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00:00Oh
00:15mom talk has a lot going on the next few weeks and we're really excited next week we have a brand
00:19deal at stagecoach this week we are in LA for some press and also a big hulu event and also
00:25some of the girls are trying out for dancing with the stars oh i'm excited jesse is meeting us here
00:30in LA she was at disneyland with jordan and the kids however whitney and me are here
00:37i think we're all sitting at the same hotel so i feel like tensions are high
00:41and i'm honestly not looking forward to bumping into them hi how are you good how are you doing
00:46i'm a reservation for macy hi hello good how are you what's your last name matthews matthews
00:53athletic did you ask whitney if she was staying here yeah i did let me see oh you guys are still
00:58in contact yeah we're besties don't you know help nothing shocks me anymore true um actually she
01:07yeah she just texted me her room number wait what number is she can you imagine you guys are next
01:12car neighbors stop i said that so loud good this trip will be very interesting because obviously the
01:18last couple times we've seen demi and whitney it hasn't been the best and this is the first time
01:24as a whole that we're all gonna be together i did feel bad for being harsh on whitney when she was with
01:30us why are you here we're not gonna have people coming and going why are you here today what do you
01:34want dancing with the stars as the leader i feel like i should do better we do want to keep it
01:40professional but i know not everyone feels that i'm sure whitney's in her hotel room right now five
01:45six seven eight and one i'm just hoping that whitney doesn't drive like a bigger wedge and mom talk
01:52let's go see who got the best room
02:13try me in your seat i'll bring you to your knees baby you're gonna believe
02:22try me in your seat i'll bring you to the next one
02:26you
02:52i got what i want when i want how i want with these fly looks that i've gone who's gonna say
02:57no to me no to me no to me this looks like a little robe i know it's so cute that's probably
03:05what it's meant to be actually that is so cute they're known for like their presentation here
03:10we are doing a little dinner tonight before press starts and everything gets chaotic and it honestly
03:16feels like the calm before the storm since we know we're gonna be re
03:19i was gonna say re-conjoined rejoined you're gonna be rejoined with whitney and demi again
03:26and i just feel like it's gonna be chaotic oh wow what is this caesar salad caesar himself
03:32oh guys i'm not gonna lie i'm like really excited about tomorrow and obviously like we don't know
03:40he's gonna get the spot oh i'm dancing with the stars just the fact that it's even an opportunity
03:45is crazy growing up like i wasn't able to communicate with my mom very well and so
03:49the way that we connected was through dancing i just put an entire popcorn machine in front of you
03:55so um back to what i'm saying i'm like so yeah so about your mom so about my mom
04:03i'm just kidding oh what wait who is that marciano what what does it say he said uninvited to the
04:15function because a 30 year old mormon wife scared to tell her husband the truth
04:19so marciano's supposed to be in town going to this hulu event that mom talk is also going to
04:33but according to his post he got uninvited to it i feel like demi's behind it because he is giving a
04:39little bit guilty and i feel like if marciano's not there at the hulu event she can kind of plant
04:45her story before marciano can oh my gosh this is gonna get so messy
05:01hello you look beautiful thank you you too wait i love that dress how are you good how are you i
05:08just like grabbed your clothes i'm like hey i missed you i know i'm a perv how was disney it was
05:14good good um sorry no you're totally good did you see marciano's post you posted i died there's a lot
05:22going on i got in a little late because jordan and i actually took all of our kids to disneyland
05:28i know it's confusing that we did this as we're separated but we both decided that during this
05:33separation we want to be committed to our kids and make them feel like everything's somewhat
05:38normal and it was good but i am coming into basically a nuclear bomb that's gone off marciano
05:45and demi have had so much drama online we're going to be seeing demi and whitney today and we've only
05:50just had drama with them recently and this is the first time that mom talk as a whole is going to be
05:54together and i'm just anticipating it to be dramatic i commented on it i was like oh i saw your yeah i
06:00wanted to comment but i was like i just i'm gonna look like a hypocrite on it did you see the fan page
06:05like reposted it and her comments on it are disgusting what is she saying the fan account
