drink alcohol or do drugs
09:14And so it's kind of our vice
09:15Whitney and I did ketamine
09:17It feels like Whitney and Demi are kind of taunting us
09:20And it's pretty bad timing
09:21Because we are busier than ever with non-stop events
09:24So the rest of us who are in MomTalk
09:26Have to just focus on staying strong and united during this time
09:30I am sick to my stomach
09:36A couple weeks ago
09:37I was told by Marciano that Marciano and Jessie have been having an affair
09:41And I'm super nervous going into tonight
09:43I'm seeing Jessie for the first time since I found out
09:46It's not that I necessarily want to tell Jessie at the major tour of it
09:49But I just feel like I can't see her face to face
09:51And act like everything is okay
09:52I love Jessie and I want to hear her side of it
09:54But this isn't talking about like her shoes are ugly
09:56Like this is something that could destroy her family
09:58And I really don't know what to do
10:00Hi!
10:01Hello, did you just grab my ass?
10:03I'm like so weird
10:05Uh oh, it's not close
10:07She's so magnetic
10:08But we didn't know
10:10She really had me
10:11What happened in the white dress?
10:12This is stunning
10:13You look so good
10:15You look good
10:16Thanks for sending me a picture of your dress
10:17I almost forgot, I'm sorry
10:18Oh, sorry
10:19Forgive you
10:20Although I might not be technically in MomTalk
10:22The influencing world in Utah is small
10:24So we do find ourselves at a lot of the same events
10:27Not too long ago
10:28I wasn't sure that I wanted to be part of the group
10:30And I do still have friendship with Demi and Whitney
10:34But since Demi and Whitney have left
10:36I'm surprised by how much calmer the group seems
10:40And I'm starting to think that maybe this is a good place to be
10:44Now I just need to get the girls to officially vote me back in
10:47How funny is that? Just us
10:49Like waddling around
10:50So at the Minky Couture event
10:55When the DJ rings the bell
10:56You have to run to any number you find
10:58And wait
10:59And if the DJ calls that number
11:00Then you win a prize
11:01And even though I'm over 20 weeks pregnant
11:03When there's a competition for a designer bag
11:06You bet you'll see my ass sprinting to win that bag
11:09Mikaela get that one
11:11Up for grabs is a coach blackbird
11:13How about the leader of MomTalk
11:15Just kidding
11:16That's me Mikaela
11:17Demi runs through the door
11:18All of a sudden she walks up
11:19Did you say the leader of MomTalk
11:20The number is 39
11:23That was 38
11:25Dang it Mikaela we're losing
11:28This whole thing has been so stressful
11:30I hate having this information
11:32When it comes down to it
11:33This is Jessie, Jordan and Marciano's business
11:36I'm so confused right now
11:47Because I didn't ever think Jessie would be the person that would cheat
11:50I can't see her doing this
11:51And I just I don't know Marciano can be completely lying
11:54So I just want to protect Jessie and find out the truth
11:57And I know that's just by telling her first
12:02Hey
12:03Hey
12:04Hey
12:05Are you here yet?
12:06I'm just about to get away
12:07Okay
12:08I'm gonna come to your car and talk to you for a sec
12:10Okay
12:11Okay, bye
12:12Okay, bye
12:13Woo!
12:14Is 22 your lucky number?
12:17It's not my lucky number
12:18Because 22 is the winner
12:20Hi
12:28Hey, how are you?
12:29I love that dress
12:30Thank you, you look so pretty
12:31You look pretty
12:32Do you just want to go in my car for a sec?
12:33Yes
12:34Yeah, where's your car?
12:35See just right here
12:36Yes
12:37How are you?
12:38I'm good
12:39Um
12:40I like don't even know where to like start
12:42Okay
12:43With this
12:44Um
12:45This isn't like easy
12:46I'm literally gonna cry thinking about it
12:48Because I feel just bad that this has to like come out like the way that it is
12:51Um
12:52So I met with Marciano
12:56To
12:57See what was the truth behind like him and Denis
13:00I just kind of want to like get the truth
13:01Yeah
13:02Um
13:03And I went into it
13:04And thinking that he was only gonna say that
13:06And he told me that
13:09You guys have been having an affair the past couple months
13:17Okay
13:18Um
13:28There's so much more to that story
13:30But
13:31I'm so confused and so overwhelmed by this situation right now
13:37I'm just internally freaking out so much
13:40Because
13:41I've been hiding the secret of my affair for a while
13:44I'll tell you the truth
13:46I'll tell you the truth
13:47I'll tell you the truth
13:50I've been hoping and praying this secret would never come out
13:52It's the biggest mistake I've ever made in my whole life
13:55But I now have to face what I did, own it, and tell the truth
14:00Jordan and I have been struggling
14:03We've been really up and down
14:04And
14:06We did separate back in September
14:08No one knew
14:09And then I went to L.A.
14:10Marciana was there
14:11And I didn't go into it thinking anything was gonna happen at all
14:13Like I didn't even know he was coming until the day before
14:15Okay
14:16And then we were drinking and stuff
14:18I kissed him twice
14:20We did have an emotional affair if that's what you want to call it
14:23Yep
14:24But on my end like I was just looking for like validation
14:27Like I was just so heartbroken
14:29And like hurt over like what was going on in my life
14:31That I just needed a distraction
14:32That's really what it was
14:33Jordan's known for six months
14:35So he's known the whole time
14:37As soon as I told Jordan about the affair
14:39I cut it off immediately
14:41We decided to keep this affair private
14:43Because we're gonna stay together
14:44And we didn't need outside opinions and voices
14:47So I am furious at Marciano
14:50The last time we had talked it was like I have your back
14:52And to see him just turn on me so quickly is so confusing
14:55Because I don't know what the purpose is
14:59He told me that you guys hooked up
15:01What does he mean by hooked up?
