American Monster - Season 13 Episode 04- Mom is Always Right
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00:01She was very energetic.
00:04She would always have a smile, and she just loved life.
00:09There was just something so special and beautiful about her.
00:14Baby, I'm listening to what you're saying.
00:15I know.
00:16I hear you.
00:17David could be extremely charming.
00:21He was going to be in a wheelchair for the rest of his life.
00:25She would literally just carry him throughout the house.
00:29I feel like he expected her to do certain things, but he didn't have the respect.
00:37She didn't want to feel like she was in prison anymore.
00:41This case is a true reminder that appearances can be deceiving.
00:45Dance department!
00:47He's very good at not showing that dark side.
00:59Dance department!
01:00January 2016.
01:01Tea and David Swims are supporting their beloved Ole Miss University at a marching band competition
01:21in Atlanta, Georgia.
01:22Georgia. She is extremely bubbly, energetic. She just makes you want to just have fun.
01:30It looks like she's just enjoying herself and singing, something she loved to do,
01:37and dancing, something she couldn't do.
01:42The same shimmy dance she did with her shoulders.
01:45Oh, there's David. He's trying to look mean and tough, and now she finally got David into it.
01:56T knew David almost our whole life, really.
02:00He could be extremely charming. They look like a very, very happy couple.
02:09She loved him. I could tell.
02:15Antietta Archie, lovingly known as T, is born on November 18, 1985, to Anatoly and Alyssa Archie in Carroll County, Mississippi.
02:27T was very energetic.
02:31She was smart.
02:35She would always have a smile, and she just loved life.
02:41When she was young, T was very helpful with her baby sister, Shalonda.
02:52They were six years apart, and T felt that she was more of big sister slash mom.
03:01T was, she was the glue. She was the natural nurturer for the entire family.
03:07T's fierce loyalty is strengthened by a traumatic family split.
03:13My divorce was hard on them, but I would always make sure they had what they needed.
03:21As a teacher, Miss Archie instills the importance of education in her daughters.
03:26T was a phenomenal student.
03:29She was very determined to have straight A's.
03:33T ended up graduating high school and going to the University of Mississippi, well, Ole Miss.
03:40T thrives in the college town of Oxford, and her time there is filled with happiness.
03:46T graduated from the University of Mississippi in 2008.
03:49And she told me, she said, Mama, I'm going to catch the first train coming.
03:56So she took the first job that she was offered, and it was in Yazoo City as a teacher, third grade.
04:06I was very proud.
04:08Not long after moving to Yazoo City, 22-year-old T reconnects with an old acquaintance, 27-year-old David Swims.
04:20I taught David in sixth grade math.
04:25He was a good student, but he was a student that thought he knew it all, but he didn't.
04:33David had quite a reputation within our hometown.
04:39He was labeled as a bad boy.
04:42He and David start dating.
04:44She learns he has two children with two different partners and is in the midst of a divorce.
04:50As an adult, I heard David was a jealous person.
04:56I know that he and his first wife have major issues.
05:03Hearing things around town about what he was doing made me very uncomfortable.
05:11On the day that he brought David to my house, she came in and he was behind her.
05:18She said, Mama, David and I are dating now.
05:20I said, oh, really?
05:22He walked in with pride, you know, like chest out.
05:27He knew what a gym he was getting.
05:29David was offering her a lifestyle that she was not used to.
05:38The streets, the clubs, the partying.
05:42This was all new to her.
05:45This was like a lifestyle that Mama tried to keep me away from.
05:50This is not a relationship that I want her to be in.
05:55But she was an adult now.
05:58I think the bad side is what she was attracted to the most.
06:02And in her mind, she would be able to love this person and allow them to find the good side within themselves.
06:09David claims he wants to marry Tee.
06:16But in March 2009, one year into the relationship, his life takes an unexpected turn.
06:27Tee called me and she said, Mama, David has been in an accident.
06:32He was hit by a truck.
06:38My mom, she said that David may not live.
06:45She told me to come on.
06:46We're going to get in the car.
06:47And then we got there.
06:48My sister was right by his bedside.
06:54He was going to be in a wheelchair for the rest of his life.
06:57I wanted him to go for care from his mom or other family members.
07:05But Tee told me, David is going to go home with me.
07:08She said, Mama, I love him.
07:12I could tell instantly that she was determined to make that relationship work.
07:19But that was the kind of person Tee was.