06:09posted it and then to be a comment and she goes grown men acting like a child because they couldn't
06:13bag a married woman that was beyond out of their league and married with a vomit emoji the clout
06:18chasing is on another level and then she commented another time she goes also he got uninvited because
06:22he's a sexual predator that can't keep his hands to himself not because i'm hiding anything from my
06:29husband he's a gliding clout chaser at marciano rob hope your 15 minutes of fame is worth it you're
06:33pathetic is she for real i can't people see how flirty she was we all witnessed it with our own eyes
06:40that is not him being a predator that is him acting on what you told me exactly last summer me demi
06:46mikayla layla and jen met marciano and immediately he was really flirty with demi the day after we left
06:53demi came into our hotel room crying and basically said that she confessed to brett that she feels back
06:59sad because she's not a victim and that she played into it too much when demi initially told us
07:03about this we were like oh my gosh who do we need to call what do we need to do for you how can we
07:07help you and then the narrative switched a little bit after and then she was saying she wasn't the
07:12victim and she was flirting with him the whole entire time and admitted to that like i told you that
07:16i was for flirty and like having fun and i was there to connect with everyone there we stayed up late
07:21and played truth or dare like i let marciano kiss me on the cheek in truth or dare
07:24oh it makes me sick to my stomach i just cannot
07:36this is the dress oh my gosh i love it it has like yeah you won't need body makeup with that yeah i
07:43won't need body makeup it's more just like arms just arms yeah that's so smart to do body makeup first
07:47so it matches the face yeah yeah i didn't even think about that how are you hello
07:55shit
08:04okay we ready yeah just relax your first appearance appearance first up to me why did you decide to
08:12leave mom talk and stop filming and not come back for season three oh there was a lot that went into
08:18me deciding to leave mom talk i think ultimately it came down to just feeling like i wasn't being valued
08:27but i'm officially back filming here in la for the hulu get real event and i'm feeling very conflicted
08:37about it very nervous but i do feel like it's the right move for me i am back to set the record
08:42straight i'm back to tell the truth and i don't feel like i've had a fair chance at sharing my story
08:50hi hi how are you me and demi now have glam next to each other like within two feet of each other and
08:57to be honest it feels incredibly awkward because i know everything that's going on behind the scenes
09:01with her and marciano but not just that but like her and jesse and again me and demi have never had
09:06like a falling out but based on the actions i've seen and the characteristics i've seen i honestly
09:11just want to get my glam done and go do my press hello okay sorry i'm getting really well right now
09:19but anyways hi oh no do you love hold on a second hi hi hello your glam looks her amazing we're here
09:32in la this is the first time all of us have been together in a while i'm clearly not welcome in mom
09:38talk but i can't even think about that right now today is a really huge day it is my interview with
09:43dancing with the stars dina katz i have so many thoughts going on in my mind i am just like
09:49so nervous but i'm just like you know what just be yourself and then whatever happens happens how
09:56are you feeling i feel great how are you feeling good just i i i don't want to continue um patterns
10:03of engaging in things that aren't any of my business but i did see that are you talking about
10:10what you said yesterday oh oh no i'm i i feel like that was like a blatant shot fired and you're
10:19accusing me of having an affair yes so i'm going to say something yeah i'm not gonna have someone
10:24come out there's one 30 year old in the group you're saying you had an affair with me you're not
10:29going to get away with that yeah you're blatantly lying about me yeah when you and jesse had the
10:35affair you and jesse formed an alliance to try to spin things and make it look better for you
10:39and try to throw me under the bus for something i did not do how did you expect it to go so you think
10:45him and jesse came together i see it clear as day i i would bet my life on it that that's what's
10:50happening this is actually my worst nightmare being in this glam chair next to demi and whitney
10:55talking on my friend i really just don't know how long i can stay silent
11:01anyway i think the most frustrating thing for me about all of this is the alliance that's been formed
11:08around jesse's word it sucks because i even still give layla grace i even still give macy and mikaela