15:03Like what do you mean?
15:04Like had sex
15:07Are you kidding me?
15:08He said we had sex?
15:09Yes
15:10Oh my fucking hell
15:12I can't
15:13I can't
15:14We did not have sex
15:16Absolutely not
15:17Like
15:18No
15:19I really don't know who to believe at this point
15:22I want to believe my best friend
15:23I feel like that's
15:25Logically the person that I should lean towards believing
15:28But I just feel like there's no way to tell who's lying and telling the truth
15:32But he told me that you came at him
15:34That you
15:35The first second you saw him
15:36You like wrapped your legs around him
15:37And you're like embracing him this big hug
15:39Yeah I jumped up and hugged him
15:40And he grabbed my legs and pulled them up
15:42But I hugged him because he's taller than me
15:43So I had to go up
15:44Like he's a victim
15:45Like I came at him
15:46No it was mutual
15:47He literally said the words like he
15:48That you manipulated him
15:52Yeah
15:53Are you kidding?
15:54But like why would Marciano like make this up?
15:55I don't know
15:57Like I almost want to like call him right now
15:59Would you be open to that?
16:00Yeah let's do it
16:01Hi what's up?
16:06Hey what are you doing?
16:07Working out
16:08Um I just have a question
16:10I was able to talk to Jessie
16:12And Jessie saying that you guys never had sex
16:15So I just like
16:19I did admit to everything else
16:20Yeah
16:21She admitted to everything else though
16:22She said that like you guys kissed
16:24But she like swore in like her kids life basically
16:26That she never had sex with you
16:28I said that that was what was going to happen
16:30I don't know what you want me to say
16:31If that's her prerogative
16:32Then that's her prerogative
16:33Like
16:34I don't know what you want me to say
16:36That's fine
16:37If that's what she's saying
16:38Then I'm just
16:39Yeah
16:40At this point like
16:41Hey Marciano I'm here
16:42Hey
16:43Marciano I'm here
16:44So
16:45But you know like genuinely
16:46You know that didn't happen right?
16:47Oh my god
16:50Okay
16:52I remember I took a Cialis
16:53And I remember like I
16:55Had like
16:56Cum stains in my shorts
16:59But okay
17:00Whatever you say
17:01We did not have sex
17:02That didn't happen
17:05Okay
17:06It didn't
17:07You know that
17:08Okay
17:09Sounds good
17:10Okay
17:11Bye
17:13That Marciano is saying we had sex
17:15Is mind boggling to me
17:17It's like for me
17:18I'm the one who did something wrong
17:19But you're making it sound
17:21Ten times worse
17:22When I know I didn't do that
17:25I'm freaking Layla
17:26Where is she?
17:28Where is that skinny bitch?
17:30I'm surprised Jessie's not here
17:31And hasn't sent anything to us
17:32Cause I'm like we're supposed to go to this together
17:35Where the heck you at ho?
17:40Damn this food looks good
17:41What are those? Potatoes?
17:42Beetle potatoes I think
17:44I wish we had our location
17:45All right
17:46Here we go
17:47My Caleb
17:49Coach
17:50Shoulder bag
17:52Can't answer
17:54I'm so confused
17:5543
17:56Damn it
17:57Wait
17:58That's me
17:59That's me
18:01That's me
18:02What the heck?
18:03Congratulations
18:04Ain't no party by Kamiki party
18:05That's not what happened
18:06Like I don't know if there's
18:07Like how I'm gonna prove this
18:08But I will prove this
18:09I'm so sorry
18:11Like everyone's gonna be affected by this
18:13I feel so bad
18:18It's gonna be okay
18:20No this is like my worst nightmare
18:21Like this is something that like
18:22Me and Jordan have been struggling with
18:24And like I didn't ever think would come out
18:25Cause we've worked through it
18:26But like now he's gonna be affected
18:28Our kids are gonna be affecting our families
18:29Like I just feel so bad
18:32You're not a bad person Jessie
18:33You were going through a hard time
18:34You and Jordan were literally on a break
18:36Like I just don't want anyone to blame Jordan
18:37Like I just it's my fault
18:38I think I'm gonna go so I can talk to Jordan
18:41I'm sorry
18:42And then I'll fill you in tomorrow
18:43But thank you for telling me
18:44So you know I haven't told any of the girls
18:45They had no idea
18:46Thank you
18:47They didn't even know that I walked out right now
18:48So
18:49I'm gonna tell everyone
18:51I'm a little bit panicked
18:52Because I never thought Marciano would talk about
18:54Our affair on camera
18:56And when this airs
18:57It's all going public
18:58And I have a lot of people in my life
19:00That are still actively Mormons
19:02And infidelity is definitely frowned upon in the church
19:06And I'm really afraid of the backlash that's gonna come with it
19:19The worst part of this whole thing is that Marciano is lying
19:22He said we had sex and we didn't
19:24I'm terrified that Jordan's gonna believe him over me
19:27I've worked really hard to earn his trust back
19:29And now it feels like all of that progress is just gonna go out the window
19:35Hey, um
19:36So Layla talked to Marciano and he told her everything
19:40What?
19:41It's all coming out and I'm freaking out
19:44Yeah
19:45When the camera's home we're done with the show
19:48I can't do this
19:49Okay, I'm coming home
19:51I cried myself to sleep last night
20:12But then I had to wake up and be a mom
20:14And not let my kids know what's going on
20:16I don't want them to feel that from me
20:19Just having to like do that while I'm dying inside
20:22Is really hard
20:24I filled Jordan in last night on everything that happened
20:27He was obviously not happy
20:28His first reactions were like
20:29We're not talking about this
20:31Like I don't wanna do this
20:33And it reopened some wounds
20:35But as we started discussing it more
20:37He did agree that we're gonna share this story
20:39And we're gonna try to get through it the best we can
20:42Hey, baby
20:43Hey
20:45Um, I just took the kids to school
20:48How were you feeling after last night?