07:21She just couldn't walk away from something that she started.
07:27Tee moves David into her Yazoo City home, and they start on the long road to recovery.
07:34I think after David's accident, it was a blow to his ego because he had to ask for help.
07:42And that's really what he did not like, asking for help.
07:51They were struggling.
07:53Sometimes he would be emotional.
07:55I definitely will say he took his frustrations out on her.
08:01I mean, she would literally just carry him throughout the house.
08:06She was going to be that loyal person for him because it's, in her mind, that was her soulmate.
08:13With Tee's unwavering care, David slowly regains his confidence.
08:18This is David when he wanted to try to regain strength and help him be able to walk again.
08:29He seemed to put aside his disability and began making it an ability.
08:36Once David's divorce is finalized, he and Tee set a wedding date for the winter of 2010.
08:47My heart dropped.
08:50I did not want her to stay in that relationship.
08:54Not because of the paralysis, but because he was who he was.
08:59He said that I'm going to love her, and I refused to ever leave.
09:06In the months before the wedding, Tee and David regularly visit Miss Archie.
09:13Tee had come to the house, she and David, with a little baby.
09:19And I'm like, Tee, whose baby is this?
09:23So she pointed at David.
09:27And I said, Tee, you all were together when this baby was conceived.
09:35We realized that he had had a daughter while they were dating.
09:41Tee was very hurt that he chose someone else over her.
09:46So I'm shocked.
09:50I'm thinking, what had she done to him that would make him do that to her?
09:58It was like he was saying, OK, it's my baby, so what?
10:04You know that he stepped out before, and he just won't stop.
10:10My heart was telling me to tell her, you know, get out of this.
10:14Take it and run.
10:15You don't have any obligations to him yet.
10:19I feel that she thought she was getting a husband.
10:27In actuality, he was not what he appeared to be.
10:31Tee marries David Swims on November 20th, 2010.
10:52She wanted him to just be a better person.
10:55She said, honestly, I don't feel like it's a problem.
10:57It's still our decision.
10:58I said, OK.
11:00After Tee and David were married, Tee seemed happy.
11:04I felt like, OK, everything is going along.
11:08Maybe I just need to stop feeling how I was feeling and accept what had happened.
11:14The couple still faced challenges.
11:18David was not working, but Tee took care of pretty much everything.
11:24The stress behind keeping the bills was definitely major for Tee, but she felt like, I have to
11:33go ahead and just be the person to stand up and do it.
11:38Tee's determination never wavers.
11:41Tee ended up going to university to get her master's.
11:45Everything was done online.
11:49Then she pushed David to go back to school.
11:54He started going to this IT tech building.
11:58He enjoyed, like, fixing computers or fixing phones and things like that.
12:05Tee pushed for him to be able to get that degree.
12:08That way he could actually apply in his skill set to any job.
12:13He graduated and did very well.
12:15I was so happy for them.
12:19But three years into their marriage, Tee hit Shalanda with another bombshell.
12:24He called me and she just said he was still being unfaithful.
12:30There was one incident where she said that there was someone at her house while she was at work.
12:37She was honestly very upset with that because he promised her that once they're married,
12:43it will never happen and she's at work and she's still trying to make sure he's taken care of.
12:48I think she had gotten to a point to where she's like, well, if he's going to choose to entertain, then I'm going to do the same thing.
12:57And she said they discussed to have just an open relationship.
13:02I said, are you sure, are you doing it to fix the situation of him not changing or are you doing this for you?
13:12And she said, honestly, I feel like both of them, but I'm going to make sure I stay to make sure I take care of them.
13:20Tee had dreams about going back to Ole Miss, University of Mississippi, to work on her Ph.D.
13:31So she told me, she said, Mama, I still want to move back to Oxford.
13:38In August 2014, Tee lands a position teaching third grade in Batesville, 25 miles from Oxford.
13:46And David finds a job in a phone and computer repair shop.
13:53Having two steady incomes helped a lot and it took a lot of the burden off of Tee.
13:59I could see a little bit of relief.
14:04The couple move into a home adapted for David's wheelchair on the outskirts of Oxford.
14:11Their lakeside street is known locally as the Cove.
14:14My husband and my family, we moved to the Cove in 2016.
14:21Some of the couples that had been living in the Cove for a while did block party.
14:27And that was the first time I got to meet Tee and David.
