The Graham Norton Show - Season 33 Episode 01
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00:12APPLAUSE
00:14Oh!
00:16Oh!
00:18Thank you so much!
00:20Thank you! Thank you very much!
00:22Oh!
00:24Hello!
00:26Hello, everybody!
00:28Good evening!
00:30You are so welcome to the show!
00:32Yes, Autumn is here, and like a misty September morning, I'm back.
00:36Cool, grey, and just a little bit damp.
00:39Anyway, we've got a great line-up for our first show of the season.
00:42Look over there, sing it for us later.
00:44It's the fabulous Ray!
00:48Love Ray!
00:50She'll be performing her new single, Where Is My Husband?
00:53But more to the point, where are my guests?
00:55Let's get them on!
00:56First off, we loved him as the Prince of England in Grantchester,
01:00and we loved to hate him as Tommy Lee Royce in Happy Valley.
01:03Now he brings us the epic succession drama, House of Guinness.
01:06It's our good friend, James Norton!
01:09CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
01:12There he is!
01:14Hello, Tommy!
01:15Good to see you!
01:16Thank you!
01:17There he is!
01:18James Norton!
01:19This Oscar-winning actor and writer swaggered into our screens in Days of Confused,
01:24won our hearts in How to Lose a Guy in 10 Days, and was out of this world in Interstellar.
01:29His latest book, Poems and Prayers, is already a Sunday Times bestseller,
01:33while he returns to our screens in a heroic true story, The Lost Bus.
01:38It is a warm welcome back to Matthew McConaughey!
01:43CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
01:45Here he comes!
01:47It sounds really good to see you!
01:49There you go!
01:50Yes!
01:51That's Matthew McConaughey!
01:52Yes!
01:53And we've got two stars from the new sports drama The Smashing Machine.
01:59She made her mark in The Devil Wears Prada, thrilled us in A Quiet Place,
02:04and was Oscar-nominated for a performance in the global hit Oppenheimer.
02:08It's Emily Blunt, everybody!
02:10CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
02:12Oh, so shiny!
02:13So shimmery!
02:14So business!
02:16Ooh!
02:17So nice to see you!
02:19And as The Rock, he conquered the wrestling world before turning action movie star with roles
02:28in his like Jumanji, Moana, and the Fast and Furious franchise.
02:32Now earning rave reviews for his performance as champion wrestler Mark Kerr in The Smashing Machine,
02:38it's the mighty Dwayne Johnson!
02:41CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
02:44Hello, Dwayne, Dwayne, Dwayne.
02:46And great, lovely to see you!
02:48Good to see you, Dwayne, Dwayne, Dwayne, Dwayne.
02:54Hey, welcome along. What a couch. Sit down, sit down, sit down.
02:57Lovely, welcome along, thank you very much for being here, lovely to see you all.
03:01Thanks for having us. Cheers!
03:03Cheers!
03:04First show back, cheers! Cheers! Cheers! Cheers, cheers!
03:07OK. Yeah, if you're wondering, tequila.
03:12Now, some of you know each other, James, I've got to ask, are you alright because you injured yourself?
03:17Are you alright because you don't know anyone?
03:19Well...
03:20Well, I feel like I know you. I know you. Yeah. And you've met the other backstage.
03:27I have. We had a lovely time. We've discussed tequila and other things. Yeah. Just tequila, surely.
03:32I did get injured. Am I all right? No, I am fine.
03:35But this is the thing that's on now. King and Conqueror, which is on BBC One on Sunday nights.
03:39Yes. I fell off a horse. That's cool. Look at that.
03:42Yeah, I fell off a horse and I broke my collarbone.
03:44Now, in Iceland.
03:45Now, I was thinking, ooh, that must be terrible to fall off a horse quite a distance.
03:49And then I saw a picture of you with the horse. And you are taller then.
03:52Yes.
03:54So, Iceland. Surely a pony.
03:57It is a pony. Okay.
03:59Yeah, yeah. So, Iceland have a protective order on their horses.
04:01You cannot import a horse because they have this kind of gene pool and it doesn't, it can't be polluted.
04:05And so, we, having committed to shoot the whole thing in Iceland.
04:08And I was a producer on the show as well.
04:09So, we were tasked with finding the biggest Icelandic ponies we could find.
04:13And they were, that was the biggest we could find.
04:15Even though it was, it was that small, I still broke my collarbone from falling from that great height.
04:20So, yeah.
04:21When did it happen?
04:22It happened at the very beginning of all the stunt sequences.
04:25That's fun.
04:25Yeah.
04:26Stunts though, if you have one of those scenes where you might get injured, it's a good thing to schedule those at the end of the show.
04:32Yeah.
04:33End of the show.
04:33Yeah.
04:33End of the show.
04:34Yeah.
04:35It was rehearsal.
04:35Yeah.
04:36Yeah.
04:36Yeah.
04:37Yeah.
04:37Well, producers and producers will do that.
04:40They'll put the big stunt away.
04:41Wait, but he's producing.
04:41It was my son.
04:42He is a producer.
04:44I know.
04:44I learned a lot.
04:45I learned a lot.
04:46I learned a lot.
04:48But also, looking at that, I'm thinking, Dwayne, never do an historical epic in Iceland because
04:53that pony would not survive.
04:54I don't know if that's the way.
04:56Does a regular horse make a noise when you get on it?
05:00Does it just go, oh?
05:03Me?
05:03Yeah.
05:04Why?
05:04Because there's a lot of muscle mass there.
05:06I mean, a horse would be going, oh, Jesus, look at this.
05:10Oh, my God.
05:11They're groans.
05:11They're groans.
05:12Yeah.
05:12Many things groan when I get on it.
05:14Yes, yes, yes.
05:20Okay, Graham.
05:21I'm writing that down.
05:22I'm writing that down.
05:26All right, let's get on with our first film tonight.
05:30Dwayne and Emily are together in The Smashing Machine.
05:33It's in cinemas from the 3rd of October, and here's just a little taste of what to expect.
05:39Yeah, Don, can you take this picture for me?
05:40Yeah.
05:41What are you thinking at the beginning of the fight?
05:43It's simple.
05:45Am I going to hurt him before he hurts me?
05:47Yes, there was a lie.
05:52I will show you how.
05:54This Grand Prix to crown the greatest fighter in the world.
06:03He has come back from the break.
06:05Let's see if he can pull out a victory over Mark Coleman.
06:10Have you spoken to either about fighting such a good friend for a life-changing amount of money?
06:14I just need you to let me in.
06:18I took the road.
06:19Always about you.
06:20Only about fighting you.
06:22Everything is about you.
06:22Yeah.
06:26Let's fucking go.
06:34Big strong man.
06:36I love you.
06:37I love you.
06:41So good.
06:42Thank you, man.
06:45Thank you, brother.
06:48It is phenomenal.
06:49It's a true story.
06:50Mark Kerr, he was sort of the first star to come out of the MMA UFC world.
06:55He was, yeah.
06:56For a lot of you who don't know him, and a lot of people don't know him.