20:49Just wanted to
20:51Chat and
20:52Kind of like see where you're at
20:57I just feel broken
20:58Me too
20:59I'm sorry
21:00I'm sorry I'm the one that did that to you
21:02I don't deserve to be treated this way
21:04I don't deserve the deceit
21:06I'm sorry for now how it's coming out
21:08I don't know why I did it
21:10Um
21:12Obviously we've had our struggles
21:13But I think it has more to do with me
21:15And I was being stupid
21:17And I was going through a lot
21:18And I made stupid decisions
21:19And I'm really sorry for what I did to you
21:22There's dark parts of me that just
21:25Sometimes I wanna throw up my hands
21:26And just say I don't wanna do this anymore
21:29Can I live with that lingering disrespect?
21:32Can I live with that emasculating feelings
21:35That your decisions gave me?
21:37His narrative is completely changing now
21:40And there are things that make me question the story
21:45Um
21:46I just wanna reiterate that
21:47I've been honest with you about what's happened
21:49And if there was more to the story
21:51I would tell you right now
21:52Right now
22:04But the question that I have to ask myself is
22:07Are you still the person that I wanna be with?
22:09Seeing how upset Jordan is
22:13Just kind of solidifies the thoughts I've been having
22:16That this is all my fault
22:18And this is so detrimental to our relationship
22:21And to him as a person
22:23Just like knowing what I've done to our family
22:25And like
22:28That I've put us in this situation
22:30Makes me really sad
22:31And I just feel so regretful
22:34And I'm so disappointed in myself
22:38I think the only like silver lining I feel right now
22:40Is you can tell your friends and your family
22:42And get comfort hopefully
22:45And I think that'll be healing for you
22:48For me
22:49I have to tell the girls
22:50And I'm just
22:52I'm so scared to talk to them
22:53I am really nervous to tell the girls about this
22:56Because once this gets out
22:58It's another scandal for MomTalk
23:00And that's really shitty
23:01Because MomTalk
23:02We've been trying to get back together
23:04And like be a sisterhood again
23:05And I feel like this is just gonna break things apart
23:10I'm so sorry
23:11I'm so sorry
23:26Hello
23:27Hi
23:28Dude, did your baby get so hard?
23:29Like look how hard it is right now
23:31It probably goes on its back
23:32And just like pushes up
23:33Where's Jessie by the way?
23:34I'm like she better be here to do my hair
23:36I don't think she's coming
23:38Also I hope not
23:39Because I parked in her spot
23:40So
23:41Jessie didn't show up at the Minky event
23:43And now she's not here
23:44To get our hair done for Layla's birthday
23:46We have not heard from her
23:47No texts, no calls
23:49When Jessie is sick
23:50She still comes around
23:51She'll be puking and come hug you
23:53Which I think is disgusting
23:55But anyways
23:56I feel like I'm getting a little concerned
23:58Because it's very out of the ordinary for her
24:00I feel like she's being weird
24:01She is being weird
24:02And she's so responsive
24:03And she's not being responsive
24:05Tell me all your secrets, secrets, secrets
24:08Tell me all your secrets
24:11I'm still getting over everything that happened last night
24:14A lot of things are definitely not adding up
24:16But at the end of the day this isn't my story to tell
24:19And I feel like it's only fair to let Jessie tell the other girls herself
24:22Hey
24:23Hi
24:24Happy birthday
24:25Who's going to curl my hair?
24:26Happy birthday
24:27Our hairstylist who's missing
24:28At this point, I'm just going to take a step back
24:30and try to focus on my birthday this week
24:31Wait, your birthday soon too, huh?
24:32First week
24:34When is it the 17th? How old are you turning 25 my birthday gift was waiting leaving mom talk again. I'm dead
24:43So who from mom talks all going for your birthday party tomorrow the four of us
24:50It's me you Miranda and Jessie, but I also invited Kate so that means that I'm feel like Chase will probably come
24:58What are you talking?
24:59Everyone's leaving why would you want to be around him? I'm trying to be good with people
25:04Well, don't be
25:06Chase is Miranda's ex-husband
25:08Obviously chase was involved in the swinging situation
25:11I used to see chase a little bit as well and now he's saying my friend kate and I feel like it's so awkward to invite her
25:16But not her boyfriend. I mean just like who would do that. I'm not gonna be anything that he's at
25:22It was like someone in mom talk we'd suck it up and still go like
25:25Mikaela would go if whitney was going right, but she just wouldn't enjoy it. I can't handle toxic men
25:29I could probably handle toxic women a lot better. It's the men
25:32I feel like if he's goes he's gonna start something. I already feel it
25:35Layla got duped by to me and she got duped by whitney and now she's getting duped by chase
25:40I can be duped by women, but not toxic men
25:43So I feel like layla is being a little bit naive in this situation and with everything going on right now
25:48We should be protecting mom talk. I just cannot
25:51I know that some of the girls have their feelings about chase and mom talk barely survived the halloween party
25:58They're talking about you. Yeah, your boyfriend's a fucking liar. You're lying. Hey, we're not doing this here. No, no get out
26:04So that was fun
26:06But kate and miranda both are assuring me that chase has been doing a lot of changing recently and he's just becoming a better person
26:12And he has a really cute brother named mason that I kind of want to get to know
26:15He's just a walking red flag, but if he's dating kate and if she's gonna start coming around more
26:22Why would you come around more we don't even know her
26:26Because she's my friend
26:29I'm really trying to work on finding my voice in this group and I just don't want to make anyone uncomfortable
26:34But I don't know what to do in this situation
26:39What are you wearing to your birthday so the vibe is slutty not when we're pregnant it's not yes it is
26:45You can be slutty and pregnant. How do you think you got pregnant?