14:31They seemed like a very sweet couple.
14:34David was in the wheelchair.
14:35He seemed like it didn't slow him down.
14:37Even from a distance, you could tell Tee was just warm and there was just something so special and beautiful about her.
14:47It just seemed like it was going to be great to have a friend who's a neighbor instead of a neighbor who's a friend.
14:53As the months passed, more new families moved to the Cove.
15:02The ladies who were new in town, we started exchanging phone numbers and started a group text Tee actually named the group the Cove Queens.
15:13We started going out for each other's birthdays, kind of became a monthly thing after that.
15:21This was one of our Cove Queen nights.
15:26Tee learned a tick-tock dance and she was showing it all.
15:32She was so proud of herself for learning how to do that dance.
15:37Tee was the party.
15:39Tee was absolutely the party.
15:42If she was there, you already knew it was going to be a good night.
15:44Tee was the party.
16:14She was taking care of and he's being silly.
16:16My dams put it off.
16:18Being a comedian.
16:21Tee looks genuinely upset.
16:23My dams.
16:25I feel like he expected her to do certain things, but he didn't have the respect that I would feel a man should have for his wife.
16:36My dams put it off, yo.
16:38T confides in her sister that David is not respecting their personal agreement either.
16:47Having the open relationship did not work.
16:51He was just extremely jealous.
16:54T said he could do pretty much anything,
16:58but he wanted to make sure he kept the control over whatever she did.
17:03She had no privacy.
17:05He would call from her phone people that he would assume would be a male,
17:12even if it's a co-worker, saying things like,
17:14oh, that's my wife, I don't want you calling her.
17:17It was definitely a way that he could manipulate and maneuver to have his infidelities
17:22and just take, really.
17:27He's very good at not showing that dark side that she would see.
17:32The cruelty with his words.
17:35We were talking every day.
17:38She just, like, burst out to cry.
17:42And I didn't know what to do.
17:46I think she realized that she wanted better.
17:50And she didn't want to be her words.
17:53She didn't want to feel like she was in prison anymore.
17:55Six years into their marriage,
18:07David and T's relationship problems persist.
18:11Unaware, Miss Archie continues to visit her daughter on weekends.
18:15I would go and stay with them.
18:19So that particular Friday, I made it up there,
18:21and I noticed all of David's clothes was in the back bedroom.
18:26That's the room I always stayed in.
18:29She didn't let on that they were having marital problems,
18:32but I started paying attention a little bit more.
18:38It definitely became more apparent that they were having issues,
18:42whereas normally she was there for every Cove Queen's dinner.
18:46There was a few where she would miss.
18:48That was definitely something noticed because she was the party.
18:54I know there were things that she held back.
18:58She was just always part of the support system,
19:01but very rarely was she one that would come out and say,
19:07I have a problem with something that's going on in my life.
19:14Despite David's controlling behavior,
19:16he never stopped striving.
19:18And in April of 2021, she completes a lifetime goal.
19:23She did send us a group text to let us know
19:26that she was just waiting to hear if she got her PhD or not.
19:30We just started calling her Dr. T.
19:33Just to kind of boost her confidence because we knew she had it.
19:38I knew she had been undergoing a lot of stress with everything,
19:43and I said, hey, we're going out.
19:45We're going to relax and enjoy it.
19:49And so the next day, we went to go get our nails done,
19:55happy and laughing and kind of calm and relaxed.
19:58And then she got a text from David and she just immediately started tensing up.
20:07And from that point on, he was constantly texting her.
20:11Who are you with?
20:12What are you doing?
20:13Why are you there?
20:15That was the moment where I saw exactly how jealous and kind of possessive he could be.
20:22I would say it was almost like the higher she climbed,
20:27the actions got a lot more controlling.
20:33It was so much tension, you could cut it.
20:38T would come and spend more time at my house by herself,
20:42come on a Friday and go back home on a Sunday.
20:44She was always saying, everything fine, everything fine, but it wasn't fine.
20:52With T spending more time away,
20:55David often takes sole charge of his children,
20:58spending time at a local gun range.
21:02But his mood deteriorates.
21:04The fact that David's kids were there and T was not is very telling.
21:23T said that it had gotten to a point to where things were unbearable.
21:28And he would say things that you shouldn't just say to someone that you love.
21:32She had enough, and she was tired of being watched 24 hours, like a day.
21:40So she made the decision to get a divorce.