06:58Mark Kerr was the first, he was one of the pioneers of, there he is right there, of MMA.
07:03And he was, at one time, he was the greatest fighter on the planet.
07:08Heavyweight fighter.
07:09And at that time, there were no rules, no regulations.
07:12And MMA was different.
07:14And there was no infrastructure around it.
07:15There was no financial planning.
07:18There was just fighters.
07:20And Mark fought his way to the top.
07:23And he struggled.
07:25And he struggled like a lot of fighters do.
07:27Unfortunately, though, he struggled under pressure.
07:30And the pressure, in many ways, got to him.
07:32There was addiction involved.
07:33And he wound up overdosing twice.
07:35And he was lucky to be alive.
07:36But he's here today.
07:37And not here in the audience, but he is alive.
07:40Ladies and gentlemen, Mark Kerr.
07:42But he is with us today.
07:44And he had this unbelievable life.
07:46And he had this volcanic relationship with his girlfriend, who eventually became his wife.
07:51And they have a beautiful son named Bryce.
07:53So it was really the role of a lifetime.
07:56And so, Emily, tell us about Dawn.
07:58Yeah.
07:59I mean, she's an extraordinary person.
08:01You know, and I found her, when I spoke to her, sort of simultaneously heartbreaking and fierce.
08:07And I think it is a very complex relationship to be in when you're with a very dedicated athlete whose life is on the line constantly through his own addiction, through actually being in the ring.
08:22And they did have this rather hazardous relationship.
08:26But I think the movie is less about, you know, it's set to the backdrop of this 90s machismo.
08:33But it's so about vulnerability and the brokenness and, like, how you never really know what's going on in someone's life, you know.
08:39And the image of invincibility is not really the truth, you know.
08:42And we've got to talk about the Venice Film Festival, because you took actual Mark Kerr with you.
08:47Yeah.
08:47So, I mean, obviously emotional to watch it, but to watch it with him, to watch it with him, that was the first time he'd seen it, right?
08:55It was the first time he had seen it with an audience.
08:57So, we get to the Venice Film Festival, which we're there for competition, and we're sitting there and watching it.
09:01I sit next to Mark.
09:03Mark's a big guy.
09:04And I could feel him, and he's shaking.
09:07He's shaking the entire movie, especially the fight scenes with him and his girlfriend, who eventually became his wife, Dawn.
09:13He's shaking.
09:14Every once in a while, I reach over and grab his knee.
09:17And towards the end of the movie, where we have the big scene with Emily and I...
09:21Don't ruin it.
09:22I won't ruin it.
09:23No.
09:23Don't hope a bitch.
09:24So, anyway, you'll never get to the head of it.
09:31And then he is really shaking and crying, and then I look over, and Benny Safdie's holding his hand.
09:39And, you know, in Venice Film Festival, it's very ceremonial, right, as we know.
09:44And it means a lot.
09:45Films mean a lot to people in Venice and at the Venice Film Festival.
09:49And before the credits came up, the audience erupts.
09:54And they give us a 15 and a half minute standing ovation.
09:59And Mark Kerr is sobbing, which makes us all cry.
10:04Yeah.
10:04And Benny as well.
10:05And it was just beautiful.
10:06We've got a little bit of footage of the ovation.
10:09And I say, it goes, I mean, it's incredible.
10:12Look at me.
10:12By the way, yes.
10:15Let's wait until this is over so I can embarrass you.
10:17I know.
10:18No, look at your face.
10:20Yes.
10:21And Mark Kerr is beside me.
10:22That's Mark.
10:22Okay, by himself.
10:23So, there I am.
10:25Right?
10:25I'm very emotional.
10:27House lights come on before they're expected.
10:30I'm crying and I'm trying to wipe my tears away to try and still stay cool.
10:34And this one is like, can you believe that we did that thing?
10:38Whatever the fucking joke was that she said.
10:40You can see in the clip that he's crying and I went, do you remember on Jungle Cruise when you said you never cried?
10:48I'm in a moment.
10:49I'm in a moment.
10:52It's like the British thing, right?
10:54I think it's the British thing.
10:55It's like, it's a long time for people to be clapping and I start to get embarrassed.
10:59Yeah.
11:00So I started making jokes because I was like, oh God, this is so much.
11:04To remain kind of humble and grateful for 50 minutes is quite hard.
11:08Yeah, it's hard.
11:09Thank you so much.
11:11And here's the thing, you know, just watching the trailer there, you know, that idea of Dwayne Johnson disappearing into any role, you kind of think, oh, how can you transform?
11:20But you do.
11:21What, what?
11:22And it's not just the physical thing because it's obviously this hair, but other things went on.
11:27It was about 22 prosthetics.
11:29We had Kazu Heroes, our Oscar winning prosthetic artist, and he helped me transform.
11:34There was also a vocal transformation too.
11:36But the idea, I think, of transforming for me was something that, you know, I didn't know that I was, I didn't know that that was for me.
11:46And I wanted to do that because a lot of times in the movies that I've made in the past, the bigger movies, they're big and they're fun.
11:52And I've liked them from Jumanji to Moana.
11:56And I'll go back to those.
11:57But there was something about this opportunity where there was a little, there was a voice behind my rib cage that was just telling me, right?
12:04So, like, like, and I'd share this with Emily for years, like, it's just, it's gnawing at my gut to do more and challenge myself and grow and do something where I'm not chasing box office, but I'm doing it for me.
12:19Yeah.
12:19And it wound up being the most greatest, most gratifying thing.
12:24And I've said this before and I mean it.
12:27Smash Machine changed my life.
12:29Well, you so pulled it off.
12:30Thank you very much.
12:31It really is phenomenal.
12:32And Matthew, I'm interested because you had a kind of similar career pivot to what Wayne's doing now, where you had this incredibly successful career with rom-coms.
12:42And you went, no, I'm going to search out different sorts of parts, more meaningful parts.
12:46How hard was it to turn your back on that incredibly successful career?
12:50So, similar to what Dwayne said, I had that 4 a.m. in my solitude on my own truth that hit me.
12:57It lands like a butterfly and strikes like a lightning bolt at the same time.
13:00That truth that you go, okay, tomorrow when the sun comes up and I'm back in the masses and all the world's coming at me and all those offers, I need to remember this truth.
13:07Now, I've been trying to get dramas and was even offering huge pay cuts.
13:11And they're like, no, stay in your lane, McConaughey.
13:13You're the rom-com guy.
13:14You got that down.
13:16Mind you, I enjoyed him, but I was wanting to do something different.
13:18Because I couldn't do what I wanted to do.
13:19I said, I've got to stop doing what I'm doing.
13:20So, I said, no more rom-coms.
13:23Called the agent.
13:25I said, let the town know.
13:26It's not going to happen.
13:26I went to Texas.
13:27Camilla's pregnant.
13:28I'm on the ranch.
13:29Quiet down there.
13:30Camilla says to me, look, you don't know how long it's going to be dry, how long you're going to not go with work.