26:49On accident. Just kidding. I was going to say we did it
27:02What's up dude? How are you? Good. How are you doing man? Oh, you know, you want a drink? Yeah, what do you got?
27:10I got your favorites. Yeah, don't show me your alcohol. Yeah, no, no, not that not those
27:15You
27:18Dakota has been someone who I've gotten really close to let's go sit down for a minute
27:22I want to talk to you about something
27:24He's the first person that I'm going to be telling about the Marciano situation
27:28He's the only person that I know that's dealt with relationship struggles on such a public level and keeping this bottled up has been hell
27:37Dude, I wanted to invite you over because you've been like super
27:41You've been super
27:43You've been super vulnerable with me
27:46and um
27:48I've been holding something in for a minute and uh
27:52It's just been eating me alive
27:54so when um
27:56Jesse went out to
27:58L.A. for press
28:00Marciano was there and they went out to the bars and uh
28:03She ended up having some drinks and they ended up um kissing a couple times and she basically had like
28:11Like an emotional affair for a few weeks
28:16It's just been tough because I haven't had anyone to talk to about it
28:19Bro
28:20Oh
28:22Dude, first off
28:23Bro
28:24I'm pretty surprised mostly just because Jordan kept it from me for so long
28:35That's just a lot to carry around
28:37Obviously from what I've gone through in my life. I'm not judging Jesse and I I can't I just feel for both of them
28:45I just hope that they can figure it out
28:47It's gonna be tough
28:50It's about you know explaining this to my oldest daughter
28:56That situation is so hard because just being a dad now for myself it really puts things in perspective about like just your family
29:05And just the lanes that you'll go to protect that that's a tough spot to be in
29:10It's super emasculating
29:12A hundred percent it would uh
29:14It would do the same to me just remember dude at the end of the day
29:18It's between you and jesse like
29:20Don't listen to anybody on the outside
29:23Yeah
29:24Everything coming out. I can say from first-hand experience. It sucks
29:28Now you're gonna be hearing from the whole world making fun of him or calling his wife things
29:33Jordan growing up mormon too the men are the providers
29:37That's what he's always seen his whole life now. It's completely opposite. There's nothing wrong with that. It's great
29:42But I just think for a man that adds another layer of feeling not enough dude
29:48I'm just here for you, you know for now on you freaking tell me shit dog
29:54Dude, how do you how do you take your hard times? Like what do you do to cope?
29:57I say this because it has been the only thing that has ever helped me
30:01Like just praying and I mean i'm pray with your heart dude like put everything into it
30:08And if you don't believe in god like no, I do just believe in a higher power
30:12I believe I believe in jesus. Yeah, so it's like for me
30:16I I turn everything to that
30:19I'm really dreading telling friends and family about what's occurred. It really sucks
30:25And tonight is layla's birthday party. I'm dreading it
30:29Focus on doing what's best for you and your family. That's it
30:34Everything else out of your control what everybody says. Yeah, fuck them
30:38Oh
30:44Be someone to confide in
30:47Because everybody else is going crazy
30:50We're gonna go pick up mama right now, baby
31:10Hi, baby. Hi
31:13How was it?
31:13Oh, it was it was long
31:17Therapy is exhausting
31:20Oh, yeah
31:21Jen afflick take one
31:23Don't forget the afflick
31:27When I took a break from mom top from my mental health we decided to move back to arizona
31:33Zach is still got five to six months to decide on whether he wants to go back to med school
31:38We're just using that time to focus on our marriage
31:41Because when I first found out I was pregnant. I was to be honest like mortified
31:50Looking at this but I'm not
31:51I'm really scared
31:53I think everyone knows about postpartum depression
31:59But I think what's not talked about enough is prenatal depression
32:03And that's what I dealt with not being able to get out of bed
32:08Isolating yourself feeling worthless
32:11But now I feel honestly grateful for this pregnancy because
32:15This baby is what's gotten
32:18Me to where I'm at now
32:19I wouldn't trade anything that we went through this last year
32:25Because it made me realize what's actually most important like my kids
32:30And like my relationship with you
32:39And like who I want to become
32:41Zach and I have gone through a lot in the past year
32:45And yeah through time therapy and healing we're finally in a better place
32:50So how are you feeling about the girls and
32:54Are you wanting to get back involved with them feeling definitely a lot more hopeful
33:00Yeah, I just feel like sometimes you like look to these girls like for support and empowerment and like
33:05You get let down a lot
33:07I hope that this next time you guys can be there for each other
33:10Yeah, a lot of what i've gone through
33:14I think a lot of other girls have gone through too
33:16They just haven't talked about it and
33:18That's a good point
33:19I feel like we need to have more of those deep conversations so we can be there to
33:25Lift and support each other
33:26In a few weeks zach and i are going to be driving back to utah and we're going to decide if we should have the baby in utah or in arizona
33:34To be honest since leaving mom talk i definitely have a lot of fomo
33:38But i know that i'm going to have to have a lot of tough conversations with the girls
33:43Hi, can I do the number 12 uh crispy tender dinner?
33:48What's our ranch?
33:49Uh, sorry, sorry can I do ranch as well?