21:46She decided he would have one half of the house,
21:49and she would have the other portions.
21:53He returns to her mother's house on the weekend of June 4th, 2021.
21:59We sat in the kitchen and we talked.
22:02She said, Mama, it's over between David and I.
22:07She said, I'm tired of David's arrogance,
22:09and I'm tired of him telling me what I can and cannot do it.
22:14T finally admitted that maybe she should have listened to Mom.
22:18I was very relieved.
22:20T deserved so much more.
22:22And then that Sunday, before we left the house, David drove up.
22:29And the look in her eyes was fear.
22:33It was pure fear.
22:36I went to the door, walked on out to his truck.
22:39I said, hey, David, what's going on?
22:42Is T here?
22:43I said, yeah.
22:45He was telling her, T, I just want to talk to you.
22:47She said, David, I'm done.
22:49I am done with you, and I am done with this situation.
22:53David drove on off.
22:55The first thing that came to my mind was, maybe he ain't coming back.
22:59I'm like, wow, that was good to me.
23:04We went to fishing, and Shalonda came on up there.
23:08She and T was sitting out on the bank.
23:10I said, hey, y'all, look at me.
23:12And I snapped their picture.
23:14T felt relieved.
23:16She dedicated pretty much everything, and she put everything on hold.
23:21It was almost like I could just see the light coming back into her eyes.
23:25And she felt safe.
23:33At the end of the weekend, T returns to Oxford with plans to put the house up for sale.
23:39She got in the truck and left that Sunday.
23:43The realtor was supposed to be there that Thursday at 2 o'clock.
23:55That Tuesday night, she called me back.
23:59She said, hey, mama, what you doing?
24:00I said, nothing.
24:01And so I said, you got a glass?
24:03Let me go get a glass.
24:04So I went and got a glass, and I poured some wine in there.
24:08I said, where's David?
24:10And she said, he up in there somewhere.
24:12That was her exact word to me.
24:14He up in there somewhere.
24:15We were sitting there just talking.
24:21And then when we get ready to get off, we tapped the screen.
24:25She tapped hers, and I tapped mine.
24:28Good night.
24:28I said, I love you.
24:30She said, I love you, too.
24:31That Wednesday morning, she was supposed to call me.
24:39I didn't get that call.
24:41So that Wednesday afternoon, about 1.30, I called her phone.
24:47Went straight to voicemail.
24:48I said, mm, that's not like T.
24:51And then I didn't get a call back.
24:53Definitely not like her.
24:55So I waited and waited.
25:00Then I got a text message on my phone.
25:04Just said, hey, Mom, I'll talk to you later.
25:08All of the words was jammed up together, no punctuation.
25:13When T was sent a message, you better know it was going to be correct.
25:19It didn't make sense.
25:21I called her phone that Thursday before she left school.
25:24I got a message saying, hey, Mom, in a meeting, I'll call you later.
25:30No punctuation.
25:32Mom was lowercase.
25:34I just felt something was wrong.
25:37So that Friday morning, I left to go to Oxford.
25:41There's now a church department.
25:48Oh, yes.
25:50We need to make a report in regards to a very serious matter.
25:53One of our co-workers called and basically said that he was involved in a murder.
25:58One of our co-workers called and basically said that he was involved in a murder a few days ago.
26:15And it's like apparently everything's still like it was at the house.
26:17Like he hasn't come in to work.
26:18Dispatch had a male subject on the line saying that he had shot his wife.
26:30He was currently still inside the house.
26:32As I got closer to the neighborhood, dispatch did relay information that the suspect was possibly in a wheelchair.
26:45Most important thing when we arrive on a scene to a call of this nature is safety.
26:52Try to find out where the suspect's at and secure the residence as quickly and as safely as possible.
26:57I remember the garage door kind of opening.
27:04And I could see an ale coming outside in a wheelchair.
27:10My greatest worry or fear is that he was still armed with a weapon.
27:14Appearances can be deceiving.
27:15After we secured the suspect, we started making our way through the residence room by room.
27:31Sheriff's Department!
27:33We're constantly on high alert.
27:35There could be a threat that popped out behind a corner.
27:37Sheriff's Department!
27:38As I was making my way through the kitchen, I do remember seeing a couple firearms on the bar in the kitchen.
27:45At this point, we just bypassed them because this is Mississippi.
27:49Nothing unusual to see a gun laying on a counter.