11:16grace because they don't know they haven't been through it they don't understand what that feels
11:21like
11:21my name's in her mouth so of course
11:27not in a bad way away from you no not in a bad way i'm saying no i'm what i'm saying is that i give
11:32the people grace who haven't gone through that because they don't understand and that's just life
11:37like how can you understand if you haven't completely gone through that wait gone through
11:41what just being on the complete out and being ostracized and being talked about in every tick
11:45tock and being told that you're a liar i saw comments from the other women in favor of marciano
11:51and against me basically calling me a liar asking why was i continuing conversation with him afterwards
11:58if this happened just the classic case of victim blaming and there is no excuse to going online and
12:06calling a woman who's been a victim in any way shape or form a liar unless you have proof and evidence
12:14that that did not happen i don't know if that's you specifically or if it's mikaela specifically i
12:19really hope not given what happened to both you and mikaela i would hope that you would be like hey
12:25if something happened i'm going to believe you because that's why people don't come forward and
12:29talk about it because they're afraid of oh how's it going to look that i handled it in this way but
12:34as you know there's no right way to handle being mistreated in that way
12:41to me brings up my past history with abuse and it feels a little inappropriate to me because our
12:47situations are so vastly different i was in an abusive relationship i was abused choked hit pushed all
12:55these things i was raped and this situation is so different than what she went through so to me it
13:00almost feels insensitive that she's trying to compare the two or use me as a scapegoat for what
13:05she's going through this is just this whole thing is just a mess and a tricky situation and we're hearing
13:13so much information everything is all over the place we did we did a lie detector test
13:19and both of their answers came back like obviously um i want to say positive correct that she never
13:30slept with him and they just kissed it's like i obviously i'm going to believe jesse because she
13:35said that never happened i feel like i'm in a tricky position because i want to stay true to mom
13:40talk of supporting other women but with demi in this situation it's confusing because i can't feel
13:44like i can support her because of the way she's treated jesse and the way she's treated other women in
13:48our group i feel like if mom talk ever has a chance of being repaired that jesse and dimit just need
13:52to get in a room and sit down and address all these rumors face-to-face
14:02oh my gosh let me get out it's so good last time i saw you you weren't like that
14:06oh my gosh let me get out it's so good last time i saw you you weren't like that
14:30oh my gosh i am so excited for this interview i'm so excited to talk with dina i'm just gonna tell
14:42my story try to be myself and yeah hope for the best have you danced no so i've never taken any
14:51dancing lessons um i'm just hispanic like i just grew up dancing right and yeah i always like tease
14:58everyone i'm like i'm the worst dancer in the group do you dance oh girl yes i did dance on a
15:03professional team it was a contemporary team because i graduated in fine arts and with an
15:07emphasis in dance where at byu it was my life and i i loved it what was your favorite dance oh hip-hop
15:13for sure i'll shake that booty i was a competitive dancer from 6 to 16. oh wow point ballet jazz lyrical
15:20contemporary hip-hop aren't you all dancers maybe like tick-tock dancing like i can do little moves like
15:25that were you a dancer too i was not i was sports really what'd you play basketball i did soccer as
15:31well really yeah do you watch our show i love it yes i've watched it since i was a little girl with
15:36my mom i'm gonna win the mayor ball oh my gosh i'm trying to get you a hoisted i'm like i have it on
15:41my vision board oh do you yeah oh my god a picture of me i photoshop thank you so much i think the
15:47interview with dina cats went really well i will say we're supposed to hear back in a week or so
15:52this will be interesting to see thank you again okay we'll text you bye baby bye as much as i want
15:59this opportunity if i don't get it i hope it at least goes to someone who's here for the right
16:05reasons and who isn't here for just fame and fortune so our little show goes live in september
16:13and i don't know like what your life is it was feels like you move a lot but like
16:16yeah i bill for it i don't tell me where i need when and where i need to be and i'll be there move
16:21out it would be better if you were to do the show i'd give myself an 11 out of 10.