33:52My uh, my wife's pregnant so I think the cravings are hitting her
33:58I'm still scarred from everything that happened with demi and jesse
34:03Hopefully they can give me an apology for the way that they've treated me
34:08But i'm also very stressed because the last time I had a conversation with jesse
34:14I said something about her husband having a small wiener
34:22Yeah
34:25That's everything
34:38I know i'm such a bad friend
34:59I'm really scared to talk to macy and mikaela. I love them so much and their friendships meant everything so they don't want to lose that
35:06How are you doing i'm all right um i'm gonna give you a back story
35:13Basically jordan and i have really been struggling for years and it got really bad and in september
35:22i cheated on jordan
35:26It was with marciano
35:28I'm sorry, it's just it's been really hard but anyway jordan's known the whole time
35:37Basically, it was two kisses. That's it. I am an absolute shock. I don't think my brain is processing like what jesse just told us
35:45I've never seen jesse cry or break down. So i'm just trying to be a good friend and be here for her
35:50but there's also a part of my mind that's like
35:52I still just don't have words don't have words i've been like sick to my stomach because like you guys have been so
36:00Amazing to me. I wouldn't blame anyone if they didn't want to be my friend. No. Oh my gosh
36:07That's not a true friend. Like I don't think any less. I don't either still here to support you. Thank you
36:12Like yeah, not to say like oh i'm so happy you did this and it's amazing
36:15But it's not going to make me like think any less of you or like put any shame and guilt on you
36:20We all make mistakes. No one's place to judge. Yeah, it's okay. I don't deserve sympathy at all. No, it's okay, but we still love you
36:28Shouldn't have happened, but we did continue to text for a few weeks and that was it
36:32So anyway, I guess he decides to say also I had sex with jesse
36:37My brain is like scattered I I know and me and mercy on it ended amicably like
36:47I'm
36:47I've been trying to wrap my head around you that is so disgusting to me and slimy. Yeah. Oh, I don't like that one
36:52But he blacked out and he fell asleep on my bed
36:54And it was after we kissed one time and I was up all night sick about it
36:58So I I was coherent the whole night I didn't get any sleep and then he was like
37:01Well, there was like a cum stain in my underwear. So like I figure
37:03I'm like have you ever heard of like a horny guy having pre coming to sleep like that happens like also you're on drugs
37:10I can't control what your body's doing. What is wrong with people like no genuinely okay?
37:16No, it's fine. It's all my fault
37:17Like this is my own doing like I created this nightmare
37:20But like now I need to fix it and I know the truth. That's all that matters the people I love like that's all I need to focus on
37:26But I will not sit back and let him spin that narrative because I know what happened like yeah
37:31Macy and Mikayla are so supportive of what i'm telling them
37:35But I don't know if they fully believe me because I do know that it looks bad
37:40I'm just speechless. I don't even know what to say. Yeah. Oh my gosh. What a nightmare
37:47Right now with what i'm going through. I need mom talks support more than ever
37:50So I really need to find a way where I can prove my innocence and shut down this rumor. Love you guys
37:56I love you for having us over and confiding in us. Thank you guys again for listening to me. I'm so sorry again
38:02That is not what I expected that to be. No, I was in shock. I was shooketh
38:09I need like a cheese fry after that
38:11You have no idea
38:13How confused I am right now? I bet like I every like I think I keep replying
38:18Jessie telling us she had an affair over and over my head
38:21But before I met Jessie, I did hear rumors that she cheated in her past relationship
38:26So part of me questions whether this is the whole truth
38:29Well, I'm like I was with her the whole time in the actual villa
38:33She's really good at like acting like nothing's wrong people
38:36She did leave a lot to get like pretzels and a coke. She was like, I'm gonna get pretzels. I'm gonna go get a coke
38:41I'm gonna shit and I was like, I know you're not eating that much
38:44Jordan's always just really in your face and he is kind of a dick
38:48But I had no inkling that something was wrong with their marriage and just motivates me to make sure that my marriage is in
38:55a good place because it's the first time in my life that I think I've felt
39:00Safe with somebody and I talked to Jessie about it so many times. Well, just about like you think they had sex
39:06I just I don't know what to believe
39:10Something feels very off about this
39:13With this new scandal that is about to quite literally rock mom talk
39:17I feel like trust is more important now than ever originally trust Jessie
39:21We need to know that she's telling the whole truth. I don't think anything could have prepared us for this
39:26Oh lordy, that's why I'm playing the church. They don't like you to drink because things like these happen. We have alcohol
39:34She should love the church. I'm just kidding
39:37I'm just kidding
39:47We don't need an invitation
39:49We don't need an invitation
39:51Nope
39:51We gonna pull up on the many waves
39:54Lookin' fly
39:56So fly
39:57That's right
39:58Cause the party ain't a party without you to make
40:01Yeah
40:02That's right
40:03So tonight we are in Salt Lake for Layla's birthday dinner
40:07It's all the mom talk girls plus Miranda
40:09The dad talk guys are just across the street
40:12We're gonna meet up with them after our dinner
40:13We're here for Layla's birthday
40:17How's it going?
40:17How are you?
40:18Good
40:18Okay, thank you
40:19I appreciate it
40:21Tonight is all about celebrating Layla
40:23However, there is some mom talk business that needs to be conducted
40:27And that is the fact that Demi texted me and Michaela as soon as we got home from Jessie's
40:32And then Jessie told us that Jordan caught Brett driving by her house
40:37When Jessie was telling us about the affair with Marciano
40:40And then Demi started making offensive videos about mom talk
40:43Approved
40:45Excellent argument
40:46Approved
40:47I don't know what Demi wants out of this situation
40:50Like is she trying to hurt mom talk?
40:52Something definitely feels off here
40:54Have you guys been talking more about what was going on with Jordan and Jessie?