27:52Hi, sir.
27:53What's that?
27:54No, I remember it was around the lights.
27:56Hi.
27:58Careful.
27:59Stop.
27:59Once I got to the bedroom, I could see a comforter laid on the floor.
28:04Here's the floor.
28:05Yeah, she's cold.
28:06It appeared that she had been there for a period of time.
28:11So at this point, I've asked the deputies to exit the residence with me because this has now become an active crime scene.
28:18What's your wife's name?
28:20Anteada.
28:21A-N-T.
28:23E-E-A-T-T-A.
28:26You really never know what you're going to get when it comes to a murder suspect.
28:31You know her date of birth?
28:32November 18th.
28:36I would say that the suspect's demeanor was very calm.
28:41He didn't really say much.
28:43He was very nonchalant.
28:47The suspect was placed in a patrol vehicle.
28:50I followed that vehicle back to my office at the Lafayette County Criminal Investigations Building.
28:58Still on the road, Miss Archie remains unaware of what has happened to her daughter.
29:03I called Dave's phone.
29:06He didn't answer.
29:07The number cannot be reached.
29:08So I called Dave's mom's phone.
29:11She didn't answer.
29:13I said, somebody need to call me.
29:15What is going on?
29:16She called my phone and said, Anteada is dead and hung up.
29:23And I just lost it.
29:28When I made it to the home, yellow tape all the way around the house.
29:33And that policeman walked up to the car and he said, I said, what's going on?
29:39He said, well, ma'am, there was a deceased female in the house.
29:45All I could think about was, I know this ain't true.
29:50I know this is not true.
29:52But it was true.
29:58It's like a gut wrenching.
30:00It's just a hurt that just won't stop.
30:11David Swims was placed in our interview room.
30:15The only thing I was aware of is the 911 call that he had made claiming that he had shot his wife.
30:21So I went into the interview trying to figure out exactly what happened.
30:27But once he was read as Miranda writes, he invoked his rights.
30:30So unfortunately, we had to end the interview at that point.
30:35Officers obtain a search warrant for the property.
30:38A knife was recovered on the scene towards the back of the bathroom where T was found.
30:48T had three entrance and exit wounds indicating that she had been shot three times.
30:52There were three bullet holes in the wall behind where she would have been.
30:58Those bullet holes weren't in a tight group.
31:01They actually moved the way that I perceived it from left to right.
31:05The bathroom where T was found clearly had been cleaned.
31:10It should have had more blood in it.
31:12Something that struck me very odd, written in the very center of the kitchen counter by the firearms.
31:20With a black sharpie were the words pain, lies, and deceit.
31:23We also noticed the picture frames on the bookshelf.
31:31They were turned face down.
31:33And then I started looking around the residence and I noticed that all the other photographs were turned over.
31:39I picked one up.
31:41I saw that it was David Swims and what appeared to be the deceased female.
31:46It was like the suspect couldn't look at the victim after what he had done.
31:53David Swims is charged with first-degree murder and a secondary count of felonious possession of a firearm.
32:12Bell was set at $100,000.
32:17David was able to hire a bail bondsman.
32:21Generally speaking, that bail bondsman only requires 10% of that payment to sign on to that bond.
32:32The next day, David posts $10,000 bail and is free to leave.
32:37$10,000 for my daughter's life.
32:43I go out in the yard and dig up $10,000.
32:46I still don't understand that.
32:49But he was released extremely quickly.
32:52I really had to pray so that I wouldn't do anything that would take me away from my kids.
32:57Those were the hardest days because everybody, it's like everybody was frozen, like wondering if, like, are we really going to get justice?
33:11They were clearly very emotional.
33:16However, I needed them to be strong.
33:19My goal is to get a conviction first and foremost.
33:23Second of all, send Mr. Swims to prison for as long as possible.
33:29David did come back to the cove.
33:31He moved right back into the house.
33:33That was a very, very hard time.
33:37There was all the anger I had towards him for what he did.
33:41There was a certain amount of fear.
33:46Somewhat, in a way, became a recluse.
33:49Because any time I stepped outside, that was the chance I was going to see him.
33:53He went back to work.
33:59He was an arrogant person.
34:01He was going on living his life.
34:05But he took my daughter's life.
34:11Somebody sent me the video of him out at a club two weeks after he murdered my daughter.
34:18It just turns my stomach.