13:34This could go on, but this is non-negotiable.
13:37We're not going back.
13:38I was like, not going back.
13:38Now, a year goes by, nothing, nothing.
13:43I call my agent.
13:44He goes, Matthew, I haven't even heard your name in six months.
13:46I'm going, okay.
13:47I may have just wrote myself a one-way ticket out of Hollywood.
13:50I start to think about other vocations.
13:52School teacher, wildlife guide.
13:55Maybe I'll go back to law school.
13:56All right?
13:5718 months go by.
13:59I really think I've done it.
14:01I'm out.
14:02I get this romantic action comedy.
14:05It comes with an $8 million offer.
14:07I read it.
14:07I pass.
14:08I say, no, thank you.
14:09It comes back with a $10 million offer.
14:11I said, no, thank you.
14:12It comes back with a $12 million offer.
14:13I said, no, thank you.
14:14It comes back with a $14.5 million offer.
14:17I said, let me read that thing.
14:21Yay.
14:22Same words as the $8 million offer, but it was better.
14:26I can see myself.
14:27This could work, right?
14:29But I ultimately said no.
14:31That must be so hard to say no.
14:32It was, but saying no to it, I think sent a little invisible message to Hollywood.
14:39Oh, McConaughey's not bluffing.
14:41We were talking about not flinching.
14:42Yes.
14:43Oh, he's playing offense.
14:44He's not just doing nothing.
14:46He's playing on.
14:47He's on to something.
14:49And 20 months, two months after I turned that down, the offers came in that I was looking
14:55for.
14:56And they came in in droves.
14:57It went Killer Joe, Mudd, The True Detective, Dallas Buyers, Magic Mike.
15:01Oh, that movie.
15:01They came in, everything I was looking for.
15:03And they would not have come in if I wouldn't have unbranded for that 20 months.
15:09Yes.
15:09All right?
15:09Now, Duany, you didn't have to unbrand.
15:11You had enough steam going, I can make whatever choice I want, and I'm going to make this happen
15:15over here.
15:16It was a time for me where I had to unbrand, and it took 20 months.
15:19But then I was doing, and all of a sudden, my work was challenging the vitality I like.
15:23I was like, there we go.
15:25So cool.
15:26I know.
15:26Absolutely.
15:26Absolutely.
15:26And it's one thing that they, every actor that wants to be successful, but then you
15:34don't want to be typecast.
15:35And James, you know, you were so good as Tommy Lee Royce in Happy Valley.
15:42You, at that kind of psychotic faggot.
15:44Oh, yeah.
15:48Like, were you just offered lots of psycho villains after that, or, or?
15:54Yeah.
15:56Yeah.
15:56I seem to get offered roles where they present as nice and kind of civil, and then underneath
16:01they have a heart of stone.
16:03And I don't know what that says about me, but, yeah, I mean, I haven't, I haven't had to
16:08rebrand, which is lovely.
16:09I've, you know, been lucky.
16:10I've been able to kind of twist and turn, and I think that's the way you keep learning
16:13and keep it fresh.
16:14That's what every actor wants.
16:16And, yeah, I mean, the villains are also really interesting.
16:19Like, the one I'm playing right now is a beast.
16:21Yes.
16:22So, you know, I get to, I get to play, and, yeah.
16:25But I have to say, I've cited you as someone who has done it.
16:28And, you know, now you as well, Dwayne, like, someone who has done it so elegantly, you
16:32managed to go against the grain.
16:33Because the producers, they want their job to be done easily.
16:35You know, you don't want your actor to have to go on these massive transformative journeys
16:38because it costs money, and you have to get dialect coaches in and everything else.
16:42You want the actor to walk in as the character.
16:43And, actually, what we want to do is go on those journeys, which you guys have just described
16:47so beautifully.
16:47So, yeah, it's a tough kind of struggle.
16:51Talking of returning to our role, we've seen a lot of paparazzi pictures of Miss Emily Blunt
16:56recently, because you, are you still filming The Devil Wears Prada 2?
17:01Yes.
17:01Yeah.
17:05It must be lovely to be making something that people are so happy about.
17:08They are so excited about it.
17:10It is incredibly sweet.
17:12I mean, we're trying to keep as much of it under wraps as we can, but it's not just the
17:16paparazzi, it's the fans outside.
17:18I've never experienced this, where it's just thousands of people waiting outside the sets.
17:22And I think when we made the first one, like, we thought it was funny.
17:26We were like, it's really funny.
17:27And then it comes out, and I was a kid, you know, when it came out.
17:31I mean, it's 20 years ago.
17:32And I remember my agent calling me going, you know, this is the opening weekend.
17:37I was like, is that good?
17:38Like, I didn't know what success was.
17:41And so it had this meteoric life, and it's amazing to come back to it.
17:47And because to make the second one, obviously, they needed the four of you, you, Stanley,
17:50Anne and Merrill.
17:51So did the four of you have a lot of say in what the story was going to be?
17:55We did.
17:56I mean, I think they were very collaborative on it.
17:58And, you know, they wanted everyone to be happy.
18:01They wanted us in cahoots with them.
18:03So it was really, really cool.
18:05Well, we look forward to that.
18:07But before then, do I urge you, go see Emily and Dwayne give extraordinary performances in The Smashing Machine in cinemas from October the 3rd.
18:15Very good.
18:19OK.
18:21Next up, Matthew McConaghy.
18:23He brings us the latest offering from director Paul Greengrass.
18:27It's called The Lost Bus, and it's out now in selected cinemas, then on Apple TV+, from the 3rd of October.
18:34Before we talk about it, here's some of the trail.
18:36At approximately 6.30 a.m. this morning, a fire entered the town of Paradise.
18:45Where do you need to get to?
18:48My son's up there with his grandma.
18:56It's too late.
18:59I'm too late as a father.
19:06It's not too late.
19:16Wowza.
19:20That was so cool.
19:24And again, this is another extraordinary true story.
19:29Yeah.
19:29These awful, awful California wildfires in 2018, and this kind of reluctant hero.
19:34Tell us about Adam McKay.
19:37Kevin McKay.
19:38Kevin McKay.
19:38Sorry.
19:38In our story, he's come home because his father died, and he's there to take care of his widowed mother and reconcile our relationship with his son from an earlier divorce in his life.
19:49He's got a part-time job as a school bus driver.
19:52On this particular day, took the kids' school, dropped them off, was out and about, and fires were coming across the canyon.
19:59It happened all the time.
20:01No one even got alarmed.
20:02The first responders head up there and put them out.
20:04But on this day, the winds came and the fires jumped the canyon, so the first responders were stuck.
20:10And while they were stuck, they called it a mandatory evacuation out of the town of Paradise.
20:16When that happens, Kevin McKay has just made the decision, I'm going to go back and get my mom and my son, who cannot drive, going to save them, evacuate them.
20:26And not two minutes later, it comes through dispatch.
20:30I've got 23 kids stranded on the east side of town.
20:33Does anyone on that side of town have an empty bus?