40:59Yeah
41:02Today it's the first time that Jordan and I are gonna go to a public event together
41:10Since we started telling people about my affair
41:17Jordan did think it was a good idea that we do this together to just show that we are a united front
41:22And it means a lot to me
41:23This beat really make me move right there
41:30Oh my gosh, look at that now
41:35I love it
41:35Look at you
41:36Everyone with the leather
41:37I know
41:38It looks so good
41:40You look so long
41:42I'm getting the steak
41:43I need my iron
41:45I need my meat
41:46Okay, I just wanted to address a little bit of the elephant in the room
41:55And it's not us
41:56Just kidding
41:56I'm like, it's not me actually
41:59So
42:00So Demi texted me and Macy and was like, oh you guys know
42:03And we were like, how did you
42:04Because we haven't talked to her
42:05Now that you know, we can talk about it
42:08Now that you guys know, dot dot dot
42:09Like, can we talk about this?
42:10And how would you know that that's what we're talking about?
42:12And how would you know the exact timing that we were gonna be there?
42:15Yeah
42:15Yeah
42:15It's just weird
42:16Oh hell
42:17Now what?
42:18Why do you care so much about what's going on if you don't want to be a part of this experience?
42:22Like, stay the fuck out of it then
42:24Demi knows what?
42:27I'm so confused
42:30Demi, she's been trying to reach me ever since I met with Marciano at the hotel
42:34So yeah, I've been kind of dodging her phone calls for the last little bit
42:40I just, it doesn't make sense to me
42:41But okay, so how did Brett know to drive by at that time?
42:45He like, was driving slow, like looking, which is creepy
42:48I'm just confused why anyone's giving Demi information right now
42:51Because Demi chose to leave MomTalk
42:54And she was a really bad friend to me last year
42:56I don't know who the mole is, but I feel like Layla and Miranda are the two best options
43:01I also don't know why she cares so much
43:03If you're constantly having your husband drive by my house
43:06That means that you left, but you're still obsessed with this experience
43:09It's definitely weird
43:11I don't understand
43:12I did not, I can show you my phone logs if you want me to
43:14Brett conveniently drove by Jesse's house
43:16I have no idea how she did that
43:17Do you want to see my phone logs?
43:18Well, you can delete things too
43:19It just doesn't make sense that he would be driving by and know that I was there too
43:23I don't know why am I in the hot seat right now for a situation that has literally nothing to do with me
43:28You're the only one talking to Demi
43:29No one else is talking to Demi
43:30I didn't tell her shit
43:31I genuinely have no idea
43:32It's my birthday dinner for crying out loud
43:34Can we just lay off of me for two seconds and let me have one goddamn good birthday?
43:38I don't know who the source is, I don't know who the mole is, but it's not me
43:41And I will die on that hill
43:43That's what year 24 is for, is not taking people's bullshit
43:47I am gonna be nervous about anyone who's friends with Demi
43:51Like she is up your guys' asses trying to get information about me, trying to talk about this
43:55She already, but she didn't get new information
43:57I'm just telling you guys, I'm gonna be very cautious and aware about what I say in front of anyone
44:01Like if I was like feeding information to people, I would have told Miranda about it
44:04So you don't know anything that's going on just right now?
44:10I know nothing
44:11She still has no idea right now what the hell we're talking about
44:15She's so lost
44:15I don't want to like pressure you into telling me anything that you don't feel comfortable telling me
44:20Marciano, he told Layla we had sex and we never had sex
44:25So I'm like, you're disgusting because I kissed you twice
44:28Oh damn, I did not see that one coming
44:31That's what happened
44:34Jessie is one of the most honest people that I've met
44:38Which is what makes this so shocking
44:40However, based on my trust issues, I have a little bit of doubt
44:47Like maybe she could be lying
44:50How are you like doing though? Are you guys doing good?
44:52Or as good as you can be?
44:53It's fine, I mean it's up and down
44:54I think the last couple days have been hard just because we're trying to navigate this now
44:57But there's going to be judgment from people who don't know all the details
45:01And then also people saying things that aren't true too that I'm having to fight
45:04Like this isn't just it coming out now
45:05I have to fight a narrative that's not true
45:07And that's I think what's been really hard
45:09So I feel like mom talk is crumbling right now
45:11Like our members are dwindling down
45:14It feels like there's a mole in the group
45:15And we also don't know for sure if Jessie is telling the whole truth
45:18And if we can't trust each other then what do we even have left?
45:22It's really hard and I'm doing okay, but like it's a lot
45:25Yeah, it's a lot and for it to come out like this sucks
45:28But me and Jordan are just going to like use it as a chance to better ourselves
45:31And like go to therapy and work through this and like hopefully come out on the other side, you know
45:39So how are you doing?
45:41Oh, I haven't slept in a couple days
45:43So to have it all unravel
45:46It's super easy to spiral
45:47Yeah, because the whole world's gonna know now
45:51I know and have that exposed for anyone to see I imagine is terrible
45:56It's emasculating as hell and it's embarrassing
45:59I don't want to be looked at less of a man because
46:02My wife did what she did
46:03And I don't want to be looked at less of a man because I decided to stay around because of it
46:07If he's choosing to stay and work on it, then that's all that matters, you know
46:11We've been working through it
46:12So like it would have sucked if at the time it got exposed publicly because we were like not sure what was going to happen
46:18So do you 100% trust Jesse's story?
46:24I have those doubts
46:29I made a mistake like I will never downplay that like I did a really bad thing
46:33But I didn't do what he's saying
46:36Let's just maybe plan anytime the girls are going to la let's just go also
46:40We'll go out there what someone's gonna do someone's gonna do
46:44Do you feel like you've 100% forgiven her?