16:28it couldn't have gone better honestly at the end of the show you get to go to new york for
16:32a big cast announcement so there you mean when when i can't wait i can't wait okay i'll see you
16:39soon i'll hope i don't flash the camera my skirt's a little short
16:52look at this spread
16:59for such ladies we're getting ready to leave for the hulu get real event and i'm really nervous to
17:06see demi at this event because our last run-in was at hydro jug and it was very hostile
17:19this is a work event we work for hulu there are going to be other shows and other people there
17:24and the last thing i want is for people to be like okay do not invite these reality people to
17:29anything because i'll ruin it hello how are you good to see you good to see you all right we need
17:34to chat at some point but who are you too you do too
17:38oh my god oh my god oh my god congratulations where's everyone else um demi is upstairs hiding
17:47from us in glam because she's scared yeah did i see what's going down yeah no it's really weird
17:54right now so wait you guys are not feeling her oh i oh i never felt her i think all of our cats i was
18:00i've never felt her that's a big accusation it is no it's not okay like we saw how flirty she was
18:06too like oh i'm sorry but hannah is marciano's ex-girlfriend she and marciano dated i believe for
18:14like three years on and off and it was pretty up and down and pretty dramatic literally and she was
18:19the one that's like let me fix you let's go talk yeah i know he's a lot of things he's a lot of
18:32yeah no same he's not a sexual he's not he's not right yep i'm not a huge fan of marciano but things
18:39did happen between demi and marciano whether she wants to admit it or not i mean she was literally
18:45right next to him like grabbing his hands like googly eyes like talking laughing like it for sure
18:53did not seem like a married woman was talking to another single man with boundaries we all know
19:00that demi is very calculated she knows she's been caught they allegedly kissed like off camera what
19:06better way to kind of squash this conversation than to call yourself a victim that's what i'm saying
19:15he told her he was like madly in love with her and i just feel like that night that she left he
19:19goes she's just like it's what i'm looking for like she told me she wants to divorce her husband i'm
19:24like okay oh my god we're gonna be together after this yeah and it sucks that today we have to see her
19:30because like this is all all this drama is now happening yeah are you guys ready yes
19:36how are you guys oh is there a stripper pulling this one hopefully who's excited
19:49she is nasty little bit the group is definitely separated demi and whitney are off on their own and
19:55the rest of mom talk are together i think it's a dysfunctional mom talk right now and i'm just
20:01glad i'm not in the car with demi and whitney i just got glam done and demi was with me so that was
20:07fun in the tiny hotel room the tiny little space we're this far apart getting our makeup done i was
20:12like this is great and then they were like started talking about like all this like going on like she
20:17still thinks she's up and marcy on i went back and forth with her on that i was like oh yeah and i was like
20:22she did a lie detector check they both did it they both were clean basically long story short
20:27demi would say stuff and be like you know and like the other two in the group who have been
20:30assaulted referring to me and you oh oh and she's like you know it's just hard when like they're not
20:35supporting you and then oh like i can't i looked over and gave like side eye and then she's like and
20:40like you know people who are victims almost like guilting me yeah she knows what she's doing because
20:45she knows that's a sucky thing to question yeah yeah and you're not going to be like and i'm not going to
20:50question like a woman like i've been in that position so it's like hard for me but she knows
20:54that's your soft spot it's hard to say yes demi's lying because i obviously never want to say that
21:01someone's lying if they are a victim of something but i think it's offensive for demi to take my
21:07situation to almost put more validity in her situation obviously i was a child when this was
21:15happening to me and i just i don't think it's fair to compare our two situations at all
21:28you guys we're here can i bring my drink with me i love that i'm literally pregnant and i'm still
21:34scared when i'm wearing white stuff that i'm gonna start my period or something i'm so excited to see
21:51all the golden bachelor bachelorettes i'm like i'm in heaven the get real event is a huge event that
21:57hulu puts on with abc to basically celebrate the cast of unscripted shows and i'm so excited to be here
22:03it's like i feel like this is going to be such a fun night and we're going to be able to connect
22:07with other people that are kind of in this same space that we're in i feel like mom talk is very
22:11divided right now but hopefully we can act like the grown-ass women that we are and get past it for one
22:16night oh look at taylor and them okay we want to meet you okay well we have to go we have to go
22:28i'm not going to stay here what do you mean are you coming on our show have you guys seen it i have
22:34i saw it last night yeah you thought you could use some jesus in your life yeah and you actually like
22:40it yeah good yeah that's funny you gotta get him in dad talk yeah we have a spot in our show his
22:49name's dakota so um yes yeah that's the one appreciate it by the way i graduated from being
22:57an asshole when i turned like 30. a very likable though we will see that oh you're pregnant
23:04thank you oh my god everybody there's so many babies i know it's some women in us