20:35Well, guess who's got an empty bus?
20:38Do you pick that up and say yes?
20:41Or do you go get your mom and your son?
20:45He picked it up.
20:46And he said, I got him.
20:48He picks him up.
20:49There's a teacher with a Mary Lugwig who's played by America Ferreira.
20:53And this is the story about the next six, seven, eight hours of what happens.
20:57Wow.
20:58And you mentioned the personal side of the idea of being attacked.
21:00Yeah.
21:00And, of course, that's incredibly present in this film because it is a family affair.
21:06Yes, it is.
21:07Check this out.
21:08Ha, ha, ha!
21:09I go home and pitch the script to my family, as I always do.
21:14Here's what it's about, you know.
21:16And if it's too R-rated, you've got to kind of do it in a parable form.
21:19The kids were old enough and told them that this one was about straight.
21:23I get to the part about my son.
21:26And my son, Levi, who's 15 at the time, goes, is that part cast yet?
21:29I said, no.
21:29He goes, you think I can read for it?
21:31Oh, my God.
21:32And I just kind of look at him.
21:34Had he ever read for anything before?
21:36No.
21:37So this surprises me, but I kind of just give him a shoulder and like, yeah, right.
21:40He comes back next day.
21:42The next day, he badgers me four times.
21:44I said, okay, all right.
21:45First off, sit down.
21:46We're going to talk about what this acting gig is.
21:48I said, this ain't modeling.
21:50This ain't no attitude.
21:52All right?
21:53This is a freaking rodeo.
21:54You got to go with soul and no bullshit in your bone.
21:58So he goes, well, I already got a scene.
22:00Worked out.
22:00I want to shoot.
22:00So I pulled out my camera shot.
22:02And I was like, first take.
22:02I was like, okay.
22:04Kids got present.
22:05He was able to behave honestly in front of the camera.
22:08I was like, that's for starters.
22:09You need that.
22:10Did two takes.
22:11I sent it to the casting director with a note saying, I think this is good enough for a callback.
22:16She writes back and says, I think it's good enough to send to the director, Paul Greengrass.
22:19I said, great.
22:22And it dawned on me.
22:22Wait a minute.
22:23Do me a favor.
22:24Can you pull his last name?
22:26If he gets it, is he going to have an inkling that the last name helped him?
22:31Oh, I don't want that happening.
22:32So she pulled the last name, goes in his sleeve.
22:34Paul sees it.
22:35Director.
22:36Looks like this.
22:36This is the kid.
22:37She said, well, you know, it's actually Matthew's son in real life.
22:40He goes, even better.
22:41Oh, that's so cool.
22:43And so it's lovely.
22:44Your son's in it.
22:44Your mom's in it.
22:45My mom's in it.
22:46My mom's in it.
22:49Tell them who she plays.
22:50Tell them who she plays.
22:51Oh, she plays my mother.
22:55There she is.
22:56Kate McCauley, 93 years young.
22:58Oh, my gosh, she's gorgeous.
23:01No, but look at your stomach.
23:05So what we're going through, Paul and I would get together every week and kind of just go
23:10over the last week.
23:11How are we doing?
23:12Are we missing anything?
23:12Is there anything we want to do?
23:13Anything special?
23:14And the news was always good.
23:15We were always happy with everything that was going.
23:17But he said, about four weeks in, he goes, I got one problem.
23:19He goes, I think I miscast the mother and I either misdirected it or we got to rewrite
23:22this scene.
23:23Do you know, do you have any witty idea who could play your mother?
23:27I said, let me think about it.
23:28Next day, he goes, what about your mom?
23:30Wow.
23:31They're making this family affair, Paul.
23:33I said, hang on a second.
23:33He goes, let's just cast her.
23:35I said, hang on.
23:35Hang on.
23:36Before we just cast her, let me get her in front of you.
23:38And I said, I said, mom, can you send me a minute video on your phone of why you love
23:43being a mom?
23:44She sends me an eight minute video.
23:47I show that to Paul.
23:48He's like, yes.
23:50That's her.
23:51What's that conversation like when you told your mom?
23:54She was already into, like, let me check with my agent, which she didn't have.
24:02She was already like, well, let me think about it.
24:05Yeah.
24:07This is all sounding very familiar to James Norton because your dad, has he been in every
24:14single thing you've done?
24:15Dad?
24:16Has he?
24:16My dad has been in nearly everything I've ever done yet.
24:19I'm terrified of him watching this because I know I'm going to get a text saying, why can't
24:22I play your dad?
24:22I want to, I want to, you know, I've got my notes ready.
24:25He mostly does kind of supporting background work.
24:27Yeah.
24:28Yeah.
24:28He does a day as an essay on everything I do.
24:30So here he is in the House of Guinness.
24:32This is your current project.
24:34Oh, God.
24:34There he is.
24:36But we have found footage of him from War and Peace.
24:39This is, it's over, is it 10 years ago?
24:41More than 10.
24:42At least he flew himself out to Lithuania to shoot this.
24:44Yeah, he flies across the world.
24:45I did, I did wonder how the hell he ended up in Lithuania to be in this.
24:49So he flew himself.
24:50He loves it.
24:51Yeah, yeah.
24:52Okay.
24:52He gets a free haircut.
24:54He kind of struts around the set like a peacock.
24:56Gets, you know, to flirt.
24:58You're not in this scene, but keep an eye out.
25:02I'll show you James out here.
25:04I mean, blink and you might miss him.
25:05But here we go.
25:06Warm Peace.
25:07It's all going very well.
25:09Lovely.
25:10Very dramatic.
25:10And look, who's that in the moustache?
25:14There you go.
25:16Did he keep the moustache?
25:18Yes.
25:18He loved it.
25:19Did he keep the moustache?
25:20He didn't keep the moustache, no.
25:22It's a new one in House of Guinness.
25:23It's a new one in House of Guinness, yeah.
25:25In House of Guinness, he had to throw a bottle at me.
25:26And he's not the most coordinated.
25:28And it was a stunt sequence.
25:29And he had to throw the bottle multiple times.
25:31But yeah, no, he loves it.
25:32So when he comes out, is it specifically for one scene?
25:35Or does he just lurk around for many background scenes?
25:37No, no, no.
25:38We make sure that he's only on for one scene.
25:39I mean, he would.
25:40He would, if he had the choice, get an agent.
25:42I mean, I'm terrified.
25:44But has he never asked for lines?
25:46Has he never asked for...
25:46He never had a line in one thing.
25:47Oh, it was terrible.
25:48He had a...
25:49I'm sorry, Dad.
25:49Dad?
25:50He had a line in Lady Chatterley's Lover.
25:53And I remember him...
25:54It was the director said,
25:56Hugh, let's give you a line.
25:58And he improvised something about the state of the coal mine.
26:01And he looks at me and goes,
26:02What the fuck?
26:03Like, how do I...
26:03What does he do?
26:04And then it was...
26:05I don't know about you, but you obviously...
26:07Your son and your mum are clearly much more talented than my dad.