46:47You know I had
46:49All I gotta say is in the in the line of work that our wives are in my advice to you
46:54Is if there's anything you guys need worked on in your own relationships?
46:58Let it be the biggest cautionary tale you've ever heard
47:00Like anything that where your relationship might be lacking like just work on it now
47:05But as long as the people that I know and love believe me and like know the truth and know me like then that's all that matters, you know
47:11If I find anything else out like done
47:13Okay, let's go to our next here
47:16I'm gonna go to our next
47:18All night
47:19We up all night
47:21We up to the morning
47:23All night
47:24We up all night
47:25Hello
47:25Hi
47:27How are you?
47:27Okay, it's time to get this party on track for our girl Layla
47:32I think it's clear we could all use a little bit of fun right now
47:34But not too much fun considering the group we're in
47:38How was it?
47:39I'm just sick of talking about her
47:40Hi, how are you?
47:41How are you?
47:41Good to see you
47:42So you have a business event in the area?
47:44My friend, she invited me and Jeremy to go meet her at a
47:47Another influencer event, so it's just round in the corner
47:51So you're like hopping in between the two?
47:53How are you?
47:54How are you?
47:55Good, thank you
47:57My goodness, you're so on
47:58I know
48:01Be fucking for real
48:03Oh no
48:05Oh, shit
48:07What the F is he doing here?
48:15We just can't get rid of him
48:22Bro, you're here
48:26Chase has a podcast where he likes to talk shit on everyone on MomTalk
48:30He insulted Jessie about her business
48:32You know the hair girl?
48:33It's loaded
48:34I've heard some mixed reviews about Jay-Z Styles' hair
48:37He insulted Taylor for her affair that she had
48:40The Taylor breaking ball arm, he's gonna be hating us, dude
48:44And then he said something like, I only have a social media platform because my baby daddy died
48:47Died in a car accident
48:50I ain't gonna touch this one
48:52I'm just telling you what made her rise to prominence
48:54Chase is a scumbag and no one even listens to his podcast
48:58So good luck with your 20 views you get
49:00Not only am I worried about Chase finding out about the affair and exposing that on his podcast reviews
49:18But if he hears about the lie that Marciano is saying about me
49:21He's gonna definitely try to blow that up and make it bigger than it is
49:24That's his M.O. especially with MomTalk
49:26Hello!
49:27You look so cool
49:30Thanks for coming
49:33Hi
49:34Hey, hurry up
49:36Yeah, good to see you
49:37Why is Mila like hugging him?
49:39She's like, hi
49:40She's so nice
49:41She's so nice
49:42Earlier, Chase called me to apologize for things he said in the past about MomTalk
49:48I wanted to first and foremost say that I apologize wholeheartedly for the things that I said
49:54On the podcast, I probably should have this conversation with a couple other people
49:58Yeah
49:59I invited Chase tonight because he said he wanted to come and apologize to all the other girls and their husbands
50:04And he's also dating my really good friend Kate
50:06So I felt like it was only fair to let him come tonight and give him the opportunity
50:09What's new with you?
50:10Are you still dating Mindy?
50:11No
50:12No
50:12No
50:13No
50:13We had a couple a few weeks ago
50:15How about you?
50:15I heard you
50:16I've seen someone for a little bit, yeah
50:18I feel like we broke up like two months ago
50:20Just didn't work out
50:21Just different morals didn't align
50:23He wanted someone that was more like active in the church
50:25Really?
50:26Things like that
50:26And that's not me
50:27That's not
50:28Yeah
50:29How are you doing?
50:31I don't see Mary because it's always still over there
50:34Do you want to go to the bathroom real quick?
50:35Okay, let's go
50:36We're gonna run to the restroom real quick
50:41Me and Chase
50:42We had a really good talk about just like kind of laying on the sword and like apologizing
50:47Yeah, I'm not gonna be having a conversation
50:49We had a lot of different things going so
50:51Are you guys okay?
50:52We'll talk later
50:53Is Jessie okay?
50:54Yeah
50:55She's good
50:56Okay
50:57Kate has always been like a long time family friend
51:00But I know that Chase is gonna try and get his five minutes of fame tonight
51:04And I'm just not in a place to give that to him right now
51:07How are we doing?
51:09Oh, we're doing so good, Layla
51:10I was not expecting
51:12You know, our favorite person to walk in the door today
51:14I know
51:15I did
51:15Yeah, he gave me a call
51:17He did what?
51:18He called me
51:19So, who gives a shit?
51:21I feel like if I'm good with him though
51:27No, I'm fucking pissed
51:29Because I invited someone to my birthday
51:31Yeah, but don't tell us he's not coming
51:32And then
51:32He called me before this
51:33You want to tell us the dinner
51:34Why didn't you tell us then?
51:35Why didn't you tell us that?
51:36Because it's my birthday thing
51:38You can still give us a heads up
51:39You have a friend
51:40When you're uncomfortable around a man
51:42That has harassed us online for years
51:44It is appropriate to give up
51:45Exactly
51:46I can't get over it
51:47Yeah, but we're not over it
51:48We don't want to be around that kind of person
51:50Who would've been like, hey, by the way, he is coming
51:51Like, he is
51:52Like, sorry
51:53What would that have changed?
51:54Then maybe wouldn't it come at all?
52:01Honestly, just like really
52:03Fucking pissed right now
52:04I wanted to give him the opportunity
52:05To come tonight
52:06And just kind of leave the past in the past
52:08I'm in this era right now
52:09I'm trying to stand up for myself
52:10So this upsets some of the girls
52:12Me inviting him
52:13Then that's their issue
52:14You didn't think it was that big a video
52:16It's not even about that
52:17Then what is it?