23:12chloe and scott the fact that they were fans of our show was a cool thing to be like whoa
23:18like some of the most famous people in the world are watching our show it's crazy
23:20i mean i don't even know what to think right now um i can't even remember what i said or did i know i was
23:26like bowing down at one point i i can't even believe we're here that was iconic yeah look at
23:33them they're getting into it yeah like hannah's there like that's so awkward why is whitney there
23:37like she even knows anything i look over and i see demi and whitney talking with hannah and it feels
23:42like they're talking about me with the gestures demi is making and how passionate she's talking so that's
23:47from me to you to jesse like a trying it says that like you guys have like this connection and like
23:54you guys loved each other yeah no he told me all these things towards me i never once reciprocated
24:03even when he was like it was love at first sight like i was obsessed with you like i didn't know
24:08what to do i was just like oh man like sorry that's wild never was i like i know i'm kind of fighting
24:15feelings or yeah i was really fighting an attraction i was not fighting one single thing like yeah i was
24:21genuinely trying to just be nice do my job and then afterwards i was like i gotta keep this guy at
24:26bay i had no clue about jesse i had no clue that that was even going on are you allowed for my kids
24:34other people no i mean depending on your if you're a swinger or you have an open relationship but no are
24:41you kidding me brett would be so pissed if we even kissed on the mouth like even just
24:46five he'd be livid and i would never do that to him so that's why it's a big deal to me because
24:52i'm like don't even she just went like this i know it's like i was like oh well i thought she
24:57went like this she's trying to show what actually happened i thought she was like this or was she
25:01ear humping again the energy is definitely awkward it looks like she's acting out like a kiss so i can
25:07tell that either she's trying to spin the narrative to them before it gets out or just trying to get her
25:14truth out there i don't know it makes me upset because we're at this professional event i hope
25:19you're not slandering my name and now it's clear to me that this is not the time or the place but i
25:24do need to have a conversation with demi like i do want to say like let's retract the sexual
25:29characteristics from barziani no no no absolutely not
25:34i just wanted to say bye bye bye thanks we should probably have a conversation at some point
25:44probably tomorrow let's do it the animosity that i'm getting from all of the women is just so
25:50extremely disappointing and i can't help but feel like man not long ago we were sharing our deepest
25:59feelings and being vulnerable with each other and now i feel like we're complete strangers
26:04i think that there is no other option at this point than to sit down and share my side of things
26:09but when it comes to mom talk i'm not ready to come back i don't know if i have any friends here
26:16that's how i'm feeling honestly we're here to celebrate mom talk we've accomplished this together
26:37empowerment all of the positive things but the coldness that i'm feeling from all of these women
26:42is exactly why i've given up on this i'm the only one in the group that's been supportive of demi or
26:48has even wanted to hear demi out friends should be the ones who give each other the most grace
26:56but that's not what's happening it's just there's a divide there's a huge divide right now
27:12i'm dying i know i mean i don't know because you're pregnant so it's worse but i know terrible
27:24i'll be fine though today was definitely amazing in fact it was so great i think i spent the whole
27:30day running on adrenaline you have the drinks menu you have some nice mocktails it definitely seems like
27:36there's two groups there's demean whitney and then there's us and even though it sucks i'm just
27:44grateful that we were able to get through the day and that it could still be
27:47a great experience how did you guys feel about today in general i think it went better than i
27:53was thinking it was gonna go she said hi to me and so did whitney but i don't know it just feels
27:59disingenuine now because now that the friendships are gone it just feels
28:03i don't know i'm not used to having friendships that are business related so it's just weird
28:07right i don't know if i can do this whole week stagecoach it'll be fun stagecoach is a country
28:15music festival in the middle of the desert i'm so excited i am just looking forward to being with
28:22my friends hanging out and honestly just having fun experiences with my girlfriends so the brand the
28:29one we have to post for them they want stuff from whitney and so they're expecting her to be at the
28:35house what no they're not just a stagecoach but i think we did i didn't think she was going we had
28:42this house we're going to stay at for stagecoach and it's being hosted by a brand brands don't care
28:47if mom talk is getting along or not when you make a deal with a brand you're obligated to hold up your
28:54end of that deal how do you guys feel at the end of the day i can ignore her i'm not whitney's biggest
28:59fan but like she hasn't done me like very very dirty so i'm just like whatever she's done me so
29:04dirty it's just not worth my energy like you know i could be around freaking anyone and make it work
29:09i'm one of the only women in the group that still has somewhat of a friendship with whitney i would
29:17say we're on fairly good terms i also think i can relate to her in some ways i know what it's like