26:09Because he was terrible.
26:11And I was standing there, and I'm trying to stay in character.
26:13And all I have is this man going,
26:14The coal is not coming up the...
26:16Terrible.
26:20Really distracting when you're a terrible actor.
26:23And, Dwayne, your mum, she didn't act, but she has now done some acting.
26:30She has.
26:30We actually...
26:31So I followed in Matthew's path, and I put her in...
26:35I cast her in live-action Moana.
26:37So she's in that, yeah.
26:39Does she have lines?
26:40No, thank God.
26:41OK.
26:43You went the Norton route.
26:44No, yes.
26:45That's it.
26:46You've talked about her before, but I love the idea of your mother.
26:49She enjoys your fame very much.
26:51She loves it.
26:52She does.
26:53My mum's had a tough life, and she...
26:55So now she's living like...
26:56Yeah, cute.
26:56There she is.
26:57She's just living her best life, and she does.
27:00She's my biggest fan.
27:01And she has this crazy room that's called the Smackdown room.
27:06And in the Smackdown...
27:06Donny.
27:07It's just all me.
27:10She has everything that I...
27:12I mean, every little thing, anything you can think of,
27:15she just shoves it in there.
27:17And then there's...
27:17Did your mum have something like that?
27:18My mum has the same room.
27:19She does?
27:19It's not of you, but it's of all my stuff.
27:22That would be weird.
27:26That would be amazing.
27:27So your mum is your biggest fan?
27:28Yes, but she also...
27:30She is my biggest fan, but she also is very clear to take credit
27:33for all of...
27:35Wow.
27:35Yes.
27:36Every role I've ever played.
27:38Here's what she comes up after.
27:39She goes, Matt, you did so good.
27:43I can tell where you got it from.
27:44We're fine now.
27:50My ship's stable enough where I'm like,
27:51Mum, say whatever you want.
27:52Whatever you want.
27:53Now that she's got a great agent, she's good.
27:56But also, she published a book.
27:58Yes.
27:58Can you remember what the name of the book was?
28:00Oh, yes.
28:01Because she probably has already put a sticker of the title of the book
28:04on my truck.
28:06It's called,
28:06I Amaze Myself.
28:10I feel like every book,
28:12every book should be called,
28:13I Amaze Myself.
28:14Oh, she's a legend.
28:16Chapter 26.
28:17Guess what the title is?
28:19Some people deserve to be pissed on.
28:27Wow.
28:29What is Christmas like in your life?
28:32It's wild.
28:33Is it a novel?
28:34No, it's short stories.
28:36Some people,
28:37it's probably helped out some people.
28:39She's very much a,
28:41she gets by on positive thinking and denial.
28:46And it works.
28:47And she's 93 and not shallow and kicking ass.
28:49So, I'm going to love her.
28:50Talking of books,
28:51I must say,
28:52after the success of your memoir,
28:54Green Lights,
28:55you now have a new book,
28:56Poems and Prayers.
28:57Yeah.
28:57Number one,
28:58The New York Times.
28:58We already know it's going to be
29:00the bestseller list in Sunday night.
29:04From what I read,
29:07so a lot of the material in here,
29:09you've been working on off and on for years.
29:12Yes.
29:13So this is something you've always done.
29:15Yeah,
29:15I've been writing poetry since 18.
29:16Yeah.
29:17Yeah.
29:18And I think you're going to do one for us?
29:21Maybe?
29:21Yeah,
29:21I'd love to read one.
29:22Have you got the book with you?
29:23Actually,
29:23your mom is here.
29:24She's here in her two-piece bikini.
29:28Ready to read?
29:29Ready to pee on somebody.
29:31Well,
29:31you've got the book there.
29:31Oh,
29:31you've got the book there.
29:32That's why I wrote it
29:34and why I put it out now.
29:36Seems to me belief is in short supply.
29:40Look around,
29:41turn on the news,
29:42you look around,
29:43there's not much to believe in
29:44or reasons to believe.
29:47And that's not going to work
29:49because if doubt wins,
29:50we're all going to lose.
29:52All right?
29:52So this is me looking for belief
29:54because I found my own self getting cynical.
29:56I found my own self objectifying people
29:58and kind of thinking,
29:59I guess that's just the way it is.
30:01First,
30:01that scared me.
30:02Secondly,
30:02thankfully,
30:03it pissed me off.
30:04And I said,
30:04no,
30:04no,
30:04no,
30:04no,
30:04no.
30:05I promise I'll never become a cynic.
30:07That's an early death if you do that.
30:09So I wrote this to dive into my own belief
30:11and I've also found a lot of people
30:13along the way going,
30:14they feel kind of the same way.
30:15They're looking for belief.
30:16So poems and prayers,
30:17instead of looking to reality
30:18and the evidence for belief,
30:19let's look at our dreams
30:21and our aspirations
30:22and see if we can bring those back down to earth.
30:24And that's why I wrote this book.
30:26There's a bunch in there.
30:27Why don't I read one that's kind of funny?
30:28Okay.
30:29All right?
30:29And not that long.
30:30I'll tell you about that.
30:31All right.
30:31It's called More Time.
30:33I think it was about 2 a.m.
30:35The band played the last tune
30:37and I said,
30:37Amen.
30:38Went to pay my tab over at the bar
30:40when the main event
30:41started tuning their guitar.
30:43So I ordered myself another bottle of wine.
30:46God,
30:46I love it when I got more time.
30:48Thought it was the year 2010.
30:51Not a worrying sight
30:52in the fast lane again.
30:54Signed all my checks
30:55one year tardy
30:56because it was 09
30:57and I hadn't left the party.
30:59So happy my balance
31:01wasn't in the red.
31:02God,
31:02I love it when I'm early instead.
31:04Met a woman I liked
31:06and she became my friend.
31:08We turned into lovers
31:09and thought we'd make it
31:10until the end.
31:11But as soon as we lined up
31:12hand in hand in the queue,
31:14my eyes started turning
31:15a lighter shade of blue.
31:18Well,
31:18sometimes love just loses its shine
31:20and sometimes leaving early
31:22just gives you more time.
31:25Come on!
31:26Very good!
31:29Very good, guys.
31:35Meanwhile,
31:36in another part of the forest,
31:37James Norton
31:38brings us a new epic historical drama,
31:41House of Guinness,
31:42on Netflix now.
31:44and here's a taste
31:45delicious.
31:47The death of your father
31:48has served to
31:49poke a stick
31:50in a hornet's nest.
31:54A gift
31:55from Mr. Guinness.
31:56And you're gonna start a war
31:58from a representative
31:59of the Dublin poor.
32:02Children Sir Benjamin
32:03leaves behind
32:04are weak
32:04and divided.
32:06Now is the time
32:07to use that weakness.
32:09Freedom!
32:09You think there'll be trouble today?
32:14The man's name is Guinness.
32:19Of course,
32:20there'll be fucking trouble.
32:37There's no ponies in that.
32:38No ponies.
32:39No ponies.
32:40Big horses.
32:42And here's the thing.