52:18I don't give a shit to explain it to you
52:20Actually
52:20Okay
52:21Because you're in here like
52:21You're not me too
52:23It pisses me off
52:24Because you don't give us this perspective telling us
52:27Is there a good time?
52:28Can we chat?
52:28Um, yeah
52:31You'll probably
52:32You'll get that update
52:33It's just not going to be tonight
52:35Sure
52:36Let's just say this
52:37If he's a leech
52:38And wanting to leech onto something
52:39If someone doesn't want a leech to be on them
52:41They have the right to just not go to an event
52:43Okay, yeah
52:43You guys have every right to leave right now
52:47I'm not staying here
52:48You guys make literally everything so negative all the time
52:52Well, great
52:52Happy birthday
52:53Okay, thanks so much
52:56All Chase does is trash talk mom talk for clout
52:59Because that's the only way he can get views
53:01And to me it's very disrespectful that Layla would allow him to come
53:05I don't know what's going on here
53:13They just started fighting
53:14It's like if we are your friends
53:15Then you would have told us
53:16So clearly we're not friends to you
53:18So you're going to choose this disgusting man
53:19Who's talked so much shit on you
53:21And all your friends
53:23I can't, I'm sorry
53:26What the hell is going on?
53:28I feel like he's said things about people in life
53:31I'm not going to discredit what he's done
53:33I'm staying until Jesse leaves, I guess
53:36After someone apologizes, I move on
53:38You're validated in that
53:39We do not need a big dramatic fight at Layla's birthday party
53:43Especially because of what just happened in my life
53:45What I'm now bringing to mom talk
53:47I just want to get in the middle of this and try to remedy it
53:49And I feel like the reaction is so over the top and unnecessary
53:54And I feel like that's what's like
53:54That's their feeling
53:55And so they just appreciate it
53:57Then communicate that
53:58Then rather than like blowing up and like cussing
54:00I'm just so tired of this shit
54:01Being at this party feels overwhelming
54:05Jesse and I are in a place of crisis
54:07And for Jesse to be getting involved in the drama
54:11Feels like I don't have any value
54:13I shouldn't have to give, give, give, give, give
54:15And they don't want to bring that in
54:17That's fine, that has nothing to do with me
54:18There's just no reason to do it
54:20I'm just sick of painting a smile on my eyes
54:22This doesn't sit well with me and I can't be here right now
54:25But we should don't leave him
54:29He's not leaving Jesse here
54:31He just left
54:34Dude, I just, I just can't be in here anymore
54:39I met Van Ryder
54:43Jesse's yelling at Layla
54:46And then Jesse's talking shit about Chase
54:50And it's just like dude, like if you want to come pick me up
54:52I just can't be around this anymore
54:57Right now I feel frankly emotionally abandoned by my wife
55:02Makes you really think about who you made your choice
55:05In deciding to marry
55:08And it is something that I do need to take some time
55:11To figure out for myself
55:12And I don't know what's going to happen
55:15Welcome to the high news
55:19Welcome to the showdown
55:22Crazy kid love
55:24Never give you
55:26I dropped you
55:30Oh my gosh, is that awful
55:33Jordan left by the way
55:34What do you mean?
55:35He went home
55:36Like went home, are you sure?
55:37And today I saw him going in the elevator
55:39Oh my god
55:46Hello guys
55:47Buckle in bitches
55:49Hey, let's go
55:50Are we going to die?
55:51We don't know yet
55:51Woo!
55:52Love Talk Survives!
55:55Any of you guys done anal?
55:56Either you swing or you have anal sex
55:58She has a good ass
55:59I've been wanting to talk to you guys
56:01Do we have to do that here?
56:02Oh!
56:02Love Talk Survives!
56:04Love Talk Survives!
56:06It's like a common theme in our friendship
56:08It's toxic men
56:10No
56:10Oh
56:11No
56:11You have to act and be a certain way for people to love and accept you and for God to accept you
56:17You know I support you either way
56:19Yeah
56:20There's a lot of things I don't resonate with anymore when it comes to the church
56:23I just wanted to fit in really badly
56:25In Utah I get called whitewashed a lot
56:27The fact that you even were going to try and keep this a secret
56:30You're my mom stop sticking up for him please
56:33We're fighting for our marriages and the girls are just putting us through hell
56:37He's feeling rejected
56:39It's getting harder
56:40If the roles were reversed you guys wouldn't be okay with it
56:43No one said leave Jordan
56:44I wish we got that
56:48Why did you lie to Layla about us?
56:49I was being influenced
56:51Influenced by who?
56:56Everyone's just a little concerned that you're still posted to me
57:00We have a leak in mom talk
57:02I don't like to give anyone blind loyalty
57:05Would you be open to the lie detector test?
57:07You ready?
57:08Moment of truth
57:08He's literally sitting right here
57:11Oh my god
57:12Fuck
57:15Why are you here?
57:16We're not going to have people coming and going
57:17Why are you here today?
57:18I'm going to start my own mom talk
57:21I'm sorry I'm sorry
57:22Sorry
57:23We need to come together
57:24They can be the crazy ones
57:25You know nothing
57:26You know nothing
57:28She turned the whole group against me
57:30That proves exactly who you are
57:32That will make your life a miserable fucking hell
57:34Look at the bottom of this
57:36All right
57:37How do you want to start this?
57:39Mom talk is sisterhood
57:41We're going to get through anything
57:48out omack
57:55Yeah
57:56What if
57:57Luke?
57:58You know nothing
57:59That is
58:01I am
58:02disappointed
58:02They have to go
58:04And you know what
58:05I am
58:05Wait
58:06Wait
58:08I am
58:10Wait
58:11I am
58:12I am
58:13I am
58:14I am
58:16One
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