29:24to feel on the outs with mom talk i just don't know how to navigate this moving forward like she's
29:30gonna be at things how are we handling this like we need to make sure everyone's comfortable yeah
29:33i'm planning on talking to whitney whitney puts up this front and this tough exterior i think on the
29:42inside she truly does care a lot and she does want to be here sorry i think just sometimes friend
29:50breakups can like genuinely be harder than like boyfriend breakups and spousal breakups
29:58so i want to make it a safe space for her to do that and maybe to let that guard down a little bit
30:03oh too pregnant for this
30:19so we've decided we're gonna leave it up right yeah because i know everyone's gonna have their hair
30:23down and curled hello what's up bitch oh gosh
30:28she says well i know that's probably what you say behind me too no it's not i was coming to ask you
30:36are you going to stage coach i wasn't planning on it is demi going are you guys like i know you guys
30:42are no disney is not going okay she's for sure not going i just like feel so weird after our last
30:48meeting with everyone like i think it'd be so weird if i went well i will say that i
30:52do feel pretty like i felt really bad after the meeting i'm not going to lie because i don't want
30:59to say that we were attacking you but i'm sure it felt that way that you were like attacked by
31:02all of us at once regardless if we're valid in our reasons and vice versa it doesn't take away the
31:07feelings you have from it right so i appreciate that i do want to say that i am sorry that we came all at
31:14once i don't want to speak for them but i think their thing was that they just wanted to hear what is
31:19your intention i think that's what they all wanted to know i was very clear with everyone yeah the
31:23only reason i came back to film was because i was given the opportunity to audition for dancing with
31:28the stars i i felt like i said all of that with everyone was there something that i missed no you
31:33did admit that which is again good i mean that's i think what we wanted was at least tell us why
31:39i did make that effort and nothing came of it maybe everybody's just having a business mindset then
31:45this is just a business okay we're co-workers at this point i mean sure i would love a world where
31:53we were back to where things used to be but i mean a girl can dream but that's just not how it is right
31:59now but again if this is like it's still a business and whatnot and you're doing it correct so if you're
32:05in this business we're going to be at so many things together and it's like do we want this
32:09awkwardness or do we want to just like we can work as co-workers at least right like because at the end
32:15of the day i think this is all it is going to be right at this point yeah even though whitney does
32:21say she's here for work and only work i do know that there's this softer side of her that she
32:28is protecting but the friendships really do matter to whitney and so i just want to open
32:33it up to all of us to her to mom talk and so we can come together okay good luck thank you is this
32:41yours i was just playing diddling with it someone's no i was not going to shake your hand
32:46oh what were you doing i was going to pull you in to give you a hug not to shake your hand
33:03oh it's so cute it is so pretty the purple the lavender i'm like does it match my eyes should
33:14i wear the purple dress yeah the view is insane jesse's gonna get here do you think the conversation's
33:22over between jesse i mean i hope so because she's i was hoping she'd be here by now i just feel like
33:28it would go so long jesse's meeting with demi right now to set the record straight about marciana
33:33there's so many like little details to hash out many there's a lot to unpack do you think there's
33:38any world where like again if demi pulls a whitney of like i'm ready to come back in the group and do
33:44this do you think there's any world where jesse is like oh no no no but i think it depends on
33:50the context of the reality of the situation that's happening like they can agree and be like okay
33:57like i see your side and like these are the facts and like i'm sorry i did this i think if it's like
34:01that then sure but if it's not then i don't listen i already know all of us will have our guard up and
34:07be like i don't trust her
34:29i asked demi to meet up today because i'm really sick of her spreading the rumor that i slept with
34:33marciano and i need her to know from me that it's not true it just feels really unfair that demi is
34:38continuing to spread this rumor because she doesn't know the details of what's going on now
34:42she's just continuing to perpetuate this narrative without actually knowing the facts i'm hoping that
34:47since we were so close at one point we can sit down face to face and she'll know that i'm telling
34:51the truth hello
35:04all right how do you want to start this i know i thought of a million different ways um
35:11i'm not gonna lie i'm really nervous she knows how to bulldoze you in conversation she has a way of
35:17making people believe her she's manipulative she's strong-armed and she's passionate so
35:21it's gonna be very interesting to see how she tries to spin things because i know she's gonna
35:26try to discredit my story best way to start okay there is one thing i do want to clear up the only
35:32reason i ever brought up you having sex with marciano was because he told me multiple times that
35:38that's what happened it didn't happen like genuinely we both took a lie detector and we both said we
35:43didn't have sex and it came up true like it did not happen and at this point i have laid this all
35:48out on the line i'm owning my i'm telling my whole story if i knew that we had sex and it was