32:42Obviously,
32:43the Guinness family
32:44who are kind of fighting
32:45for control of the brewery,
32:47they're real.
32:48Who do you play
32:49and are you
32:50kind of an actual historical figure?
32:52So, I'm not...
32:53I'm made up.
32:54The story is
32:55kind of the father,
32:56Benjamin Guinness,
32:57it's all true.
32:57He died in the early 1860s
32:59and he left his power vacuum
33:01into the kind of
33:02big dynasty show.
33:03The four children
33:04then take over the brewery.
33:05I play there
33:06fixer,
33:08caretaker,
33:09kind of the...
33:09He runs the show,
33:10he's the boss.
33:11He's called Sean Rafferty
33:12and he's a badass.
33:14Yeah, he really is a badass.
33:15It's really fun.
33:16So cool.
33:16Yeah.
33:16And it's by the same guy
33:18who wrote Peaky Blinders, right?
33:20It's Stephen Knight, yeah.
33:21Oh, I love Stephen Knight.
33:22Yeah, yeah.
33:23And he's firing on all cylinders.
33:25He's in his element.
33:26You can tell he had
33:26a lot of fun making it.
33:28Yeah, it's a romp, you know?
33:30It's an amazing period of history.
33:32It's when this brand, Guinness,
33:34became the biggest beer brand.
33:35I didn't realise
33:36how famous Guinness was
33:38in the 1860s.
33:39Yeah.
33:39It was global already.
33:40Well, it was just...
33:41This story is the moment
33:43it exploded into North America
33:44and on the kind of
33:46coattails of the Industrial Revolution.
33:48But it's smoky and sexy
33:50and it's irreverent.
33:52It's...
33:53We have many names.
33:54The crown with beer.
33:55Subsession, it's been called.
33:59They skip subsession.
34:00Subsession.
34:00I mean, there's many people
34:01who have coined it.
34:01But, yeah, it's a lot of fun.
34:02It's definitely a fun, fun romp.
34:04And when I watch something like this
34:05and, you know, you're in it
34:06and you're doing
34:07a really good Dublin accent...
34:09..I got to think...
34:09When you said yes to it,
34:11did you just kind of think,
34:11I'm sure I can do that accent
34:13or did you know
34:14you could do a Dublin accent?
34:15No, I mean, I was terrified.
34:17You know, the Irish are a very...
34:19Well, you know,
34:19they're a very proud people
34:21at the right show.
34:22They'll tell you.
34:22They will tell me.
34:23They do.
34:24They often do.
34:25Have you done press in Ireland yet?
34:26I have.
34:27You got it where you have.
34:28It's terrifying, honestly.
34:29I sat on this couch
34:30with Jamie Dornan
34:31and he told us
34:31he got crucified
34:32by a journalist
34:33for his Irish accent.
34:34Yes.
34:34And he's Irish.
34:35I was in that movie with him.
34:36You were in that movie?
34:37And we got destroyed.
34:39Yeah, but he's Irish.
34:40I mean...
34:40I know, but he's from Belfast
34:43and they told him
34:44his Irish accent was shit.
34:46So it was like...
34:46I don't know what...
34:48I don't know.
34:48It was...
34:49Anyway, but no,
34:49listen, the accent was terrifying
34:51and I worked really hard at it
34:53because, you know,
34:53we all know actors
34:55who didn't get it right
34:56and they do get held to account.
34:57And did you have any kind of like...
34:59Were you given shortcuts into it?
35:01Yes, I did.
35:02I had an amazing dialect coach
35:03called Paul Mousselides
35:04who basically...
35:06Yeah, he gave me...
35:08I don't know if you've ever done this
35:09for an accent,
35:10but he gave me kind of
35:11the vowels broken down
35:12into eight sounds
35:13and then these little poems,
35:15actually, funny enough,
35:15I could follow...
35:16I could follow with one of the poems,
35:18but they were kind of ridiculous
35:20and I would listen to them
35:21and look kind of crazy
35:22walking around.
35:23Can you remember any of them?
35:24I remember, um...
35:26Uh, like, the sound...
35:27I mean, I'm going to butcher it
35:28and the Irish people
35:29are going to come...
35:30No, they're not.
35:30They are.
35:31You're not on set.
35:32No, I'm not on set.
35:33It was a year and a half ago
35:34in my defence.
35:34So, like, the sound, like,
35:35um, wine, light, uh, fine Ireland
35:38was...
35:39It was something like, um,
35:40uh, the prime height
35:42for umpires in Ireland
35:43is five foot nine.
35:44I'm smiling now
35:45because of the fine white wine
35:47I'm drinking.
35:47It makes me feel like
35:48I'm a lion flying over a toy.
35:51Yeah, yeah, yeah.
35:52You know what I mean?
35:53You did that earlier?
35:54Yeah, yeah, yeah.
35:54You still got it.
35:55You still got it.
35:57That's one of...
35:57That's cool.
35:58Yeah, sure.
35:59You meant that, no?
36:00It was an accent.
36:00You, like, it's very scientific.
36:02You break the accent down
36:03into these times...
36:04Have you ever done
36:04an accent, Matthew?
36:05Yes.
36:06Yeah.
36:06Tim Monick is who I worked with
36:08who's done the same things.
36:10Yeah, you give the little
36:11limericks and you just
36:12find the, uh,
36:14actually the rhyme
36:15and the vowel sound
36:16along the way
36:17and you start...
36:18It sort of seeps in.
36:19And, uh, James Norton,
36:21this is a, you know,
36:22it's a big action, uh,
36:24series,
36:25a big action role for you
36:26and, you know,
36:27we've had fighting,
36:28we've had fires.
36:30You bring us explosions.
36:32Now, have you ever had to do
36:34walking away
36:35from an explosion before?
36:36I'm so pleased
36:37we can get to talk about this.
36:38Yeah, so we...
36:39No.
36:40You have.
36:41I know you have
36:41because there is a song.
36:43So we were shooting this scene
36:44in Liverpool
36:45and Sean Rafferty,
36:47my role was made very easy
36:48because all I had to do
36:49was sort of strut
36:50and smoke cigarettes
36:51and look kind of cool.
36:53And so one of these scenes
36:54I was walking away
36:55from an explosion
36:55and my business partner
36:56and my dear, dear best friend,
36:58she texts me
36:58in the middle of this scene.
37:00She said,
37:00have you seen
37:01Cool Guys Don't Look Back
37:02Explosions,
37:03the Lonely Island guys.
37:04Have you seen it?
37:05Yes.
37:05The Lonely Sandberg,
37:06which you were in.
37:07It's a song
37:07and he's cut together.
37:08It's so good.
37:09He's cut together
37:10all the actors
37:11and actresses
37:11over the time
37:12in Hollywood
37:13who have walked away
37:14from an explosion
37:14and not turned back.
37:15You can't turn back.
37:16You can't turn back.
37:17But you are my inspiration.
37:18Oh, cool.
37:19This is what's actually
37:21in the series.