34:23On Monday, September 19, 2023, the trial finally begins.
34:32When David testifies, it's the first time he gives his full version of events.
34:38David Swims' defense was that he came into the bedroom where T was,
34:45that they had a confrontation with one another,
34:49that T picked up a knife.
34:51David testified that T lunged at him sideways with the knife.
34:58He picked up the gun that T had in the bedroom,
35:03and that's where he shot her.
35:05He describes himself as firing blindly at somebody who was attacking him,
35:11covering his eyes when he shoots her.
35:13I argued in this particular case to the jury that it was not self-defense.
35:21It was clear, speaking to witnesses and looking at the forensic data that was recovered from both cell phones,
35:29that the relationship was dissolving.
35:32In a case like this, the motive often becomes very clear.
35:37The defendant did not want her to go and would do anything to prevent her from going.
35:41The argument that I made to the jury was that Mr. Swims entered that room where T was,
35:53that he brought the firearm with him with a deliberate design to kill T.
36:00T had three entrance and exit wounds, indicating that she had been shot three times.
36:08There were three bullet holes in the wall behind where she would have been.
36:13Those bullet holes weren't in a tight group,
36:17indicated not that T was coming at David,
36:20but that T was trying to get away from David,
36:23and that he knew exactly how to aim.
36:27If T was coming at him with the knife,
36:31the knife would have dropped somewhere in the center of the room where he shot her,
36:36as opposed to in the back of the bathroom where it was ultimately recovered.
36:41That indicated that the knife clearly appeared to have been placed.
36:46Miss Archie brought the information to law enforcement,
36:53indicating that the text messages that she received from T's cell phone clearly was not from her.
37:00That David Swims, being the only other person who had access to that cell phone,
37:04sent those text messages,
37:06indicated that he was trying to cover up for his crime.
37:09The length of time between when T was murdered
37:16and when David Swims called law enforcement,
37:21gave Mr. David Swims two days, roughly, to clean up,
37:25to come up with a story.
37:27He was very intelligent and physically fit from the waist up,
37:33but I believe he was unable to completely clean up the crime scene,
37:39and he had no choice but to say that he had shot her in self-defense.
37:48When we finally made it to court,
37:50I learned the gruesome details of how my daughter died.
37:58When I got up on stand to give my victim impact statement,
38:01I looked dead in his eyes.
38:05I said, David Swims, do you hear me?
38:10This will hurt me until the day God calls me home.
38:17And he just sat there.
38:20He never responded.
38:23He never acknowledged.
38:25He showed no remorse.
38:28The trial lasts three days.
38:30On Thursday, September 21st,
38:33the jury returned with their verdict.
38:36When the judge asked for the verdict to be read,
38:40the foreman stood up.
38:42He said, guilty.
38:49Despite the prosecution working for a first-degree murder conviction,
38:54the jury remained unconvinced the crime was premeditated.
38:57The jury accepted that his actions,
39:00instead of being deliberate in nature,
39:02were depraved in nature,
39:04which is second-degree murder.
39:06I'm satisfied with that verdict.
39:08The jury also find David guilty of felonious possession of a firearm.
39:14Mr. Swims received a sentence of 40 years to serve,
39:17two of those years suspended,
39:1938 years in the custody of the Mississippi Department of Corrections.
39:23I don't know if I'd say I'm satisfied with that,
39:27but I'm happy with that because that's just like a lifetime for him.
39:34When they heard the truth,
39:36they knew what a monster he was.
39:38And he was one of a person that could not be changed.
39:45It was his way or no way.
39:48He had a big hand in assisting him,
39:52helping him, and nursing him back from that accident.
39:56She sacrificed.
39:58She gave everything for his life.
40:01And then he took hers.
40:07I remember my sister as the peaceful dove,
40:11the helper, the nurturer, the leader.
40:17That was my one person that knew everything about me,
40:23and I knew everything about her.
40:25I like to remember my daughter as the vibrant young woman that she was.
40:32And she would always tell me,
40:35Mama, just do it.
40:37If it's something you want to do, just do it.
40:41Smile like you're happy, happy.
40:45I know it.
40:47My daughter was loved.
40:51She was very much loved.
40:54But I'll never be the same.
41:08Vicki's love for Ryan was pretty intense.
41:11Are you getting a hang of us?
41:13But her fear was awesome.
41:15There's no other word to describe him than as a monster.
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