35:52going to come out i would just say it now because i'm already blowing up my life i'm just confused
35:56because the energy that i'm picking up on and the body language is telling me a completely different
36:02story for some reason i'm just not believing it jesse just come out with it like you'll feel so much
36:08better just come out and tell me what happened so i genuinely did not have sex with him and it
36:13makes me sad that he said that but he did tell us you guys kissed so i'm hearing that yeah false so
36:19did he kiss you on the cheek goodbye that day nope he kissed me on truth or dare that's it that's it
36:25it was just very confusing so it's like okay if you guys did kiss then that is an assault because
36:29you kissed him the next day you know but well that still could be assault even if i did kiss him the
36:33next day which i didn't there was not a kiss in the mouth there was two ass grabs i genuinely feel
36:41there was like some flirtiness and even if you didn't do anything wrong like i feel like maybe
36:45he got the wrong idea and then you continue to talk to him for months if he actually assaulted you why
36:49did you continue to talk to him and why did you send him pictures of and why was talking to him
36:54going into this meeting with demi i wanted to have my facts straight we have heard so much from
36:59marciano about his side of things with her but i needed some tangible proof so i did ask him to
37:04send a few screenshots of text messages they had that maybe alluded to more happening some of those
37:10messages were a little bit inappropriate kind of flirty inviting him to utah saying suggestive things
37:16so all of this put together shows that there's like a repeated pattern of being overly friendly and
37:22really flirty with him whenever they talk there was one conversation where was a part of it and i was on
37:27the phone and she pressed facetime well we saw a picture of her sleeping that you sent him on his
37:32phone not sleeping yeah like you sent him a picture of her and then there was a photo or a video of her
37:39praying i'm just saying if he assaulted you why are you sending photos of your daughter to him like that
37:46there was multiple things that looking back i was like why am i still talking to this guy like yeah
37:51even to brett that's the thing that is the variable that matters in this moment is that there was not
37:56one text not one phone call not one facetime that brett wasn't aware i'm not even worried about that
38:01it's the text that seems kind of flirty like your name in my phone is now going to be marciano baby
38:06because that's what calls you and there were like story replies where you're like oysters taste like
38:10cum and there was like little water and like like i have the text i can show you oysters taste like cum he
38:16had a story of oysters and you responded and you were like ew and then he was like oh come on you're like
38:21that's the same thing as swallowing cum and then you sent all these emojis for me the behavior does
38:25not add up why did you continue there's no right way to handle those situations in my mind it literally
38:31was a case of keep your friends close side of me closer where i was like why because if you didn't
38:35do anything wrong what were you afraid of him doing what he's doing what spinning things to make him to
38:40try to get clout to try to make things look a certain way i think the thing that was so frustrating
38:45for me was that i confided in you in what happened with marciano and then you had a physical and
38:52an emotional affair with the guy yeah but i was like my best friend i get that but from my perspective
38:57like you were so friendly with him so i genuinely didn't feel like you felt that way about him i'm
39:02only hearing now that he's her alleged abuser now that it's coming out publicly but she's told me and
39:07the girl so many times that she's not a victim i did not go out and intentionally find someone who
39:12abused me and decided to kiss him and that's how she's trying to make it seem right now i mean you
39:17weren't forced to text him and call him and have facetimes and like you weren't forced to do that
39:21but that's that's victim shaming there's not one way to handle this situation everyone is going to
39:28handle these types of situations differently you never deserve unwanted touch no matter what it looks
39:34like no matter what your relationship was before or after unwanted touch is on unwanted touch no i
39:41understand your perspective i'm not trying to victim shame you like if he grabbed you without
39:45you asking that's obviously inappropriate and not something that's okay yeah
39:52at this point i feel like i'm backed into a corner because demy's saying there's no perfect
39:56way to handle assault and that is completely valid and so true so i just feel like i can't fight that
40:01right now and even though we may never know the truth i just need to let this go ultimately i'm just
40:06glad we had this conversation and i honestly never want to talk about this or marciano ever again
40:11i'm so over it yeah okay well thank you yeah thank you hopefully we can just let it be i know
40:30yeah baby we're heading to stagecoach country music festival look she's here already
40:37taylor and dakota are like all over each other gross seeing taylor and dakota is giving me the
40:44massive egg she posted stories yeah go look see the people that were made aware of these events and
40:49watched me cry wait not once have i seen her shed a tear oh my god my dress can we just go to bed
40:55all this sexual trauma is having a huge effect on our marriage there are times when i'm just feeling
40:59done with it it i just feel like it's getting harder
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