37:21This is Sean Rafferty
37:23walking away
37:24from an explosion.
37:25I'm not afraid
37:25of a bit of progress.
37:29And wait for it.
37:29Oh, there you go.
37:30But then I do a look back.
37:31Do I not?
37:32No, you don't.
37:33No!
37:35It's so cool.
37:35So the rules,
37:36Bernie, are you don't look back.
37:38That's a rule.
37:38You don't look back.
37:39Yeah.
37:39And I suppose
37:40the other thing would be
37:40you wouldn't look
37:41sort of pleased with yourself
37:42for walking away
37:43from an explosion.
37:44Oh, no.
37:44No, don't look back.
37:45Don't look pleased.
37:46Don't react.
37:47Don't look away.
37:48It's just stone-cold
37:48straight faces.
37:49Stone-cold straight faces
37:50all the way through.
37:50Yeah, like, this is
37:51what I do kind of thing.
37:52But by the way,
37:53you're a producer.
37:53Make it happen.
37:54Yeah.
37:54I wasn't a producer
37:55on this, but I didn't know
37:56what you were about.
37:56Yeah.
37:56So this is, this is,
37:59this is a slightly longer
38:00take.
38:00This is from behind
38:01the scenes of Sean Rafferty
38:04walking away
38:04from the explosion.
38:05Oh.
38:06So here he goes.
38:07So there's the explosion.
38:09Not looking back.
38:10Oh, he looked back.
38:11He did.
38:11At least he hasn't
38:12looked pleased
38:13with himself at all.
38:15Oh!
38:18All right, it's time for music.
38:27The seven-time Brit Award-winning
38:29Grammy-nominated artist
38:30first set the world to light
38:31with her debut album,
38:33My 21st Century Blues.
38:34Here performing
38:35her newly released single,
38:37Where Is My Husband?
38:38It's Rage!
38:44I look like a baby.
38:46I look like a ring.
38:47I look like a diamond ring
38:48on my wedding finger.
38:49I look like a big and shiny diamond.
38:51I could wave around
38:52and talk and talk about it.
38:53And when the days
38:54you ever give me,
38:55God, that I could ever doubt it.
38:57Till death, I do, I do, I.
38:59This man is testing me.
39:02Oh, oh, oh, oh, help me.
39:04Baby, where the hell is my love?
39:09Would've taken him so long
39:10to find me.
39:13Oh, oh, baby.
39:15Where the hell is my love?
39:17Getting down with my love.
39:18Ooh, yeah, yeah.
39:20Now I'm just seeing my baby.
39:21You see another patient.
39:23Why is this beautiful man
39:24ready for me again?
39:25Oh, why are you already
39:26testing my patience?
39:28I am just taking time
39:29with other women that ain't me.
39:30Well, I've been reviewing applications.
39:31I'm just taking time
39:33with other women that ain't me.
39:34Well, I've got my limbs on it.
39:35When I tell him I'm too foul, not
39:35he can't be waiting
39:36and it's a patient
39:37and raise to the love
39:38to give him to my loving arms.
39:39In this fight, I can't say
39:40It's just me.
39:41It's easy.
39:42It's easy.
39:45How am I all good and fall?
39:48Is he far away?
39:50Is he okay?
39:52This man is testing me.
39:54Ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, help me.
39:55I need you to tell me, baby.
39:58Where the hell is my love?
40:00Where the hell is my love?
40:01It's been so long to find me, oh baby
40:06Where is my lover getting down with another?
40:11Tell me if you see my baby
40:14He should hide
40:15I'm doing the acrobatics
40:16I'm sipping my dress at 2am
40:18And I'm tired of living like this
40:19He must be out of getting ready
40:20Trying to fix up his tire
40:21Uh-huh, uh-huh, uh-huh
40:22Hello, this way your wife is free
40:24Will I get your heart going?
40:25Am I turning up too foul much?
40:26I'm gonna love ya?
40:27No wanna love ya, pray
40:29Do the locker hurry hurry, you alone baby
40:31I ain't gonna bust ya
40:33P.C.D. P.D. P.D. P.D. D. Oh, my heart yarns for ya
40:40Is he far away, Is he okay
40:44This man is testing me
40:46Uh-huh, uh-huh, uh-huh, uh-huh
40:47Help me, help me, help me, Lord
40:48I need you to tell me, baby
40:50Where is my lover
40:51Would've taken us from alone
40:54To find me, oh baby
40:58Where the hurt is my lover, get it down with a number
41:02Tell him if you see him, baby
41:04Tell him I'm, tell him I'm, tell him I'm, tell him I'm, tell him I'm kind
41:11Tell him I got brown eyes and a grown fitter
41:14If he doesn't find me now, I'm gonna die, lose a pity
41:16I'm on my mind, I'm on my mind
41:19I'm on my mind, I'm on my mind
41:21I'm like a baby, I'm like a ring
41:23I'm like a diamond ring, I'ma wear the finger
41:25I'm like a black and shiny diamond
41:26I'm like a baby, I'm gonna talk and talk about it
41:28One day, he's gonna give me all that I can have without it
41:31Do I do, I do, I
41:33This man is testing me
41:35Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, baby
41:39Where the hell is my husband
41:41What's taking him so long to find me
41:45No, no, no, baby
41:47Where the hell is my lover, get it down with another
41:51Tell him if my grandma said it, tell him if my grandma said it
41:55Your husband is coming
41:57Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh
42:09Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh
42:11Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh
42:13Oh, where is my husband?
42:16Wow!
42:19Wow, wow, wow!
42:21Wow!
42:23Putting on a show!
42:25Give it up for Ray!
42:27Her orchestra
42:29and her backing vocalist!
42:31Come on over, Ray, dude!
42:33How amazing was that?
42:35Startening!
42:37Hello, Ray!
42:39So good to see you!
42:41Come and meet everyone!
42:43Hello!
42:45Ray!
42:47Ray right there!
42:49Oh my God!
42:51I love you, Emily!
42:53I love you!
42:55Hey!
42:57Hello, guys!
42:59First of all, thank you for that amazing performance!
43:01It was a very good!
43:03It's a standing-up dress!
43:05It is!
43:07No, you put on a show! Thank you so much!
43:09Thank you! Just terrific!
43:11I know! And also, I want to say
43:13just congratulations on everything that's happened to you
43:15since the last time you were on the show!
43:17I mean, broke records at the Brits,
43:19performed at the Grammys, the Oscars,
43:21it's just, it's phenomenal!
43:23I'm so happy for you!
43:25So happy for you!
43:27That's a question on that!
43:29With all your success,
43:31did you lean into being more you?
43:33Definitely, yeah!
43:35Yeah? Yeah, like that right there
43:37is me!
43:39Thank you!
43:41And that is the new single that's out now,
43:43Where Is My Husband?
43:45And that voice we heard at the end,
43:47is it true that that's your granny?
43:49It's my grandma, yes!
43:51I don't know if you picked it up,
43:53this was right at the end of the track.
43:55Come on, grandma!
43:57That's my best friend!
43:59She's my best friend!
44:01I call that lady every night,
44:03we pray together, we talk about life together,
44:05that's my rock!
44:07No pun intended!
44:09You know, I sang your song today on the radio!
44:11You did? Yeah!
44:13What do you mean? Greg James, I sang it!
44:15Like, it was a challenge to me,
44:17like the rap portion,
44:18because you know, there's like a,
44:19like a rhythm to it.
44:21Were you saying I would like a ring?
44:22Yes, it was crazy, yes!
44:23No, really?
44:24No, I butchered it,
44:25but it was terrible!
44:27It was terrible!
44:28I'll tell her it was terrible!
44:30I did!
44:31So, congratulations on everything!
44:33Oh my gosh!
44:34I would love to get that footage, please!
44:36It's one of those life achievements!
44:38That is the new single,
44:40and it's going to be on the new album!
44:42Yes!
44:43Now, when is the new album coming out?
44:45So, you can pre-order it,
44:47um, you can pre-order it,
44:48but it's just not done at all,
44:49like, at all.
44:50I'm an independent artist, right,
44:54you've got to get ahead of these things!
44:56OK!
44:57We put it out there,
44:58I've kind of given myself a rough deadline,
44:59I would like to say the first third of next year,
45:02definitely the first half of next year!
45:04OK, so I...
45:07OK, this is not what I thought!
45:09I thought it was kind of like,
45:10done, you were just doing a little polishing,
45:12Oh no, no!
45:14Yeah, maybe add some...
45:15add some horns to that!
45:16No!
45:17Not at all!
45:18OK!
45:19So, are you writing it right now?
45:20I am, yeah!
45:21Oh!
45:22So, it's a beautiful process,
45:23but it does take time, and I...
45:25Yeah!
45:26Yeah!
45:27Yeah, I had it in,
45:29where is my husband,
45:30eight days before it came out,
45:31do you know what I mean?
45:32So, I'm combing away at it,
45:33chipping away,
45:34no, this could be better,
45:35we should add this,
45:36yeah!
45:37Yeah!
45:38When you're writing, do you sleep,
45:39or are you just always churning with it?
45:41No, you need rest,
45:42being tired in the studio is the worst!
45:44Yeah!
45:45Yeah, you need to be on,
45:46you need to be present,
45:47and I think it's kind of like,
45:48imagining your guys' crafts,
45:50you know, when your heart starts beating,
45:52and you just feel like,
45:53this adrenaline goes,
45:54and you're like,
45:55I'm where I need to be right now,
45:56I need to chase this feeling,
45:57it's that feeling, you know?
45:58Yeah!
45:59Being tired in the studio,
46:00your songs are gonna suck!
46:01But now,
46:02in terms of finishing the album,
46:04tell me this,
46:05does the album at least have a name?
46:07Um,
46:08not really,
46:09kind of,
46:10kind of,
46:11kind of.
46:12What is it kind of called?
46:14Um,
46:16I'm not sure to answer that question.
46:19Kind of is the title, right?
46:21Kind of is the title right now.
46:22Oh, nice,
46:23nice,
46:24kind of.
46:25So, if Matthew McConaughey says it,
46:26it's cool.
46:27Yeah, I need one of them,
46:28you know they do quotes of like,
46:29you know,
46:30kind of.
46:33Yeah.
46:34But look,
46:35the one thing we do know,
46:36is,
46:37you are going on tour.
46:38Yes.
46:39Yes, you are.
46:40When does that kick off?
46:41Next year,
46:42and,
46:43um,
46:44yeah,
46:45we just announced a fifth O2 Arena,
46:46like,
46:47can you believe it?
46:48That is phenomenal.
46:49Oh!
46:50It is phenomenal.
46:51And,
46:52it's interesting,
46:53because we were,
46:54we've been talking about family a lot tonight,
46:56and your tour is gonna be a family affair.
46:58It is.
46:59two beautiful sisters.
47:00Who are here?
47:01Is that them right there?
47:02That's them over there.
47:03Get over here now.
47:04Amma,
47:05absolutely,
47:06come on up.
47:07Come on sisters!
47:08Hello!
47:09Amma,
47:10absolutely,
47:11hello.
47:12How much to do.
47:13Well done.
47:14You did well.
47:15Well done.
47:16You did well.
47:17Well done.
47:18So,
47:19this is Amman,
47:20absolutely,
47:21and you are going on tour.
47:22Now,
47:23absolutely,
47:24you've been on tour,
47:25with Ray before?
47:26Yes,
47:27I have.
47:28It's a good dream.
47:29Is it weird everyone just staring at you?
47:31Yes,
47:32it is.
47:33You sound like,
47:34you sound like you're not thrilled at the idea of going up back on tour.
47:37You're like,
47:38yes,
47:39I have.
47:40It's a good dream.
47:41She is.
47:42Abby's the shy one of us three,
47:43a bit more.
47:44Yeah.
47:45Mother named you absolutely.
47:46Oh,
47:47that would be amazing.
47:48No.
47:49My name is Abby.
47:50Abby Lynn.
47:51Where did absolutely come from?
47:52I was,
47:53that's your name?
47:54Tequila.
47:55Tequila?
47:56No,
47:57no,
47:58no,
47:59no,
48:00no,
48:01no,
48:02no,
48:03no,
48:04but that is what you're called,
48:05you're called absolutely,
48:06right?
48:07Yeah,
48:08yeah,
48:09that's your stage name.
48:10I didn't just make it up, Matthew.
48:11I didn't just look at the woman and go,
48:13looks like an absolutely to me.
48:15Abby's too short,
48:17it feels rude.
48:18This is such a real moment.
48:20I'm just sat here with my sister on one side.
48:21I know,
48:22it's so weird.
48:23And then you guys on the other side.
48:24It's really abnormal.
48:26Yeah.
48:27You'll never believe who's in the lounge.
48:30Well,
48:31you're not looking.
48:32Well,
48:33listen,
48:34good luck with the tour.
48:35I know you're adding locks of extra dates,
48:36so it's,
48:37you're going to be together for quite a long time.
48:39Yeah.
48:40So,
48:41enjoy it.
48:42Yeah.
48:43And Ray,
48:44great performance for the ages.
48:46It was just fantastic.
48:48Ray,
48:49everybody.
48:50Oh my God.
48:51That is it for tonight.
48:53Sadly,
48:54no time for red chairs,
48:55I'm afraid.
48:56So please thank the rest of my guests,
48:57James Norton.
48:58Matthew McConaughey.
48:59Emily Blunt.
49:00And Mr. Dwayne Johnson.
49:01Join me next week with another great lineup.
49:14Lewis Capaldi,
49:15Donald Gleeson,
49:16Jodie Turner-Smith,
49:17Greta Lee,
49:18Oscar winner,
49:19Cillian Murphy,
49:20and the one and only Taylor Swift.
49:21I'll see you then.
49:22Good night already.
49:23We're live.
49:28And back on a space oddity with David Bowie,
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49:33to the man who fell to earth.
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